Berserkers and a breather
The President’s fury at inept underlings made the evening news and was blogged extensively (one of the first to do so was Ang sa Wari Ko; while A Filipina Mom Blogger used it as a take off point for a discussion on stress management).
But it was Palace reporter Jove Francisco who put the exhibition of presidential temper in its proper context:
She’s naturally stern and “mataray†and I believe she’s been using this trait so that she’ll get things running and will make her officials more responsible and quick moving. Sabi nga nung sassy reporter di ba, being mataray isn’t really a bad thing.
But seeing her actions this noon.
The outburst?
The overflow of emotions?
I couldn’t help but compare it with past incidents.
Before, her taray ways surfaced for a reason, for an aim.
Today?
What happened, sadly, showed that she wasn’t able to control her emotions.
Sure, the outburst was borne out of frustration because of the inefficiency of her staff. (Pareho lang kapag pinapagalitan ang mga opisyales niya nuon di ba?)
BUT, it can’t be denied that this time, she looked like she was whining.
She knew that the media was there to see and cover the whole thing, but she continued with the histrionics. The drama escalated, it didn’t taper down.
She didn’t appear like she was in control.
I can even dare say that she appeared like she’s gone ROCK BOTTOM. (Just look at her resigned but angry look when she finally emerged to deliver her statement.)
And that is quite telling.
I agree with him. A president with a temper is nothing new, and it could even be argued that Filipino-style management seems to require a volcanic fury to get underlings to get things done. In itself, it is neither unpresidential or unseemly. She’s displayed her temper before. But what was different was that the President displayed a different kind of anger altogether.
Tempers are flaring. See The Geisha Diaries, and in Dumaguete, see village idiot savant. Though mercifully, the initial heat has given way to more sober reflection (see Techniquement, c’est art who responds to a previous entry of his).
One blogger, the cat is out, simply puts forward her grim personal experience in the past:
years back – as i kid i had witnessed and live through the horror of war in mindanao. i have been a refugee in my own country. not everyone is lucky enough to live through it . but there will always be the scar: physical and emotional that will keep on reminding me/us..of the pain we have suffered.
mindanao – the land of promise..or should i say broken promises..we are the bread basket of the phillipines, yet our people are hungry.. we are the only contiguous island the philippines has.. yet within, we are so divided in hearts and minds..year after year of conlficts have only produced military generals but not concrete resolutions to peace and development. not even a signed moa can end this violence i tell you..
i did not know how the war started back then…i do not know how it will end.
Today’s Inquirer editorial looks at the recent conduct of MILF troops and raises a question: if the violence in Mindanao was perpetrated by rogue or lost commands of the MILF, how, then, can it be deemed capable of administering the proposed BJE?
The editorial also points to this press statement by the MILF, while over at The PCIJ blog, Soliman Santos suggests the further radicalization of Moros if hostilities continue. He points to this commentary (“Reality Check” by Ibrahim Canana) that appeared on the MILF website (incidentally also validating my opinion concerning the importance of signing the agreement in the presence of representatives of foreign powers, including the OIC representative): it is a concise and lucid articulation of the Moro interpretation of their history and of the MILF position vis a vis the Philippine state. And it is uncompromising in its conclusion:
The political opposition to the MOA-AD that spurred the nationwide reaction against the MILF and the Bangsamoro people has dangerously transformed a peace process that is supposed to bring reconciliation to two peoples at war with each other into a grim scenario that allows no space for the Moros to have a breathing spell.
Through the MNLF, the Moros asked for a meaningful political autonomy in 1976. Instead they were granted a fake one by the GRP under the Marcos regime using the 1976 Tripoli Agreement which allowed constitutional processes to shortchange the Moros. In 1996, the Moros again under the MNLF demanded for meaningful political autonomy; and again what they were given in the so-called MNLF-GRP Final Peace Agreement (FPA) was the ARMM, which was created before the FPA and whose autonomy was clipped by the Philippine constitution. Inevitably, the ARMM ended up reduced to merely being an extension of the Office of the Philippine President. Later, it was even taken out of MNLF hands and became a political prize awarded to the Moro warlord most loyal and subservient to the sitting regime.
Now, under the MILF, the Moros want to recover whatever little is left of their ancestral domain and be given the chance to govern themselves as a sub-state entity within the larger Philippine nation-state. Peace on the basis of justice is about to be achieved under this formula. But even this does not sit well with the Filipino elite, the politicians, the Church and the Filipino colons in Mindanao. They have sabotaged the efforts of their own government. All, including those who claimed to be sympathetic to the plight of the Bangsamoro people like Senator Aquilino ‘Nene’ Pimentel, Jr., have ganged up against the Bangsamoro people to prevent them from even reclaiming areas which they now actually occupy and where they are the majority. The result: back to square one. Mindanao again is on the edge of an all-out war.The selfishness of the Filipino ruling elite in general and the Filipino politicians in particular is dumbfounding. Their lack of sense of justice is appalling. They and their drumbeaters in the Philippine media can lie through their teeth and still have a nice sleep at night. Imagine telling the public the fantastic spin that Malaysia is arming the MILF and the Americans are behind the Moros’ desire to be an “independent Islamic Stateâ€Â. Why, they can’t even make sense of their allegations and lies! You can never find any mention of an “independent Islamic state†in the MOA-AD even if the pages were turned upside down. To even say that the Americans are behind the attempt by the MILF to create a “Bangsamoro Islamic State†is absurd. What fantasy! What ignorance! Hollywood hogwash has taken grip of the Filipino mind that it no longer knows what is real and what is imaginary. No wonder why the Philippine nation-state is moribund.
No wonder why tens of thousands of Filipinos are leaving this country for good. Now I can better appreciate the context of what Ustadz Salamat Hashim, the late MILF Amir, said when he stated that we should not believe the Filipino unbelievers even when they say that the crow is black!
What needs to be stated here for the record is that we Moros are not inclined to abandon our homeland to these vultures. We will fight for it as our ancestors fought for it. The mestizo leftovers of the Spaniards such as the likes of Teddy Locsin and Lobregat, and Filipino colons in Mindanao like Piñol as well as their capitalist patrons ensconced in Makati can go hang themselves from nearest lamp post for all we care. The Moros will fight. MILF Base Commander Ustadz Amirul Ombra Cato will not be alone. A war in Mindanao will drag down this pathetic, artificial country and its government to perdition. Perhaps this time we will no longer settle for a sub-state or a federative arrangement with the Filipinos. It’s useless anyway because they would never grant it. They would always insist this is ‘secession’ even if we do not have the intention to secede. So let’s give them a dose of their own medicine. Let’s aim for independence this time. For real. Like what the Algerians did when their clamor for autonomous rule was repeatedly and violently denied by the French colons. Given the Filipinos’ hostile attitude to anything Moro and Muslim, there is no other option left. This is now the reality facing us.
The mention of Algeria is signficant. It had been considered an integral part of France; de Gaulle, faced with a nationalist uprising, decided to abandon the French settlers and recognize Algeria’s independence; at one point, the French armed forces tried to mount a coup against de Gaulle. Yet independence hasn’t prevented the rise of Islamic extremism in Algeria. The problem is Arroyo is no de Gaulle.
The frustration of the writer quoted above with suggestions the Americans are in league with the MILF (or that the MILF is being armed by the Malaysians, when obviously political and even financial support is plenty of help and there are many AFP members willing to sell arms to the MILF anyway) isn’t about to change the mind of say, Tony Abaya (who says it boils down to the MILF being, in American eyes, more dependable than Christian leaders) or blogger Philippine Politics 04.
And the thing is, if one presents a narrative, even a counter-narrative, it will never end (if Moros can assert they achieved a “higher plane” of political existence with the sultanates, then by any measure a republic trumps any hereditary principality in terms of political evolution) and be trumped, always by what wars always end up being about: real estate.
In his column today, Manuel Buencamino points to the problem on focusing too much on the past as a justification for the present:
Why did the Arroyo administration agree to the MILF’s self-serving historical timeline?
Islam is no more indigenous than Christianity. The Spaniards were not our first colonizers. Luwaran, the MILF web site, does not deny that Moros are products of an earlier colonization:
“Ameen [secretary general of the MILF Central Committee] recalled that the history of the Moros and IPs [indigenous peoples] is one and inseparable, but noted that the former were always the ‘bigger brother’ while the latter [was] the ‘younger brother.’†Moros “have developed a higher plane of political existence†than lumads because they converted to Islam and adopted the sultanate system.
In that same Sona, Gloria Arroyo lamented that although Mindanao was a food basket, “it has some of the highest hunger in our nation.†For this sad state of affairs, she blamed “the endless Mindanao conflict.†Her solution to ending the endless conflict was to capitulate to the MILF.
Arroyo knows the BJE does not fit into the 1987 Constitution, so she asked Congress “to act on the legislative and political reforms that will lead to a just and lasting peace during our term of office.â€Â
Unfortunately, a “just and lasting peace†through a refitting of the BJE into our Constitution won’t be possible during or after her term of office.
There will be conflicts between the lumads and the MILF, between Christians and the MILF, between Manila and the MILF over jurisdiction, ownership of lands, mineral rights, natural resources and a host of other irritants that come from drawing lines on a map without regard for its inhabitants.
There will be power struggles among self-appointed Moro leadersâ€â€the Maranao-dominated MILF, the Tausog-dominated MNLF and the traditional politicians of Mindanaoâ€â€over control of the BJE.
“Better talk than fight, if nothing of sovereign value is anyway lost,†counseled Gloria Arroyo in her Sona.
Unfortunately, talking nonsense will lead to loss not only of sovereign value but also, and more important, of property. And for that, most people will fight to the death.
For the Christian (Ilonggo) side, HabagatCentral Republic offers up a personal reflection buttressing Buencamino’s insight:
There were cases of outright land grabbing from the ancestral domains of the Moros and Lumads who were then ignorant about the Western concept of “private property†as the lands were considered “communal†and for all people to share. Land grabbing that lead to land conflicts. Land conflicts that lead to bloodshed, my grandfather himself was a victim of this trechery.
I have relatives in Mindanao who have hated the Moros. They are backward, backstabbers and barbarian. Di daw dapat sila pagkakatiwalaan. Di ko rin sila masisisi. They’ve seen their love ones slaughtered by the Moro raids of the towns especially during the 1970’s. The very foundation of Ilaga, a vigilante group composed of mostly Kristyanos and some Lumads, was borne out of reaction against the Moros. They sow terrorism in the hearts of the Moros as they kill them with reported cannibal activities. As a reaction, the Moros established their own vigilante group known as the Blackshirts/Barracudas. So the question, is terrorism a Moro problem?
MNLF/MILF & AFP has instigated a somewhat revolutionary violence. The former is for the seperation of the Mindanao that they claim is rightfully theirs, and I understand them. They weren’t subjugated by the Spaniards and was never converted to Christianity as what they define as “Filipino.†They are fiercely independent and will fight for what is right. The latter on the other hand defends the Philippines and its sovereignity. Their causes are noble yet the effects to ordinary civilians were catastrophic. Casualties have reached over a hundred thousand for years of war with each other in Mindanao. No matter how noble their causes are, it is still somewhat politically-culturaly motivated. In the end, the civilians still suffer.
In my opinion, I would still uphold MILF as a revolutionary movement still. Abu Sayyaff on the other hand is just pure banditry using Islam as an excuse to their savagery. The latter in my belief is the salot. The former on the other hand has still a handful of options to sit and talk what is necessary. For the betterment of their own peoples.
Ewan ko lang pero parang hindi ko maiwasan na ibuntong ang sisi sa Pamahalaang Arroyo sa mga pangyayaring ito ngayon na muling gumigimbala sa kapayapaan ng Mindanao at Pilipinas. I went there several years ago and I was seeing optimism that finally, Mindanao can move on towards peace and progress. That the government is seating alongside with the rebels. But because of the sudden declaration of the signing of the Memo of Agreement for the Bangsamoro Judirical Entity, Mindanao was thrown into state of panic, may it be the Kristyanos, the Moros and even the Lumads.
I’ve restrained myself from looking into other blogs of the Kristyanos and even of the Moros…Its really frustrating. Parang sumulpot muli ang inate hatred towards each other. I got frustrated with this notion but I couldn’t blame them why. I understand them. But is violence or war really the solution to ever-lasting peace in this island or in this country? Care to look at Palestine perhaps? You may have crushed the rebels but you haven’t ceased yet the root of struggle. Hanggang dahon at sanga lang…pero yung ugat di pa napapatay. Purging Moro ideals to the point of genocide is of murder, that is outright savagery! So what do we do then? How can we help to stop the vicious cycle.
I was thinking then that this animosity of ours will be brought towards the end of human civilization.
Ano kaya ang tamang solusyon sa Mindanao/Bangsamoro Problem? Ridu rin ba kaya o ubusan ng lahi?
As far as making sense of events, As blogger smoke asks what many are asking: was the President even thinking?
The thing is this – the President’s men (and therefore the President herself) dangled the idea of the BJE in front of the bandits and sold themselves on the idea that it would work. This played them right into the bandit’s hands: by putting all their eggs in the BJE basket, the President’s men gave the bandits the opportunity to set up an ultimatum – give us the BJE or we start shooting again.
When the BJE was scuttled the bandits got their casus belli. Now admittedly its a flimsy rationale for the resumption of hostilities, but it is just solid enough to rile up the cannon-fodder and convince them that they’ve been shafted and therefore need to avenge their slighted pride. It’s Moro psychology 101, if anyone had bothered to check.
And that’s the point: the Commander-in-Chief is supposed to be able to take in the whole picture; to understand how various factors all contribute to the outcome. In this case, because the President’s men were allowed – perhaps even encouraged – to formulate a do-or-die solution, it is clear that there were critical factors that were ignored, not the least of which is the very well known tendency of Moros to exaggerate insults to their pride.
In hostage negotiation, one of the most basic lessons is to never say no to the hostage taker. But then again, this also covers situations where saying ‘yes’ sets you up to say ‘no’ later. Let me clarify: by saying yes to the idea of a BJE, the President’s men were committing to an outcome that was not in their control. It was stupid for them to imagine that the BJE would slip through unnoticed. More to the point, the President’s men simply failed to anticipate a negative outcome, i.e., the BJE would be challenged and stopped. So, by saying yes, to the BJE, they were blindly rushing into a future where – when the Supreme Court invalidates the MOA for instance – they would have no choice but to say no to the BJE. And there you go, they said NO to the hostage taker.
This turn of events led the hostage taker – the bandits – to now feel backed into a corner. The only way out of that corner would have been a MOA for the BJE. But with no MOA forthcoming, and the additional insult of the ARMM elections being conducted, the bandits embraced the belief that there would be no other solution than to come out with their guns blazing. No solutions. War.
But using Occam’s razon, blogger Tongue In, Anew returns to the blogosphere and puts forward this thought-provoking analysis of the situation: it was all, and remains, simple, really. According to the blogger (who, while anonymous, has had very interesting entries in the past, suggesting an individual who is plugged-in), it’s all a charade:
Assperon’s appointment to the Peace portfolio was suspect way back… Not to mention the Ass was then joiningGen. Boogie Mendoza, a former Razon protege, and an “acclaimed anti-terrorist expert”…
On the other side of the fence, a separatist front of freedom fighters on Mondays, Abu Sayyaf kidnappers on Tuesdays, Jemaah Islamiya trainees on Wednesdays, lost command on Thursdays, devout Muslims on Fridays, and plain farmers and merchants on weekends. Overseen by their provisions suppliers from Malaysia.
Now what do we have? A highly volatile cocktail made up of an administration struggling for perpetual survival, high-profile GWOT freaks looking for an opportunity to expand their military control and a wayward army of bandits all of them intelligent enough to know that peace was doomed in the first place but insist that they might just be able to pull it through.
No, Gloria didn’t plan to dismember the country via the MOA-AD, she knows it’s unconstitutional, luckily, the legit opposition saw through her, she even had to use her allies to petition for a TRO which her SC appointees readily obliged to. She was expecting widespread retaliation but the MILF hierarchy surprisingly held back, her emergency rule cannot be imposed! No martial law, no chacha either. Doom! The Ass’ loyal generals immediately had to scramble for the “Lost Commanders” Kato and Bravo who have been burning villages left and right in the past yet no sincere effort to bring them to justice was ever taken (You now have an idea why Kabalu insists these commanders were not ordered by MILF to do so). They needed them to jump start this stage of the war to put Plan B into action. Funny but Eid Kabalu hasn’t announced an all-out offensive yet. Nor has Puno and Teodoro. Who wants to really finish the war after all? Even Misuari’s MNLF are now wearing their old uniforms to defend their own territory. Against whom? The gov’t? MILF? Or the Lost Command?
Gloria’s “Defend every inch of the territory” spiel was predictably looking for just the right moment to be announced so she blew her top after finding out her staff had not even prepared the teleprompter.
