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		<title>By: bonifacio claudio</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/02/26/thoughts-on-stillborn-revolutions/comment-page-3/#comment-1055524</link>
		<dc:creator>bonifacio claudio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m just so happy to read mlq3, as well as the other contributors, &amp; the subsequent analytical discussons on the subjects. I could say i found here the intellectual elite the nation needs.

If only they could reach out to the &quot;masses&quot; to enlighten their understanding of past &amp; present issues, help in their opinion-formation, &amp; decision-making, then i believe the unpatriotic, vested self-interest of the few could not distort historical facts to their glorification by the fooled masses (where i belong &amp; where i tried, in some little ways i can,to mold the reasoning of small groups based on facts). But if these people cited above stay just in one little print-corner, then i strongly believe that there is a &quot;service-for-the-country&quot; potential going down the paper basket.

Pls gentlemen of the intellectual elite, use your dynamism &amp; influence, so that the masses could see &amp; hear you on tv. Let one of you &quot;host&quot; a program in line with this idea: go to the people from all walks to interview live to pool &quot;questions-answers&quot; data which will be the basis for televised comments by concerned well-known figures in the sector for enlightenment. Then back to the tv studio will be seated &quot;No n&#039;importe de quoi&quot; debaters (who know what they are talking about), but must of course represent the pros &amp; cons of the issue. Then begins the debate of the invited speakers like mlq3, etc on the tv platform. When it&#039;s attended by wannabees from the cinema, sports, etc, then you could surely expect the masses to be there on rendez-vous. PERO SA TAGALOG po ang usapan, if the intention is to reach out to the masses&#039; understanding. And when i say tagalog, i mean tagalog of today, Eng-log or Taglish, not purista as to use &quot;salungpinggan&quot; for lamesa. TY &amp; God bless the Filipino.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m just so happy to read mlq3, as well as the other contributors, &amp; the subsequent analytical discussons on the subjects. I could say i found here the intellectual elite the nation needs.</p>
<p>If only they could reach out to the &#8220;masses&#8221; to enlighten their understanding of past &amp; present issues, help in their opinion-formation, &amp; decision-making, then i believe the unpatriotic, vested self-interest of the few could not distort historical facts to their glorification by the fooled masses (where i belong &amp; where i tried, in some little ways i can,to mold the reasoning of small groups based on facts). But if these people cited above stay just in one little print-corner, then i strongly believe that there is a &#8220;service-for-the-country&#8221; potential going down the paper basket.</p>
<p>Pls gentlemen of the intellectual elite, use your dynamism &amp; influence, so that the masses could see &amp; hear you on tv. Let one of you &#8220;host&#8221; a program in line with this idea: go to the people from all walks to interview live to pool &#8220;questions-answers&#8221; data which will be the basis for televised comments by concerned well-known figures in the sector for enlightenment. Then back to the tv studio will be seated &#8220;No n&#8217;importe de quoi&#8221; debaters (who know what they are talking about), but must of course represent the pros &amp; cons of the issue. Then begins the debate of the invited speakers like mlq3, etc on the tv platform. When it&#8217;s attended by wannabees from the cinema, sports, etc, then you could surely expect the masses to be there on rendez-vous. PERO SA TAGALOG po ang usapan, if the intention is to reach out to the masses&#8217; understanding. And when i say tagalog, i mean tagalog of today, Eng-log or Taglish, not purista as to use &#8220;salungpinggan&#8221; for lamesa. TY &amp; God bless the Filipino.</p>
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		<title>By: Mercy</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/02/26/thoughts-on-stillborn-revolutions/comment-page-3/#comment-1027942</link>
		<dc:creator>Mercy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 13:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh,  for the Philippines to be Tiger status.  Wouldn&#039;t it have been just g-r-e-a-t  had FVR ignored people-power sentiments?!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh,  for the Philippines to be Tiger status.  Wouldn&#8217;t it have been just g-r-e-a-t  had FVR ignored people-power sentiments?!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Abe N. Margallo</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/02/26/thoughts-on-stillborn-revolutions/comment-page-3/#comment-1027524</link>
		<dc:creator>Abe N. Margallo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 14:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Lakas-NUCD, under the leadership of Ramos had a plan which all groups could jump on board Ã¢â‚¬â€ RamosÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ tactic of emphasizing unity, instead of going upfront on who his enemies was very successful. And it was not all motherhood either. He satisfied big business by continuing liberalization and privatization, he listened to public opinion (remember Flor Contemplacion Ã¢â‚¬â€ he fired Confessor and Roberto Romulo over incompetence on handling the issue Ã¢â‚¬â€ just ask why Gloria ArroyoÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s trust rating is in the pigsty, she canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t even fire Raul Gonzales), he hunkered for peace talks with the rebel soldiers, the communists and Muslim insurgents. He had something solid to show for as achievements Ã¢â‚¬â€ and so, looking back, I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t think his charter change was a ploy for selfish reasons. &lt;/i&gt; - Madonna

Madonna, if the Marcosian message is beginning to him home at all, I guess the best leader who could have put it to fruition better than Marcos   himself was FVR. FVR, as Marcos, put the blame for the continuing scourge of the nation on the Philippine oligarchy. The &quot;mother of all our problems&quot; throughout history according to Ramos has been the Ã¢â‚¬Å“unholy allianceÃ¢â‚¬Â and Ã¢â‚¬Å“perverse symbiosisÃ¢â‚¬Â between politicians and a few families, powerful, wealthy and Ã¢â‚¬Å“greedy rent-seeking,Ã¢â‚¬Â to whom many of the former are beholden.

