Comments on: The Long View: Insecurity and the Invisible Class http://www.quezon.ph/2009/03/02/the-long-view-insecurity-and-the-invisible-class/ Punditry. Politics. History. Commentary. Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:07:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: BrianB http://www.quezon.ph/2009/03/02/the-long-view-insecurity-and-the-invisible-class/comment-page-1/#comment-1028166 BrianB Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:30:20 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=2596#comment-1028166 MLQ3, why not put this on the front page. If I didn't go to Noemi's blog, i wouldn't have found it. I've stopped reading the Inquirer when they fired all their online bloggers. MLQ3, why not put this on the front page. If I didn’t go to Noemi’s blog, i wouldn’t have found it. I’ve stopped reading the Inquirer when they fired all their online bloggers.

]]> By: mlq3 http://www.quezon.ph/2009/03/02/the-long-view-insecurity-and-the-invisible-class/comment-page-1/#comment-1028114 mlq3 Thu, 05 Mar 2009 06:23:25 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=2596#comment-1028114 angela, I was quoting from a Plurk message: http://www.plurk.com/p/hkr5g the format of Plurk limits the length of each message. kindly consult original message to see why. Her main response is here, according to her: http://filipinovoices.com/hindi-lang-sex-hindi-lang-condom Follow-ups are: http://aboutmyrecovery.com/2009/03/04/the-grief-of-the-invisible-class/ And: http://www.marocharim.com/2009/03/04/as-he-lay-there-dying/ angela, I was quoting from a Plurk message:

http://www.plurk.com/p/hkr5g

the format of Plurk limits the length of each message. kindly consult original message to see why.

Her main response is here, according to her:

http://filipinovoices.com/hindi-lang-sex-hindi-lang-condom

Follow-ups are:

http://aboutmyrecovery.com/2009/03/04/the-grief-of-the-invisible-class/

And:

http://www.marocharim.com/2009/03/04/as-he-lay-there-dying/

]]> By: angela http://www.quezon.ph/2009/03/02/the-long-view-insecurity-and-the-invisible-class/comment-page-1/#comment-1028100 angela Thu, 05 Mar 2009 04:53:51 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=2596#comment-1028100 THAT was sparks' reaction to amiel alcantara's death in campus?! i'm disappointed. it's like changing the subject instead of tackling it. and then, again, she's an ateneo professor 'no? THAT was sparks’ reaction to amiel alcantara’s death in campus?! i’m disappointed. it’s like changing the subject instead of tackling it. and then, again, she’s an ateneo professor ‘no?

]]> By: The Marocharim Experiment » As He Lay There Dying http://www.quezon.ph/2009/03/02/the-long-view-insecurity-and-the-invisible-class/comment-page-1/#comment-1027963 The Marocharim Experiment » As He Lay There Dying Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:33:15 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=2596#comment-1027963 [...] as a reply to “The Grief of the Invisible Class” by Noemi Dado, and “Insecurity and the Invisible Class” by Manolo [...] [...] as a reply to “The Grief of the Invisible Class” by Noemi Dado, and “Insecurity and the Invisible Class” by Manolo [...]

]]> By: The Grief of The Invisible Class | A Filipina Mom Blogger http://www.quezon.ph/2009/03/02/the-long-view-insecurity-and-the-invisible-class/comment-page-1/#comment-1027928 The Grief of The Invisible Class | A Filipina Mom Blogger Wed, 04 Mar 2009 12:43:35 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=2596#comment-1027928 [...] wrote something about The Invisible Class And meanwhile, there continue the biting criticisms. Blogger Caffeinesparks puts it this way, [...] [...] wrote something about The Invisible Class And meanwhile, there continue the biting criticisms. Blogger Caffeinesparks puts it this way, [...]

