The Long View: Good Frodo and Evil Gollum

The Long View
Good Frodo and Evil Gollum
By Manuel L. Quezon III
Philippine Daily Inquirer
First Posted 23:28:00 11/22/2009

IN book two of “The Fellowship of the Ring,” Celeborn, elven co-ruler of Lothl0rien, speaks directly to the readers as much as to the Fellowship when he counsels, “Do not despise the lore that has come down from distant years; for oft it may chance that old wives keep in memory word of things that once were needful for the wise to know.”

Chances are you’ve read or watched “The Lord of the Rings,” Tolkien’s saga in three volumes of how a reluctant hero is tasked with destroying a Ring of Power as a squabbling alliance of Hobbits, humans, dwarves and elves backs him up and fights titanic battles against the evil Sauron and his gruesome dark hordes. The epic is about Good and Evil, and how individuals can be one or the other, or even both, depending on the circumstances.

Some months ago Jim Paredes quipped that Noynoy Aquino is like the reluctant Hobbit hero Frodo Baggins, and that all those flocking to his aid and assistance are like the motley cast of characters that comprised the Fellowship of the Ring.

Tolkien the narrator observes of hobbits, as much as of men, of people in books as much as of people in real life, that “There is a seed of courage hidden (often deeply, it is true) in the heart of the fattest and most timid hobbit, waiting for some final and desperate danger to make it grow.”

In Book Two, the message is amplified in an exchange between Gimli the dwarf and the elf Elrond, representatives of races that do not like each other but now allied in a common quest, yet the two still disagree on how to approach the physical and even moral perils of their quest.

“Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens,” the action-oriented Gimli starts off. Elrond the jaded elf replies, “Maybe, but let him not vow to walk in the dark, who has not seen the nightfall.” Gimli counters, “Yet sworn word may strengthen quaking heart,” only for Elrond to pragmatically respond by saying, “Or break it.” This is the eternal conflict between purists and realists.

At a time when there’s a general desire to see righteousness reign in our politics, there is too great a danger of self-righteousness intruding its discordant voice, insisting, on one hand, on impossible standards for individuals while ignoring the need for a common cause to confront the greater danger. This is the danger of pride substituting for true conscientiousness.

Quite early on in Book One of “The Fellowship of the Ring,” in the second chapter, the reluctant Frodo and the wizard Gandalf discuss Gollum, the deranged previous holder of the Ring of Power from whom Frodo’s uncle, Bilbo, had taken the ring; throughout the saga Gollum represents the problem of Frodo the Good, requiring the at times sincere, and most other times, deceitful, assistance of the generally Evil Gollum.

From the very start, Frodo thinks it’s a bad thing to have to engage the help of bad people and tells Gandalf, “He deserves death.” Gandalf’s answer is instructive, laying down a theme that will persist to the end of the saga, as he repeatedly counsels the members of the Fellowship of the Ring against the perils of confusing the righteousness of their cause with the pride of self-righteousness.

“Deserves it! I daresay he does,” Gandalf agrees; but adds, “Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. I have not much hope that Gollum can be cured before he dies, but there is a chance of it. And he is bound up with the fate of the Ring. My heart tells me that he has some part to play yet, for good or ill, before the end; and when that comes, the pity of Bilbo may rule the fate of many – yours not least.”

Tolkien repeatedly returns to this theme of redemption – whether partial or complete – for the bad, or the merely confused, a possibility that should temper the self-righteousness of characters themselves fully capable of departing – temporarily but at times, disastrously – from the path of righteousness. Pride, he perpetually points out, feeds the divisions self-righteousness creates and which harms Good and promotes Evil.

As the elf Haldir of Lorien, responding to the bickering and simmering tensions between allies, points out in another chapter of Book Two: “In nothing is the power of the Dark Lord more clearly shown than in the estrangement that divides all those who still oppose him.”

Gandalf himself, in Book Three, returns to the basic lesson Haldir propounded: “We are all friends here. Or should be; for the laughter of Mordor will be our only reward, if we quarrel.” Something he returns to again, much later on in Book Five, where once again self-righteousness has provoked discord and to which his reply is, “Let us remember that a traitor may betray himself and do good that he does not intend. It can be so, sometimes.”

