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	<title>Comments on: The Long View: Shattered talismans</title>
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		<title>By: mlq3</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/11/26/the-long-view-shattered-talismans/comment-page-1/#comment-1070802</link>
		<dc:creator>mlq3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mia it&#039;s one step forward tow steps back, the Moros themselves have been fighting this but need allies elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mia it&#8217;s one step forward tow steps back, the Moros themselves have been fighting this but need allies elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Cruz</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/11/26/the-long-view-shattered-talismans/comment-page-1/#comment-1070702</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Cruz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Philippine National Police is seeking to confiscate all 19 guns registered to Datu Unsay Mayor Andal Ampatuan Jr. 

There they go again. Announcing their moves before doing it. Forewarning your target. How smart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Philippine National Police is seeking to confiscate all 19 guns registered to Datu Unsay Mayor Andal Ampatuan Jr. </p>
<p>There they go again. Announcing their moves before doing it. Forewarning your target. How smart.</p>
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		<title>By: The Cusp</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/11/26/the-long-view-shattered-talismans/comment-page-1/#comment-1070647</link>
		<dc:creator>The Cusp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 08:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a lighter note, the opening line of this blog I thought was going to read ... &quot;out gun, out goon and out gold (sic)&quot; (which I think is an actual quote from the 1968 election rival of Pres Marcos).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a lighter note, the opening line of this blog I thought was going to read &#8230; &#8220;out gun, out goon and out gold (sic)&#8221; (which I think is an actual quote from the 1968 election rival of Pres Marcos).</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Cruz</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/11/26/the-long-view-shattered-talismans/comment-page-1/#comment-1070645</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Cruz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They must be deprived of the sources and fruits of their greed. They must be deprived of their tools to sow fear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They must be deprived of the sources and fruits of their greed. They must be deprived of their tools to sow fear.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Cruz</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/11/26/the-long-view-shattered-talismans/comment-page-1/#comment-1070642</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Cruz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Correction...&quot;Two of the greatest motivations...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Correction&#8230;&#8221;Two of the greatest motivations&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Cruz</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/11/26/the-long-view-shattered-talismans/comment-page-1/#comment-1070641</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Cruz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 07:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of the greatest motivations is greed and fear. Both have worked so effectively for warlords.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the greatest motivations is greed and fear. Both have worked so effectively for warlords.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Truth is stranger than fiction...and probably will never be known to all...
How many millions, billions have been funneled into this region, intelligence funds, anti terror funds, election related funds, aid? There are probably more military presence here than anywhere else in the country, not counting the palace. Contrary to the &quot;complicated&quot; scenario that is always painted about this area, it may not be as perplexing in real life.  There is only right and wrong, nothing in between, black and white, truth or lie, beyond that, there are &quot;complications&quot; &quot;gray areas.&quot; 
As usual, we just have to follow the &quot;money trail,&quot; who stands to gain from protracted conflict here? Soldiers can only follow orders, those unfortunate enough to question seemingly &quot;illegal&quot; orders will be dealt with the fullest extent that the chain of command will allow. A man can be kidnapped, murdered, beaten, in front of a military camp but if no orders are given to intervene, the perpetrators will be left alone to do whatever they want. Standing orders are &quot;not to intervene.&quot; 
With most of our brightest people, people with sky high IQs, steeped in military strategy and tactics, trained to anticipate possible scenarios, given the intelligence network, armor, manpower, firepower, the works, why? Even the Americans are there? 
This seemingly perpetual peace and order problem in Mindanao looks more like a &quot;way of life&quot; rather than an age old problem of cultural roots, then again its easy to make it &quot;complex&quot; as complications feed the mystique, the unknown...people like to make things complicated if they want to hide the truth. Find the people who profit from this, the hidden traditions, the unwritten, unaccounted priveleges that wait for certain positions...then we can come closer to solving this so called complexity that has claimed the lives of countless friends and brothers who only followed orders but were inexplicable pawns in the greater scheme of things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Truth is stranger than fiction&#8230;and probably will never be known to all&#8230;<br />
How many millions, billions have been funneled into this region, intelligence funds, anti terror funds, election related funds, aid? There are probably more military presence here than anywhere else in the country, not counting the palace. Contrary to the &#8220;complicated&#8221; scenario that is always painted about this area, it may not be as perplexing in real life.  There is only right and wrong, nothing in between, black and white, truth or lie, beyond that, there are &#8220;complications&#8221; &#8220;gray areas.&#8221;<br />
As usual, we just have to follow the &#8220;money trail,&#8221; who stands to gain from protracted conflict here? Soldiers can only follow orders, those unfortunate enough to question seemingly &#8220;illegal&#8221; orders will be dealt with the fullest extent that the chain of command will allow. A man can be kidnapped, murdered, beaten, in front of a military camp but if no orders are given to intervene, the perpetrators will be left alone to do whatever they want. Standing orders are &#8220;not to intervene.&#8221;<br />
With most of our brightest people, people with sky high IQs, steeped in military strategy and tactics, trained to anticipate possible scenarios, given the intelligence network, armor, manpower, firepower, the works, why? Even the Americans are there?<br />
This seemingly perpetual peace and order problem in Mindanao looks more like a &#8220;way of life&#8221; rather than an age old problem of cultural roots, then again its easy to make it &#8220;complex&#8221; as complications feed the mystique, the unknown&#8230;people like to make things complicated if they want to hide the truth. Find the people who profit from this, the hidden traditions, the unwritten, unaccounted priveleges that wait for certain positions&#8230;then we can come closer to solving this so called complexity that has claimed the lives of countless friends and brothers who only followed orders but were inexplicable pawns in the greater scheme of things.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Cruz</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/11/26/the-long-view-shattered-talismans/comment-page-1/#comment-1070628</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Cruz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 06:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And shouldn&#039;t this massacre be called the Ampatuan Massacre? It happened at the town of Ampatuan. Why drag the whole province into it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And shouldn&#8217;t this massacre be called the Ampatuan Massacre? It happened at the town of Ampatuan. Why drag the whole province into it?</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Cruz</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/11/26/the-long-view-shattered-talismans/comment-page-1/#comment-1070627</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Cruz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 05:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may have missed it, but has the Catholic Church issued any statement on this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may have missed it, but has the Catholic Church issued any statement on this?</p>
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		<title>By: pilipino</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/11/26/the-long-view-shattered-talismans/comment-page-1/#comment-1070609</link>
		<dc:creator>pilipino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on 7:08 above..

it should be &quot;deafening silence&quot;

sorry guys, after Thursday and Black Friday, malagihay pa ang mga daliri ko, hehehhe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on 7:08 above..</p>
<p>it should be &#8220;deafening silence&#8221;</p>
<p>sorry guys, after Thursday and Black Friday, malagihay pa ang mga daliri ko, hehehhe</p>
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