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		<title>By: viktor12</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/06/02/showdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1045914</link>
		<dc:creator>viktor12</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bottom line here is that GMA wants to continue holding on to power! I just wonder until when the Filipino people would allow these abuses by GMA and her cohorts to continue.

The middle class allowed all of these to happen. They never accepted Erap, so he was ousted. And in place, we now have the insensitive, ruthless, arrogant Gloria Arroyo!

Will we still remain apathetic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bottom line here is that GMA wants to continue holding on to power! I just wonder until when the Filipino people would allow these abuses by GMA and her cohorts to continue.</p>
<p>The middle class allowed all of these to happen. They never accepted Erap, so he was ousted. And in place, we now have the insensitive, ruthless, arrogant Gloria Arroyo!</p>
<p>Will we still remain apathetic?</p>
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		<title>By: supremo</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/06/02/showdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1045741</link>
		<dc:creator>supremo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;anti-anti GMA&#039;

The Macabebes of Pampanga, GMA&#039;s home province, became anti anti-Philippine independence when they betrayed Aguinaldo in Palanan. This brought down the First Republic and gave way to American rule. American rule brought us American style of government and public education. Then WWII came. Blood everywhere. After that, independence from American rule in 1946 with some carry on baggage like parity and the military bases. In the early 70s parity out, martial law in. In the mid 80s EDSA revolution and 1987 Constitution in but everyone still wants to get out. Early 21st century Erap out, GMA in. That brings us to where we are today. Being anti anti is not always a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;anti-anti GMA&#8217;</p>
<p>The Macabebes of Pampanga, GMA&#8217;s home province, became anti anti-Philippine independence when they betrayed Aguinaldo in Palanan. This brought down the First Republic and gave way to American rule. American rule brought us American style of government and public education. Then WWII came. Blood everywhere. After that, independence from American rule in 1946 with some carry on baggage like parity and the military bases. In the early 70s parity out, martial law in. In the mid 80s EDSA revolution and 1987 Constitution in but everyone still wants to get out. Early 21st century Erap out, GMA in. That brings us to where we are today. Being anti anti is not always a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/06/02/showdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1045660</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 09:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nograles and the House of Representatives have passed this resolution in order to provoke a â€œjusticiable controversyâ€, which would, in turn, compel the Supreme Court to make a ruling on whether a constituent assembly could be convened without the Senateâ€”or whether amendments could be made by voting jointly and not separately.

From the looks of it, Nograles and the House have transferred the burden of deciding on the legality of a joint House-Senate constituent assembly to the Supreme Court, instead of deciding on it by themselves. It looks to me more like a case of passing the buck, rather than a railroading incident. 

Now, the ball is on the court supreme. If people can&#039;t trust their ultimate legal arbiter, that wouldn&#039;t be Congress&#039; problem. Personally, I believe quite a number of Justices aren&#039;t mere stooges and are perfectly capable to think for themselves, thank you. Besides Puno, there&#039;s also Antonio Carpio who has consistently been an independent voice on the bench.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nograles and the House of Representatives have passed this resolution in order to provoke a â€œjusticiable controversyâ€, which would, in turn, compel the Supreme Court to make a ruling on whether a constituent assembly could be convened without the Senateâ€”or whether amendments could be made by voting jointly and not separately.</p>
<p>From the looks of it, Nograles and the House have transferred the burden of deciding on the legality of a joint House-Senate constituent assembly to the Supreme Court, instead of deciding on it by themselves. It looks to me more like a case of passing the buck, rather than a railroading incident. </p>
<p>Now, the ball is on the court supreme. If people can&#8217;t trust their ultimate legal arbiter, that wouldn&#8217;t be Congress&#8217; problem. Personally, I believe quite a number of Justices aren&#8217;t mere stooges and are perfectly capable to think for themselves, thank you. Besides Puno, there&#8217;s also Antonio Carpio who has consistently been an independent voice on the bench.</p>
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		<title>By: Geo</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/06/02/showdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1045631</link>
		<dc:creator>Geo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 05:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;catch 22? choose between cha-cha or martial law.&quot;

Spare us. This is the kind of false dichotomy being presented to the public in order to whip up a frenzy against the admin (and/or whip up sympathy for a politician or for an NGO and it&#039;s proponents). 

It has not worked for how many years now? People are smarter than some expected. (cue the predictable: &quot;No, everyone is just apathetic&quot; retort...which is later belied by voter turnout during each election)

Would anyone actually be willing to bet a gazillion pesos? On one side, elections (iclusing for Prez) occur in 2010...on the other side Martial law, no el or term extensions.