This view puts forward the possibility that the administration wanted to maneuver the country into a situation permitting a state of emergency, while others in the military hierarchy quite possibly, refrained from cooperating fully, and the MILF command declined to do the government any favors. Offering a reward, accompanied by statements that only individuals, and not the entire MILF movement, will be deemed outlaws, provides an opening for tensions to subside. And all the while, the jitters continue. Blogging from Iligan City, preMEDitated recounted, yesterday:
Panic struck the city center earlier this night. People flocked to the City Hall for protection by military forces stationed there. Text messages soon followed warning of imminent MILF attacks.
Much of the rest of the populace is now in anticipatory mood.
General Luna of the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) has issued his statement for the populace to remain calm and to trust in them. He has also appealed to the citizens not to forward these messages as they only bring more harm than good.PS I just heard this piece of news. It seems that this incident was sparked by a drunk who shouted,â€ÂM-I*.â€Â
*A word used around here for the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) terrorists.
See also My Life, also writing on Tuesday:
Early tonight many people got panic because of that rumors that there were sightings of MILF in Iligan City. My family and neighbors freak out because they said that MILF are already in the near barangay Abuno and a lot of jeepneys from the City went back when they reached Tubod Bridge, going to south because they said that MILF is on the way. Many people were on the city streets because they wanted to evacuate. And this is confirm as a false alarm by our city mayor Lawrence Lluch Cruz, that is was just the soldiers that was seen and they thought that they are MILF. He said that there are many soldiers around the city that some mistaken them as MILF already maybe its because of the happenings in Lanao del Norte. He just stated on a news break at ABS – CBN that Iligan City is still safe from MILF and asking those who left their homes to go back already. I hope all this conflict will stop soon.
From Dipolog City, jOnAviE’s Site writes (today),
M.I.L.F or Moro Islamic Liberation Front is on war against Arm Forces of Philippines..As a girl who lives Mindanao (a place where there are many Muslim, but I am not one of them) it’s usual to hear news that Mindanao was that, was this, but you know August 2008 War was the only war that makes my province Zamboanga del Norte and my City, Dipolog to be afraid… Afraid because the whole Mindanao was really involve, the MILF want all the regions in Mindanao to be included in MOA or ARMM (Autonomous Region in Muslim Mindanao) to expand their teritory… Everybody was really panicking.. Even in my city, we receive Bomb Treats and War Rumors, and what did we did..? We packed up our things then really really get ready for what would happen. Last night we sleep at 1 a.m. because of it..
Returning to Tongue in Anew’s suggestion that the Palace was operating on simple assumptions -that it’s hands would be tied by predictable behavior on the part of the opposition and the MILF, which didn’t pan out as the former was caught napping and the latter more subtle and cunning than expected.
So it strikes me as possible there was a clumsy effort to promote war jitters to try to get the country to rally around the President: because it explains why the Palace proved so tolerant of the demagoguery of Pinol, etc. who, considering the administration’s intolerance for dissent, could easily have been slapped down, taken aside, or simply bribed to pipe down at a delicate time when the administration was claiming to be seriously behind the RP-MILF agreement.
What complicates the situation is that the public, unaware of the plots-within-plots on both sides, or the factions that exist within the ranks of the leadership of both sides, or that the leaders either do not believe their own propaganda, or worse, believe it- has its passions inflamed by the increasingly martial rhetoric of leaders who know the game of posturing quite well and who can therefore discount it.
Certainly this seems too quick a surrender: MOA deal off, SolGen tells high tribunal.
And it may be that this time, the MILF leadership, beholden to Malaysia, etc., is being more responsible and trying to defuse the situation while saber-rattling, than the government: we forget that the MILF command had a choice to fully endorse the attacks but it did not, equivocating its official response might have been (but even equivocation is understandable in terms of the factional dynamics of any revolutionary organization). And other groups are trying to restore the momentum to reestablish at least the semblance of a brittle peace.
At the heart of these efforts are three simple ideas:
1. That if one side will insist that it is negotiating sincerely for peace, there must be a corresponding assumption the other side is also negotiating sincerely. That furthermore, national interests aside, it is in the regional interest of foreign countries to help foster peace in Mindanao.
2. That all lose when fighting resumes and all sides gain so long as discussions are ongoing, which provides a venue for differences to be threshed out, compromises arrived at, and a consensus reached.
3. That both sides have extremists who not only do not represent the majority view, but who have also figured out how their constituencies can be agitated by withholding information and an overall lack of confidence in the authorities.
As Earthly Explorations puts it (who is not for a separate Moro homeland),
The government is trying to make it appear as it was the Moro rebels fault that they hit the first strike but if you hear other sources especially the locals they were just protecting their properties. Who was taking what from whom? Or someone is maneuvering into something to make it appear as a religious war diverting the people’s attention?
Mon Casiple warned of the administration “playing the emergency card”:
The scenario is one where a justification for a state of emergency happens. Violent incidents increasingly happen and spread. The AFP is increasingly forced to defend towns and villages. The MILF, in turn, increasingly turn to its own offensives in order to defend Moro communities. In no time at all, we are into a deepened conflict until the military is convinced to agree to a declaration of a state of emergency.
For a national state of emergency to happen, there has to be demonstrated to exist a credible threat to the national seat of power in the National Capital Region, a nationwide state of war or terror, or attacks on national political leaders. The level of the resurgent conflict in Mindanao–even if it spreads to other areas in Mindanao–cannot yet justify this drastic option.
However, the next days or weeks bear watching because of the political scenario of charter change that requires neutralizing the opposition and terrorizing the people. With the recent show of widespread opposition to Malacañang’s charter change plans, only the emergency card is left to play.
Let us hope that desperate people do not cross the line of sanity.
Beyond hoping, this is a time to add your voice, not in endorsement of one particular proposal or another, but to voices opposed to conflict. Charo Logarta, a military wife, puts it this way:
Whatever it is, there’s gotta be a better option to this. The majority must be allowed peace and harmony. We have to end decades of strife and conflict. We, the majority, deserve better. Military wives and kids do not have to endure loss. Soldiers don’t have to die for causes that don’t even matter to many average Filipinos who simply want a better life.
Just think how optimistic most people were in Mindanao a year ago. And how, now, plans involving Mindanao are all on hold. See Stacy Nelson.
Hi, Manolo:
Thanks for the link. I’m actually based in Davao now. Closer to where the action is
For a little more positive news, you might want to look at http://nanaynirashid.blogspot.com/social%20work,%20pikit. Up-close pictures of Pikit.
Nothing says gay more than that teddy bear you have on your table prop on the Explainer show Manolo.
But we all already know you’re homo, so may I suggest you get rid of it?
Your efforts to appear to run a professional television program (suit, LCD display, use of English, great script) is marred by a prop that his its place on a little girl’s bedroom.
obviously our friend here is kinda off topic. nothing says hateful and homophobic more than your comment, pampangueno. the topic of the discussion here is MOA and the MILF question. take your homophobia and hate elsewhere.
I’ve been thinking about this BJE business. You can take it another way and call the Prez a patriot. With the pressure from the US and other countries to give the Moros a state, she did the right thing and allowed a showing of true colors over at the Moro side. Now all we have to do is keep Mindanao in tact. Let’s not drop the ball.
Teedy bear. I guess, Manolo is only anticipating the release of Brideshead Revisited. My guess.
Can you explain to me how’s that homophobic and hateful you idiot?
It’s homophobic because it’s well-known that teddy bears are the accessory du juour of gay intellectuals and hateful because you had to mention it.
Because if you can’t, may I counter that you take your idiocy elsewhere.
What we need is a military solution. You need to disarms the MILF, coz I for one do not believe the army or even the ilagas will kill helpless unarmed civilians. Give more money to Mindanao, not to the pols, but directly thru infrastructure work. Only the moros think of genocide, not government and not Christians. If we think this then matagal nang walang Moro, eh mga minority sila eh.
the teddy bear is a peace mascot.
John, that’s a Panda.
If Arroyo really believed in this MOA, she should have defended it more forcefully against all critics, including her Christian allies, and not wimp out.
even if it costs her her job.
oh, the kung fu panda? i’m not a regular watcher of the explaner show since we don’t have sky/home. i saw only the recent one because of djb. is the plushie a regular part of the show?
Whatever the taxonomy of the freakin’ stuffed toy, I think you’ll all agree that it’s something that would be more at home on Boy Abunda’s The Buuuzzz!!, not The Explainer.
On a slightly related note, do you Manolo have a feel for what the peeps in your community think about the possible implications of extremist Islamization to the gay community in Mindanao? (Blogs or links to gay bloggers in Mindanao would be appreciated). After all, the first casualty of Islamization is the abuse, physical and mental, of homos of both the gay and lesbian persuasion.
Contrary to popular notion, Christians won’t get abused by any possible Islamic government, as they are the “brothers of the book” as per Islamic teachings (they’ll get taxed though). But gays don’t get a pass, and as a libertarian, I am concerned about the human rights of Filipinos of all sexual persuasions.
Hello Manolo! Thanks for quoting me up.
Anyway, I have some change of sentiments with the recent developments…I’m still very unsettled and disturbed on what happened to Iligan and Lanao del Norte yesterday and last night…People are in panic.
Seems that the very fabric of harmony: trust, has been breached. It would take a long time for the peoples to trust each other once more…this is just my opinion.
I’m still hoping and praying for peace to prevail in Mindanao.
Why the fuss about GMA being mataray, apparently she is wearing Golfing outfit. You too would blow your top if the alalays are too slow, you don’t want to miss your tee off with Abalos….
Teddy Bears unprofessional??? Hmmm, I have two (but they are dogs) and they have been around. Jane Godall has one (a monkey which stays in front during every lecture)
..obviously pampangeno cares more about looks than substance…are you part of the central committee who said the 6-year old girl singer was too ugly to be the face of the olympics?
All the more, the MOA has to be opened up for continued discussion. The MILF has to clarify what they mean when one of their spokesperson (in their luwaran website) claims
I1) that the MILF speaks for the Moros who :
(2) but also do not want their powers and
And while the Supreme Court’s TRO may have embarassed Malacanang, the delays from the TRO has revealed the ineptitude of the pro-JBE Muslim leadership to control their military units as well as reveal how the said leadership perceives of their responsibility to the 1987 Constitution.
@ Pampangueno,
Feeling ko inggit lang yang namamayani sayo. Gusto mo din ng sariling show, ano? Eh kaso siguro swangit ka at hindi pang TV, ganun. Kaya dinadaan mo nalng sa pagcomment anonymously. What a coward. Pakilala ka kaya ng maayos if you really feel that you have a point.
I LOVE CRITICS ! ! !
“I AM BECAUSE WE AREâ€Â, – Desmond Tutu (famous Archbishop from Cape Town, South Africa). Translation: “I am corrupt, because we are corruptâ€Â.
“Or we deserve the kind of government we haveâ€Â. We keep pointing our fingers to our leaders about all our misery, but if we examine ourselves, we will find out that we have contributed to the mess we are in.
As I always say: “What would you do if you were the president to address our problem?â€Â
We love to spin punditry and criticism against our leaders and they deserve our criticisms, but do we have some solutions to offer?
If we don’t have any, then GMA might feel like the writer in Christopher Hampton who said:
“Asking a working writer what he thinks about critics is like asking a lamp-post how it feels about dogsâ€Â.
Charles de Gaulle was practically installed by the French military hardliners who wanted to hold on to Algeria at all costs, believing that the former would be more determined to pursue the war. However, de Gaulle himself saw that the French campaign in Algeria was ultimately futile:
In the end, it was de Gaulle himself who sidelined the French military diehards and withdrew from Algeria.
As i commented before, peace under a unified State would depend on whether the people comprising the Bangsa Moro areas buy into the idea that they are also Filipinos.
Pampangueno,
You write: “Contrary to popular notion, Christians won’t get abused by any possible Islamic government, as they are the “brothers of the book†as per Islamic teachings (they’ll get taxed though).
Not too fast Pampangueno. You assumed wrongly that all muslims live by the Koran code. Look around you, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Bin Ladin, Abbu Sayyaf.
They kill people if you spouse a religion other than theirs. And you expect your Philippine muslims to respect the Christians?
Wake up sir or Madam! ! !
Pampangueno,
That distracting stuffed toy on Manolo’s table is actually the Philippine Daily Inquirer editorial mascot. The reason it’s there is because the PDI with whom Manolo has an employment contract wants it there.
Now when you start seeing gay symbols and other signs of gayness in mascots where there are actually none, it makes me wonder whether you are obsessed with gays and why.
Are you?
Pampangueno,
Maybe the PDI is a gay paper for picking such a mascot?
Pampangueno,
Do you groove to Cher while playing with your barbies?
Is “Strangers in the Night” a song about casual gay encounters?
Hello sire
Thanks for the link.
I was actually surprised with the homophobia out there. He might have landed on a wrong entry! Hop to mine! joke
Moving forward, i remember GMA bragging about the MOA on ancestral domain in her lastest SONA. Am sure her world turned upside down with the remarks she got from it!
Mindanao is a beautiful land. Not because I am from mindanao but because my eyes are naturally gifted at seeing natural beauty!
I strongly believe that annihilating these bandits is a very potential ang most noble action to achieve peace in mindanao ang not an agreement that would pamper them to ask for more through threat an intimidation! They didn’t pay tax yet they want to establish their own homeland out of the well establish island!
I know its sound barbaric and inhuman but they deserve and all out war!
cvj,
“As i commented before, peace under a unified State would depend on whether the people comprising the Bangsa Moro areas buy into the idea that they are also Filipinos.”
What I’d like to know is who those people comprising the Bangsa Moro consider as their true representatives – the MNLF? The MILF? Their local elected officials?
Is the shared religion of the Moros strong enough to surmount their tribal and political differences and loyalties?
Will the MNLF and the MILF be able to agree on how to divide up Moroland between them?
Will Maranaos allow a Tausog to run the affairs of Maguindanao and Lanao and will Tausogs allow a Maranao to run Sulu and Tawi-Tawi?
last na to… hehehhe
bka may madugong homo experience yang si pampangueno. share mo naman sa blog ko! heheheh
MB (at 10:04 pm), if the Mindanao Christians form militias based on their ‘Christian’ (or non-Muslim) identity, then the Muslim identity will be forced to assert itself and override other identities based on ethnolinguistic-affiliation, at least for the duration of the conflict.
cvj,
Muslims are already aligned. But come to think of it, they do not have that many fighters.
wow:
This will change everythign, I hope.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/regions/view/20080820-155857/31-Moro-rebels-surrender-says-Army-brigade-commander
They should do this more often.
di kaya muslim extremist si pampangueno? so we will stop the speculation, pakilala ka. oh and by the way, if manolo hasn’t thanked you yet, your homophobia, hatred or whatever it is that you call it is generating wonderful hits for the website. thank you. your hate has done something good after all.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/regions/view/20080820-155852/MILF-commander-declares-all-out-war
“We are prepared to trade fire with them until we are decimated. If they cannot finish us, we will finish them,” Bravo said over the Radio Mindanao Network. “We are prepared to kill, we are prepared to be killed.”
Decimated (a tenth killed) is an often misused word. He means annihilated of course.
BrianB, maybe that WAS what he meant, lol.
cvj,
To a certain extent what you say is true. And theoretically it makes sense. External threats have a way of uniting people.
However, you do see muslims all over the world at each other’s throats over politics and religious factions. Hamas vs Hezbollah, Sunni vs Shiite, Talibans vs moderates etc.
You also see muslim countries at war with each other like Iran-Iraq, Iraq-Kuwait. Iraqi muslims war among themselves despite the need to unify against american occupation. Saudis, Kuwaitis, Pakistanis provide basing and support for american and coalition forces who are occupying muslim Iraq and afghanistan.
Will armed christians and/or lumads threatening maranaos in mainland Mindanao motivate Tausogs to send an expeditionary force to maguindanao and lanao?
I thought the teddy bear on the Explainer show is related to the bookstore ad that always appear on the show.
decimation leads to annihilation. That makes bravo a prophet.
Supremo,
“I thought the teddy bear on the Explainer show is related to the bookstore ad that always appear on the show.”
It’s not a teddy bear. It’s supposed to be that carabao in the PDI editorial cartoons.
MB (at 11:09 pm), that’s a question i’m hoping we don’t have to find out the answer to. As i mentioned in my blog, i’m against militias. I’m hoping that the situation you present i.e. armed christians and/or lumads threatening the Maranaos will not happen although as per grd in the previous thread, it already is.
Good grief…. just 2 weeks on well spent vacation and the world changed in the other part of the world (gergian war), bejing olympics is ending and the milf moa-ad continue its momentum.
When the brilliant Marcos had the mighty military power at its disposal and the moros considered weak, it never wiped out the minority muslim rebellion. This is just to illustrate that history is on the side of the muslim in worst case scenario, not to mention that it has grown in size since Marcos time and undeterred even with US forces aiding the Philippine military at the backdoor.