Hope is what enabled Good to conquer Evil – for at the heart of hope is the humility to give all a chance to help fight Evil, without sneering at motives. A humility based on belief in redemption for those who once served Evil. Frodo could not do it alone, he needed help; help came from all quarters and much of it tainted by mixed motives as shown by the thoroughly bad Gollum.

Every character wrestled with the dilemma of fighting for Good yet being confronted by Evil, internal and external. Hope subdued pride, humility fostered unity and trust in Good allowed individuals as well as kingdoms to conquer the Ultimate Evil, Sauron.

As the fair elven Galadriel had told the impatient dwarf Gimli in Book Two, “I do not foretell, for all foretelling is now vain: on the one hand lies darkness, and on the other only hope. But if hope should not fail, then I say to you, Gimli son of Gloin, that your hands shall flow with gold, and yet over you gold shall have no dominion.”

Manuel L. Quezon III.

447 thoughts on “The Long View: Good Frodo and Evil Gollum

  1. Between a bobo and FAULMOUTHS, dun na ako sa bobo. Yung bobo, pwedeng makatsamba ng tama, yung FOULMOUTH ( BADMOUTH is an understatement referring to NIck and Karl ) bawat buka ng bibig puro bad words and pagmumura, walang chance na maging tama.

  2. In choosing whom I will vote for, I will consider ALL the ATTRIBUTES of a candidate and not just specific characteristics. Of course, there are attributes that should weigh more than the rest.

    I will Vote for Noynoy Aquino not because he is SUPER or EXTRAORDINARY, but because he has the most qualities I am looking for president.

  3. It is just like between TANGA and PUTANGINA, dun na ako sa TANGA for two reasons

    i) Being tanga is not a fault but putangina is.

    ii) Ayaw ko sananay ni Nick at Karl, dun na ako sa tanga.


  4. To Nick and Karl;

    Pag lahat nang tao BOBO at tanga, ZERO crime rate tayo. Wala ring mandaraya at walang magnanakaw.

    Whereas kung ang lahat ng tao ay katulad ninyong mga mapagmura. this whole town will look like Maguindanao. ( in Santo Tomas, Batangas, ang tawag namin sa mapagmura ay kinakantot ang sarileng bibig )

    I think it is really a good idea to be tanga.

  5. I reviewed all my posts. Wala naman akong sinasabing bad words tulad ng Put*ng i*a, Ga*o, et al.

    Nakita ko lang tanga at bobo. At sa lahat na nagsabing bad words yun, mga tanga at bobo nga.


    Pag lahat nang tao BOBO at tanga, ZERO crime rate tayo. Wala ring mandaraya at walang magnanakaw.

    Bobo at tanga ka nga kung iniicip mo good idea. Try having people like ERAP which is bobo at tanga. Zero crime rate pa rin ba?


    nkakatawa ung mga reasons nyo. Really hard to argu based on accomplishments noh?

    Each candidate speaks for themselves.

    The performance of Noynoy in the congress and senate, his college life, his chain smoking habits, his being single at the age of 49, his being homeless at the age of 49, his acceptance of the trapos in his party, his stand again the hacienda luista, his politicking during ondoy, and they way he answers in forums and debates says a lot of things about this person.

    **I see no reason voting this person. Do you?

    I saw someone saying noynoy has most qualities he is looking for president, then something is very wrong with you.

  6. I really don’t understand this BLIND DEVOTION people have for

    Hindi nyo ba talaga na kitkita na ginagamit lng cya ng LP??? They are kind enough to make him standard bearer but they don’t think he is GOOD enough to be the leader of LP. So kahit diyan palang hindi pa ba obvious?

    And please tingnan nyu mabuti kung sinu mga members ng LP. They are still the same trapos in the goverment right now, ng palit lng ng groupo.

    We all know na kahit sinu uupo sa palace WILL BE SURROUNDED BY MANIPULATORS, ASS-KISSERS AND TRAPOS. So balak nyu ba ilagay isang tao na kilalang MEEK, TIMID and API-API sa Lion’s Den na yun. Sigurado kakainin lng cya ng mga politico dun.

    Please people, pili-in nyu ang leader na hindi api-api.

