One Day More

Listen to “One Day More.”

Labanan ang Katiwalian at Kasinungalian.

 

Itaguyod ang Katotohanan.

 

It is time to be COUNTED!

 

Join us at the Friday Inter-Faith Prayer Rally

 

Ayala cor. Paseo de Roxas — 4:00 to 8:00 PM

 

Where former President Cory Aquino and Jun Lozada will join us as we make the call for Truth and Accountability.

 

Black and White Movement, together with Hyatt 10/La Salle 60, MBC, MAP, Manindigan,

and other professional and church groups will assemble at the

AIM (Paseo de Roxas) Parking lot at 3:00 PM.

 

Please join us.

 

Sa Totoo Tayo. Now Na!

Today there will be people from all walks of life and different generations and varying political and non-political persuasions, coming together to make a stand.

It’s unfortunate that the focus on Makati will obscure the efforts being made elsewhere in the country. Whether a rally in Cebu City, or elsewhere, the only divide I see is between urban and rural Filipinos: though the majority, for some time now, of Filipinos are urban dwellers. I strongly believe the sentiments among urban Filipinos are converging while rural opinion won’t be far behind.

Returning to today’s rally, the authorities are pulling out all the stops: PNP renews warning about communists, terrorists at rally. They’re spooked.Yesterday, something remarkable happened at PUP, see: PUP bomb threat fails to stop Lozada. And something else happened, see: Dirty Tricks in Uniffors.

But two bloggers say it best.

Market Manila declares he will be there:

Because we live in a democracy by choice. Because not speaking up when you know something is wrong makes you an accomplice to the wrong. Because I think everyone must be held accountable for their actions, particularly where their actions impact the welfare of millions. Because of the increasingly brazen disregard for the laws and even basic ethics that should apply to educated individuals. Because in many ways, I am embarrassed to be in the same gene pool as those who are perpetrating and then possibly getting away with such outrageous actions. Because of dozens of other reasons I will keep to myself as I know you get the point.

A reply he gives to a commenter is zeroes in on the issues even more:

mapster, I agree that we have to do everything we can everyday. I pay my taxes and a LOT of them. I have never ever slipped a policeman lunch money. I have voted with a conscience and watched at the polls. I have volunteered services for politicians or candidates which I thought rose above the rest, and I have never accepted any gifts, compensation or positions for the effort. So yes, I think we have to do our daily bit. But I also used to believe that we had a high corruption rate because we were poor… and that somehow the petty corruption of the streets and licenses, etc. were a function of poverty. But that is simply not true. The folks who are implicated in multi-billion scandals are well to do, and as someone above says, how much money do they need to live a decent and comfortable life? And the Hello garci scandal was offensive precisely because it suggests that the elections themselves are rigged, hence the votes of the people are ignored. At the very least, we have to indicate a great deal of displeasure and let everyone know they can’t get away with these kinds of behaviors.

As for being in the company of crooks and wannabees as some intimate above, I think in all democracies people from all walks of life will band together for similar causes, though they all may not look, sound, or be the same. While some of the folks who will be there at the rally this afternoon are opportunists and perhaps not folks I would normally look up to, many others could or should be every day folks who simply want to say, TAMA NA! And while I am not the biggest of Cory fans, I think she IS someone to look up to and her presence is only one of the minor reasons I would show up this afternoon.

I agree with other sentiments about changing the system et al. But I would agree more that we need to change the people on a massive scale with folks that really want to do the BEST for their country, a noble and difficult scenario, I concur.

As for others, you are definitely entitled to your opinion and free to choose what you will, can or want to do. With Marcos it took 20 years to reach the “boiling point.” In subsequent administrations the flare ups occurred with less time required. But at some point, when we all are personally so incensed or affected directly, you too will feel the need to do something.

If you re-read the post above, I would like to point out that I only said that I WOULD BE GOING. Not that I thought all of you should as well, that is obviously your choice.