As I said before, SC tro is useless and proven that Manila has no power to demonstrate it can enforce its will, if ever it has. It is pathetic enough to watch that the central govt is reduced to name calling “bandits” and the 5 million reward scheme for the 2 milf commander.
Unless SC and Senate pave the way for state under state, then it will make harder for the Mindanao Christians – which the moros don’t care anyway as they have been living miserably for decades.
mb,
It’s either my eyes are really bad or that carabao looks like a teddy bear.
dOdOng,
‘not to mention that it has grown in size since Marcos time’
Take note that the Muslim population in Mindanao also grew since the time of Marcos. If you go by percentage of Muslim population, I think the MILF did not really gain anything.
supremo,
Your eyes are good. Manolo explained it to me. He couldn’t find a stuffed toy that looks like a carabao so that’s what he’s using.
cvj,
I don’t like militias either. And like you I don’t want the answer to my question to go beyond the theoretical.
“I think the MILF did not really gain anything.”
As a matter of fact, they do – GRP initialed MOA-AD. Plus international monitors including US would be the witness of the aborted signing formality in Malaysia. It demonstrate the gains so far achieved by the MILF.
ano ba ang percentage ng muslim sa mindanao ngayon?
sabi sa wikipedia
63% raw kristiyano. 32% Muslim, 5% lumad
pero sabi dati sa 2000 census, 20.4% lang raw ang muslim.
does anybody have the latest data from the 2007 census?
“does anybody have the latest data from the 2007 census?”
Those numbers don’t mean anything. In addition, census can be understated as the muslim will not go through the normal local government channels.
The total Islamized population of Mindanao
was estimated at 39.29 percent in 1903; but only 20.17 percent in 1975. The total Lumad population
was 22.11 percent in 1903; and only 6.86 percent in 1975…
Muslims, or as they call themselves the Moro or Bangasamoro (“Moro nationâ€Â), are made up
of 13 ethno-linguistic groups, including the Iranun, Jama Mapun, Palawani, Molbog, Kalagan,
Kalibugan, Maguindanao, Maranao, Sama, Sangil, Tausug, Badjao, and Yakan.
Today, Rodil estimates they comprise about 20 percent of the total Mindanao and Sulu population.
The Lumad, a generic term for the non-Muslim and non-Christian tribal groups, or “cultural
communities†in Mindanao, are also very diverse. They consist of the various ethno-linguistic groups
that are not Muslim, e.g., the Ata, Bagobo, Mamanua, Mandaya, Kamayo, Mangguwangan, Manobo,
Mansaka, Matigsalog, Subanun, Tagakaolo, Tala-andig, T’boli, Tiruray and Ubo. Many of these
groups are Christianized or partly Christianized, and some are partly Islamicized. Moreover, there is
some overlap, such as the highland Christianized Maranao. These ethnic groups make up
approximately five percent of the total Mindanao population, according to the 1990 census.
source:
209.85.141.104/search?q=cache:aqavVwI3OiAJ:www.cseas.niu.edu/outreach/mindanaopeace.pdf+muslim+percentage+mindanao+christian+lumad&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=ph
“Those numbers don’t mean anything.”
i think it does.
it is like the sunnis in iraq under saddam, who comprise about 20%, trying to rule over the shiite 60% majority, and the kurds 20% by force and violence
hmm, i wonder if pampangueno’s part of the plot to draw us away from the real issue at hand by baiting us into this whole carabao business….
since the whole MILF-going-to-war scenario isn’t panning out, will the admin take it to the next level? would they go through bombings throughout the metro so that the empress will declare martial law?
dOdOng,
‘As a matter of fact, they do..’
They did not grow in size with respect to the size of the Muslim population is my point. You’re the one who started this ‘MILF grew in size’ so stick to it. And if numbers don’t mean anything then why did you say that the ‘MILF grew size’.
In the preceding thread, a commenter mentioned that has it been FPJ who is president now, the country will not have these hostilities in Mindanao as “Muslims do listen to da King.”
However, Panday’s kumpadre ex-president Joseph Estrada ordered full military action against the MILF and Philippine troops overran two MILF camps including the big one, Camp Abubakr.
Erap is again calling for an all-out war. Today, he assumed the presidency of the Partido Masang Pilipino hoping for a political comeback or at least, be a big factor in the next presidential elections.
Erap could well be the Last Action Hero or Da King Maker.
“And if numbers don’t mean anything then why did you say that the ‘MILF grew size.”
Because in the ground, the military estimate its enemies strength and commit a greater force.
I said it doesn’t mean anything because at the end of the show of force, MILF was able to win the GRP to initialed its own MOA-AD.
Ahead of the survey results, most Filipinos want tougher action against the MILF. There’s goes the MOA-AD. Expect a re-calibration of the positions of the presidential wannabees: people want to see a tougher stance.
So people maybe listening to Erap’s call.
dOdOng,
Then why did the MILF allow itself to grow in size(which I think is false as a percentage of Muslim population) if it will have it’s way anyway?
psi, there’s nothing wrong with the government exploring every avenue of peace to save lives. the “hawks” maybe having their day because of the evident insincerity and perfidy of the rebels, and the validation of what most suspect – the separatists desire to have their cake and eat it too.
as to erap’s rather simplistic solution, he was treating the problem like one of his b-action movies. at the time of his presidency, up until the recent rampages in kolambugan, etc., i don’t believe the filipino nation was ready for a decisive “all-out war” that would have left not a vestige of armed resistance in the area, let alone a much-dreaded “ethnic cleansing”.
Actually, they did not expect GRP to give them what they wanted and in fact the Malaysian observers pulled out because of no GRP solution in sight. Ibrahim Canana as posted by MLQ above articulated that it will continue to fight for its homeland as its ancestors did. Hence, number is irrelevant as long as there is one single Muslim who wanted his homeland. Either you recognize co-existence and provide his homeland under MOA-AD or you just kill him and his families – a military solution that have been proven wrong.
it’s just you talking dodong. the milf is close to being tagged as bandits now. commander bravo and kato exposed the weakness of the milf leadership. if they cannot control their own people now without the official signing of MO-AD, how much more if they got the deal signed and approved by the people. they would start grabbing people’s lands and shoot those who will oppose them. but now that their true colors were exposed, they will find it hard to get that chance again. they simply blew it.
with regard to your belief that the SC tro is useless and Manila is powerless, well, you are so wrong abut it. the SC will declare the deal as unconstitutional and the GRP will comply as they already indicated. and contrary to what you’ve earlier wrote in another thread that the military will not defend those areas that are being attacked by the milf, you were proven wrong once again.
Good point of Bencard on ethnic cleansing. GRP has a lot to lose when both sides start ethnic cleansing.
“if they cannot control their own people now without the official signing of MO-AD”
It is calibrated. Given the MILF position, I will deny atrocities while support ground operations.
The weakling rather is of the government who cannot do anything with MILF and thrown into a weak position of name calling bandits and nothing beyond that, like sending force to seach and destroy the bandits in the MILF zone. So weak it can only entice with the candy of 5 million.
grd,
In the previous thread, you mentioned about the possibile revival of the ‘Ilagas’, the Christian militia group. I remember that in the same peiod, the Muslims responded with the ‘Blackshirts’ (?).
I could easily Google this, but my question to you as a long-time resident of Mindanao ( particularly Davao?), is there a connection between the MILF and the Blackshirts?
Salamat in advance.
dodong,
What is this? (I could have use wtf? in capital letters). Thought you said you were proud of being a poor boy in Mindanao, challenged, did your best, working-student, rose up, migrated to the U.S., rose to your present position, etc.
Now, you’re sounding what is termed in this blog as ‘victimology’.
“with regard to your belief that the SC tro is useless and Manila is powerless, well, you are so wrong abut it”
I repeat again, SC tro is useless and Manila powerless. In fact, ex senator Maceda, Binay and Pimentel decried that some “commitments” of the MOA-AD are already operative despite the SC tro.
“you’re sounding what is termed in this blog as ‘victimology’”
you are entitled to your opinion but i also recognize the inherent right of my muslim friends to co-exist.
Except probably for some of Pampagueno’s comments, did you see, hear, or read anyhting we said against your Muslim friends, and we referred to as brothers?
Common, you have to admit that Filipinos know its not the Muslim people that the is problem, its the MILF.
mga klasmeyt, tinakot niyo naman si pampangueno…
hindi niya yata alam na ang colonel in chief ng norwegian guards ay isang penguin, si nils olav II, who was recently knighted
…hmmm, maybe nils is homo too and should have been a dame…how unprofessional naman for the Norwegian Armed Forces to have a mascot.
I wonder who the MILF’s mascot should be?
I just came back from a vacation marred by violence in Mindanao. In fact, I was pretty close to those encounters initiated by that guy Commander Bravo, whose men went on a rampage killing Christians (together with soldiers), torching their houses, shooting their farm animals and livestocks, and looting stores owned by those poor Christians who have nothing to do whatsoever with the so-called Mindanao problem mentioned by Ibrahim Canana.
The resort to lawlessness was no doubt prompted by the SC TRO, while Bravo and his likes try to apply pressure to the govt to give in and sign the MOA. This is my reading of the recent violence.
For those who are unfamiliar with this Mindanao trouble, it was the same Bravo who inflamed the Mindanao war in 2000, 2001 and 2003 that led to massive destruction there and loss of lives for both Muslims and Christians. While I sympathize with the Moros for their right to self-rule and claim to their ancestral land, I don’t think people will go with them if they use violent means to get what they want.
I believe talking is still the best option rather than shooting each other, as Bravo and his command propose. Forcing the issue of independence will only invite more violence, which Mr. Canana may probably realize. But I agree with him, dealing with the govt run by weak officials (or by those who claim to power is suspect) is gonna be a big problem not only now but also in the future.
This is a reality check that cool heads must always take rather than allow guns do the talking.
‘I wonder who the MILF’s mascot should be?’
Something short with a mole on the face.
psi,
not a longtime resident of mindanao. yes, i live in davao but it was peace time already when i moved there. my recolection about ilagas and blackshirts/baraccuda tales from old folks is that these militias were formed by warring muslim and christian politcians and logging companies to counter each other.
i don’t think the black shirts/baraccudas (even led by gov ali dimaporo) has connection with the milf. they could have joined the mnlf later on when the fighting errupted between the govt and mnlf..
so the military weakened from year 2000 to 2008?
oh yeah, i believe them.
I agree with grd … That commander bravo and kato exposed the weakness of the milf leadership…. …. cannot control their own people…. and kato’s version of throwing a tantrum is village-burning, geography-cleansing, and murdering a two-year old girl to demonstrate their macho.
to d0d0ng: how would justify the murder of the two-year-old girl? because she was standing on ancestral domain?
The anger of President Arroyo is understandable. Her billions of special funds that would fund her extended term ambitions is now going to the drain. She ordered several army divisions from Luzon flown into Mindanao as she has to deal with massive refugee problems.
In Estrada’s all out war in April 2000, the gov’t spent 1.8 billion in 3 months in direct cost, not including humanitarian cost, infrastructure and economic losses with 2 million people displaced.
It was estimated that 270 billions had been spent for the last 27 years in Mindanao conflict. That cost would spike with renewed hostilities in the south.
“how would justify the murder of the two-year-old girl? because she was standing on ancestral domain?”
in the same way, atomic bombs are unjustifiable to kill millions…. but that is the way of conflict…. there is no difference if you one child or millions of japanese becomes collateral damage.
d0d0ng: are you saying that the killing of the 2-year old is justifiable? Do you applaud the MILF commander responsible?
dOdOng,
‘there is no difference if you one child or millions of japanese becomes collateral damage’
The pilot of the Enola Gay dropped the the bomb on the enemy’s territory. The MILF goon killed an innocent unarmed child. Do you understand the difference?
“are you saying that the killing of the 2-year old is justifiable? Do you applaud the MILF commander responsible?”
“The pilot of the Enola Gay dropped the the bomb on the enemy’s territory. The MILF goon killed an innocent unarmed child. ”
In war, the process varies but the aim is one and the same and deliver the message – we are ready to kill (innocent child or not) and be killed. War is always the last resort but it is a drawing board for peace.
MILF has the momentum. It initiated a mini-war with its 2 commanders to provoke military response that will inflict larger disaster and draw international response which will can exert pressure on SC and Senators in comatose. So far, Manila is doing selective bomb droppings, hardly the MILF wanted but still enough just as Central government is going to bleed economically.
Jove Francisco ended his piece with
“Lastly, we are not being arrogant and we are not saying we have all the right to cover everything and anything under the sun, but what happened inside the halls of the NEB, happened right before our eyes and we can’t just close our eyes and pretend it didn’t happen.
Because it did.”
I wanted to tell him “True, but do you have to report it? You don’t have to pretend it didn’t happen. But must you report it? Upload it to Youtube? You yourself admitted that you dont ‘have all the right to cover everything and anything under the sun..’ .”
Sabi nga ni Erap “Kayo nga ang mag-presidente”
(Why do I keep forgetting that:
a. there’s no such thing as a “detached-observer-journalist”
b. a journalist is more of a person who has to say something than a person who has something to say
c. the constitutional freedom of expression is the most cherished right of Pinoys, and the heck with self-restraint (especially if the topic is the most ‘popular’ president of all time) )
Manolo,
with all due respect…
sorry to say… the content of all the links added in your recent blog is lacking substance. it doesn’t show passion, no opinion of solution but an opinion to create more division among our people. It is no longer educational.
The lack of civic duty and social responsibility in blogging will result to hatred and personal attack.
Professional Political blogging is neither an anti Gloria or Pro Gloria. The hope to educate and inspire thinking people to get involved in the events taking place around us is the most important.
Informing hungry people about Gloria’s temper on TV or other types of media will not result to peace…but actually adding more miseries to the very poor.
The risk of continued “rocking the boat” to sink to the bottom is now obvious.
The MILF is plain and simple a rebel group. Islam is never a factor. What they’re doing is a disgrace to Islam.
Tama si Erap – all out war na dapat. Too bad gloria didnt follow through what Erap was working on
Maybe we are witnessing one unfortunate consequence of a sacred book that is available only in Arabic. Non-arabic readers are at the mercy of those who claim to read Arabic. No can can test the teaching and/or interpretation of those who can read in Arabic.
There should be a translation of the Koran into the native dialects of Muslim Pinoys.
Jove’s Francisco is just an ordinary reporter. Nothing extraordinary… tsimis lang ang alam..
Ordinary to me is lacking experience due to immaturity of knowing what’s quality reporting.
I admire him for making me react to his blog but that’s all there is to it. It’s not educational to many especially the youth. Raise the bar for god sake and be a role model in your profession.
leytenian,
it seems you’re singing a different tune now……….
On reality check issue:
Clearly, most of Moro ancestral domain can no longer be restored. What forms of compensation can be offered instead of land? Compensation does not necessarily mean cash.
When do people recognize that violence is not accomplishing their goals? How can the government, Moros, and Christians in Mindanao be persuaded to do the right thing and fundamentally alter the narrative of Mindanao and of Moros in the Philippines?
What is at stake is not short-term interests, but the future of Moro and Christian children and the international reputation of Philippine government and society.
Solution: create a new generation with as little bias as possible. If this effort succeeds, the Moros will no longer feel like “strangers in their own homeland.” A transformed, stable, and prosperous Mindanao for all groups living in it can become reality.
Long term strategic solution has been implemented. Let’s be positive here.
Peace education to be included in public school curriculum: THURSDAY, JULY 24, 2008 | EDUCATION
http://www.gov.ph/news/?i=21625
The USAID basic education objective is focused on Mindanao, specifically the Autonomous
Region in Muslim Mindanao (ARMM) and neighboring conflict affected areas where educational quality is
exceptionally poor. It aims to improve access to quality education and provide livelihood skills for out-ofschool
youth by establishing community learning centers with flexible learning options.
http://www.usaid.gov/policy/budget/cbj2006/ane/pdf/ph492-011.pdf
Dodong,
Recognition of co-existence does not necessarily mean allowing the institutionalization of a class division.
If you were able to watch Manolo’s episode last week; much of his Muslim audience wanted to institutionalize a class division.
leyteniean:
“Manolo,
with all due respect…
sorry to say… the content of all the links added in your recent blog is lacking substance. it doesn’t show passion, no opinion of solution but an opinion to create more division among our people. It is no longer educational. ”
Instead of lecturing us what an educational, “professional politcal blog” should be, why not make one yourself and educate us with these revolutionary ideas you think you can share?
Eureka, “creating a new generation with little bias” is the novel solution! So while a kid gets peace-educated, we should also brainwash him to pay no attention to his father who happens to be Eid Kabalu, or Ombra Kato, or any one among their thousands of followers, right?