    And by the way si MAR and palaban and hindi si Noynoy. As you can see sa lahat ng issues ngayon, sa NOY-MAR tandem, si MAR lahat sumasagot at ng cri-criticize ng mga issues. Sya palagi ang sumasagot para kay Noynoy. What if hindi si MAR and naging VP? patay tayo dyan… kawawa si noynoy and kawawa ang pinoy.. na uto naman ulit.

  7. @Karleiner;

    Please do not alter my inferences;

    Ang sabi ko between mga BOBO at mga MAPAG-MURANG katulad ninyo, dun na ako sa mga bobo. Mapag-mura comes from lack of proper upbringing. Lack of upbringing produces BAD and EVIL People. Bad and Evil people produces criminalities.

    Eh di dun na ako sa mga bobo at least their INNOCENCE produces NO CRIME. ZERO CRIME RATE.

    ERAP is no BOBO. Naisahan nga nya kayong mga intellect-ULUL di ba? ERAP is mapagmurang katulad ninyo, lassengo pa at sugarol.Tandaan ninyo yang salitang naimbento ko para sa inyo ha? Intellect-ULUL, yan kayo. Mga ULUL na nagkukunwang matalino.

  8. You can call us anything you want, MAS MARAMI pa rin kami sa inyo by a big margin. Kasi, nakikita ng tao na ang babaho ng bunganga ninyo. Puro kayo mura. Mura. Bad words. Simple lang naman ang choices kung paniniwalaan mo magkabilang panig.

    It is just like between TANGA and PUTANGINA, dun na ako sa TANGA for two reasons

    i) Being tanga is not a fault but putangina is.

    ii) Ayaw ko sa NANAY ( na putangina ) ni Nick at Karl, dun na ako sa tanga.


  9. The last person na tinawag nilang tanga, naging presidente at minahal ng taong bayan na matinding matindi—-si Cory.

    Sige lang, mga tsong. In the end, sa amin ang PRESIDENCY, sa inyo ang EMERGENCY ( maatake kasi kayo sa sobrang ngitngit ).

  10. @ Maganda, ano nakatawa? Na tinawag mo sarile mong maganda????
    HAR-HAR-HAR-HAR !!! That is very funny!!

    How can you call yourself maganda eh si Nick at Karl ka rin. Har-har-har!!!!!

  11. @Nick/ Karliener / Newfoundglory,

    If you are one and the same, it’s alright. you really have to resort to such contrive tactics in order to make it appear that your tribe is increasing when in fact, your extinction is just around the corner and it may come way ahead of Christmas.

    I am voting for Noynoy because I don’t want Erap or Villar to become president. Gibo is OK but if I vote for him, its minus one vote for Noynoy and it would mean an enhanced chance for Erap or Villar to become President. Gibo has absolutely NO CHANCE at all to become president. Gordon or Bro. Eddie may also be good choices but likewise, they don’t stand a chance of winning and votes for them would just prevent a lesser evil to become president and will sway the equilibrum in favor of the bigger evils.

    Well, you can fault me for believing so much on the surveys of SWS and Pulse Asia, but no one can dispute the fact that survey results of these two agencies have not faltered nor have they ever failed in correctly determining the sentiments of the nation.

    My inclination would have been different had Gibo or Gordon or Bro. Eddie fared better in the polls. My only objective in this election is to prevent an Erap or Villar presidency, regardless of who among the other candidate wins.

    Since Noynoy has the biggest chance of preventing an Erap or Villar presidency, he is my man as for now.

  12. @JessKFC, are you Jess Montemayor, president of KFC who I heard is currently having labor problems because of the illegal dismissal of thousands of employees on the basis of polygraph exam results? Para daw lokohin ang mga manggagawa, you created daw dummy cooperatives and corporations para maligtasan nyo mga problema nyo sa labor at taxes? Noynoy-noynoy ka pa diyan eh gago ka naman pala.

  13. Wow, dumami ang mga jologs ah. Tapos patuloy ang mga speculation niyo na same person kami ng iba dyang ayaw sa bobo (Noynoy).

    Alam niyo, ang mga jologs ang dahilan kung bakit palpak ang Pinas.

    Dahil sa kabobohan at katangahan ninyo, kayo ang mga pumipili ng ERAP at NOYNOY na parehong walang kwenta.