Touched By An Angel says,

Though not a popular choice by our Catholic Bishops, I believe, GMA has to go. Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo has to go.

I truly believe that The President and her people have engaged in so much lying that they can no longer recognize the truth even if it stared them in the face. (PDI) As to the next step to take, I will take one step, one day at a time. I do not have the answers yet but in time, I will discern it. Our Filipinos will discern it. I will be there at the The Interfaith rally…

Among young people, there will be those, like on a red day who will be there, as will Tristan’s Mental Assylum ristan’s Mental Assylum and Jamel Ignes who is attending a rally for the first time! (for the religious, see melo touch). Other young people share their views, and efforts at discernment: a slice of wine.. and a shot of cake.. points out the dividing line and respects those who have decided to speak up against the President. There are others who are still uncertain, yet watchful, like Prudence and Mandess, and such as student Timmyland or who remain ambivalent, who will not go but who will be keeping those gathered in their thoughts, see OFW jihAn.zillA. Sh, and Yeweifang’s blog .

Among more senior bloggers, Red’s Herring puts everything in perspective:

If the events that have led to People Power I (EDSA Revolution of 1986 or EDSA I) are any guide, revolutionary uprisings go through certain levels (of consciousness): First, the underlying belief by a sizeable segment of society that the rulers and certain institutional arrangements have lost legitimacy; second, certain intense participants or change agents have gotten around their sense of powerlessness and come to realize they have the power or capacity to effect the needed changes; third, the disaffected members of society have more or less formed a consensus as to the nature and or scope of the changes they desire to occur in lieu of the illegitimated rulers or arrangements, whether be it about a total systemic overhaul, a “regime change,” an extra-constitutional overthrowing of a corrupt or immoral government, etc.

My sense is that People Power III has already reached the first and second levels of consciousness described above. However, before the Great Beast “could take care of itself” today it has yet to hurdle the third level of consciousness.

For one, I have noted even the reformists in the military and the progressives in the civil society are still tentative about the scope and the nature of the changes to be sought (note should also be taken for instance that the mere suggestion during the Manila Peninsula “uprising” that a military junta was being contemplated has not sit well with potential supporters), while other veteran people power practitioners are apprehensive the next exercise “could again end up repeating a vicious cycle of simply ‘moving on’ in circle, and not leaping onward or to a higher ground” or a “new qualitative state.”…

…Now, the question once again: Why is People Power III taking its time?

My own take is: There is yet no general consensus among potential people power participants and activists, as has been in EDSA I or EDSA II, as to what change to aspire for and institute.

Arguably, proposals for reforms or transformations, at odds with each other for the most part, still abound. To cite a few: some who believe the two EDSAs were both a failure aim this time to act against a failed system and plan to overhaul it either according to some rigid ideologies or based merely on the “best practices” of ongoing successful experiments; other groups are just angry and frustrated because of “relative deprivation” (middle class weighed upon with a looming downgrade to the next class complain how come only their counterparts in other regions are having all the fun); still others are focused only on struggling for control of the state apparatuses and effecting “regime change” while keeping both the political and economic structure intact; and specifically, accused coup leader and now detained senator Sonny Trillanes is eager to transform the nation “without reinventing the wheel” or whereas Bishop Francisco Claver can only entertain the belief that “our problem comes down to this: how to correct the aberration that is the present administration without destroying the stabilizing structure that is our democratic system of government.”

…As a result, reactionary moves from old and once reliable alliances, the CBCP in particular, are silently taking place in the form of tokenism (a plea to President Arroyo to take lead in the fight against corruption) and diversion (a call for a new brand of People Power through “communal action”).

Mon Casiple on the part of the political pundits, observes,

The nature and circumstances of this political crisis is such that it can only have one resolution: the end of the Arroyo regime within the context of the existing electoral democracy. From there, it may result in the affirmation of this electoral democracy and thus the integrity of the 2010 elections. Or, more remote, it may lead to the ending of the electoral democracy itself. At any rate, these are the days of reckoning.

