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		<title>By: d0d0ng</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/06/08/the-long-view-let-them-be-anathema/comment-page-1/#comment-1046546</link>
		<dc:creator>d0d0ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J on &quot;Iâ€™d rather be a stupid columnist jailed for his convictions than a free man without a backbone.&quot;

J, you are too naive. So far, the only person who stood his ground, convicted and jailed was Erap. But he is still guilty of corruption charges and plunder. So there is nothing commendable even how much calcium he had on his spine.

In contrast, we have Madame President who can change her shades like a camellion. But one thing is sure, she is not stupid.

You need to tread the water to know if your motto really works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J on &#8220;Iâ€™d rather be a stupid columnist jailed for his convictions than a free man without a backbone.&#8221;</p>
<p>J, you are too naive. So far, the only person who stood his ground, convicted and jailed was Erap. But he is still guilty of corruption charges and plunder. So there is nothing commendable even how much calcium he had on his spine.</p>
<p>In contrast, we have Madame President who can change her shades like a camellion. But one thing is sure, she is not stupid.</p>
<p>You need to tread the water to know if your motto really works.</p>
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		<title>By: d0d0ng</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/06/08/the-long-view-let-them-be-anathema/comment-page-1/#comment-1046544</link>
		<dc:creator>d0d0ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny. Ramon Tulfo picking on Manolo as a coward. Ramon Tulfo is the most stupid gossipers who made gullible Filipinos believed that a hotel collapsed in Baguio City in 2002. Gossips masquerade as columns under a gun slinging style sells in PDI. It is the same Ramon Tulfo during the funeral called the fans of Fernando Po, including Senator Rene Saguisag as illiterate, uneducated, irrational and stupid morons.

Even funnier is that the extortionist Ramon Tulfo learns to muzzle his gun a bit and settles to badmouthing like say coward this time.  In July 2006, NBI filed five counts of extortion charges against Ramon Tulfo and his brothers Raffy and Erwin. After all, morons expecially a family of morons can learn.

Kuya Mon, please smile!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny. Ramon Tulfo picking on Manolo as a coward. Ramon Tulfo is the most stupid gossipers who made gullible Filipinos believed that a hotel collapsed in Baguio City in 2002. Gossips masquerade as columns under a gun slinging style sells in PDI. It is the same Ramon Tulfo during the funeral called the fans of Fernando Po, including Senator Rene Saguisag as illiterate, uneducated, irrational and stupid morons.</p>
<p>Even funnier is that the extortionist Ramon Tulfo learns to muzzle his gun a bit and settles to badmouthing like say coward this time.  In July 2006, NBI filed five counts of extortion charges against Ramon Tulfo and his brothers Raffy and Erwin. After all, morons expecially a family of morons can learn.</p>
<p>Kuya Mon, please smile!</p>
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		<title>By: mlq3</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlq3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J, they are proof of the punchy style that&#039;s made him such a popular columnist; and of course he is entitled to his opinion. some have different opinions, interpreting in the manner of galileo; others, from a tactical approach, whether it is better to charge into the enemy or outflank it; and some others who make the distinction that a columnist is not a suicide bomber; but those are all interpretations the writer has to accept as the readers&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J, they are proof of the punchy style that&#8217;s made him such a popular columnist; and of course he is entitled to his opinion. some have different opinions, interpreting in the manner of galileo; others, from a tactical approach, whether it is better to charge into the enemy or outflank it; and some others who make the distinction that a columnist is not a suicide bomber; but those are all interpretations the writer has to accept as the readers&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: saxnviolins</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/06/08/the-long-view-let-them-be-anathema/comment-page-1/#comment-1046456</link>
		<dc:creator>saxnviolins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:25:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The libel law is unconstitutional on two grounds:

Congress can only punish action, not speech; so criminal libel is unconstitutional.

The law on libel presumes malice of the libelous statement. But malice is an element of the offense. So the presumption shifts the burden of proof from the prosecution to the accused. It is elementary that the prosecution must prove every element of the offense.

The CJ Puno memorandum directs the RTC to impose fines instead of imprisonment. So what is the danger?

As for a civil suit, let the priest prove his mental anguish. Isn&#039;t suffering a spiritual plus?