    Worse, magja-justify kayo at sasabihin ninyo:

    “Mas mabuti pa ang bobo at tanga ang iboto kaysa sa matalino kasi ang Pilipinas, maraming naging Presidenteng matalino, pero anong nangyari? So ngayon, boboto kami ng bobo at tiyak na magkakaroon ng pagbabago.”

    Yan ang kabobohan ng mga jologs. Yan ang jologs na bumoto kay Erap at boboto kay Noynoy.

    Jologs na tanga at bobo… Walang pinagkaiba.

    Noynoy is the rich man’s Erap. 😉

  14. Please stop your hallucinations about Noynoy Aquino being the savior of our Motherland. Sa slogan pa lang n’ya ipokrito na: “Tanggalin ang Tiwali, Itama ang Mali” — paano n’ya gagawin ito kung s’ya mismo ay kaibigan ng isa ring tiwali (itago natin s’ya sa pangalang ERAP?!)? At hindi lang basta kaibigan, nagpa-endorso s’ya dito para sa 2007 Senatorial Elections.

    Sa pagkakaintindi ko, ‘pag kumuha ka ng mag-eendorso sa’yo, ibig lang sabihin ay bilib ka sa taong ‘yun at paniwala kang may mabuting idudulot s’ya sa’yo. So, malinaw lang na bilib si Noynoy kay Erap. Anong silbi ng slogan n’ya kung ganun? Double standard. Galit kay PGMA pero gusto si Erap. Makababoy ika nga. Handang kumain ng isinuka na. Walang sariling pag-iisip. Basta makabubuti sa political career, kahit ano gagawin. Utu-uto pa kahit alam naman n’ya for sure na mas may kakayanan si Mar Roxas kesa sa kanya. ‘Yan ba ang may prinsipyo?! Aanhin mo ang madasalin at makatao kung wala namang sariling paninindigan? Sooner or later, ang mga nagluluklok sa kanya ngayon ay sila rin magpapatalsik sa kanya.

    I agree with Nick, Noynoy = Erap.

  15. @Edwin Sampalac, di ako si Jess Montemayor na sinasabi mong gagong Presidente ng KFC. Pambihira ka, minura mo na ako di mo pa sinusiguradong ako nga yun.

    @Mick MacYavelley, bakit kung makasabi ka ng TANGA at BOBO ay parang hindi mo pinatatamaan ang sarile mo? Sa totoo lang, mas nagmumukha kang bobo kaysa sa amin dahil puro panlalait ka lang at wala kang argumentong pwedeng paniwalaan.

    Intellect-ULUL lang kayo. nagkukunwang mga matalino pero mga ulul. At kung kami, jologs, kayo wala sa HULOG. Mga bobong nagkukunwang matalino.

  16. To all pro-Noynoy, FYI hindi po tanga si Cory at huwag n’yo ihalintulad ang nakaraan sa pangkasalukuyan. Ang hirap sa inyo, na-stuck na kayo sa 80’s. Gusto n’yo ng fairy tale, mala-history repeats itself. Guys, isolated case ‘yung kay Cory.

    First, isa lang ang pwedeng lumaban kay Marcos noon na siguradong mananalo at s’ya lang ‘yun dahil sa matinding simpatiya ng mga tao. Second, may yumao noon, si Ninoy na pinaslang. May yumao rin ngayon, si Cory na dahil sa cancer (take note, hindi s’ya pinaslang). Kung nailuklok man si Cory noon, may katuturan ‘yun at dahil doon nakamit ang demokrasya.

    Ngayon, may demokrasya na tayo, sobra-sobra pa nga. Maraming nakikialam, maraming nagmamagaling, maraming nagmamalinis. Hindi porke madasalin or mabait ang isang tao ay s’ya na dapat ang presidente. Isipin n’yo, buong bansa ang hahawakan n’ya. Kung sa mga kumpanya nga ay hindi sapat ang certificate of good moral character para matanggap ka, ito pa kayang sa buong bansa? Eh kung sa matatalino nga nahihirapan paangatin itong bansa, paano pa kung kulang sa kaalaman?

    Aanhin mo ang isang santo kung ang nakapalibot dito ay mga demonyo? Kakainin s’ya ng sistema at igigisa lang s’ya sa sariling n’yang mantika. May panahon pa para mag-isip. Mag-isip sana tayo ng tama at nararapat para sa bayan natin at hindi lang pansariling emosyon ang pinapairal.