The people’s consciousness and readiness to action are developing by leaps and bounds. The usual tactics by the GMA administration are not working anymore and proved to be ironically pushing faster the momentum for change. From the JDV triumphal ouster to its present travails, the Arroyo administration has rapidly traversed a half-circle towards a downward spiral.

What’s Casiple referring to? I can only guess, but think of this. Did you notice the article, 52 governors troop to Palace to show support for Arroyo ? A friend encountered one of these governors on a plane bound for Manila, and the governor prattled on about how he was going to Manila on business -only for my friend to see the governor on TV lurking near the edge of the gathered governors. Said my friend: you see, they’ve begun to get embarrassed over their support for the President (the governor knew my friend’s an oppositionist; but a mere month ago, the governor would needle my friend and crow about the President every chance he got). And the news leaves an even bigger question hanging: what of the other 29 governors?

Recall that one of the officials proclaimed a convenor of the Loyalist rally in Manila on Feb. 25 pointedly told the media, “oh, I’m in Manila doing shopping.”

While Amando Doronila notices that:

Speaking to a joint meeting of the Makati Business Club, Management Association of the Philippines and PinoyME Foundation last Feb. 26, Aquino did not make a pitch for another People Power uprising, to the disappointment of many people. She merely called on President Arroyo to step down, saying it was the least disruptive way out of the “severe moral crisis” facing the country. She said, “She must give way to a credible government that could lead by example. Given our concern to protect the moral pillars of democracy, the extra-constitutional removal of the President is not an ideal we would want to aspire for.”

Aquino’s call for restraint was echoed by the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines, which in a pastoral statement on Feb. 26, called on the President to allow her officials to tell the truth about the slew of allegations of corruption related to several government transactions, but fell short of demanding her resignation. Instead, the bishops urged the President to be “part of the effort” to seek the truth.

The coyness of Aquino and the disappointing position of the bishops restraining people power highlighted the departure from the dynamics of 1986, when Aquino rode the crest of a forceful people power movement driven by the activist archbishop of Manila, Jaime Cardinal Sin, and the mass civilian participation in street protests in support of the military mutiny led by Marcos’ Defense Minister Juan Ponce Enrile and Constabulary chief, Lt. Gen. Fidel Ramos.

Today’s configuration has lost the fervor for mass action of 1986. It tells us that today’s movement is not based on mass action to bring pressure on the key support institutions of government to defect, such as the military and the bureaucracy. Today’s movement has changed emphasis. It has shifted its cutting edge from confrontation in the streets to bringing moral pressure on government. The shift is not exerting a powerful pressure on government officials to step down. It emboldens them to stonewall.

Though as the Inquirer editorial today points out,

We realize that, in itself, the language of the recommendation (“Urge the President and all the branches of government to take the lead in combating corruption wherever it is found”) seems to be neutral. But in the present context, it actually disregards a fundamental reality. In the scandal over the National Broadband Network, the President and her men have been less than forthright in telling the truth. That, in fact, is one of the reasons we have a crisis in the first place.

Apropos of the bishops, read An Open Letter to the CBCP at Brown SEO.

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    • Silent Waters on February 29, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    An excerpt from the column of Amb. Ernie Maceda

    “Politicians now welcome. The Black and White Movement’s exclusive “no politicians allowed” policy for today’s Ayala Rally was rejected by other organizations when Makati City Mayor Jojo Binay threatened to pull out of the rally. Binay said “I am a politician, so exclude me too. Former President Cory is a politician, and so was Ninoy and now Noynoy. I am out and you can build your own stage.”

    By the way, who are members of the Black and White Movement? We only see Vicente Romano and Leah Navarro. Maybe they should release the list of their members and explain who are black, who are white and who are gray.

