(Free Press editorial cartoon from the 1920s.)
Gentility is supposed to permeate places like country clubs and golf courses. They are the places where the hoi polloi are kept out and where everyone else can see and be seen. When someone like Bambee dela Paz and her family collide with official thugs, the collision isn’t just physical, it’s cultural. The set of rules that keeps the plebs in their place is never supposed to intrude into places where gentility matters.
But power, which relies on armed might to enforce obedience and simulate public respect, by it’s very nature isn’t genteel, can never be civil, will always ride roughshod over others.
I fully sympathize with dela Paz, her father, and her brother: bravo to her for raising hell and bravo to all those who’ve taken up her call for there to be consequences for what happened to them.
There is an irony here, of course: several, actually.
One irony is that gentility is the last thing that really matters in the supposed enclaves of the middle and upper classes, where the old days of black balling potential members because they were scandalous or generally socially unsavory individuals has long disappeared and been replaced by the sort of entitlement culture where mere possession of wealth or influence (the two are joined at the hip like Siamese twins) trumps all other considerations (how obtained and how used?) is what matters.
Another irony is that this incident could only have happened in the national capital, where an altercation in one place can safely be reported by someone when they get home: the metropolis is vast enough for you to be able to get away with blowing the whistle, everyone has kinship ties extended enough, at least among the middle and upper classes, to neutralize those belonging to those with whom you’ve collided.
There is a reason rallies tend to take place in national capitals; there is a reason a young lady can go and blog and have people rally to her cause in sympathy, both expecting something to be done and not having to think through whether the call and rallying to that call will have fatal consequences. It is the existence of a civic culture which is still powerful enough to compel limits on official impunity.
So we have here a clear clash of civilizations: between the entitlement and warlord culture of the provinces, which compels obedience by force, and which doesn’t hesitate to use that force to compel submission by anyone who isn’t part of the ruling clan’s pecking order of enforcers; and the national capital culture which expects self-control of officialdom, which doesn’t think twice about standing up to official bullying; which, even if beaten to a pulp thinks it’s possible to rally support from like-minded people who actually believe in justice and notions of equality -because there are more decent people than the bad.
Still another irony is that People Power is now being mobilized -its first stirrings being the sharing of officially embarrassing news, the stoking of popular outrage, the expression of public opinion, the coming together of a constituency mobilized by shared values- among the sort of people who’d shrugged off so many other acts of official impunity. There is a lesson here somewhere: and it’s a simple one. Impunity eventually sows the seeds of its own destruction. There will always come a time when a line will be crossed, and it’s a line too far.
Which is not to say that this incident will cause a revolution; but it is proof of how reality will always intrude into even the politest of conversations.
The coming year is going to be a showdown, of sorts, between the exponents of the culture of impunity, from the President to her allies on the official and local level. It is a showdown between those who furiously resent a political culture where public opinion matters, where impunity is challenged, and where privilege is supposed to be something subjected to questioning.
In Resistance isn’t futile, I mentioned just one way I oppose impunity: by blowing my horn at official convoys. This holiday season, I had the satisfaction of doing so, to the president’s convoy itself, twice. The second time around, the President passed within spitting distance and the PSG actually craned their necks to get a view at whoever was committing this act of lese majeste. They genuinely seemed startled. I myself was startled to see that the President no longer uses license plate No. 1 on her car. Her limousine has no license plate, at all.
My point is we see this impunity all the time, in small ways, and shrug it off -oddly enough, in the same manner we shrug off the big, spectacular, cases of impunity, too- when we ought to start tying it all together.
And their project next year is to basically abolish public opinion; to reduce it to its component local parts, where public opinion has been muted, and where it can be treated in such a way and such a manner as to be beyond questioning, court cases, heckling, letters to the editor or blog entries demanding resignations: because the trump card of an official when it comes to the provinces is the message every bodyguard represents: you can run, but you can’t hide.
Wait till the Nasser Pangandamans of this country are both members of parliament and ministers of state, ruling over Federal states where their writ is literally and not just figuratively, the law.
You’ve seen what has been unfolding over the past few years and what is out to entrench itself over the first quarter of this year.
The danger is to confuse the forest for the trees. We are susceptible to doing this: shrieking over Estrada’s threatening to run for office, while overlooking the President who cynically released him with a pardon; twisting Cory Aquino’s comments out of all recognition while overlooking how truly mistaken everyone was, to think the President would be a stateswoman and not a thug in skirts; wringing our hands over Mar Roxas’s cussing when no government since martial law has so thoroughly justified cussing because of it’s crossing every line, written or not, expected of officialdom; placing traffic and corporate premiums over public demonstrations of outrage; venomously scorning Jun Lozada while overlooking the officials who wanted him rubbed out and who very nearly managed to do it.