That would be a good entry for your first blog post.
anthony,
I agree, Islam is never a factor. But the opposite is what their propaganda declares. If they (MILF) really read their Koran, why then would they kill women and children including those of their own, not to forget even animals and trees! And I’ve heard it a million times – Koran is a religion of peace. Sure. But I don’t even know if there’s a Christian equivalent for “jihad”.
tongue,
sorry tongue, I value education more than anything. the youth is the hope of our country. it’s their foundation…
for me blogging… I don’t need to. The long term solution has been implemented.
here’s the positive side of mindanao. the ripple effect of these investments will connect to my comment: “compensation does not necessarily mean cash..”
add the peace education for the youth and USaids but actually there’s more project for mindanao that most people are not aware.
here’s a positive news…
“MINDANAO investment generation kicked off strongly this year on a total of P3.1 billion worth of Board of Investment (BOI)-registered investments recorded for the first quarter, surpassing the P747-million mark during the same period last year. ”
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/zam/2008/07/24/bus/mindanao.1st.quarter.investments.reach.p3.1.b.html
for short term solution, the real men in this blog already have shared their solutions. some say, kill them all… some say… bomb the caves, some say… set up a US military base, some say, all out war….
for me…. i will leave it up to our MACHO military men …. let’s see if they are capable of implementing and negotiating peace… what’s their use anyway?
the plush toy is the inquirer mascot, goyito, the carabao.
Leytenian,
maybe you are confusing passion with some other word, because
they do show passion.
so that peace education foundation is in florida,huh.
have you attended in any symposia or work shops?
so foreign assistance has been growing.
http://www.mofa.go.jp/policy/un/pko/symposium0803/zainudin-malang.pdf.
“There is now a growing recognition especially from the international community,
of the important role that CSOs play in societal reconstruction.â€Â
JICA, for instance, have directly engaged the Bangsamoro Development Agency which was established
by agreement by both the Government of the Republic of the Philippines and the Moro Islamic Liberation
Front. They have also directly funded Moro NGOs. Previously, funding and assistance to communities
passed through institutions where Moros did not have an effective voice. Other agencies have also
followed suit. CIDA and USAID, have also undertaken a pro-active hiring of technocrats and
professionals from the Moro communities to occupy key responsible positions in their programs. Even
Asia Foundation, whose country chief is one of the presenters in the earlier sessions have adopted such
an approach.
The second positive development I have noticed is that those who are active in providing peace and
development aid are increasingly recognizing the fact that their economic interventions cannot be
divorced from the larger peace process. For instance, there was a concerted effort among all the aid
agencies last year to exert firm pressure on the government not to launch an all-out military offensive in
the areas where they have projects, in recognition of the fact that no peace and development assistance
can possibly succeed where there is widespread fighting. The peace process in Mindanao has a history
of 3 decades. That period was marked by frustration and false expectations. It is only recently when the
international community has taken a more direct and active participation that the peace process has
achieved substantial gains towards a sustainable resolution of the conflict. I am pleased to mention here
that Japan is one of those countries that have made substantial contributions to the peace process in
Mindanao. Let us hope the international community not only sustain but intensify its contribution to the
peace process.
for any civil war talk let me interest you with a six to seven year column of my dad:
Civil war talk
Plaridel C. Garcia
We are already a nation at war in a world at war. Since the end of the Cold War ten years ago, the world had more than 100 wars mostly intrastate. We have 3 of them, pre-dating even WWII and promising to last forever There is no active communist insurgency in the world except the Philippines and Nepal. There is hardly any Islamic separatist insurgency in the world aside from the Philippines except Indian Kashmir.
Communist insurgency did not die here as a piece dividend of the fall of Soviet Russia and the modernization of China. Ideological revisions and organizational defections even resorted in effective ambuscades of government troops by the NPA in Luzon, Visayas and Mindanao. Its front organizations became even more effective with the democratic space that include more than equal time and space in the media and open parliamentary options. They extort for support and that is “revolutionary taxationâ€Â. The New Peoples Army roam the mountains and reportedly even Cavite and that is not “militarizationâ€Â. We are talking peace with them in a foreign country when it is not interrupted by assassinations of political leaders and charges of government violators of the peace talk terms. Jose Maria Sison spoke of protracted struggle even for a hundred years.
Mindanao separatist movements were older by centuries under Spain and America. It was energized by the Jabidah massacre, the resurgence of Islamic fundamentalism, the incorrigible excesses of Muslim and Christian leaders, and the protracted poverty. The military and the police may have their contributions to the crisis but they are the ones getting massacred by the dozens together with the innocent civilians. We managed to talk peace with the MNLF and failed with Misuari. We waged a “total war†with the MILF and overrun their “camps†but the armed formations are still talking peace when not interrupted by war incidents. In the family tree are the Abu Sayaf and Pentagon Kidnap Gangs that are on active notice by the world especially by the US/Bush administration.
Perhaps because we could not effectively agree on what to do with our armed conflicts and the rest of our “permanent wars†that we seem to be romancing a civil war. No less than the President said that at EDSA 2 the “tailspin towards civil war was avertedâ€Â. A tailspin is the rapid descent of an airplane nose down with tail in a spiral. At so-called EDSA 3, the “state of rebellion†is said to be by the “unwashedâ€Â. It was then a tailspin with the nose covered. The poor don’t a civil war make. Poverty was an essential condition but not sufficient. Neither is national disunity, disunities if you please. An effective division of the house, a civil war make. As Huntington said about revolutions, our problem is not an imminent civil war, but the capacity to wage one. The three most notable examples of a civil war may convince us that we do not belong to the league.
The American civil war was “the last war of gentlemenâ€Â. Ironically it was characterized by civility in its political leaders and sense of honor in its military.
The English civil war was between the monarchists and the parliamentarians. The cavalry of Cromwell praised the Lord and passed the ammunition. The cavaliers of Charles I praised the king and made passes on ladies of the court.
The Spanish civil war was between the Republicans and the Nationalists. The former included socialists, communists, Basque regionalists and anarchists. The latter included conservative Catholics and fascist Falangistas. The military was divided and General Franco won.
If we are not united behind our government in resolving our raging wars, those making war against it are not united either. That is why the outcome are not decisive either way. Too many fences make too many fence-sitters and too many walls provide targets to piss against.
Civil war soon or in the near future? Tell it to the Marines with a mouth shut wide!
Lastly a recent reasearch on the Lumads:
(unedited so ipra was mispelled as ipira)
Lumads in the ARMM/Expanded ARRM: The ancestors of the domain
Amidst the political noise and whispers on the so-called Memorandum of Agreement (MOA) between GRP and MILF, a silence on the plight of the Lumads is deafening.
But there are Lumads in ARRM, particularly Maguindanao and Shariff Kabunsuan, that is home to three related etnic groups, namely the Teduray, the Dulangan Manobo, and the Lambangian Manobo. Given the possible expansion of the ARRM territory as rumored in the said MOA, there are also the Subanen in the Zamboanga Peninsula, the Higaunon on Iligan, Blaan and Tboli in the Cotabato area, and other tribes in Palawan.
For the uninitiated, “Lumad†is the Cebuano word for native or indigenous. Its equivalent in Tagalog is ‘Katutuboâ€Â. As such, they are the grand ancestors of the national domain.
The non-Muslim communities, at least representatives from 15 out of 18 major tribes in Mindanao, started using Lumad in 1986, as “their self-ascribed collective name as an integral part of their assertion of their right to self-determination’. (Rodil)
The history of their marginalization by colonial policy and later by government-sponsored resettlement or immigration in Mindanao was the same story among the minority groups in the rest of the Philippines where minority groups existed. (Horaldo) The great difference with other minority groups was that the Lumads were peace-loving people and did not resort to arms and violence in response to violence imposed on them.
Fast forward. From a history of marginalization ostensibly to hasten the assimilation or amalgamation of the non-Christians into the mainstream Filipino (which happen to be Christian) community, “special provinces†were formed rather than institutions to recognize the distinct cultural identity. In 1987, however, the Commission of National Integration (CNI) and the non-Christian groups were formally called National Cultural Minorities..
The operative term in government policy was national integration and continued to be so until 1971 for the Moros (through the Tripoli agreement) and 1987 for the Indigenous Peoples (IP) through the 1987 Constitution.
The 1987 Constitution seeks to recognize, promote, and protect the four basic rights of the IP, namely: Cultural integrity, self-governance and empowerment, social justice and human rights, and right to ancestral domain.
The enabling laws that embody government policies on IP and the Moro peoples respectively are: Indigenous Peoples Rights Act (IPIRA) in 1987 and RA 9054, the amended version of RA 6734 (ARMM organic law), as revised in 2001 as a result of the final agreement between GRP and MNLF in September 1996. Both laws set a definite direction towards self-determination, even if limited, or autonomy under the sovereignty of the state and with the integrity of the national territory.
With IPIRA, native title is recognized and the IP can now have their communal ancestral domains and lands titled. The good news is that after 10 years of implementation, the National Commission on IP has issued certificates of ancestral domain titles (CADT) and ancestral land titles (CALT) comprising 1,641,601 hectares benefiting 330,795 individuals. The Lumads are the ancestors of the national domain indeed.
But not in the ARMM. For the Moro peoples, already two of the three agenda of the peace process have been realized and the third agenda – the ancestral domain – is rumored to have been settled in the said MOA that is said to contain “the four strands of concept, territory, resources, and governance. For the IP, the case of the Teduray and the two Manobo tribes in the ARMM is very unusual and unfortunate.There is no law in the country, least of all in the ARMM (IPIRA being inoperative in the Muslim autonomous region) they can use to pursue their ancestral domain.
Likewise in the expanded ARRM. As said earlier, there are the Subanens in the Zambo peninsula; the Higaunan in Iligan; the Manobo, Blaan, and Tboli in the Cotabato area; and other tribes in Palawan.
And there is no clue that the ARRM intends to pass an organic law for the ancestral domain of the Lumads. Conflict is therefore inevitable.
In modern conflicts, Sir Rupert Smith in his book “The Utility of Force†a celebrated work in Europe in 2006, has this to say: “The unspoken but essential assumption on which democracy rests is that the minority trusts the majority not to take unreasonable advantage of their position. In many of the areas in which our modern conflicts have erupted, either the majority genuinely did not respect the rights of the minority, or else the minority perceived itself to be unfairly dealt with.â€Â
This is a message not only to the national Christian majority but also to the Muslim majority in the ARMM, because democracy is the rule of a majority that is concerned with the minority indeed.
Tounge (at 9:05 am), ‘crusade’?
Karl (at 10:45 am), i see that you and your Dad have similar writing styles. He raises a good point about muddled civil war as compared to the examples he shares of the US, UK and Spanish civil wars.
Can you ask him then if we’re more related to what’s been happening in Somalia where the State disintegrated and various warlords took over?
The most serious of Civil Wars occurred all over Europe during the 18th, 19th and 20th centuries that eventually metamorphosed into two world wars in the last century.
Even before the defeat of the British by the colonists in the U.S., the French had suffered a disastrous defeat at the hands of the British.
Putting a democratic slant on evolving tribes in the Philippines context would be a stretch since as the word implies tribes implies communal central governance around a chief or Datu.
Even the word citizen which came from the word city would be an alien construct with tribes.
Europe and other countries had hundreds of years of evolving feudal communities that had already forms of representative governments.
The tribes in Las Isla Filipinas are far removed from that stage.
More than even sociologists you would need anthropological experts for these kind of problems.
One country with part of the country integrated with the outside world, one part still in primitive agricultural conditions and the other part in primitive tribal conditions. socially.
Now try putting in national policies to fit all three….
i tried finding photos of the goyito plushie on google. wala.
Anthony, I first heard it on the radio, then it was reported on tv but only after the tv reporters reported about the milf statement of the president. I guess it is not fair to question why jove had to air it. Unang una, ang may final say kung ano ang eere at hindi ay ang producers niya sa TV. Lets say, if he didn’t advise that story to us, malamang mapapagalitan siya o ma-reprimand ng mga boss. The next day, the papers came up with stories about the incident. I saw his actual tv report. It was, in a word, fair. He just used the outburst issue near the end of the report for added context. Nasa youtube din ang report kasama ang mga report ng dos, nadia’s I think. Also that of gma7. Interestingly they all didn’t use the outburst as the main story. And with all due respects Anthony, duon sa kwestyon na “did he have to report it?”, ang sagot ay yes. I saw the actual report on TEN over at TV5. And based on the incidents concerning the president BEFORE the outburst, the public needs to know what is happening to the president, especially if it concerns her state of mind and state of health. Ilang araw wala sa mata ng tao si Gloria bago ang outburst na iyan, we must remember that.
Now about the comment na tsismis lang ang alam ni jove. I am his former producer over at ABC5 (i’m now working for another network). That’s a sweeping statement that is totally false. We’ve (kami na nasa singko nuon at mga nanunuod na lang nayon sa singko) seen him work since the time of FVR and he never filed a “rumor†story. Nuong panahon ni Erap, siya ang nag expose ng supposed link ng kamag anak ni Erap sa book scam, among other expose stories about that admin. Sa present administration, he served as our insider in the palace, mula sa pag take over nila Gloria kapalit ni Erap, hanggang nuong Gloriagate kunsaan saksi siya duon sa mga CD ni Bunye at mga tumamang kudeta sa Pangulo. Wala pa naman siyang binalita na di supported by facts and video. Ako na magsasabi na di lulusot na umere yan sa programa ko nuon kung di suportado ng facts. Karamihan nasasaksihan talaga nila ng team niya sa palasyo. Di ko mawari kung saan nakuha ni Leytenian ang impression niya, pero sana nanunuod siya ng reports bago siya gumawa ng ganiyang nakakasirang komento.
Sus, ganyan naman talaga eh, laging shoot the messenger. Tatawa tawa lang ang palasyo na may sumisira sa mga palace reporters na laging nakakasaksi sa mga kabulustagang ginagawa nila. Pwede ba, old style na iyan, bistado na! Yan din naman ginagawa pag sinisira ang ibang institusyon. Para ang bumango ay ang nakaupo. Magagawa na nila lahat gusto nila. Style nyo bulok!
anthony scalia,
Jove’s piece on Gloria ! It made me laugh. Ot’s called infotainment and there’s nothing wrong with covering what is called the lighter side.
Besides it adds a another dimension to Gloria’s image. Now we know she’s not only a troll, she’s also a bitchy troll.
Anthony,
If I were Jove I would have titled the segment on Gloria’s tantrum – “Tempest in the chamberpot”
Amthony,
And was it not fun to watch her eunuchs scrambling around the chamberpot looking for her prompter?
the ‘issue’ on whether or not it was appropriate to report PGMA blowing her top off is in itself a not-so-big issue..
the bigger issue is that there is an audience who finds it worth their time to listen/watch a report like that..
too bad that the people, and the reporter, is trying to get it isolated from the context of the Lanao raid..
Wow, if pampangueno is the Professional Regulatory Commission,
Leytenian is now the MTRCB “…..It’s not educational to many especially the youth.” Naks.
Si Anthony Scalia naman is lost… “But must you report it? Upload it to Youtube?”….Duh, youtube is a FREE video sharing site, no one is forcing you to go there. Turn off your computer.
cheers
By Jove! Leytenian, you’ve touched some raw nerves there.
Anyway, to Anthony and Liam: almost all journalists are looking to scoop unguarded moments like those. The most rabid, the Americans, where serious monments could be truened into a Comedy Central: Bush-capades, the open microphones, etc.
“there is an audience who finds it worth their time to listen/watch a report like that..”
Isa pa itong Liam boy na napaka-presumptious.
Duh, in the online world, there is such a thing called “CLUSTERING”… online commentators (that’s us, look in the mirror) gravitate towards the topics that interests them
…so who is to say this is the only thing the audience finds worthy of their time…(baka nagbabasa rin sila ng FT along with pep.ph)
“Now try putting in national policies to fit all three….”
Failure of liberal concepts like considerations for “hundreds of years of evolving feudal communities that had already forms of representative governments” is obvious. Universal liberties of men (and women) need to be established, even if it means they’re all assumptions (Manolo;s favorite word, I’ve heard). A civil philosophy based on secular ethics should be imposed to all members and visitors of the state.
Liam, watch the actual report of jove (and the other palace tv reporters’ reports on youtube also) … i don’t think the reporter(s) were isolating the MILF or Lanao issue from the incident. It was even their “lead”. Hindi kaya tayo lang kasi ang nag focus sa outburst issue, tapos sila ang nakita nating mali ang ginagawa? When in all fairness, they actually touched on the more pressing issue?
Leytenian, being someone with the audacity to insult a veteran malacanang reporter so bluntly, I find it hard to believe you value education over anything else when you yourself can neglect being educated with your statements.
“Create a new generation with as little bias as possible”
This seems to be a solution that has no proper measure, yes?
It is true, the future rests with the youth. Yes, educate them as much as we can about peace, love, unity, and what not, but to my opinion, we should never teach them to turn their backs on what is wrong around them.