    Maybe the Black and White Movement can stage a rally exclusively by itself and show any attendees it can gather. UNO and the politicians have proven several times we can gather 20,000 anytime.”

    This is the reason why I am so wary of joining the rallies.

    • manuelbuencamino on February 29, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    “This is the reason why I am so wary of joining the rallies.” -Ernesto Maceda, Trapo

    Well, that’s great news motherfucker!

    • manuelbuencamino on February 29, 2008 at 1:12 pm

    Tonight the pro Gloria rallyists will celebrate mass and all that at the welcome rotunda. I will drop by that rally after the Makati rally so I can take pictures and listen to the homily of their priest.

    • manuelbuencamino on February 29, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    the expletivw was not addressed to you silent waters. it was addressed to maceda, a trapo who can make gloria and mike look honest and respectable by comparison

    • Silent Waters on February 29, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    Mr.Buencamino

    For somebody who claims to be a diplomat (in your previous blog commenatries), you certainly have colorful language.

    • Silent Waters on February 29, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    Mr. Buencamino,

    I think you still should not have used such colorful language.

    I am just telling you that this is one of the reason why these rallies do not prove anything to ME yet. Kasi mga trapo ang nandiyan. Even Erap, if I did not misunderstand the news, is going to be there. Mr. Lacson is also going to be there. Baka naman mabalik lang sa kanila ang kapangyarihan, if not in form, in substance.

    • Silent Waters on February 29, 2008 at 1:20 pm

    ALso, I think you misunderstood the excerpt. Mr. Maceda is telling people to join the rallies. I am saying I don’t want to join as politicians will be there. Hakot lang nila rin. Padamihan lang ng hakot ang pinagmamalaki niya.

    • BrianB on February 29, 2008 at 1:23 pm

    manuel,

    Maybe you should leave the profanities to me.

    • BrianB on February 29, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    What’s wrong with the site, the borders have been removed. Manolo, please embed the youtube video again. delete the code first and re-embed.

    • Jeg on February 29, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    SilentW, who cares if politicians will be there? Ano talaga laman ng puso mo? Yun ang sundin mo. Wala nang paki kung ano man ang ginagawa ng mga nasa labas ng puso mo, kesyo politician man sila o nagtitinda ng taho.

    • BrianB on February 29, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    The difficulty of mass rallies today and the deliberate method in which critical mass is achieved should be a lesson to civil society and all concerned citizens. EDSA may not be dead but it’s getting difficult. We have only one option, the politicians have several and, obviously, Gloria has been educated by the mistakes made by Erap.

    • magdiwang on February 29, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    An excerpt from the column of Amb. Ernie Maceda

    “Politicians now welcome. The Black and White Movement’s exclusive “no politicians allowed” policy for today’s Ayala Rally was rejected by other organizations when Makati City Mayor Jojo Binay threatened to pull out of the rally. Binay said “I am a politician, so exclude me too. Former President Cory is a politician, and so was Ninoy and now Noynoy. I am out and you can build your own stage.”

    By the way, who are members of the Black and White Movement? We only see Vicente Romano and Leah Navarro. Maybe they should release the list of their members and explain who are black, who are white and who are gray.

    Maybe the Black and White Movement can stage a rally exclusively by itself and show any attendees it can gather. UNO and the politicians have proven several times we can gather 20,000 anytime.”

    This is the reason why I am so wary of joining the rallies.

    I really feel bad for the Black and White Movement if Mr Maceda is to be believed on what he wrote. I mean B&W have very good intentions in promoting good governance. I guess sometimes reality trumps idealism. Philippine politics is so dirty that if you want to dabble on it, you sometimes have to compromise certain principles.

    • Silent Waters on February 29, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    Jeg

    I have learned my lesson. Paulit ulit na lang ito, tanggal palit, tanggal palit. Kahit sino ilagay mo riyan, ganun pa rin. Ginawa na natin kay Marcos, Kay Erap at ngayon kay Gloria. Panahon lang ni FVR nanahimik ang bansa natin.