  17. To quote a representaive from the National Press Club (sorry I forgot his name): “Noynoy Aquino is a mere creation of the media and the Cory magic.”

    I agree.

  18. @wyiwyg, sana tinanong mo pa yung ibang member ng National Press Club at huwag kang aasa sa opinion ng iisang tao lang.

    Yes, I may agree media is friendly with Noynoy but it is because when he came out, so sudden and unexpected, he became the game-changer right away and completely changed the complexion of the campaign completely.

    Cory Magic, I agree, gives Noynoy a big edge but we can not fault him for that. Can we? Eh bakit sa PERA MAGIC ni Villar at PAAWA MAGIC ni Binay at Erap wala kayong masabi?

    Bad news to Noynoy’s critics, ang nakikita na ngayon ng taumbayan ay ang kalinisan ng panunungkulan ni Noynoy at anf kanyang advocacy for good governance. Noynoy can really stand on his own now.

    I think sour-grape ka lang.

  19. @W….,

    Yes, may demokrasya na tayo at wala na si Marcos. Natumbok mo. Pero bakit ang tao eh kay Noynoy pa rin ( 47% per Pulse Asia at SWS )? Kasi nga, hindi naman talaga beholden si Noynoy kina Cory at Ninoy. Komo may demokrasya na tayo, ang kailangan ng tao ngayon ay GOOD GOVERNANCE na nakita naman natin kay Noynoy.

  20. @W…or Nick,

    Ikaw rin naman yun. Hindi totoong nagpa-endorse kay Erap si Noynoy noong 2007. Dindi ka lang pala mapag-mura, sinungaling pa.

    To cut this debate short, heto kami;

    47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% 47% !!!!!

    At heto naman kayo;

    2% 2%


  21. @JessKFC,

    Kung ang tawag nila sa atin ay JOLOGS, ang dapat itawag natin kay Nick MackYavelley ay JAKOOLS. Kasi, the way he uses several names at pinag-uusap pa niya lahat nang SARILE niya, di malayong ganyan din ang SEX LIFE niya at si MARIANG PALAD lang ang SYOTA niya !! HAR-HAR-HAR-HAR-HAR-HAR!!!! ( hiramin ko muna tawa mo ha?)


    Har-har-har-har-har !

  22. @Jay Lazaro, so be sure even if NICK MACKYAVELLEY comes to us for PEACE, be sure you don’t get to shake his hands, huh???? Otherwise, para mo na ring kinamayan si MARIANG PALAD. Har-har-har-har-har!!!!

  23. Truth be told, Noynoy was a nobody until Cory died. Noynoy was not even nominated for the presidential bid, not even as a bad joke. Then, all of a sudden, there he was, announcing his candidacy. Poor Mar Roxas… si Mar ang nagtanim, si Noynoy ang umani.

    You are so blinded of his “yellowness” that you can’t even see his own flaws. Again, Noynoy got Erap’s endorsement in 2007. So, what’s noble about that? Is that what you call “upright”? Clearly, it was all for political convenience. Hacienda Luisita massacre is not yet fully resolved. He can’t even effect a change on their own land problem, how is he going to effect a change in the totality of our country?

    You are reaching for the moon and the stars that you can’t stand firmly on the ground anymore. Masyado kayo natutuwa sa SWS at Pulse surveys ah. Bumaba muna kayo sa lupa at baka sa kaka-abot n’yo ng langit ay bigla kayo mahagupit ng buhawi na s’yang ikalalagpak n’yo rin. Boomerang!

  24. Goodness gracious… The trolls are here. Bakit nagiging ganito ang discussion ‘pag sumasali ang mga rabid fans ni Noynoy? Shows a lot of breeding, I guess… 🙁

  25. You, guys, are becoming too rude. Pero with all honesty, tingin ko rin JACKOOOOOLS exemplifies the arguments of anti-Noynoy. Parang POLITICAL MASTUR…… ang ginagawa nila. First, they IMAGINE. And from that IMAGINATION, they ENGROSSES themselves in as if everything is real. And they get SATISFACTION from what doing, kahit isyung Mariang Palad pa yun.