Being educated doesn’t seem to go hand in hand with being numb…at least that’s how i feel about it.
‘Crame sends shotguns to villagers in danger areas’ – Manila Standard
“THE government is sending 1,000 shotguns to Mindanao to arm ‘‘auxiliary police,’’ who will help defend villages against invading members of the separatist Moro Islamic Liberation Front.”
http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?page=news2_aug21_2008
‘National Police spokesman Chief Supt. Nicanor Bartolome said the auxiliary police, which have yet to be recruited, would be similar to militiamen that the Armed Forces arm and train.’
grd,
Thanks for the info on the Blackshirts. Are the above guns for the ‘Ilagas’?
Shotguns are only to scare the MILF not to kill them. It has maybe twenty feet of range. But at least with shotguns, the moros won’t find hacking innocents that tempting anymore.
So what do you guys think of my theory that this BJE catastrophe was a ploy to get the US and other interested countries off our backs on the Mindanao issue?
The Muslim leadership for the BJE states that they are for peace and that they will be capable leaders over a large geographic area that includes a large number of lumads and Christians. A sign of good-faith on their part will be to for them to immediately disarm Kato and Bravo.
I don’t think “disarm Kato and Bravo” will happen because Kabalu-and-company’s cause benefits from the deaths and village-burning that these 2 commanders inflict. Just as important, Kabalu-and-company are weak leaders unable to control these “lost commands”.
nash,
“Si Anthony Scalia naman is lost… “But must you report it? Upload it to Youtube?â€Â….Duh, youtube is a FREE video sharing site, no one is forcing you to go there. Turn off your computer.
cheers”
haay naku. iho, sablay ka na naman, as always.
ikaw ang lost. Should Jove have to upload it to YouTube? does a journalist have to report anything and everything? – yun ang puntirya ko
Oh yes, i dont have to go http://www.youtube.com, as i saw the clip in Jove’s web site already (and can watch it all over again there if i want to)
***yawn***
***turns off PC***
Jeers
manuelbuencamino,
“Jove’s piece on Gloria ! It made me laugh.”
actually, me too
“Ot’s called infotainment and there’s nothing wrong with covering what is called the lighter side.”
yeah, there’s nothing wrong, but the reporter is not obliged to print/air it.
“Besides it adds a another dimension to Gloria’s image. Now we know she’s not only a troll, she’s also a bitchy troll.”
agreed
“If I were Jove I would have titled the segment on Gloria’s tantrum – “Tempest in the chamberpot†”
buti na lang you’re not Jove!
“And was it not fun to watch her eunuchs scrambling around the chamberpot looking for her prompter?”
agreed
“does a journalist have to report anything and everything? – yun ang puntirya ko”
Is a journalist NOT allowed to have personal life outside of the field? Kaya nga sa youtube niya inapload at hindi sa news site ano.
the last time i checked, you tube is NOT a news site so Jove is not reporting the news! It’s a video sharing site.
pwede ba
what a waste of digital space. as they say, if you don’t want the show, turn off your tv. but in the case of a blog where some real gems could be found, it is hard to turn of your pc off and deny yourself of those gems though you have to wade through a ton of garbage to find them… but this is democracy where everyone should not be faulted for being comic, but when GMA made a comic act we easily responded with our own infotainment and comickry, and the sad part, we do not even notice them.
case of double standard?
to Sonny Fernandez as you defend Jove and Manila-based newsbroadcasters (and YouTube posters)…. maybe the disenchantment of a few Pinoys is that they want are hungry for information and coverage of the MILF’s rampage — (i) what is happening to those displaced by the village burning, (ii) that Kabalu-and-company leadership protects Bravo and Kato; (iii) govt-Pinas military actions; (iv) lumads… please, show a story about what is happening to the other tribes, (v) what does the foreign diplomatic corps think of what is going on, (iv) the 2-year old murdered.
The last ten days saw the resurgence of terrorist acts worlwide: Algeria, Afghanistan, Lebanon, today Pakistan to name a few. All have been blamed to Islamist extremists.
The timing of the MILF’s own atrocious acts was accidental, or not: in the name of the political Islam.
“We are already a nation at war in a world at war.” Plaridel Garcia, courtesy of KG
The Philippine government will surely confront yet a big disaster: if while fighting a seccesionist war in Mindanao, an unexpected global war breaks out in the Middle East given the Filipino migrant worker disapora in that part of the world:
Saudi Arabia – 2,000,000; UAE – 450,000; Kuwait – 150,000; Qatar – 60,000; Bahrain – 40,000; Israel – 40,000
It’s a scary thought.
Anthony Scalia
“ikaw ang lost. Should Jove have to upload it to YouTube? does a journalist have to report anything and everything? – yun ang puntirya ko”
Hijo, journ 11. A journalist covering a public official, ,nay, a prominent figure should report anything and everything. Ano ka ba?
“pwede ba”
talagang ‘pwede ba’!
you still miss my point – why does he have to report it? upload it there? (though i enjoyed it)
“Is a journalist NOT allowed to have personal life outside of the field?”
????????????????????
in case you haven’t noticed, Jove wasnt in the clip. so its not Jove’s very own ‘personal life’ that was meant to be shared with the rest of the earth with net access
further, in case you have not noticed, Jove was able to record the clip because he’s a Malacañang reporter. in other words, he got the clip while in the line of official duty
“the last time i checked, you tube is NOT a news site so Jove is not reporting the news! It’s a video sharing site.”
korek!!!!!!
however, you may want to visit “By Jove” and read the text just below the video window in the middle of his post on gloria’s antics,
“Video grab of my news report for TEN The Evening News at TV5 (10:30-11:00PM M-F)”
sa madaling sabi – pang report at naireport na nya ang clip! its an official news clip! that was later uploaded to Youtube!
kaya ‘pwede ba’ is really more suited to you my friend
frombelow,
“Hijo, journ 11. A journalist covering a public official, ,nay, a prominent figure should report anything and everything. Ano ka ba?”
hello?! “anything” and “everything”?!?
its obvious “ethics in journalism” must be higher journalism (journalism 99 perhaps) and not journ 11
kaya “ano ka ba” is really more suited to you. iho
Sonny Fernandez,
you are in media, so understandable yang comment mo.
self-restraint is never a trait of Pinoy journalists.
medyo understandable pa if the ‘outbursts’ were in the midst of an intense meeting of the national security council or cabinet meeting, then that qualifies sa “the public needs to know what is happening to the president, especially if it concerns her state of mind and state of health”
but ‘outbursts’ due to petty mundane things? does the public need to know that still? the only reasons for airing that is it will grab viewers and ‘we have to air it ahead of the other stations!’
So PGMA was caught ‘off-camera’ being mataray. So, what’s the big fuss???Presidents are humans too; with real emotions.
As I said above, the Bush-capades: calling a reporter a SOB, tellng off the Iranian leader, calling Hillary Clinton a bitch, etc. If you try to find out all presidential gaffes and outbursts, you will be amazed.
Common, Mr. Jove! As you claim that you have covered PGMA that long, you could have been more understanding. And these blog posts:
“She didn’t appear like she was in control. I can even dare say that she appeared like she’s gone ROCK BOTTOM. (Just look at her resigned but angry look when she finally emerged to deliver her statement.)
And that is quite telling.”
Now, I realize that journalists who get official accreditation as reporters should be limited in their blogging.
Readers beware (caveat emptor): in this world, there’s so much Schadenfreude, the German word for deriving pleasure from others’ misfortunes.
There is a lesson about Jove……… . . . If you have not learned it yet, know it now…. Jove is a voyeur… be around him at our own risk.
Jove… a voyeur…. be around him at your own risk..
and then, there is d0d0ng. Seek another, not d0d0ng, as babysitter….. dod0ng likely to offer your 2-year-old as sacrifice to his friends who seek ancestral domain, then explain the event to you as “…. the way his community does things…. your loss simply a cost of doing business”.
it’s like a reality tv show ala pinoy big brother… nangyari sa bahay ni ate. baligtad lang ang eksena… sa halip na si ate ang kumukuha ng video, siya yung kunukunan ng bisita.
kung makapag react kayo kala nyo alam nyo ang nangyayari sa mindanao! well good for those who had first hand experience pero most of you are not. you are either on your couch or at the comforts of your home while people in mindanao are running for their lives!
cheeeeeeeeeeeeeh!@!!!!!!$@#%$^%&*
PSI:
I agree with you that the president is still only human…but the president of our country nonetheless. Though all the reasons for her outburst are shady, I believe integrity is a prerequisite in being the leader of a nation. And in this instance, I think our president was quite lacking.
As per Jove should’ve been more understanding, maybe…but I remember last year’s SONA when our president ended with “a president can be as strong as she wants to be” (or something to that effect) seeing her outburst, you’d have to wonder, was that a sign of weakness or exercising how strong-armed she could be?
I’m not a journalist, a reasearcher, or someone all knowing. Just an average Joe keeping myself informed of where our nation is headed. Did seeing her “vulnerability” deem informative to me? Yes it did. At least now I know that the leader of our nation can bare claws and fangs when things aren’t going as planned.
I’m just afraid that that same exhibit of anger could incite enough obedience from other people to do what she wants regardless of what it is.
Ok, I’m in danger of going off topic, but I hope you get my point.
UP n student:
Hmmm…voyeur is defined as someone taking sexual pleasure from observing naked bodies in a hidden location. Maninilip kumbaga. If you feel that showing GMA’s anger is connected to something sexual, I am astounded by your…uh….unorthodox way of thinking.
If you’re aiming for the reason that this seems like obsessive reporting, or maybe a covert operation of sorts…be reminded that Jove’s job IS to follow the president around and observe her.
Besides, the president knew that there were cameras on her, and not just Jove’s, yet she still exhibited such behavior. That alone defies the very definition of being a voyeur.
The president is a public figure. ‘nuf said.
Honestly, it’s easy to hide behind an online nickname and throw flames and sometimes the most outrageous criticisms on a person. See things as YOU see them, and don’t act like it’s already a scientific law just because that’s how you feel.
It saddens me that blogging is sometimes tainted by “omniscience” when it should be simply accounts from the points of view of people on their experiences. Yes, a person’s point of view.
Whoopie-f’ing-doo…isn’t that what these journalists are doing with their blogs?
anthony scalia:
Uhmm, The Evening News on tv5 airs at 10:30pm…so I doubt Jove was aiming to be the first to air it.
Does the public need to know or see the president’s outburst? Who knows? I wanted to see it for my own reasons…you saw it distasteful for your own reasons…I don’t think none of us know what the rest of the public thinks of it. I’m not saying that what the public thinks is immaterial to journalists, but you can never know or conclude what others may think about a particular report. It could be good to me, but bad for you…and vice versa.
I believe these journalists deal with this conflict with each of their stories…else, if you want to play it safe, you won’t need journalists…just a cameraman.
Petty mundane things…a missing studio prompter didn’t seem like a petty mundane thing to the president. Though it is to you…are you implying that the president is wrong to be mad that the taping of her important statement about what’s happening in Mindanao was delayed by such a petty mundane thing? Hmmmm….
Hey…the reporters did mention that her wrath came out when the taping of her important statement got delayed. I think you focused on the fact that her anger was shown on tv too much and neglect to take into consideration the other factors and details surrounding what happened.
It was an important presidential statement to tape wasn’t it?
to BrianB: the 12-gauge shotgun is deadly effective. in fact, it was used for jungle warfare (by Brits against Malay communists and by GI’s in Vietnam).
#1-buckshot has ten 7.60mm (.30-cal) pellets — each pellet packs more energy than a 357-magnum.
Deadly for 10-meters or less…. effective even at 20- to 30-meters…. But you have to practice if you hit your target.
psi,
i really don’t know if those guns are for the ilagas. i’m not an expert with guns and have not fired one actually, but i don’t think shutguns can match the high-powered weapons of the milf. maybe in a way it can deter attacks but more problem if they are used against civilians. i really hope it will not come to that… back to the 70′s.
KG,
‘“special provinces†were formed rather than institutions to recognize the distinct cultural identity’
Is your father suggesting that instead of having a Tboli territory, we should just have an office like a Tboli Development Authority and course all resources through that agency? I think that is agood idea.
everyone was putting in his five-cents worth on the way the malacanang press relations office bungled up the press con by GMA. Mostly say it was unpresidential, and some called it “Tempest in a Teapot”, whatever that means.
i would say that GMA acted more presidential. i would have fired my entire press corps and every one wearing barong tagalog in that room for their ineptness and incompetence if i were the president. imagine calling the president in the room where she has to address the media without all the sound/teleprompter in place ! ! !
On Reality Check:
“So let’s give them a dose of their own medicine. Let’s aim for independence this time. For real. Like what the Algerians did when their clamor for autonomous rule was repeatedly and violently denied by the French colons. Given the Filipinos’ hostile attitude to anything Moro and Muslim, there is no other option left. This is now the reality facing us.”
there’s something wrong with the comparison. France is in Europe and Algeria is: there’s a huge continental barrier to use as comparison for independence. this do not apply to the moros…
To learn from other countries, the link below is a good a read: Ancestral Domain in Comparative Perspective. This may provide each one of us to understand our role as filipinos or moros.
http://doc.operationspaix.net/serv1/USIP_Ancestral_Domain_2005-09_-3.pdf
jcc,
I agree, I would fire jove francisco first for putting almost everyone in that room at risk of losing their jobs for being so disorganize.
why upload in youtube? she is still our president. Don’t he/ they have any respect left? even to the media’s reputation? That youtube upload is embarrassing to the world. Our reputation has never been protected by the media..
That was not necessary. Reporting it on local TV maybe appropriate but people don’t believe on those biases anymore. We have a PEACE issue.
Where’s ethics, professionalism, civic duty and social responsibility. Are these skills sacrificed due to too much freedom of speech and taking it for granted? which is which? what’s left among us filipinos? who’s really representing us? the politicians? or the media owned or manipulated by elites? or it’s really just us?
maganding gabi po…
John
“The total Islamized population of Mindanao
was estimated at 39.29 percent in 1903; but only 20.17 percent in 1975. The total Lumad population
was 22.11 percent in 1903; and only 6.86 percent in 1975…”
Meron akong stats nakuha sa UNDP isabit ko na din ang ibang stat. me napansin ako tungkol sa percentage of muslims.
Mukhang ang bilis naman nabawan from 1900 to 1903 ang pecentage dahil kaya ito ke pershing?
http://hdr.undp.org/docs/network/PhilHDR2005_Launch.htm
Estimated number of displaced people due to the Mindanao conflict since the 1970s: 2,000,000
Percent of people in Mindanao who were Moro in 1900: 76
Percent who were Moro in 2000: 18
Percentage of major Muslim tribes who now live in areas outside their ancestral homelands: 20-30
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CVj,
if that was a compliment, thanks.
no chance to ask him bout somalia,pero I tried .
ako me sariling opinion:
somailia has a central government, albeit weak.
if you are implying that their wars are US financed,because that is the info I got from the web.
tayo parang ganun na din because we cannot modernize using our own resoures. we have yet to implement our modernization law, but we aint got the money.
before we allocated 333 billion for modernization if I am not mistaken for fifteen years, that makes it 22 Billion a year ,again if I am not mistaken. No can Do. walang congressman o senator na papayag.
They even reduced it to 250 Billion.
That modernization law also says that we rely on Filipino technology:not feasible.
sidenote:where are the proceeds from the ft. boni sale?
So what we have left is to appreciate foreign assistance from US , Australia and the others.
for our AFP lets take the year 2002
the budget for afp/dnd was 69 B subtract 22 B taken from pension of retirees and vets that leaves you 47B
then subtact salriea and allowances of active personnel that leaves you 16 Billion
16 billion to operate afp/dnd yearly is not enough,IMHO
what is ou fallback, we say don’t worry help is on the way!
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Supremo,
thanks, as well
My own opinion.
I think by giving them provinces and bahala na sila sa buhay nila instead of an instituting them; is not giving them importance.when you institute them you recognize them.
Lalo yatang lumabo
Anthony Scalla
“its obvious “ethics in journalism†must be higher journalism (journalism 99 perhaps) and not journ 11″
I will send you a copy of the “Ethics in Jounalism” being “practised” by local and western journalist and you will be surprised to know that a journalist is actually violating the Ethics if “he will not do” what Jove did.
Journ 11. Wala namang journ 99. Ano ka ba ?
The whole world is treated to what Jacob Weisberg calls Bushism’s. Slate the online magazine owned by the Washington Post even has a link to a collection of the precious quotes of W.
At the bottom is one of my favorites. You will need audio to listen to it.
What Francisco did was excellent reporting and he added his personal commentary.
http://politicalhumor.about.com/cs/georgewbush/a/top10bushisms.htm
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushism-uniquelyamerican.htm
At least Bush exposes himself to the press and takes questions.
GMA is soooooo paranoid that she communicates one way in a pre-programmed manner to the people.