    Kung palagay ninyo, dapat tanggalin, kayo ang bahala. Pero nakikini-linita ko na na hindi ito ang huling pangulo matatanggal dahil sa people power…dahil ang iluluklok din diyan, pulitiko rin.

    Lahat ng mga taong ilinukluk na inakala nating idealistic nung nasa labas pa sila ng kulambo..ano nangyari??? Si Tiglao, Si Defensor, Si Neri….

    Bakit di na lang kaya kayo ang tumakbo sa puwesto. Tignan din natin kung gaano kayong tatagal sa pagiging malinis..

    Peace

    • Jeg on February 29, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    Bakit di na lang kaya kayo ang tumakbo sa puwesto. Tignan din natin kung gaano kayong tatagal sa pagiging malinis..

    Haha. SW, naunahan mo ako. Yun sana ang imumungkahi ko sa ‘yo. Hayaan mo, si Atty Lacierda hinihimok si MLQ3 na tumakbo. Malay mo.

    Ayoko sana’ng mag-benign0 pero kung ayaw natin ng politiko, bakit politiko ang binoboto natin? Sa susunod na halalan, kung wala tayong makitang hindi-politiko, tama lamang na ilagay sa balota, “wala”.

    Naalala ko dati may magandang mungkahi si MLQ3 na mga gobernador at mayor ang tumayong Kongresista, pero tignan mo, mga gobernador at mayor ngayon ang isa sa mga pinaka-haligi ni GMA.

    Kaya lalong mas kailangan natin ng People Power, o ang pagpapalakas ng taong-bayan. Para matakot sa atin ang mga hinalal natin. Unti-unti, kaya yan. Kung pagod ka na sa paulit-ulit, pahinga ka muna. Kakailanganin ka namin sa susunod.

    • Diego Torres on February 29, 2008 at 2:14 pm

    I will be at Ayala and these is my wish list:

    1. Arroyo must go;
    2. Noli can go, too;
    3.

    • Diego Torres on February 29, 2008 at 2:15 pm

    3. If Noli stays, the Comelec must be overhauled/revamped;
    4. Judiciary next;
    5. Bureucracy ratinoalized;

    • grd on February 29, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    Kaya lalong mas kailangan natin ng People Power, o ang pagpapalakas ng taong-bayan. Para matakot sa atin ang mga hinalal natin. Unti-unti, kaya yan. Kung pagod ka na sa paulit-ulit, pahinga ka muna. Kakailanganin ka namin sa susunod… jeg

    ganyan din lang naman pala ang gusto mo di gawin natin tanggalin na lang ang halalan. idaan na lahat sa people power total mukhang hindi ka naman napapagod. tingnan mo ang mga kasamang personalidad na bumubuo ng people power ngayon sila yung napeople power noon o natanggalan ng poder. ika nga ni silent paulit-ulit lang yan. it’s a cycle. so maige talaga idaan na sa people power ang pagpili ng lider. sigurado pang matino ang mapipili dahil matatalino ang pumili. sa halalan may dayaan pa at maraming botante ang bobo at nabibili.

    • Jon Mariano on February 29, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    SW, palitan na lang natin si Gloria ng kahit sino. Si Gloria wala nang chance magbago, ang ipapalit sa kanya meron pa di ba? I don’t buy the argument na lahat lahat sila ay pareho lang naman kaya huwag na lang palitan si Gloria. I will take a chance on somebody new.

    • tonio on February 29, 2008 at 2:33 pm

    yup. hell, i’d even go with ColdKing for president. he’d be crazy enough to kill the corrupt people in government. just give him enough guns and bombs.

    • Jon Mariano on February 29, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    grd, sino na ba ang natanggal sa pamamagitan ng people power? Di ba si Marcos at si Erap pa lang naman? Sino ba sa dalawang ito ang naibalik sa pwesto, di ba wala naman?