The Japanese had a chance to be welcomed to the Philippines, as they were in many other parts of Asia, as liberating heroes, except they proceeded to slap Filipinos who refused to bow to them; and so, resistance was immediately sparked, even among those disillusioned with the Allied cause. Again, I’m not saying this appalling incident will accomplish anything more than inspire horrified tut-tutting over how tasteless, and ungentlemanly, the President’s official family is. But you never know.
Postscript:
The incident seems destined to get bogged down in Court. Court is appropriate for determining the monentary compensation due the ones beaten up. The Court of Public Opinion is where this ought to be settled politically, and the political solution is twofold: the resignation of the Secretary of Agrarian Reform or his being fired if he refuses to quit; and the suspension of the Secretary’s son, the mayor, immediately. And if those currently angry really want to do something, then they belong to the circles of our society that can effectively embark on a campaign of social ostracism against not just Secretary-father and mayor-son, but, so long as no Executive action is taken, then against the entire official family of the President. This includes the children of officials who drive No. 8 cars to school, at any official beyond the handful mandated by Executive Order as entitled to official escorts, to officials who have more than one bodyguard, and so on.
Officials have quit or been made to resign elsewhere for much less.
Good reads: see Of Golf, the Internet and Elites, and We haven’t really gone anywhere and Piyudal
kaminaman should reveal himself. I like this parody he’s making. Very… well, to the point.
madonna, stop reading Poe. He’s the worst overwriter. I only realized this mga 7 years ago. He’s a bad influence to us, too.
@golf course
People stop hating anything and everything about the pangandaman. Hindi pa natin alam ang lahat. There is a possibility the dela Pazes started it. Quite likely really. They hear probinsyano accent, they get pissed.
I’m not saying these pols should get away, I’m saying invest your anger on areas that will actually STICK. I keep telling you, it not the beating up itself, its the use of bodyguards.
Dahil umiyak lang si bambee sa camera di ibig sabihin tama na ang pamilya nya. Pano kung sila pala talaga ang naunang maging violent. Mas Malaki sila. Pandak lang ang mga Pangandaman. This isn’t ellentordessillas blog. I was hoping we’d be more reasonable.
I was really hoping we could use this to take the bodyguard threat off. Manolo mentioned he honks his horn at the president’s car. Eh what if tinutukan sya ng armalite? Nangyayari mga ganito, eh.
I detest in the strongest word possible these overkill. I’m sure this so-called Mayor Nasser Pangandaman Jr. doesn’t have the guts to square off with even the 14-year old Bino dela Paz. How COWARDLY this mayor hiding behind his phalanx of security guards. I’d say he better wear a skirt if he can’t show to us that he’s man enough to stand on his ground. I spit on you!!!
Brianb, kung ang mga de la paz nga ang nag-umpisa, bakit hanggang club house meron pang gulo? Di ba tapos na sana sa Tee house?
On the other hand, if it were the Pangandamans who were really at fault, what do we expect the punishment should be? Manolo already touched on this, and I agree. What they’ve done is none punishable by electric chair, but it doesn’t look good for public officials to lose their cool in public.
Kahit wala ako doon sa golf course, I would think that it was the Pangandamans who were at fault. The De la paz kids are world class junior golfers, violence is not in their vocabulary.
In the two versions of this incident, I would give more credence to Bambi’s account.
Just don’t invest your anger on IFs, is my point. I’m not the prosecutor, you know.
Sure BrianB, but I can’t be happy with things like this. Bloggers who share the same sentiment can’t be blamed for feeling so, right?
Let’s wait and see what ordinary people on the street say (and feel) about this. I’m waiting for videos/interviews…
Let our friends and people in the world know that management of “Valley Golf and Country Club” will not help them when trouble happened on their property.
shimvita, i asked someone to check iligan police archive for nasser pangandaman and the result is ‘no record’
Who give’s a rats ass if the middle class are being reactionary towards the incident? Any reaction is better than none at all. And to those little leftists who rant about “no one cried when journalists were killed”, get it into your puny marxist-leninist-maoist heads that people will almost always be reactionary in nature. I dont give a crap if you people think the middle class are just being whiny, selfish bastards. I’m more interested in the social experiment that will take place. The details and ideologies behind it dont matter, only its effects do. Kinda hoping for vigilantes or serial killers to cause some trouble in this country. Chaos would be great. Lots of people talk about change, or doing something different. Why not put a bullet into a politician’s head? It would send shock waves to this country. Nearly all democracies of the modern age went through a phase of blood and carnage, like the great terror of the French Revolution. What we need is anarchy, vendetta, chaos.