Then again, it&#039;s your life. But this would have been a good fight; and one that would have enriched Philippine jurisprudence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The libel law is unconstitutional on two grounds:</p>
<p>Congress can only punish action, not speech; so criminal libel is unconstitutional.</p>
<p>The law on libel presumes malice of the libelous statement. But malice is an element of the offense. So the presumption shifts the burden of proof from the prosecution to the accused. It is elementary that the prosecution must prove every element of the offense.</p>
<p>The CJ Puno memorandum directs the RTC to impose fines instead of imprisonment. So what is the danger?</p>
<p>As for a civil suit, let the priest prove his mental anguish. Isn&#8217;t suffering a spiritual plus?</p>
<p>Then again, it&#8217;s your life. But this would have been a good fight; and one that would have enriched Philippine jurisprudence.</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 12:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What can you say about these comments by Mr Tulfo:

A journalist, particularly a columnist, should stand by what he or she perceives to be the truth and suffer the consequences if need be.

The aftermath of telling the truth could come in the form of a libel suit with the possibility of going to jail, or harm to his person.

If a columnist is not too sure about his facts he should shut up.

Only fairies in a beauty parlor chatter in gossip. A newspaper column is not a beauty salon.

One columnist says that his colleagues who â€œget stuck with libel casesâ€ are stupid.

The same columnist ate the strong words he said earlier about a very prominent personality after being threatened with a libel suit by the latterâ€™s lawyers.

Which is worse, being stupid or being cowardly?

Iâ€™d rather be a stupid columnist jailed for his convictions than a free man without a backbone.

A cowardly columnist, no matter his eloquence, loses his credibility sooner or later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What can you say about these comments by Mr Tulfo:</p>
<p>A journalist, particularly a columnist, should stand by what he or she perceives to be the truth and suffer the consequences if need be.</p>
<p>The aftermath of telling the truth could come in the form of a libel suit with the possibility of going to jail, or harm to his person.</p>
<p>If a columnist is not too sure about his facts he should shut up.</p>
<p>Only fairies in a beauty parlor chatter in gossip. A newspaper column is not a beauty salon.</p>
<p>One columnist says that his colleagues who â€œget stuck with libel casesâ€ are stupid.</p>
<p>The same columnist ate the strong words he said earlier about a very prominent personality after being threatened with a libel suit by the latterâ€™s lawyers.</p>
<p>Which is worse, being stupid or being cowardly?</p>
<p>Iâ€™d rather be a stupid columnist jailed for his convictions than a free man without a backbone.</p>
<p>A cowardly columnist, no matter his eloquence, loses his credibility sooner or later.</p>
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		<title>By: mlq3</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlq3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 01:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Orlando, I read your entry with great interest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orlando, I read your entry with great interest.</p>
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		<title>By: Orlando R</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/06/08/the-long-view-let-them-be-anathema/comment-page-1/#comment-1046393</link>
		<dc:creator>Orlando R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your recantation raises legal questions - on substance, evidence, and strategy.  But can anathema really work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your recantation raises legal questions &#8211; on substance, evidence, and strategy.  But can anathema really work?</p>
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		<title>By: Madonna</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/06/08/the-long-view-let-them-be-anathema/comment-page-1/#comment-1046388</link>
		<dc:creator>Madonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have little  or no idea who Father Intengan is or what he has been up to. 

But as to the word, ANATHEMA: &quot;Let it be done&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have little  or no idea who Father Intengan is or what he has been up to. </p>
<p>But as to the word, ANATHEMA: &#8220;Let it be done&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bencard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bencard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 17:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as a practicing lawyer in new york and connecticut, i believe this is a kind of libel claim that cannot prosper in both jurisdiction, if not in all states of america.

i realize, given the position the catholic church occupies in philippine society, how much of an uphill struggle mlq3 would have had he chosen to take them on in the name of press freedom.
i think philippine libel laws will remain anachronistic, if not retrogressive, over the next hundred years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as a practicing lawyer in new york and connecticut, i believe this is a kind of libel claim that cannot prosper in both jurisdiction, if not in all states of america.</p>
<p>i realize, given the position the catholic church occupies in philippine society, how much of an uphill struggle mlq3 would have had he chosen to take them on in the name of press freedom.<br />
i think philippine libel laws will remain anachronistic, if not retrogressive, over the next hundred years.</p>
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		<title>By: Hyden Toro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hyden Toro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 16:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rumor Mongering was a Presidential Decree during the Marcos
Era. It was one way to muzzle everybody to talk openly. You
cannot talk, if you have no proof. What has lead this to?

Unchecked Dictatorship. Abuse of Power. Authoritarianism.
The Dictator and his cahoots can just rob the Filipino people
with their eyes open.

Is this what all want?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rumor Mongering was a Presidential Decree during the Marcos<br />
Era. It was one way to muzzle everybody to talk openly. You<br />
cannot talk, if you have no proof. What has lead this to?</p>
<p>Unchecked Dictatorship. Abuse of Power. Authoritarianism.<br />
The Dictator and his cahoots can just rob the Filipino people<br />
with their eyes open.</p>
<p>Is this what all want?</p>
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