]]> By: Current » Republic of Sisyphus http://www.quezon.ph/2009/03/02/the-long-view-insecurity-and-the-invisible-class/comment-page-1/#comment-1027800 Current » Republic of Sisyphus Wed, 04 Mar 2009 02:17:44 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=2596#comment-1027800 [...] The result of this visit was three columns: Permanently poor, The end of social mobility, and Insecurity and the Invisible Class. [...] [...] The result of this visit was three columns: Permanently poor, The end of social mobility, and Insecurity and the Invisible Class. [...]

]]> By: la_flash http://www.quezon.ph/2009/03/02/the-long-view-insecurity-and-the-invisible-class/comment-page-1/#comment-1027266 la_flash Tue, 03 Mar 2009 02:43:37 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=2596#comment-1027266 Nobody is indispensable. You might have steady job today, but there will come a time that when crisis takes over, that you'll lose your only source of income. It is true for both blue collar and white collar workers. A key solution to this is for people who belong to middle class and above to be entrepreneurs. Run a business that will generate jobs. Jobs that can alleviate the poor conditions of our poor brothers. Government could take an initiative to offer loans with extremely low interest so as to help the people start business. The downside is, the government is risking money here and not all Filipinos are not keen of becoming businessmen. But should we start changing that culture now? Though, being self-employed and having to run your own business does not exempt you from the impact of economic downturn, it is better than nothing. What do you suggest? Nobody is indispensable. You might have steady job today, but there will come a time that when crisis takes over, that you’ll lose your only source of income. It is true for both blue collar and white collar workers.

A key solution to this is for people who belong to middle class and above to be entrepreneurs. Run a business that will generate jobs. Jobs that can alleviate the poor conditions of our poor brothers.

Government could take an initiative to offer loans with extremely low interest so as to help the people start business. The downside is, the government is risking money here and not all Filipinos are not keen of becoming businessmen. But should we start changing that culture now?

Though, being self-employed and having to run your own business does not exempt you from the impact of economic downturn, it is better than nothing.

What do you suggest?

]]> By: mlq3 http://www.quezon.ph/2009/03/02/the-long-view-insecurity-and-the-invisible-class/comment-page-1/#comment-1027222 mlq3 Tue, 03 Mar 2009 01:20:54 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=2596#comment-1027222 he meant from the point of view of de soto and others, that so much wealth is trapped in squatter-occupied land, and therefore, if you transfer property to the squatters, they can mobilize the value of the land by availing of credit to set up businesses, then if the transfer of property from state/landlords to squatters only results in the squatters gaining title only to be edged out or sell out, it defeats the purpose of the reform. he meant from the point of view of de soto and others, that so much wealth is trapped in squatter-occupied land, and therefore, if you transfer property to the squatters, they can mobilize the value of the land by availing of credit to set up businesses, then if the transfer of property from state/landlords to squatters only results in the squatters gaining title only to be edged out or sell out, it defeats the purpose of the reform.

]]> By: GabbyD http://www.quezon.ph/2009/03/02/the-long-view-insecurity-and-the-invisible-class/comment-page-1/#comment-1027142 GabbyD Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:03:29 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=2596#comment-1027142 quick question: "Yet Ferguson points out the problem with De Soto’s advocacy. For example, in the case of 200,000 Lima, Peru households provided titles in 1998-1999, only 25 percent had access to loans a couple of years later; in Cambodia, granting legal titles to urban property only enabled speculators to muscle in and edge out the beneficiaries. " why is this not evidence of credit? these speculators bought the land from the beneficiaries -- is this what ferguson means? if so, why is this a failure to access credit, when credit is transforming assets into cash for today's use? thanks! quick question:

“Yet Ferguson points out the problem with De Soto’s advocacy. For example, in the case of 200,000 Lima, Peru households provided titles in 1998-1999, only 25 percent had access to loans a couple of years later; in Cambodia, granting legal titles to urban property only enabled speculators to muscle in and edge out the beneficiaries. ”

why is this not evidence of credit? these speculators bought the land from the beneficiaries — is this what ferguson means? if so, why is this a failure to access credit, when credit is transforming assets into cash for today’s use? thanks!

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