The EQ “No Brainer “Test:Who will eventually be blamed for the golf brawl?
1)The 56 year old dad and his 14 year old son
2)Nasser Jr. and his bodyguards
3)The probe body will find the De La Paz family (56 year-old dad and 14 year-old son) and Nasser Jr. and bodyguards EQUALLY GUILTY.
4)”It didn’t happen at all” (no witnesses!)
“to the anti-gloria people, this is gloria’s fault. ”
to the pro-gloria people, this is the opposition’s fault, heheh.
BrianB,
With all due respect, you can’t tell me who I should not read or read. Just because I quoted E.A. Poe doesn’t mean that I really dig him. LOL — in fact, the Cask of Amontillado is the only short story by him that I like — most esp. the first para — it’s perhaps one of the best opening lines. Err, bad influence, you say — after all we’ve gone through as a people — you think the ghoulish-inclined Poe is dangerous? Dangerous to whom? I find that downright funny, if not ridiculous — coming from you.
“We will have our day we bury those hoodlums under bricks of stone, as they weep, begging us to spare them.”
Or, better yet…cut their heads off using a rusty gillette blade while they wriggle, begging us to spare them, lol.
The Pangandamans should know better, even IF somehow it was de la Paz who started the fight. They are government officials. They should not have, in the first place, beaten up a 14-year old (even if the Pangandamans would claim the boy cursed them). Doon pa lang, maling-mali na.
madonna, in writing, a bad influence. Overwriter but to us pinoys he sounds really good, right?
Repost from FV from one brianna asal:
“Below is a true and actual narration of the incident that happened last December 26, 2008 at the Valley Golf Club, Antipolo, Rizal.
On December 26, 2008 at around 11:00am, our group composed of Rene Maglanque, Sec. Nasser Panagandaman, Arnel Estacio and Atty. Faisal Abdullah registered to play with the Valley Golf on the first (1st) flight of our group. The second (2nd) flight was composed of Hussein Pangandaman, Adnan Pacasum, Nasser Pangandaman, Jr. and Farah Locsin. We also registered the eight year old son of Hussein named Angelo Pangandaman whom they cannot leave behind the clubhouse as there will be no one to take care of him.
Nasser Pangandaman, Jr. and Farah Locsin were late. They caught up with their flight (2nd) at hole no. 4 accompanied by a marshall and their caddies riding on two golf carts and in the process overtaking the flight of Mr. Delfin de la Paz who reacted by protesting what seems to be an overtaking of flight. Nasser Jr. explained to the elder De la Paz that they will just catch up and join their flight mates at hole no. 4. He further explained that they, who like them, had earlier lined up to play and were pre-registered. With the said explanation, del Paz replied “Okey, kortesiya lang.â€Â
When the 2nd flight of Nasser Jr. already played hole no. 4 which is a par 3 and Nasser Jr. was still outside of the green trying to pitch his ball into the green, the flight of dela Paz hit their shots into the green which almost hit Hussein without shouting “Fore!â€Â. Surprised, though sensing trouble which they deemed to choose to avoid, they allowed the other Dela Paz player to hit his shot so they can peacefully resume and concentrate on their playing. At this point, the caddy of Nasser Jr also took the 8 year old Angelo to stay behind the golf cart to avoid being hit by golf balls coming from the dela Paz players.
On the next hole which is hole no. 5, after the 2nd Pangandaman flight hit their drives into the fairway and before they could hit their second shots, again the dela Paz players hit their drives without warning by shouting “foreâ€Â! the 2nd Pangandaman flight puzzled and surprised asked themselves why the flight behind them were doing this to them since they could be hit by their golf balls. One caddy even said, “Ano ba yun?â€Â
When the 2nd flight reached the green of hole no. 5 and after holing out, they joined the 1st flight of Sec. Pangandaman and took their snacks. While doing so, the marshall approached and told Nasser Jr. that the dela Paz’s were complaining why they were 5 of them in their group and why they overtook their flight. Nasser Jr. reiterated to the marshall what he explained to the elder dela Paz, which his knowledge the former already accepted his explanation.