That is not communicating that is propaganda and consistently trying to create what they believe people should know…. Never worked and never will work…
Many here love to talk about the practice of managing government in much the same way as one would manage business.
That is an egregious error. Business has only one rationale sustaining profits.
In modern societies, governments role is mediating and arbitrating the differing conflicting selfish interests of the people within the community.
Hence the so called chief executive of the state have to be cognizant of the intended and unintended consequences of how they communicate.
Just read the interesting article on Marcos and his trusted generals in today’s Inquirer concerning Ninoy.
This MOA-AD fiasco can be traced to incompetence at the very top.
She had to backtrack as she herself did not comprehend that one of her main support groups -the LGU’s were united in their opposition to this aborted agreement when it became known to them.
Karl, you’re welcome. Yes, on Somalia, i was referring to the dominance of warlords (with a weak central authority). And no, I was not referring to US funding as i did not know that Somalia’s wars were US financed.
frombelow,
“I will send you a copy of the “Ethics in Jounalism†being “practised†by local and western journalist and you will be surprised to know that a journalist is actually violating the Ethics if “he will not do†what Jove did”
please email it to jakethesnake_gregthehammer@yahoo.com
“Journ 11. Wala namang journ 99. Ano ka ba ?”
i wrote “journ 99 perhaps.” so its either wala ngang subject na ethics in journalism or the course number for it isn’t journ 99.
Ano ka ba?
The MILF website luwaran is complaining about Nur Misuari MNLF and that Misuari . . . who is now against the inclusion of ARMM areas in the proposed Bangsamoro Juricical Entity
J,
“Uhmm, The Evening News on tv5 airs at 10:30pm…so I doubt Jove was aiming to be the first to air it.”
oh really? you doubt? if Jove aired the clip the following day, an eternity has passed. obviously you’re not in media
” “Does the public need to know or see the president’s outburst? Who knows? I wanted to see it for my own reasons…you saw it distasteful for your own reasons…I don’t think none of us know what the rest of the public thinks of it. I’m not saying that what the public thinks is immaterial to journalists, but you can never know or conclude what others may think about a particular report. It could be good to me, but bad for you…and vice versa.”
Right. The ‘holy grail’ of journalism, “the right of the public to know.” Actually it really means “i think the public would want to know this and i’d be given a bonus if my outfit will be the first to air it! Imagine the number of viewership!”
“I believe these journalists deal with this conflict with each of their stories…else, if you want to play it safe, you won’t need journalists…just a cameraman.”
maybe you should tell that to Jove
“Petty mundane things…a missing studio prompter didn’t seem like a petty mundane thing to the president. Though it is to you…are you implying that the president is wrong to be mad that the taping of her important statement about what’s happening in Mindanao was delayed by such a petty mundane thing? Hmmmm….”
my friend, we are talking about the reporting/coverage the outburst of the President on mundane things. not on the right of the President to be upset and let out an outburst per se (in short, the right of the President to be human) Hmmmmmmm
“Hey…the reporters did mention that her wrath came out when the taping of her important statement got delayed. I think you focused on the fact that her anger was shown on tv too much and neglect to take into consideration the other factors and details surrounding what happened.”
in case you have not noticed, a considerable time elapsed from the ‘outbursts’ to the actual announcement of gloria. the ‘outburst’ was given a separate treatment. it would have been different if the ‘outburst’ took place during the conduct of a presscon (something which took place in the past a few times)
“It was an important presidential statement to tape wasn’t it?”
for you
to TNT:
whoWhom the gods would destroy, they first make mad.trinitrotoluene,
“Yes. its quite obvious the scalias and the UPn lakwatsa studes do not know what they’re talking about.”
it takes one to know one, my friend
“Jove is light years away in terms of accomplishments and degree of commitment…”
****falls from seat and almost chokes on frapuccino****
“.. these guys can’t even get out of their nooky corners, just probably to eat and sleep.”
speaking from experience, eh?
“Guys, before you mouth off, make sure you’re doing something worthwhile also and get out of your mothers’ house…”
speaking from experience, eh?
one unsolicited advice –
iho, don’t desecrate manolo’s blog with comments such as what you wrote. yang mga ganyang tenor, bagay na bagay sa ellentordesillas.com. doon ka na lang
trinitrotoluene,
on randam na randam, yes randam ko na hindi lang si Gloria.. private investors too.
towards the end of your article , it says…
“Against these big negative numbers, private domestic investment growth has so far saved the day. Luckily for us, they have been large enough to more than offset the drop in government construction and FDI. Have private Filipino investors suddenly become much more confident of our economic prospects, then? I see no reason why this would be so.”
PROSPECT?
In 2006 there was RISKY BUSINESS, Crisis brewing in the Philippines ( Mindanao)
“The threat is very serious if you look at recent events, the intention of enemy forces, their collaborating with affiliates all around the region, and their technical skills, especially in bomb-making, their tradecraft skills.”
“This arbitrage was a significant factor behind the sharp appreciation of the peso, especially against the yen, in 2005. In addition to banks, foreign investors also targeted short-term domestic fixed-income securities in 2005. In the first quarter of 2006, heavy foreign portfolio and domestic bank arbitrage inflows continued.”
On your investment drought: Our constitution is not FDI friendly. ChaCha can be the answer. Amend those policies made by the old generation elites.
sorry: here’s the link…for Risky Business
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/HH24Ae02.html
suddenly, jove, the supposed unknown and common reporter from the third rate channel is worth all your time, he must really be scaring the shit out of the powers that be.
Today, I learned something new. Who would have thought there are Jove groupies????
So will TNT do a Ninoy on Jove and start selling tShirts? I’ll donate the expression By Jove, I got it!!! to the business-idea.
The Free Press, LBJ and the Tet Offensive………..
Most of the pundits in this blog were probably not yet born when the Tet Offensive occurred during the Vietnam War.
That was when the messenger became the news. Walter Cronkite and the pictures of LBJ following the offensive was all that was necessary for the public and even the enemy then to think that the war was lost. The Vietnamese lost that series of battles but that was the turning point of the war. After the battle for the citadel at Hue, the marines started calling Charlie, Mr. Charlie…
The entire swagger and demeanor of LBJ from the early times of the war to that year was gone….All in color.
He then announced that he was not running for reelection after his landslide win earlier.
The leader of the so called free world appeared defeated.
Naturally Nixon then had to come in and raise the bar, so to speak of warfare, and started bombing Hanoi, shipping into their harbor and Cambodia. All for the U.S. to withdraw with the slogan peace with honor.
In a car show GMA announced a shift in policy with the MILF. No talks without laying down arms…. What that means is simply give up your armed struggle or else……
This fiasco has seriously damaged whatever she has left in credibility.
We shall see if this could prove to be a fatal wound …
Maybe the severed heads of Kato and Bravo would satisfy the blood thirst in the short term.
Let us see.
My understanding is that both Kato and Bravo had for many now been challenging (disrespecting????) the old-guys of the MILF leadership…. maybe an MILF-sponsored hatchet-job results in the severed heads.
A positve perspective in addition to UP n.. comment on
http://www.quezon.ph/1957/berserkers-and-a-breather/#comment-922776
“Forty-one Muslim religious leaders among them ulama and scholars have appealed for peace and justice in Mindanao amidst the seeming escalation of the renewed fighting between the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF).”
http://www.mb.com.ph/issues/2008/08/21/MAIN20080821133039.html
“as i did not know that Somalia’s wars were US financed.”
maybe they were ,and maybe they were not.
but washington posts says so.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/16/AR2006051601625_pf.html
one thing sticks to my mind:
The movie:Blackhawk Down
Thanks for the link Karl, since you’re closer to military circles, it would be interesting to know the current National Security threat assessment concerning the scenario where the Philippine state dissolves into a collection of warlord enclaves. Non-confidential info of course.
grd,
Whether by their renegade or lost commands, the MILF pushed it to the edge:
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/115456/Arming-civilians-in-Mindanao-would-be-disastrous—AI
“Local political leaders in Iligan City, Lanao del Norte and North Cotabato led efforts to form civilian militias after the MILF attacks that killed at least 30 people in Lanao del Norte alone, said Amnesty International. ”
“A militia group called “God Save Iligan City” has been set up by 300 licensed gun owners, politicians and local government officials in Iligan City, said Amnesty International.”
“Meanwhile, North Cotabato local patrons reportedly supplied guns and ammunitions to Civil Volunteer Organization (CVO) forces despite local security officials’ alleged rejection of Vice Governor Emmanuel Piñol’s request to provide ammunition for civilian militia. ”
Do you now know have similar CVOs in Davao?
Condoleeza Rice just gave McCain a soft push towards the White House. Obama’s big-issue (when US troops leave Iraq) has been muddled up. US State Dept and Iraqi-leadership agrees on 2011 troop withdrawal date (one year (not 7 years nor a hundred years) longer than Obama’s wiishful target).
the strategy is quite obvious. since the gloriagate days, we’ve embraced jove’s insider pov and his knack for reading the body language of officials. suddenly, some people here are criticizing him for continuing to do the same. when he exposed the supposed cabinet coup in his blog (doves and hawks), during the heady days of the i am sorry scandal, nobody cried foul. maybe because in a way the story benefited the queen? it is very obvious, these people just want him out of the way and irrelevant, so their queen will continue with her crimes. tsk tsk, di naman kami tanga para di iyan mahalata.
Exactly! And now they want Jove, FIRED??? Whoa! Apektado talaga sila sa supposed common reporter from a third rated network ah?
very obvious in the clip… way too many underlings to fix a very simple problem — a prompter and prepare the La Gloria’s media set
just one or two staff could have taken care of the glitch… but we see a dozen or so dazed and scared puppies moving hither and dither terrorized by Gloria’s tantrum
gma i think knowingly throwed a temper tantrum for effect…. and to deflect the seriousness of the problem in mindanao…
i diagreed with jove francisco.. the troll bitch was in full control of the medium and the subtle message… this is how propaganda works…
some manipulative gaslighting going on in the anger display… i.e. “not my fault on what’s going on in mindanao… it’s the fault of my underlings..”.
RE: guyito mascot… i wonder where we can buy the cute teddy carabao..
anthony scalia:
“the only reasons for airing that is it will grab viewers and ‘we have to air it ahead of the other stations!”
“oh really? you doubt? if Jove aired the clip the following day, an eternity has passed. obviously you’re not in media”
Uh, you do know that other stations have an earlier newscast than tv5 right? So the point being, regardless of how much Jove wanted to air his story first, he’ll never be able to do so since their news is at 10:30pm. Get your mind out of the gutter and review your statements because you are starting to lose all sense in what you’re saying.
Obviously you’re not in media. If you are, you probably don’t deserve to be there.
“Right. The ‘holy grail’ of journalism, “the right of the public to know.†Actually it really means “i think the public would want to know this and i’d be given a bonus if my outfit will be the first to air it! Imagine the number of viewership!—
I was talking about whatever the public thinks of a story, you can never generalize. Try reading and understanding the post.
First to air it? Tapos ang tinitira mo si Jove from tv5? Hahaha. If you have so little faith in journalists…why bother argue? If you’re losing sleep over this, then go and make a “Jove Resign!” poster and do a rally in front of their station. Sheeesh.
“my friend, we are talking about the reporting/coverage the outburst of the President on mundane things. not on the right of the President to be upset and let out an outburst per se (in short, the right of the President to be human) Hmmmmmmm”
Don’t you think that’s what is wrong? You see it plainly as someone showing the public the president’s wrath and yet you do not interest yourself in knowing or considering why. You shoot a reporter down because you did not read between the lines? Per se…Hmmmmmmm
“in case you have not noticed, a considerable time elapsed from the ‘outbursts’ to the actual announcement of gloria. the ‘outburst’ was given a separate treatment. it would have been different if the ‘outburst’ took place during the conduct of a presscon (something which took place in the past a few times)”
Yes, it would have been different, but she was taping a statement to the public. The only difference is that it was not made live. If you’re thinking this is an issue of personal space…this isn’t like the media not allowed to go into FG’s room in St. Luke’s. The president was there on official business, thus, the reporters and their teams did their jobs.
You know, if you were a palace official, you could’ve used her anger for her benefit. Strategic lang na angulo and it would seem that the president was that passionate and concerned about what’s happening in Mindanao. Being overzealous in shooting reporters down with doing their jobs won’t get you anywhere.
I applaud those teams who were still at the president’s face amidst her wrath. Imagine if journalists/reporters simply cowered and played it safe.
Madonna:
“i diagreed with jove francisco.. the troll bitch was in full control of the medium and the subtle message… this is how propaganda works…
some manipulative gaslighting going on in the anger display… i.e. “not my fault on what’s going on in mindanao… it’s the fault of my underlings..â€Â.”
You know what, that is a very interesting observation. If that were really the case, the whole act would become a beautiful figure of speech, a display of subtle yet passionate semiotics. I like it! Good one!
UP n student:
“Today, I learned something new. Who would have thought there are Jove groupies????
So will TNT do a Ninoy on Jove and start selling tShirts? I’ll donate the expression By Jove, I got it!!! to the business-idea.”
Talaga bang student ka from UP? Using Ninoy to mock someone else is just wrong. You’re making UP students look bad.
GMA is HUMAN it’s OK to throw a tantrum sometimes.
Even despotic rulers suffer a burn out (Qadafi mellowed, Musharaff quit, Saddam lived in a cave).
It’s obvious naman that the alalays were incompetent. (Maybe they have Ateneo degrees)
Anyways, I hope GMA will take more time outdoors. Playing Golf while Mindanao burns is a good way to relieve the stress.
Also, it’s quite obvious that GMA isn’t getting any these days, Mike Arroyo probably read the new CBCP manual on sex and applied the withdrawal method.
Justice Scalia drinks frappucino while lecturing on journalism ethics?
Wala bang BBC sa lugar mo? This sort of footage will be all over the British media if it happened to their PM. I guess the Brits are just as unethical as Jove.
another gloria propaganda. she’s getting predictable.
J,
it is normal and natural for three to 6 year olds to throw temper tantrums…because they don’t know any better to get what they want…. but..
for an adult to throw a temper tantrum… whoa… it is almost always for effect… not merely an expression of anger or frustration… such adults are called bullies…
a million more whoas when a politician do a temper tantrum in full view of the cameras and the public ….like what GMA is always doing… sometimes she does it with her cabinet or her staff… same thing…
the palace spinmeisters always say that Gloria’s temper displays s due to her strong concern and passion for her work… DUH!!!!!! LOL. Eto pa si Migs Zubiri, motherly lang daw si GMA. LOL again.
Crazy eh? Glaringly bad, obnoxious behavior, but it’s suppose to reflect good on the person?
For John Marzan:
Goyito pic -> http://www.flickr.com/photos/flubber_meets_clara/1435370623/in/set-72157601405275031/
Madonna:
“Crazy eh? Glaringly bad, obnoxious behavior, but it’s suppose to reflect good on the person?”
I think it only works in movies. Haha. But they could’ve made a good come back on the incident to the effect that she’s THAT angry at what’s happening in Mindanao. That she’s affected so. Could’ve made it seem like a betrayal of trust rather than a sign of weakness.
But, hey, that’s just how I see it. Hehe, at least masnatural ang itsura ni GMA with her statement compared dun sa “I’m sorry” one. =P
She must have had a really hard day…I heard she was rudely lambasted earlier in the El Shaddai rally but that’s another story, then the escalation of the mindanao conflict which was not supposed to happen…and so what happens when the big boss arrives and everything plus everyone was not ready? (I presuppose that they knew she was coming and should have been prepared) I am not a big fan of GMA but I am also a manager and based on my limited personal experience with her when she came to visit our province, she is a person of order. Her staff was there a week before to see that everything was in place…she likes to follow a schedule but surprisingly she was not rigid because when it came to her personal needs (aka bladder break), she actually proceeded to the public restroom (although an office restroom was earlier reserved for her). One of my staff had to frantically ran after her and her guards to direct her to another restroom. Looking at the video, I think she showed admirable temperance after all the flack she has been through the whole day…I would have reacted very similarly in her place, ibang cuss words lang and maybe lesser decibels…but I know the feeling, I have asked my people several times after a frustrating day tapos may dagdag pa…why are you doing this to me??? but nobody really answers…and frankly I really don’t want to know.
At least if there is one thing about her that is consistent…
CVJ,
gotta pass on the last question, all I can give you are my opinions.
First sa tingin ko tama ka,militias and arming every afffected citizen won’t help.
If what I read above were true, The Ilagas were responsible for unleashing the beast within of the moros in the seventies. If what I read is they resorted to cannibalism, and they were even responsible for the death of favali.Manero was released recently right?
Now an alleged Ilaga Pinol wants the disarming of the MILF; I think all politicians’ private armies should also disarm, well malabo mangyari yun.
as for a weak central government di sana ito mangyari kahit na dumating ang panahon na mag federalism tayo.