    At saka, ano na ba ang mga lessons learned natin sa People Power? We can use those lessons if ever Gloria si gone! If you don’t like Gloria, then ask her to go. Doing nothing right now means that you want her to stay. That’s your choice and that’s fine. If somebody else’s choice is to join the call for her to resign, then that’s fine too, di ba?

    • grd on February 29, 2008 at 2:36 pm

    I will be at Ayala and these is my wish list:

    1. Arroyo must go;
    2. Noli can go, too;
    3.

    o, kita nyo gusto nyong matanggal si gloria tapos yung legal na papalit ayaw nyo rin. dapat talaga idaan na sa people power lahat para masunod lahat ng gusto nyo. isama na rin yung sa mga lokal na pamunuan.

    • mindanaoan on February 29, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    Jon Mariano : I will take a chance on somebody new. and your neighbor prefers another somebody new, and another neighbor insists on somebody old like erap, and so on and so forth. perfect formula for chaos.

    • Jeg on February 29, 2008 at 2:41 pm

    ganyan din lang naman pala ang gusto mo di gawin natin tanggalin na lang ang halalan.

    Pwede rin yan. Di naman talaga kailangan ng demokrasya ang halalan. Kaso madami na tayo kaya nga representative democracy ang napiling paraan. Kaso marami pang problema na di naman siguro lingid sa kaalaman ng lahat.

    so maige talaga idaan na sa people power ang pagpili ng lider.

    May mas maayos na paraan sa pagpili ng lider. Pero tingin ko nasa tama kang landas. Kailangan lang maayos ng konti para lahat ng tinig maririnig, hindi lang yung maimpluwensiya. Marami talagang problema ang universal suffrage sa panig nating botante, at ng paraan ng pagkwalipika sa panig ng mga tumatakbo, i.e., kailangan marami kang pera.

    total mukhang hindi ka naman napapagod

    Ano, superman?

    (By the way, all of the above are neither here nor there. Tingin ko sa comment mo, grd, red herring e. Ang topic kasi namin ni Silent ay ang pagsali ng politiko sa rally. Sani niya ayaw niya, sabi ko wala akong pakialam kung gusto din nilang umatend.)

    • Kabayan on February 29, 2008 at 2:42 pm

    Wonder what happened to this new blog format, naka align-center lahat, medyo nakakahilo, hope that it’s not only in my computer. Noticed that Ellensville’s blog comments cannot be accessed, hmm, hope its temporary.

    In any case, in several hours I’ll leave these fascinating analysis to you guys; got to do what one has got to do. 😉

    • grd on February 29, 2008 at 2:46 pm

    jon mariano,

    may sinasabi ba akong ayaw kong palitan si gloria? hindi ba ang sabi ko para maganda at masunod ang gusto natin idaan na lahat sa people power ang pagpipipili ng mga lider?

    sino na ba ang natanggal o nais natin tanggalin pa sa pamamagitan ng people power? after ni marcos at maliban kay cory na namuno sa isang transisyon na pamahalaan si ramos lang ang hindi na people power. sige nga sabihin mo sa akin kung ano ang trend.

    • Lee on February 29, 2008 at 2:48 pm

    Ang hirap makapasok sa blog mo! Bakit kaya? Dirty tricks na naman ba ito. O sya see you in Ayala.

    • tonio on February 29, 2008 at 2:51 pm

    kabayan:

    i think manolo’s tech people haven’t finished adapting his template to the new version of wordpress.

    • grd on February 29, 2008 at 2:56 pm

    jeg, i was responding to your 1:46pm post na reply kay SW 1:39pm post. clearly, your topic of discussion is not anymore about those politicans joining the rally but about people power at tangggalan ng lider.

    • Jeg on February 29, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    jeg, i was responding to your 1:46pm post…

    Ah, but the 1:46 post isnt about tanggalan at all if youll notice. It’s about politicos and people power as it has always been. (People power isnt just about tanggalan. Teka, baka yun nga ang akala ng mga tao; that PP is just about tanggalan.)