Later, unconvinced even after the marshall relayed to him that there were only four (4) and not five (5) in their flight, and that they were not overtaking as they just had to go back to the clubhouse and later join their flight.
The elder dela Paz came and approached Nasser Jr. already agitated and pointing saying, “Mali ka! There were two carts in your flight and you overtook us!†Nasser Jr. answered, “Akala ko po, Sir, nagkaintindihan na ho tayo kaninaâ€Â.
Explaining about them not overtaking yet elder dela Paz was not convinced , and at the top of his voice said, “Putang ina ka! Member ka ba dito, ha?, Hindi mo ba ako kilala?â€Â
Nasser Jr. patiently and respectfully explained again to him their side, even using “po†and “Sir†– as a sign of respect without revealing that he is the Mayor of Masiu, Lanao del Sur, and replied, “Bakit po kayo sumisigaw? Hindi po tayo nag-aawayâ€Â.
The elder dela Paz reacted, “Ikaw ang naghahanap ng away!â€Â, while pulling his umbrella and thrusted the pointed part and hit the belly of Nasser Jr., while the latter was backing up.
The marshall tried to intervene but the elder Dino dela Paz pressed on which prompted and led Hussein to defend his brother. Dela Paz punched Hussein and they engaged in a fist fight.
Meantine, Nasser Jr., prevented the two (2) younger dela Paz from joining the fight by saying, “Awat na, Awat naâ€Â. but they got away from him and went in between their father and Hussein. The two young dela Paz was able to hold Hussein preventing him to reach the elder dela Paz as if “umaawatâ€Â. Yet, Bino Lorenzo dela Paz kept punching Hussein in the face and Marie dela Paz from behind kept on scratching his face.
In one instance, the elder Dino dela Paz took hold of a golf club driver and tried to hit Hussein. But, Rene Maglanque was able to get hold of the driver’s shaft and took it away from him.
Later on, Sec. Pangandaman, Rene Maglanque, and another golfer from another flight pacified everybody and asked the dela Paz’s to just leave them to prevent further trouble. Delfin dela Paz called someone in his cellphone and we heard him say, “Punta kayo ditto! May away kami!â€Â
The dela Paz’s left. And, after about ten minutes, our group also discontinued playing and went back to the clubhouse. When Hussein was hurrying up to the bathroom to relieve himself and wash his wounds, the elder Dino dela Paz accosted him and warned him in a threatening voice, “Ikaw mag-ingat ka! Hindi pa tayo tapos! Gagantihan kita!â€Â
Blocking is way to the locker room, Hussein replied, “Hindi ka pa ba umaalis? Sumusobra ka naâ€Â, the young Bino Lorenzo went in the middle saying, “Huwag po, fourteen years old lang akoâ€Â, and yet having his fist ready to give him a punch.
Hence, Hussein defended himself and the three engaged in another fist fight. Maridel dela Paz came from behind Hussein and started scratching Hussein on the right cheek, the neck, and ear, while pulling and tearing his shirt.
Immediately after, they were prevented from further engaging in a fist fight by those present in the clubhouse, the security and other golfers. But the elder dela Paz still shouted “Gaganti ako. Hindi pa tayo tapos.â€Â
The rest of the dela Paz family arrived, with the eldest son carrying a baseball bat. The wife in “duster†with a bladed weapon in hand, as if ready to assault Hussein. They were likewise prevented by the clubhouse security and other golfers present.
At this point, Sec. Pangandaman told his sons to leave already and the dela Paz’s to stop and leave, so that no more untoward incident would happen. Soon, we also left but we had to leave through the parking exit because the dela Paz family was waiting for us at the clubhouse lobby”
link:
http://www.filipinovoices.com/of-political-arrogance-a-nightmare-at-a-golf-course#comment-25278
BrianB,
Oh, I see, so this is a matter of bad writing and good writing — accord. to you (in your first statement). I had thought that you were merely irritated with the use of Poe’s material.
Opps, apparently not only that… because
As to your question — I don’t know, you tell me since I can’t speak for the whole Pinoy nation (I spoke as a member of the middle class in response to DreamCatcher). I didn’t say that “he [Poe] sounds good to us pinoys”, did I?
Maybe I was just talking about myself.
BrianB, what malarkey! can you believe that? one man, a boy, and a girl can gang up on only one man, when there are three or four other men, his companions, around? what father wil endanger his children that way? f*king unbelievable!