Buti na lang CVj, notwithstanding the goings on in Mindanao malayo pa ang Somalia scenario.
speaking of normal
dito lang yata sa pinas walang nagsusuntukan na congressman o senador
sa mga neighboring countries pati yata babae na parlimentarian di sinasanto
me naalala ako muntik na magsuntukan yung sgt at arms ng congress at isang congressman nung erap impeachment.if you watch the news halos every week me nakita ka nagsuntukan sa kanya kanyang parliament.
if nash says it is normal in the UK,sa US news kasi puro blooper ni george bush ang pinapakita,as for their congress tulad yata natin sila hanggang sigawan na lang.
Anrhony Scalia,
“Ot’s called infotainment and there’s nothing wrong with covering what is called the lighter side.â€Â
“yeah, there’s nothing wrong, but the reporter is not obliged to print/air it.”
“yeah and neither is he obligated not to print/air it.”
Agree?
Last month ko yata nadinig si Mirriam na nagsabi na walng surgical solution ang short fuse nya (matapos makipagtalo ke Escudero)
natural di kaya ng surgeon yan, electrician pwede pa siguro.
“arpeelazaro : take your homophobia and hate elsewhere.
August 20th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
Stereotypical and tactless my comment might be, but it’s hardly homophobic and hateful. Typical hyperbolic comment from a Filipino with the brain capacity of an indio.
“BrianB : It’s homophobic because it’s well-known that teddy bears are the accessory du juour of gay intellectuals and hateful because you had to mention it.
August 20th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
Another indio bobo. I suggest you reread your post and laugh at the absurdity of it. Gay intellectuals don’t have an “accesory du jour”, though gays may have (anything pink, teddy bears, tight fitting shirts, being dressed impeccably ala queer eye, you get the drill). And just because I mention Manolo’s sexual orientation doesn’t make me hateful. It’s you who is homo-mongering.
“nash : Teddy Bears unprofessional??? Hmmm, I have two (but they are dogs) and they have been around. ..obviously pampangeno cares more about looks than substance…are you part of the central committee who said the 6-year old girl singer was too ugly to be the face of the olympics?
August 20th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
You gives a flying F if you have a houseful of plushies? You can keep all your infantile desires as long as it’s in your freakin’ home. Don’t bring it to a professional television show, which you don’t have by the way. If I were as dumb as you I’d be bringing my toy truck and GI Joe’s on the office meeting. And why couldn’t I care for both looks AND substance? ‘Things do not pass for what they are, but for what they seem. Most things are judged by their jackets. -Baltasar Gracian’ And oh yes, I’m the headmaster of the chinese communist party who handpicked the cute girl over the ugly one. Yeah…
“Imang : @ Pampangueno, Feeling ko inggit lang yang namamayani sayo. Gusto mo din ng sariling show, ano?What a coward. Pakilala ka kaya ng maayos if you really feel that you have a point.
August 20th, 2008 at 8:37 pm
No, I admire Manolo’s show though I am not a suck-up like some of you here who kiss Manolo’s ass at every opportunity. I give constructive criticims-it’s up to Manolo if he accepts it. And no, I’d like to keep my anonymity – aren’t I just like you?
“jcc :Not too fast Pampangueno. You assumed wrongly that all muslims live by the Koran code. Look around you, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Bin Ladin, Abbu Sayyaf. They kill people if you spouse a religion other than theirs. And you expect your Philippine muslims to respect the Christians? Wake up sir or Madam! ! !
August 20th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
Not so fast JCC. It’s actually slow, you’re brain that is. It’s not official government policy of Iraq, Iran, or Saudi to kill Christians. You’re lumping of terrorist organizations (Bin laden, Abu Sayaf) with nations/governments speaks of your simple-mindedness. I was talking about future potential Islaming government in Mindanao. They’ll probably go the way of homophobic legislative environment of even the most moderate Muslim government, that is, they will discriminate against homosexuals. With the exception of maybe Afghanistan (which is a terrorist state), Islamic government won’t “kill Christians” by policy.
“manuelbuencamino :Now when you start seeing gay symbols and other signs of gayness in mascots where there are actually none, it makes me wonder whether you are obsessed with gays and why.
August 20th, 2008 at 9:32 pm
Do you groove to Cher while playing with your barbies? Is “Strangers in the Night†a song about casual gay encounters?
August 20th, 2008 at 9:41 pm
I only mentioned it because I knew Manolo is gay. Nice work, on your gay-baiting diatribes – trying to lump me with homosexuals like it would be an insult if I were, like it’s a disease or something. You’re conveniently forgetting that your idol Manolo is gay. Imagine how he feels right now reading you’re homophobic comments.
Geisha : bka may madugong homo experience yang si pampangueno. share mo naman sa blog ko! heheheh
August 20th, 2008 at 10:06 pm
Gusto mong dugo? Dugong aso lang ang mahihigop sa Kapampangan na to ‘dre. I don’t go to a blog because of the blogger’s sexual orientation. I won’t discriminate either just because the blogger is day. I’ll read a blog if it feeds my intellect, meaning I won’t be visiting your blog anytime soon.
arpeelazaro : di kaya muslim extremist si pampangueno? so we will stop the speculation, pakilala ka. oh and by the way, if manolo hasn’t thanked you yet, your homophobia, hatred or whatever it is that you call it is generating wonderful hits for the website. thank you. your hate has done something good after all.
August 20th, 2008 at 10:45 pm
Manolo is gonna get hits irregardless because he writes brillian articles, though his television program needs some work.
For your benefit I’ll introduce myself – I’m the descendant of Kapampangan warriors who fought along side the Spaniards when they pacified Nueva Viscaya in 1591, Mindanao in 1596, Cagayan, Negros, Leyte and the Moluccas in the 1600′s. The same brave warriors who pacified the Chinese revolt and Koxinga invasion in 1662, Limahong in 1574, the British in 1764 and the Dutch in the 17th century. The same Kapampangans who equalled the Spanish soldiers in bravery (ever heard of the saying ‘one Spaniard and three Pampangans are the equal of four Spaniards?) and were handpicked by the Americans to pacify Mindanao (ever heard of the notorious Macabebe Scouts?).
Pakilala ka naman dudung.
number cruncher :
hmm, i wonder if pampangueno’s part of the plot to draw us away from the real issue at hand by baiting us into this whole carabao business….
August 21st, 2008 at 12:59 am
Like the government gives a flying fuc k about a few dumb conspiracy theorist on a semi-inglorious blog.
nash : mga klasmeyt, tinakot niyo naman si pampangueno…
August 21st, 2008 at 3:24 am
Just because I disappeared don’t mean I’m afraid of your Igorot ass. Unlike you I have a girlfriend and don’t have to spend most of my off-time taking snipes at random strangers in the interwebitube.
Pampangueno;
you wrote:
Not so fast JCC. It’s actually slow, you’re brain that is. It’s not official government policy of Iraq, Iran, or Saudi to kill Christians. You’re lumping of terrorist organizations (Bin laden, Abu Sayaf) with nations/governments speaks of your simple-mindedness. I was talking about future potential Islaming government in Mindanao. They’ll probably go the way of homophobic legislative environment of even the most moderate Muslim government, that is, they will discriminate against homosexuals. With the exception of maybe Afghanistan (which is a terrorist state), Islamic government won’t “kill Christians†by policy.
It is apparent that you do not read your newspapers and history…. “not as a matter of policy, but christian persecutons are tacilty approved in these regimes”.
i won’t answer your “ad hominem argument” because the best response to a cheap shot is silence and won’t elevate the discussion of my brain to your level.
guyito…
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/cyril/guyito.jpg
@ Pampangueno,
Why don’t you like me???
to J: … who commented Using Ninoy to mock someone else is just wrong. You’re making UP students look bad.
So What Will J </b< Do?
to J: … who commented Using Ninoy to mock someone else is just wrong. You’re making UP students look bad.
So What Will J Do?
UP n student:
“to J: … who commented Using Ninoy to mock someone else is just wrong. You’re making UP students look bad.
So What Will J Do?”
Think you’re dumb.
Whoa! The militia group think has infected the blog.
Or is it GMA taray way creep?
(For what it is worth depending on the sincerity and/or credibility of its reports) an entry in luwaran-dot-com states:
August 31, 2008 represents an important deadline (which luwaran-dot-com reports that the MILF leadership wants):
The IMT is the Malaysia-led International Monitoring Team.
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Luwaran-dot-com itself reports that MILF commanders take civilian hostages.
‘ever heard of the notorious Macabebe Scouts?’
The Macabebe Scouts who betrayed Aguinaldo?
I hope they’re in hell now.
Even the wicked commits bloopers that we enjoy.
‘Using Ninoy to mock someone else is just wrong’
I agree. It’s insulting to the guy being ridiculed..
jcc :It is apparent that you do not read your newspapers and history…. “not as a matter of policy, but christian persecutons are tacilty approved in these regimesâ€Â. i won’t answer your “ad hominem argument†because the best response to a cheap shot is silence and won’t elevate the discussion of my brain to your level.
August 22nd, 2008 at 8:04 pm
Oh I read the newspapers. I just don’t believe everything in it, unlike some gullible twats like yourself who buy into Fox’s and Rupert Murdoch’s neo-con anti-Islamic propaganda horseshit.
Question : WWJD?
Answer : think you’re dumb.
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hey, J, which Dead Sea Scroll gospel did you get that? Let me know so I can quote it, too.
‘Only way to peace is to sign MOA-AD’–MILF chief negotiator – INQUIRER.net
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20080822-156251/Only-way-to-peace-is-to-sign-MOA-AD–MILF-chief-negotiator
Too late the hero. Its poker talk, while themselves are preparing for war knowing that civilian militias in Lanao Del Norte, North Cotabato, and Zambonga have mobilized. Now, if the MILF leadership fail in Bravo and Cato,
Considering the other news reports,
Charter change clause in MOA ‘unconstitutional’–SC justice
Palace: No signing of MOA in present form
how can the MILF be that Banking on the doves Dureza and Esperon to save the day for them.?
It has been said that the war in Mindanao was a joint venture between the local warlords-politicians (Moro and Chrisitan), the AFP generals, and arms suplliers, (including the U.S. as well as local producer of Armalite automatic rifles). War is big business.
But its said that professional soldier, no-nonsense AFP COS Yano thinks and will act differently from his predecessor and mistah, PA Peace Adviser Esperon. While PGMA was still holding her taray presscon, the AFP started mop up operations, that’s why they have now quartered the area where the two commanders of the MILF renegade groups have retreated.
With Gen. Yano’s chairmanship , is it now time for a stockholder split ?
UP n student:
“hey, J, which Dead Sea Scroll gospel did you get that? Let me know so I can quote it, too.”
Uh…that is a really weak come back. Try again.
Scratch that, I’ve decided you to be a waste of my time.
If you still feel it imperative to reply…just imagine me laughing at you. Don’t lose sleep on this.
….a weak
come backcomebackPampangueno said:
“I give constructive criticims”
*Your efforts to appear to run a professional television program (suit, LCD display, use of English, great script) is marred by a prop that his its place on a little girl’s bedroom.
*Typical hyperbolic comment from a Filipino with the brain capacity of an indio.
*Another indio bobo.
*Like the government gives a flying fuc k about a few dumb conspiracy theorist on a semi-inglorious blog.
*Just because I disappeared don’t mean I’m afraid of your Igorot ass.
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yeah! i think i’ll have what he’s smoking.
Pampangueno:
you say to-mah-toh, we say it’s a myopic, detestable, biased, thoughtless attack.
a reckless disregard for the welfare of your fellow netizens does not make you an intellectual. it makes you a creep.
suck it up.
p.s. is there any chance you’re from lubao? ‘cos it will definitely explain a lot.
manolo please rein in your blog. much like the gloria’s enchanted kingdom, we’re going nowhere fast.
Pampangueno,
atleast I know now where you stand. you belong that group of peope who believe that the 911 incident that killed thousands of americans, jews, muslims and christians on those two towers were perpetrated by the CIA-Bush.
We can end our discussion, because apparently were are not on the same page. but i will not call you slow-put or hare-brained. we just have different outlook, and it is as simple as that. For all we know, your outlook is the best one.
not the macabebe troopers only. observe the 2010 elections. chairman melo is a kapampangan, but the macabebe blood could still linger, hope Pampangueno does not have their blood.
Pampangueno said:
“I only mentioned it because I knew Manolo is gay. …..You’re conveniently forgetting that your idol Manolo is gay….
WTF Pampangueno? So what if he is? What’s your point?
This is the live-in partner of guyito, the carabao teddy mascot (August 22nd, 2008 at 8:33 pm).
Imang, its still not not WTF. Pampagueno is still on topic. Berserkers!
Pampagueno hates teddy guyito because he has the hots for me. Can’t blame him. He says he has a girlfriend, but we are different. Especially gay carabaos.
And always, intellectual snobbery equals a small dick. All proteins and amino acids went to your brain and nothing was left for what really counts in a man.
Look down and tell me, am I right Pampangueno,?
So you will just have to blabber about the conquests of your great ancestors the blue-blooded Kapampangans. What a loser!
“ever heard of the notorious Macabebe Scouts?”….Pampangueno
Yes, all Filipinos remember the Macabebes in Tirad Pass and in Palanan, Isabela.
Pilipinoparin did not spell it out:
Macabebes = traydor = dugong aso.
And Pampagueno is still proud of his dugong aso. What a triple loser you are!!!
Thanks Karl (at 5:56 pm). I think as far as the local militias are concerned, the choice would either be to incorporate them to the regular armed forces chain of command or treat them like any other lost command. I agree the warlord situation in the Philippines is not yet at Somalia’s level but i think we’re nearer to them today than yesterday.
Arming civilians will not solve the problems in Mindanao or anywhere else on earth. Better to ban all firearms, they were made to kill people, that’s the only purpose of guns. All guns should be in the hands of AFP or any government recognized security entity. Disband all local private armies, political/Muslims /Christians including MNLF and MILF. Kris, pana, balisong or tabak won’t do much damage among warring parties.
Cairo Declaration on Human Rights in Islam
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ARTICLE 10:
Islam is the religion of unspoiled nature. It is prohibited to exercise any form of compulsion on man or to exploit his poverty or ignorance in order to convert him to another religion or to atheism.
ARTICLE 23:
(b) Everyone shall have the right to participate, directly or indirectly in the administration of his country’s public affairs. He shall also have the right to assume public office in accordance with the provisions of Shari’ah.
ARTICLE 24:
All the rights and freedoms stipulated in this Declaration are subject to the Islamic Shari’ah.
ARTICLE 25:
The Islamic Shari’ah is the only source of reference for the explanation or clarification of any of the articles of this Declaration.
<blockquote “not as a matter of policy, but christian persecutons are tacilty approved in these regimesâ€Â. jcc
jcc, I beg to disagree with your above statement. I don’t know what newspaper are you reading but what you’re talking must be part of history now. the killing of christians are not happening anymore much more tacitly approved in those regimes you mentioned.
PSI,
as I wrote earlier, arming civilians will just exacerbate the problem but I cannot speak for those people who were directly affected by the atrocities committed by the milf. we can’t blame them if that’s what they’re clamoring right now. but it’s the job of the govt to protect them.
as for davao, it’s generally peaceful and far from those war-torn areas. no need for cvo’s. there were some vigilante groups before but they fought the npa’s not mnlf/milf.
to grd and jcc:
to grd and jcc:
. . . . Last weekend (March 2008) saw the first Catholic church open in Qatar. Meanwhile, in Saudi Arabia, rather than facilitating similar freedoms for the large religious minorities in the country, leading Saudi clerics were busy curtailing the freedoms of Saudi writers.
In the brain-numbing intellectual environment of Saudi universities, muzzled press and censored bookshops, we rarely ever see dissent or creativity. . . . . And yet, occasional glimmers of hope shine on the horizon.
Saudi writers Yusuf Aba al-Khail and Abdullah bin Bejad al-Otaibi have started a rigorous debate inside Saudi Arabia about the right of Muslims to adopt other religions with impunity. Rather than address their strong scriptural and intellectual reasoning, a leading Saudi cleric has called for the writers’ deaths, unless they “repent”.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/mar/20/reforminriyadh
More on catholics in Saudi Arabia.
sumali ako at may ilink ako,baka nalimutan natin madaming pinoy sa 800,000 catholics sa saudi.
http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1723715,00.html?xid=feed-cnn-topics
http://www.pewsitter.com/view_news_id_7306.php
KG,
This is what i gathered from the link you have provided:
Top Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said that a Catholic parish in this key Islamic country would be “a historic achievement” in the push to expand religious freedom and foster a positive interfaith rapport. Under Benedict, the Catholic hierarchy has stepped up calls from its Muslim counterparts for “reciprocity,” demanding that the same religious freedom enjoyed by Muslims in the West should be granted to Christian minorities in the Islamic world. They note that Europe’s biggest mosque, built with Saudi funds, was opened in 1995 in Rome, just across the river from the Vatican.