    Anyway, I’ll be off in a bit. Thanks, grd.

    • grd on February 29, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    jeg,

    tungkol naman sa pagpipili ng mga local leaders through people power, why not? kung kaya natin mag-organize ng people power sa national level why not in the local level? total naman palagi na rin tayo naloloko ng mga local representatives natin. di idaan na rin sa people power ang pagpili sa mga yan. that way, if pumalpak sila sa kongreso mapalitan kaagad. palagay ko puede naman sigurong maayos eto at maeliminate yung maraming problema na sinasabi mo. tayo naman ang nagimbento ng people power so walang karapatan ang ibang nasyon na humusga sa atin katulad ng sinasabi ni gloria na “the world will not forgive another edsa people power”.

  1. lagi sinasabi ng palasyo wla na daw intest publiko sa rally—eh kng hindi ba naman sila gunggong eh pinahaharang nila mga gzto pumunta sa rally. tanga talaga!

    kalmado daw sila ngayon eh kng alam ko lng nagpapanik na sila eh at naiihi na sa mga pantalon nila HAHAHA!

  2. “My family has never made money illegally, much less made money from government. My father has always steered clear of any action that might even cast doubt on my mother’s integrity.”Luli Arroyo

  3. Bakit di na lang kaya kayo ang tumakbo sa puwesto. Tignan din natin kung gaano kayong tatagal sa pagiging malinis..

    silent, have you heard the quote:

    “Those who are truly fit to hold power are those who do not desire it.”

    re B&W policy of no politicians, i think it’s a commendable policy. if we would give up our idealism, what would make us different from the folks we want to remove? yes it is hard, but setting the bar high is the only way to get others to aspire for the same standards. in fact, this policy is even more effective.

    it screens out the opportunists, and identifies the genuine people really wanting change. even if that rally reach only small numbers, it’s identifying who your real allies (and those with the same principles as you) that would really prove important in the long run. achieving critical mass would just happen some day.

    as for not attending bec opportunists are present? why not make it: attend so that opportunists won’t be able to hijack the change?

    this goes with same argument as not voting. di ako boboto kasi ganon din lang naman, pare-pareho sila.

    disengaging from the system only makes it worse. participating doesn’t make it better INSTANTLY, but at least it gives us the fighting CHANCE we need.

    this is also the same with the thinking: dito na rin ako magtatapon ng basura, lahat naman ginagawa eh.

    why follow hive mentality? do some things and make decisions based on what your heart tells you, not bec of some other people and what they do.

    • cvj on February 29, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    may sinasabi ba akong ayaw kong palitan si gloria? hindi ba ang sabi ko para maganda at masunod ang gusto natin idaan na lahat sa people power ang pagpipipili ng mga lider? – grd

    grd has one foot on the other side already. 😀

    • grd on February 29, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    jeg,

    everyone knows that if you talk of PP or say edsa PP, it’s all about tanggalan. it’s a demand for the removal of whoever is the sitting inept leader either through force or voluntary resignation. it has been the symbol eversince. surely it’s not just about demand for reforms or good governance and second chances isn’t it? it’s a total display of lack of trust in the leader, or in the system it is a call for action through extra-constitutional means of removing a leader (as what pro PP in this blog has been advocating all along). otherwise, i think people like BW would not be wasting their time organizing this PP. maybe i’m wrong with my perception about PP? maybe you or mlq3 can enlighten me on this one. what exactly is the meaning and purpose of PP if not just plain “tanggalan”?

    anyway, thanks also jeg for the pleasantries.

  4. lam mo kaya nagkahetot hetot bansa ntin dhil sa mga selfish, greedy at family-oriented na mga kbabayan mo!

    kng palitan ba nlng ntin yan mga opisyal mataas na yan hangang janitor sa gobyerno ng hapon edi sana may narating pa tayo!

    tama si almonte kinokontrol ng mga oligarchs etong bansa ntin. maiaayos lng ang sistema kahit unggoy ang ilagay mo dyan sa govbyerno aasenso tayo!