Madonna,
“Fall of the House of Usher” is by EA Poe right? I enjoyed its movie adaptation
Ronald del Rosario :
“Would you still agree to the old man who said that the Philippines was better even if it is “ran like hell by Filipinosâ€Â?”
if i remember my history right, that old man never said the country was better if it is “ran like hell by Filipinosâ€Â. what he said was he preferred a Philippines run like hell by Filipinos to a Philippines run like heaven by Americans.
scalia, it’s about having pride that, tragically, we never got too.
kainaman, i appreciate your point, but the reality is that this episode is a middle-class friendly controversy. no dangerous ideology to threaten their way of life (unlike Burgos, for example). the heroes/heroines come in neat, innocent packagesn (unlike Jun Lozada who is damaged goods). the villains are Muslims and politicos. Sense of proportion aside, anything that wakes them from apathy is good practice, i guess.
i don’t like this talk of mass slaughter and if this continues i will be compeled to delete such messages. there are very few rules i insist on, and no death threats is one of them.
BrianB :
scalia, it’s about having pride that, tragically, we never got too.
Yeah, too bad. Too much pride ended up beating a 14 yr old kid. Hmmmm is that the same pride you want to instill to your kids. If they beat the old man thats good for them, its like Pacman beating Dela hoya. Whether they like it or not, the actions simply reflects how narrow minded politicos they are. Or maybe too much PRIDE covered half of their brain, disallowing a thorough sizing up of their sorroundings before doin their act of violence. It could be that, the boy is too big for them to think that he is only 14 or maybe its really their way of handling things on their estate.
Kawawa naman yung bata but mas naaawa ako kay mayor at sa tropa nya kasi ang hirap din naman mag isip paano lumusot sa ganitong sitwasyon. Akalain mo CabSec pa naman father nun, so ang hirap din. Kayo din kaya ang ilagay sa posisyon ni mayor?ano kaya sa pakiramdam nyo? may posisyon na iniingatan, may career na kailangang pagandahin. abah mahirap din yun. hahanap pa sila ng mga state prosecutors na babayaran ng 50M tulad ng ALABANG BOYS.
abah, mahirap din kaya mag isip. Lalo nat ang isip eh pabalagbag. abah……..
My apology to Manolo, and to all. That was no death threat, just a tongue-in-cheek-trying-hard witty response to a post. I am sorry.
Trying to make this incident into a national symbol for outrage is overreaching.
From what I’ve read so far, it was an altercation between uncouth probinsyanos and stuck-up, indolent city slickers. It may strike a chord with some touchy middle class folk, but it’s “par for the course” for the rest of the Filipino nation. After all, the Filipino priveleged class has treated the rest of the Filipinos like shit for so many decades.
“i don’t like this talk of mass slaughter and if this continues i will be compeled to delete such messages. there are very few rules i insist on, and no death threats is one of them.”
Mass slaughter… ha ha ha. Too funny.
darkangel, the comment has to do with Quezon’s statement about Filipinos running pinas like hell.
“BrianB, what malarkey! can you believe that? one man, a boy, and a girl can gang up on only one man, when there are three or four other men, his companions, around? what father wil endanger his children that way? f*king unbelievable!”
Mindanaoan, think about it. Some men are braver when in situations that they see won’t result into violence. It was a golf course and yes he had kids with him. Who would’ve thunk? I have a personal experience that compares. The man was a balding short guy. He was with his wife and three kids, one of whom was a baby in a trolley. How the men went at me, geez! Tapang tapang. He even poked me with his forefinger several times. I doubt if he would even so much as lift his eyes if he was alone.
Yeah, I couldn’t do anything with his family around. This happened in a mall, though.
‘en campos de batalla, luchando con delirio’ so the Pangandaman’s thought their golf course was.
hope the de la paz’s won’t apologize in the years to come.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,473744,00.html
I pity the pols,almost. “Pinoy pugilists”? Ya haha. They still hung over dela Hoya’s defeat, methinks.
BrianB,
The article you posted is another side of the story. I need to see the version from the point of view of the club management. It’s impartial to me, compared to the two sides.
philwo, that was just a curiosity, probably from the pangandaman PR people or their lawyer. Some girl commenting at FV posted it. I wonder how she got hold of a copy.
http://delfindjmontano.blogspot.com/2008/12/crazy.html
Brian Gorrell finally! Now we got a genuine fighter of the pinoy oppressed.
Brian B,
Ok. Thanks for the clarification. It kinda makes a bit of the story part from Bambie’s mix a bit, but where was the gun pointed part? I’m already pissed at the club management for being shut in the case.