    To all Anti-Noynoy out there, I am happy that you find SATISFACTION in what you are doing. Pero at the end of the day, you will realize that Mariang Palad pala does not exist and when your FRUSTRATIONS and ANGUISH start to sip in, you will soon realize na kayo pala ang tunay na BOBO at TANGA.

  26. Hoy, mga anti-Noynoy na JACKOOOOLLS. Nandito ako, always ready to give you satisfaction. Sa akin nyo gamitin ang imagination nyo.

  27. Oo nga, kayo pala ang matatalino. Kaya pala magkaibigan sina Noynoy at Erap dahil matalino nga rin pala si Noynoy. Ayos na ayos. ‘Yan ang poltical will………… the will to get a convicted plunderer to endorse him. Kayo nga mga pro-Noynoy, would you honestly trust Erap to endorse your product if given the chance? LOL! And that’s what you call a person who is against corrupt officials and yet he befriended one.

  28. Inumpisahan kasi ni Nick eh when he called us Jologs, tanga, bobo….gumanti lang kami. A dose of your own medicine.

  29. Tingnan mo mga Anti-Noynoy oh. They are self destructing na. Noynoy daw nagpa-endorse kay ERap. NOT TRUE. LIARS.

  30. @ Julia
    Then you should prove that you’re worth the respect. Answer arguments decently. However, by cursing back, you are as worse as he is.

  31. Wow! You didn’t even know that Noynoy got Erap’s endorsement in 2007? Better do your research first before accusing me as a liar.

  32. Nick, dahling. Wake up. Wake up. Hay naku pagkatapos namin tulog agad…..Wake up, Nick. The Trolls are coming and around us na. Wake up!!!!

  33. That Erap endorsed Noynoy in 2007 is another MASTUR……ARGUMENT. Purely IMAGINATION lang ninyo yun, Tsong.

  34. I rest my case. Now, I believe, blind obedience ang uniiral sa inyong mga pro-Noynoy. Ni hindi n’yo pala alam ang nangyari nung 2007 senatorial elections. Give yourself a favor, do a research first before praising Noynoy to the highest heavens.

  35. Proof? THe burden is yours because you made the silly accusation. ERAP never ENDORSED Noynoy. NEVER.

  36. Susme! Saan ba kayo nakatira? Sa Mars o Jupiter? Magbalik-tanaw po kayo at makikita na itinaas ni Erap ang kamay ni Noynoy para sa pagka-Senador under GO (Genuine Opposition). Hindi lang group pic ‘yun, meron silang 2 lang, nakakulong pa yata si Erap nung kinunan ‘yun. I can still remember ang kayamutan na naramdaman ko upon seeing that horrible photo. 🙁

  37. No point in arguing with you people. So disturbing… Blinded by yellow rays of deception. 🙁

  38. Hay naku, tayong mga anti-noynoy na rin ang may kasalanan ng lahat.

    Kasi, sigaw tayo nang sigay ng BOBO si NOYNOY ! BOBO si NOYNOY !!! Nag-isip ang taumbayan kaya yung sigaw nating BOBO si NOYNOY, naging iBOBOto si Noynoy! iBOBOto si Noynoy. Palitan na kasi natin ang strategy. Parang bumalik sa atin….

    Hoy, Nick, karl at NewFoundGlory gising na. Tulungan mo kami!

  39. Dami pa rin talagang mga bobo at tangang mga pro-Noynoy. Tsk tsk.

    Babagksak talaga ang Pilipinas dahil sa mga mali-maling gagawin ni Noynoy bunga ng kanyang pagiging puppet ng mga Oligarch Hacenderos. Tsk tsk.

    Wawa naman ang Pinas.

    Pero naman kasi: Ang bobobo rin kasi ng maraming Pinoy eh, pumipili ng BOBO at TANGA katulad ni Noynoy na talagang walang alam at wala man lang personality na nakakabilib.

    Tandaan niyo: Bobo si Noynoy, Bobo si Erap, Puppet si Erap ng mga taga-Bindondo, Si Noynoy ang Erap ng mga Hacendero.

    Walang pinagkaiba si Noynoy kay Erap! Pareho silang bobo!

    At bobo kayong mga supporters ni Noynoy!

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