The only ones who have constantly agitated for going against the Constitution have been the anti-GMA screamers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;catch 22? choose between cha-cha or martial law.&#8221;</p>
<p>Spare us. This is the kind of false dichotomy being presented to the public in order to whip up a frenzy against the admin (and/or whip up sympathy for a politician or for an NGO and it&#8217;s proponents). </p>
<p>It has not worked for how many years now? People are smarter than some expected. (cue the predictable: &#8220;No, everyone is just apathetic&#8221; retort&#8230;which is later belied by voter turnout during each election)</p>
<p>Would anyone actually be willing to bet a gazillion pesos? On one side, elections (iclusing for Prez) occur in 2010&#8230;on the other side Martial law, no el or term extensions.</p>
<p>The only ones who have constantly agitated for going against the Constitution have been the anti-GMA screamers.</p>
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		<title>By: ramrod</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/06/02/showdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1045621</link>
		<dc:creator>ramrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Geo has a point there. Its the majority rule, we wanted a democracy didn&#039;t we? So we deal with it. Whether we like it or not we have to live with reality, and survive administration after administration and hope things get better in time.
They have to pass through the SC though, if it does, its the way democracy works, some people win, some lose.
We survived the worst possible scenarios before, dictatorship, martial law, whats another 10-20 years of the same, some people even like to relive the good old days.
The trick is to keep a low profile, keep to yourselves, don&#039;t rock the boat, make money quietly, and don&#039;t get involved in someone else&#039;s problems. Some people will eventually get killed for dissenting este anarchy/rebellion, etc. but its their choice, we can survive kung walang pakialaman...thats democracy, some people will rule over us...hmmm although it seems like it should be the other way around, but reality oftentimes does not conform to ideals...deal with it and try to survive...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geo has a point there. Its the majority rule, we wanted a democracy didn&#8217;t we? So we deal with it. Whether we like it or not we have to live with reality, and survive administration after administration and hope things get better in time.<br />
They have to pass through the SC though, if it does, its the way democracy works, some people win, some lose.<br />
We survived the worst possible scenarios before, dictatorship, martial law, whats another 10-20 years of the same, some people even like to relive the good old days.<br />
The trick is to keep a low profile, keep to yourselves, don&#8217;t rock the boat, make money quietly, and don&#8217;t get involved in someone else&#8217;s problems. Some people will eventually get killed for dissenting este anarchy/rebellion, etc. but its their choice, we can survive kung walang pakialaman&#8230;thats democracy, some people will rule over us&#8230;hmmm although it seems like it should be the other way around, but reality oftentimes does not conform to ideals&#8230;deal with it and try to survive&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: supremo</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/06/02/showdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1045616</link>
		<dc:creator>supremo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 04:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>catch 22? choose between cha-cha or martial law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>catch 22? choose between cha-cha or martial law.</p>
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		<title>By: Geo</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/06/02/showdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1045607</link>
		<dc:creator>Geo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 02:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These Congressmen were just re-elected 2 years ago...after much anti-GMA agitation. No one is going to recall them. Odds are that the majority of them will be re-elected by their local constituency.

Resolutions are put on the floor, debated and then voted on. This is democracy at work. Majority carries the day. Very normal. The oppositors put up their objections for hours. That&#039;s how it works. The &quot;railroad&quot; accusation is false/inaccurate at least, disingenuous for any who know the rules and underhandedly manipulative for those who try to fool the public into thinking some rule or process has been infringed upon.

The SC has not &quot;historically ruled in favor of the Arroyo administration&quot;. Their have been both wins and losses for the admin.

A &quot;snowball&quot; that will stop Prez elections in 2010 is virtually impossible...regardless of yesterday&#039;s event (non-event). This is a canard being thrown out into public space so to confuse the public and to create stories which don&#039;t actually exist. Hence the lack of aggressive coverage by neutral media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These Congressmen were just re-elected 2 years ago&#8230;after much anti-GMA agitation. No one is going to recall them. Odds are that the majority of them will be re-elected by their local constituency.</p>
<p>Resolutions are put on the floor, debated and then voted on. This is democracy at work. Majority carries the day. Very normal. The oppositors put up their objections for hours. That&#8217;s how it works. The &#8220;railroad&#8221; accusation is false/inaccurate at least, disingenuous for any who know the rules and underhandedly manipulative for those who try to fool the public into thinking some rule or process has been infringed upon.</p>
<p>The SC has not &#8220;historically ruled in favor of the Arroyo administration&#8221;. Their have been both wins and losses for the admin.</p>
<p>A &#8220;snowball&#8221; that will stop Prez elections in 2010 is virtually impossible&#8230;regardless of yesterday&#8217;s event (non-event). This is a canard being thrown out into public space so to confuse the public and to create stories which don&#8217;t actually exist. Hence the lack of aggressive coverage by neutral media.</p>
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		<title>By: siyetehan</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/06/02/showdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1045601</link>
		<dc:creator>siyetehan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 02:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think i&#039;m rooting at scenario #2- gma running for congress and eventually gunning for prime minister.

she&#039;s been pouring presidential funds in pampanga lately, i heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think i&#8217;m rooting at scenario #2- gma running for congress and eventually gunning for prime minister.</p>
<p>she&#8217;s been pouring presidential funds in pampanga lately, i heard.</p>
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		<title>By: J_AG</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/06/02/showdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1045596</link>
		<dc:creator>J_AG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 01:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hold everyone&#039;s horses. GMA is setting herself up as the legacy President who will propose charter change in her SONA AS HER EVERLASTING GIFT TO THE FILIPINO PEOPLE. 

Between now and that speech events will decide which mode of carter change will be used. 

Keep your powder dry. 

Her last SONA will be the most interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold everyone&#8217;s horses. GMA is setting herself up as the legacy President who will propose charter change in her SONA AS HER EVERLASTING GIFT TO THE FILIPINO PEOPLE. </p>
<p>Between now and that speech events will decide which mode of carter change will be used. </p>
<p>Keep your powder dry. </p>
<p>Her last SONA will be the most interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: BongV</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/06/02/showdown/comment-page-1/#comment-1045527</link>
		<dc:creator>BongV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 17:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Pinoy blogosphere wants to prove its mettle, it can launch a nationwide campaign to RECALL ALL THE CONGRESSMEN WHO RAILROADED THE MEASURE before they do anymore damage. 

RECALL THESE USELESS CONGRESSMEN!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Pinoy blogosphere wants to prove its mettle, it can launch a nationwide campaign to RECALL ALL THE CONGRESSMEN WHO RAILROADED THE MEASURE before they do anymore damage. </p>
<p>RECALL THESE USELESS CONGRESSMEN!</p>
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