If all else fail which I hope not but past experience tells us that under the Garcified presidency miracles do happen, here is a stress reliever for golfers so they can whack (not literally so don’t get any bad idea, lol)a mayor BULLY while improving ones’ golf skills.
DAR sec already apologized not for what has happened or his role or what his sons have done, but just that it happened! That’s legal speak for not admitting guilt, right?
While people are being swayed to sleep until another controversy comes, counter prop (like what Brian has posted) is executed. This tells me that the Pangandamans are not going to take the attacks sitting down. They’re not going to back down either.
it’s on fox news. more international coverage is coming.
BrainB,
“I have a personal experience that compares. The man was a balding short guy. He was with his wife and three kids, one of whom was a baby in a trolley. How the men went at me, geez! Tapang tapang. He even poked me with his forefinger several times. I doubt if he would even so much as lift his eyes if he was alone.
Yeah, I couldn’t do anything with his family around. This happened in a mall, though.”
Yup. I feel for you.
But if his 2 other kids were that large ; his “bravery” against your implied lonesome needs no further elaboration.
Ooops Sorry BrianB about misspelling.
BrianB, if you were alone when you were accosted, that’s a different story. the pangandamans have male companions. if two others step in to make their presence felt, i can’t believe the father won’t shoo his children away, if he realy wants to fight. the story is unbelievable.
Philippine Daily Inquirer is MINIMIZING DAMAGE for the sick-Sec by calling it a “Brawl” instead of the truthful “Maul.”
According to the article someone in Pangandaman’s group was hit with “an umbrella.” Then the sick-Sec let his goons at the businessman and his family.
HOW CAN THAT BE A “BRAWL?”
Inquirer is doing a cheap cleansing job.
SPREAD THE WORD!
May I just say that maybe the root of the evil so to speak is our penchant to always not commit to something as right or wrong. There is always that gray zone, a murky realm where the light of day and truth is easily dispensed with. Is there a separate set of right and wrong when we talk of the elite and the hoi polloi? Why do we have to imply that there are different sets of standards here. What am I saying? Its fact that society has not really taken good care of people who “do not have it” (that is an understatement) and you know what they say, a boomerang always comes back. When that happens, we blog it and complain about it. Imagine the rightful anguish of the poor who are not only deprived of material goods but of dignity as well, their inability to be heard. Incidents like this golf club mauling only happens because sometime in the past we were silent when the same perpetrators were allowed to get away with worse simply because the victims were inconsequential hoi polloi and not the cream of society who are able to indulge in golf games and the like. The best way to prevent this and make something of our country is that we treat each person equally, with inalienable rights as human beings to be accorded dignity. Otherwise this will not be the last and it will just go on and on and we would be going nowhere fast. The true test of a rule is if it will do justice to society. We must remember that this kind of incident dehumanizes not just the parties but everyone concerned if we turn a blind eye and ear to the cries for justice.
The FV comment BrianB posted is now the official statement of the Pangandaman group.
A story for the stupids. Bodyguards not immobilizing attackers of their VIPs armed with umbrellas and driver clubs. A secretary’s son who has just figured in a fight enters the locker room sans bodyguards. An unknown golfer telling a club VIP “hindi ba ninyo ako kilala?” A resbak team with a man brandishing a baseball bat and a woman with a bladed weapon? The Father, Bino and Bambee ganging up on Hussein while the rest of the Pandangaman’s group just watched – all eleven of them!
Who wrote this, Bunye?
That’s what you get for “listening to the other side”.
Carl,
So now it’s a rural vs urban thing.
But how could you miss the part of one side being public officials?
Haven’t you read that part yet?
But if you are referring to the Pangandamans as the privileged class treating the De la Pazs as shit like the Pangandamans would treat the rest of the Filipinos; there wouldn’t even be a handful here who would disagree with you.
And BrianB’s own comment of “Something should be done, generally speaking” in his Dec. 28, 4:36 pm post should appropriately address your issue there.
And though it wouldn’t exculpate the Pangandamans for what they “supposedly” did, if however you are lumping the Dela Pazs as members of the privileged class themselves who treat the rest of the Filipinos like shit; maybe its best if you provide certain instances of the Dela Pazs acting as such so we can judge it for ourselves.
My apologies for reposting this, I have to delete the original and repost it the links somehow screwed the post….
If all else fail which I hope not but past experience tells us that under the Garcified presidency miracles do happen, here is a stress reliever for golfers so they can whack (not literally so don’t get any bad idea, lol) a mayor BULLY while improving ones’ golf skills.