    • benign0 on February 29, 2008 at 4:08 pm

    “SW, palitan na lang natin si Gloria ng kahit sino. Si Gloria wala nang chance magbago, ang ipapalit sa kanya meron pa di ba? I don’t buy the argument na lahat lahat sila ay pareho lang naman kaya huwag na lang palitan si Gloria. I will take a chance on somebody new.” — Jon Mariano

    Sana Erap would have a chance to run for president again so that we could establish once and for all the actual degree of the collective stupidity of Pinoy society.

    Kahit sino nga ba? 😀

    • benign0 on February 29, 2008 at 4:12 pm

    “disengaging from the system only makes it worse. participating doesn’t make it better INSTANTLY, but at least it gives us the fighting CHANCE we need.” — DevilsAdvc8

    Unfortunately, to use Mr. hvrd’s analogy — Pinoys would rather fnck democracy than make love to it.

    Just like we perverted the concept of “Merry Christmas”, we’ve perverted not only democracy but People Power itself.

    I wrote about the Pinoy’s propensity to pervert otherwise brilliant ideas way back in 2005:

    “What was cited above is actually “adaptability” perverted into tolerance for mediocrity and impropriety. We have “adapted” so much to aversity that we now tolerate the worst of dysfunctions not only in our government but in the very soul of our society.”

    Check out the full article here:
    http://www.geocities.com/benign0/agr-disagr/10-5-perverted.html

    – 😀

    • Kabayan on February 29, 2008 at 4:12 pm

    Napupuno na ang Ayala, I got to go before it fills up, bye guys and gals 😉

  5. wait for me!

    lets party! haha

    • grd on February 29, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    cvj, can’t get my drift? pardon my sarcasm but my stand eversince is to remove the sitting president through constitutional process. make the system works and strengthen it.

    • tonio on February 29, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    there they go…

    there they go again…

    • tonio on February 29, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    grd:

    oh but that would mean doing things the right way man. since when did THAT ever appeal to people over here?

    • benign0 on February 29, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    Fiesta Revolution! 😀

    • grd on February 29, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    tonio, and that’s why we are bad. while erap, jvd hand in hand with cory are now on the good side.

    • tonio on February 29, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    plus ça change, plus c’est la meme chose….

    sorry for being sarcastic, but i promise you i will be the first to rejoice if i see something new come out of this..

    • tonio on February 29, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    grd:

    that’s cause our solution has no entertainment value. hahaah!

  6. manolo,

    hindi ka ba mag la live blogging? Yung online radio putol putol. Yung online news naman ang bagal. Mamaya na talaga kami makakita pag TV Patrol na.

  7. “benigno

    “disengaging from the system only makes it worse. participating doesn’t make it better INSTANTLY, but at least it gives us the fighting CHANCE we need.” — DevilsAdvc8

    Unfortunately, to use Mr. hvrd’s analogy — Pinoys would rather fnck democracy than make love to it.

    Just like we perverted the concept of “Merry Christmas”, we’ve perverted not only democracy but People Power itself.

    I wrote about the Pinoy’s propensity to pervert otherwise brilliant ideas way back in 2005:

    “What was cited above is actually “adaptability” perverted into tolerance for mediocrity and impropriety. We have “adapted” so much to aversity that we now tolerate the worst of dysfunctions not only in our government but in the very soul of our society.”

    Check out the full article here:
    http://www.geocities.com/benign0/agr-disagr/10-5-perverted.html

    – :D”

    You are out of tune. But anyone, your piece is relavant to those idiots massing in Welcome Rotunda.

    You can still catch up. As of this moment, they have already prayed 2000 Hail Mary’s.

  8. Ooops… But anyway, I mean.

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