It is only now that the Saudis are trying to liberalize its approach towards other faiths. Which confirms my previous post that in the past, christians faith are being tacitly discouraged by the Saudis. Iran has an intorelant about christians faith.
grd,
christians persecutions does not always mean killing the christians. there are more subtle ways of persecution like not allowing you to pray in public like the muslims do, dsitribute christians literature and disallowing gatherings for worship. some muslims countries are relaxing their policy towards inter-faiths, but up to what extent, that remains to be seen.
“”christians persecutions does not always mean killing the christians. there are more subtle ways of persecution like not allowing you to pray in public like the muslims do, dsitribute christians literature and disallowing gatherings for worship. some muslims countries are relaxing their policy towards inter-faiths, but up to what extent, that remains to be seen.” How a subjective becomes the objective criterion of reality. ”
Firstly, the Wahabists in Saudi Arabia are the most crazy of the crazies. The royal family had always been either captured or used this most crazy sect to assist them in their almost absolute rule in Saudi Arabia.
Almost like the shamans and or witch doctors.
Simply taking a cultural sect (that was politicized) that is predominant in one area of the Muslim world and making a general statement about them is wrong.
Another aspect recently that has come to the fore is the reversion of many of the pundits on this blog to revert to the tribal psyche that is still deeply embedded in the pinoy.
Another amazing thing is the fact that GMA was about to sign (through her DFA secretary) that MOA-AD in front of the world and now says that the same document that she was about to sign is flawed!!!!!!
She even tried to push it along by mentioning her stand on federalism (euphemism for shift to unicameral parliamentary system)
Yet some would argue that a certain journalist did a disservice to the pinoy nation internationally by exposing the Queen losing it…
Today we see her showing the world the pinoy version of “shock and awe” and we have they say 200K displaced persons from the intensified fighting.
That is twice the number in Georgia that the world is responding to.
So finally cha-cha is dead till after 2010.
Someone had better educate the government the difference between strategy and policy….and the military brass the difference between strategy and operations.
The policy was to allow armed men certain autonomy as a strategy to work towards peace. That was a given. The state even knows and describes certain factions of the MILF as “base commands”
Coordinated attacks have occurred from some of these commands. Now the state is responding versus the respective base commands with the largest shock and awe tactics for a long time.
It wants the heads of the two base commands. Is this a police action or a declaration of war?????
The criticism of the Russian response was disproportionate force.
Is GMA trying to counter her incompetence by unsheathing her sword???
Now the state has declared that no talks will continue unless those responsible be given up to face charges……
Wow, if the British demanded from Sinn Fein that they give up the bombers so peace talks would continue would there have been peace talks at all?????
Is there a brain at the top???????
These tribal mindset is still so predominant and thus the ideals of communities and nation is still so alien….
The people of Manila could not care less about those 200K people now forced to become internal refugees.
hvrds: How can use the term “… declaration of war” when the Govt-Pinas military action is against only two MILF commands — Commander Bravo’s MILF 102nd Base Command and Comm Kato’s MILF 105th Base Command. The two commanders Bravo and Kato assaulted civilian populations — village-burning, murder, use of civilian shields — without authorization from the MILF-BIAF General Staff Command.
The govt-Pinas is not taking action against the rest of the MILF/BIAF commanders.
if no one believes that the christians are being persecuted one way or another by the muslim worlds, you can click these links to find out:
http://www.christianpersecution.info/news/saudi-arabia-muslim-father-kills-daughter-for-converting-to-christianity-14592/
http://www.christianpersecution.info/news/iran-jailed-christian-in-critical-condition/
http://www.christianpersecution.info/news/iran-tortured-christian-flees/
this one you should read if you do not believe that christians are treated fairly in Muslim countries.
http://judeo-christianalliance.org/materials/ChristianPersecutedThroughoutTheMiddleEast.pdf
to grd: click here for “stuff” happening in Saudi Arabia…. has mention of Filipinos under threat of execution.
http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/middle-east-and-north-africa/west-gulf/saudi-arabia
http://www.islamicweb.com/begin/population.htm
Please note the number of Muslims around the world and the number in Saudi Arabia.
For followers of Christ and Mohammed
“My opinion is that there would never have been an infidel, if there had never been a priest. The artificial structures they have built on the purest of all moral systems, for the purpose of deriving from it pence and power, revolts those who think for themselves, and who read in that system only what is really there.”
-Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Mrs. Samuel H. Smith, August, 6, 1816
“In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.”
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Horatio G. Spafford, March 17, 1814
“History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.”
-Thomas Jefferson to Alexander von Humboldt, Dec. 6, 1813.
For the Koran as with the Bible
“The whole history of these books [the Gospels] is so defective and doubtful that it seems vain to attempt minute enquiry into it: and such tricks have been played with their text, and with the texts of other books relating to them, that we have a right, from that cause, to entertain much doubt what parts of them are genuine. In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man; and that other parts are of the fabric of very inferior minds. It is as easy to separate those parts, as to pick out diamonds from dunghills.”
-Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, January 24, 1814
But of course, I have made the assumption that you — grd — consider Amnesty International a reasonably-unbiased organization…. I mention this because I have encountered a couple of internet sites that assault the credibility of Amnesty International — “AmInternational is a puppet of the United Kingdom or of the CIA or of the Vatican”… or the worst insult — a French site!!!!.
I mean…. even reports by Russia, Japan, the UNICEF, Organization of American States or the United Nations Special Rapporteurs do not get 100% approval rating.
The Life of Women in War torn Mindanao:
A woman said, she did not know exactly why the war ensues but she has seen the war from her childhood until she left Mindanao only three years ago. She hears about the war that affects her family up to now. Although she does not know the root causes of the war, she know very well the effects of the consistent military operations in Mindanao. She sharply pointed out that the war hindered their livelihood and the development of Mindanao in general, especially in the outskirts where they live. She also symphatizes with her fellow civilian muslims who are harassed and arbitrarily arrested by the military.
Lastly, most children in war zones in Mindanao do not finish schooling because to the distraction caused by constant military operations in their place. Children in war zones do not experience normal schooling. They had to evacuate every time the war ensues. Most of the time, classes are suspended.
War on terrorism worsens the condition of women:
The women did not cite any sexual abuse experiences that went along the war on terrorism. However, it is striking that most women in war-torn Mindanao have opted to work abroad as domestic helpers for the survival of their families. This heightens the co modification of women doing such dirty jobs abroad.
http://untoldterritories.wordpress.com/2007/10/28/women-from-war-torn-mindanao/
The Philippines has had two female Presidents, and there are many more examples where Filipino women and let me say also, women from Mindanao have made contributions to national leadership.
Of course these achievements have come at too slow a pace. But we should not downplay or forget the crucial role that women have played over many years of commitment and hard work – often behind the scenes and unrecognized – to bring about change. Let Gloria do her Chacha…
Let us make believe
Memo to DILG Chief Puno and Gen Razon PNP Head.
The last few weeks we have seen men in uniform raising what appears to be high powered firearms and rocket propelled grenade launchers on prime time TV…
They were all screaming in Arabic God is Great!!!!! I do not know if the TV reporter and cameramen were actually conducting the shouting exercises to make their report more menacing.
My question is this? Can any group also acquire these type of weapons and display them before Korina and Karen to make a point???
What about licensing???? Are Philippines laws being enforced on every inch of Philippine territory or not???
Would it best simply to remove any regulation on the right to bear arms in this country since there is a different rule for certain groups??
They even have their own camps…..
Would the MILF be more like Hamas, Hezbollah and the PLO???? They all have de facto sovereign control over certain territory.
The NPA, IRA is and was an underground movement.
You seem to be confused and we are also all so so confused.
There are crazies on both sides that would like to dress this up as a holy war…. You know jihad…. One side has already started to call their armed component mujahadeen.
The other side apparently would like to organize along tribal lines…..
The Americans down there are most probably assisting you in targeting these so called mujahadeen.
You are also well aware that the Americans armed the Sunni tribes in occupied Iraq to counter Al Qaeda. Iraq is now effectively partitioned into three sections.
Are you moving to annihilate the problem or simply wait out your terms for the next year and so many months??
Your boss has given the so called mujahadeen notice that they have to disarm and demobilize first before talking.
Does this mean that no more talking with armed groups???? What if the other side refuses?
“The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.” T. Jefferson
We say we are a constitutional republic (Magno says we are).
The Supreme Court is in effect tied down by the chains of the constitution in theory.
The Queen recently declared that the peace process must conform to the chains of the constitution.
She probably knows that the SC will pointedly remind the executive that everything it does must conform to those chains.
The intent to break those chains (cha-cha) not withstanding.
There is no question that the state of constitutionalism in the country is at its weakest since Ferdinand and Imelda.
Come on Big Mike, GMA and the rest – make our day by pushing the breaking of the chains of the constitution.
The MILF started it with GMA’s approval. She was supposed to sign that agreement in our name.
HAHAHAHAHA. Obvious na obvious. Si Pampagueno is a HOMO!!! Haha. Why can’t you admit it? Tinira mo pa si Manolo e wala namang problema yung tao sa kanyang sexuality.
Libertarian ka? E talo mo pa si George Bush sa pagka-A–Hole!
a 105mm howitzer is NOT a 105caliber piece.
Makes sense that GovtPinas uses 105mm artillery using HE shells to provide fire-support for infantry against Kato or Bravo’s soldiers (who, when in camps, will be massed in fixed positions.) And Kato and Bravo have soldiers, not girlie cheerleaders. Kato and Bravo’s soldiers use deadly-effective weapons, not tiradors.
MILF camp falls; 30 killed – Inquirer
- Biggest air strike launched in a decade
- MILF: no renegotiation: ready for war
- Palace MOA stand: more clarifications
- Cebu Muslim community to help flush out rebels, terrorists
- 220,000 displaced by Mindanao conflict — WFP
“SHARIFF AGUAK, Maguindanao, Philippines  Backed by the biggest aerial bombardment in nearly a decade, government forces Friday drove out Moro rebels from one of their camps in Maguindanao province,”
From taray show to Rambo. “Defend every inch of Philippine terrritory. “
However, if the MILF BIAF (Bangsamoro Islamic Armed Forces) headquarters central strips Kato and Bravo of their commands (and puts new commanders to head the MILF 102nd Base Command and 105th Base Command) my thinking is that the Malaysian monitoring team should arrange an immediate ceasefire.
to M14: no declaration of war….. Govt-Pinas has not sent out any military force against the MILF Darapanan camp in Shariff Kabunsuan province.
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to windage knob: YES, the fighting has to stop. If only the clock can be turned back and Kato and Bravo did not throw a berserk-stupid tantrum.
Constitution
Article VI
Section 23. (1) The Congress, by a vote of two-thirds of both Houses in joint session assembled, voting separately, shall have the sole power to declare the existence of a state of war.
Article VII
Section 18. The President shall be the Commander-in-Chief of all armed forces of the Philippines and whenever it becomes necessary, he may call out such armed forces to prevent or suppress lawless violence, invasion or rebellion…
but here is food for thought : that this time around, it is Govt-Pinas that is militarily stronger.
— The MILFcan still be a lethal force (as a terrorist organization, as Kato and Bravo demonstrated) but the many years of negotiations has led to a decline in its battlefield readiness, training, and clandestine weapons acquisitions. The MILF have never had a steady supply of
weaponry, a situation that is all the more acute today.
— the training and intelligence provided by the detachment of some 200 U.S. Special Forces has improved the Govt-Pinas military overall capabilities.
—The AFP is a more disciplined and restrained force as well, unlikely to engage in the scorched-earth policies and human rights abuses of the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s. Recall the MILF-ASG beheading of ten Marines in July 2007. The Marines not only did not do scorched-earth retaliattions; they stepped up their civic action in the community.
Effective ata artillery nang military ngayon. Siguro wala nang bayaran.
For disarmament, we need a military solution in Mindanao. Bases should be put up and police personnel recruited. Mahirap dito eh maski taasan nang gobyerno sweldo nang pulis sa mindanao kukupitan pa rin sila.
In the early stages, capture all MILF camps and reclaim as much territory. When they’re ready to talk ceasefire, create buffer or security zones where AFP troops will remain. Don’t accept any terms about returning to original positions. That’s how Russia pummeled Georgia.
PSI,
You’re talking like a real armchair general. In the first place, you’re equating the AFP to the Russian juggernaut. The AFP does not have the resources available to the Russian armed forces. Second, why create buffer zones? Are we ready to recognize the MILF as a belligerent?
Jaxius,
No, I’m not an ‘armchair ganeral’. I’m an online war freak. Duh!
PSI,
It figures.
@ Jaxius,
War is never good. But we must be prepared to fight a just war. I believe this is the situation with the MILF.
Humankind was never the same since a Genesis man murdered his brother. The oldest professions are prostitutes and soldiers.
But you and and peacenik cvj have the same sound bites . I may be war freak, but I I’m for real. Double duh!!
PSI,
What soundbite?
There is a rebellion. There is no war. Do you know the difference?
The MILF are not belligerents. They are criminals. Again, do you know the difference? Belligerents are treated under the laws of war. Criminals, under our laws.
As such, what is required is not war but police action. Not everything that the AFP does is warfighting.
Capisce?
Jaxius,
OMG! Such naivette!
In the real world , first you fight, conquer, and then talk peace. Then, we classify whether its war, just war, belligerency, police action, etc. Are you the adviser of the peace panel that got us into this trouble in the first place?
Such textbook approach will win now war. Triple capisce!!!
“So finally cha-cha is dead till after 2010.”-hvrds
How naive! Those people will never stop their evil scheme until their last breath.
I still have the opinion that the MILF chain-of-command is badly splintered. This splinter has resulted in the current carnage (Kato and Bravo disrespected the MILF central leadership when Kato and Bravo on their attacked).
Kato and Bravo also acted as bandits and not as military men. Had Kato and Bravo attacked ONLY a Govt-of-Pinas military base — had it been only Govt-of-Pinas soldiers (and Cafgus) that Kato and Bravo murdered — they could have a claim to “…soldier-against-soldier” and the Malaysian monitoring team would have reason to suggest to Malacanang to desist from escalation. But Kato and Bravo attacked civilian villages and killed civilians in their act of berserk-stupid tantrum. Kato and Bravo are terrorist BANDITS. As luwaran-dot-com (MILF central command website) reports, The MILF leadership had already ordered the Bangsamoro Islamic Armed Forces (BIAF) commanders and forces, particularly Commander Umbra Kato and Commander Bravo, to restraint from further engaging the government forces, in words and actions, which would adversely affect the peace process between the MILF and the government..
The hopes for a ceasefire is still there because the MILF center is holding. Kato and Bravo are being isolated even by the BIAF-central-headquarters who asks other MILF commanders to not engage govt-Pinas troops.
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As one reads the news coming out of Mindanao, one should differentiate between Kato and Bravo and the actions of MILF-central headquarters.
Kato and Bravo need to be separated from their commands and from being able to give orders to hundreds of MILF soldiers (who may not understand that following Kato and Bravo’s orders results in damage to the Mindanawans’ dream for peace and prosperity.)
Kato and Bravo need to be separated from their commands. Whether they go directly to a Govt-of-Pinas jail, an MILF-central-headquarters jail, to a European hospital for a medical check-up or even to a fact-finding mission in Ethiopia —- it will help Kabalu and MILF chairman Al Haj Murad Ebrahim if Kato and Bravo are separated from their commands.
this is a good time for an ambitious MILF-captain or light-colonel to stage a mini-coup and depose Kato and Bravo , not for the money reward, but to further the cause of peace. It is not insubordination because deposing Kato and Bravo is consistent with the orders from MILF Chairman Murad Ebrahim. .
My loyalty to my battallion commander ends where my loyalty to my chain-of-command begins.
My loyalty to my battalion commander ends where my loyalty to peace for my people begins.
“Barack has chosen Senator Joe Biden to be our VP nominee. Watch the first Obama-Biden rally live at 3pm ET on http://www.BarackObama.com. Spread the word!†The famous text message .
ay talo na si Obama.
Biden who? Which part of the demographics does this pander to?
The equalizer,
i don’t care about Muslim Obama. His foundation cannot be ignored. US will be heading in the wrong direction with Obama. Obama if elected will not last long and Joe Biden will become President…
I can tell that HVRDS is a brainwasher.
Biden is an over-50 white male — Roman Catholic but pro-choice with the seniority and foreign relations credentials that Obama lacks. He is the Chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations in the 110th Congress. Biden has served in that position in the past, and he has served as Chairman of the U.S. Senate Committee on the Judiciary.
@pampangueno
“If I were as dumb as you I’d be bringing my toy truck and GI Joe’s on the office meeting.”
I’m happy to be called dumb by you. I guess you are a genius.
And if you should know, I DO bring my plushies to the office meeting.