But to confront the problem FVR kowtowed to Washington&#039;s bitter prescription of liberalization, privatization and deregulation against the best practices in Asia (Japan, of course, or S. Korea and Taiwan).  (US may be en route to revisiting these Asian models today to get itself out of an impending economic disaster.) 

Ramos, a good soldier that he is, bowed too to People Power sentiments, still too dominating then, instead of skirting the Rule of Law to extend his term and carry the Philippines to Tiger status.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Lakas-NUCD, under the leadership of Ramos had a plan which all groups could jump on board Ã¢â‚¬â€ RamosÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ tactic of emphasizing unity, instead of going upfront on who his enemies was very successful. And it was not all motherhood either. He satisfied big business by continuing liberalization and privatization, he listened to public opinion (remember Flor Contemplacion Ã¢â‚¬â€ he fired Confessor and Roberto Romulo over incompetence on handling the issue Ã¢â‚¬â€ just ask why Gloria ArroyoÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s trust rating is in the pigsty, she canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t even fire Raul Gonzales), he hunkered for peace talks with the rebel soldiers, the communists and Muslim insurgents. He had something solid to show for as achievements Ã¢â‚¬â€ and so, looking back, I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t think his charter change was a ploy for selfish reasons. </i> &#8211; Madonna</p>
<p>Madonna, if the Marcosian message is beginning to him home at all, I guess the best leader who could have put it to fruition better than Marcos   himself was FVR. FVR, as Marcos, put the blame for the continuing scourge of the nation on the Philippine oligarchy. The &#8220;mother of all our problems&#8221; throughout history according to Ramos has been the Ã¢â‚¬Å“unholy allianceÃ¢â‚¬Â and Ã¢â‚¬Å“perverse symbiosisÃ¢â‚¬Â between politicians and a few families, powerful, wealthy and Ã¢â‚¬Å“greedy rent-seeking,Ã¢â‚¬Â to whom many of the former are beholden.</p>
<p>But to confront the problem FVR kowtowed to Washington&#8217;s bitter prescription of liberalization, privatization and deregulation against the best practices in Asia (Japan, of course, or S. Korea and Taiwan).  (US may be en route to revisiting these Asian models today to get itself out of an impending economic disaster.) </p>
<p>Ramos, a good soldier that he is, bowed too to People Power sentiments, still too dominating then, instead of skirting the Rule of Law to extend his term and carry the Philippines to Tiger status.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianB</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrianB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 13:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s what she said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what she said.</p>
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		<title>By: mlq3</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/02/26/thoughts-on-stillborn-revolutions/comment-page-3/#comment-1027384</link>
		<dc:creator>mlq3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>madonna, no, the shocking comment was in reference to the findings on bpo locally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>madonna, no, the shocking comment was in reference to the findings on bpo locally.</p>
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		<title>By: Madonna</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/02/26/thoughts-on-stillborn-revolutions/comment-page-3/#comment-1027377</link>
		<dc:creator>Madonna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 07:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with the Left is that it has been demonized by mainstream political thought -- when in fact, by hewing to its original Marxist roots -- it is the only group that gets the political economy right. It still holds the most relevant framework for Philippine society. 

What&#039;s shocking about Lakas? Because it was effective?

Lakas-NUCD, under the leadership of Ramos had a plan which all groups could jump on board -- Ramos&#039; tactic of emphasizing unity, instead of going upfront on who his enemies was very successful. And it was not all motherhood either. He satisfied big business by continuing liberalization and privatization, he listened to public opinion (remember Flor Contemplacion -- he fired Confessor and Roberto Romulo over incompetence on handling the issue -- just ask why Gloria Arroyo&#039;s trust rating is in the pigsty, she can&#039;t even fire Raul Gonzales), he hunkered for peace talks with the rebel soldiers, the communists and Muslim insurgents. He had something solid to show for as achievements -- and so, looking back, I don&#039;t think his charter change was a ploy for selfish reasons.  

GMA is hanging by a skin. Her judgement after 2010 may be worse, than that of Erap and even Marcos. No one among her cabinet or close-in people are there with her because they still believe in her leadership. She has already scraped the bottom of the barrel. She knows it and what she else could do but plan her exit without being overwhelmed with plunder charges upon retirement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the Left is that it has been demonized by mainstream political thought &#8212; when in fact, by hewing to its original Marxist roots &#8212; it is the only group that gets the political economy right. It still holds the most relevant framework for Philippine society. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s shocking about Lakas? Because it was effective?</p>
<p>Lakas-NUCD, under the leadership of Ramos had a plan which all groups could jump on board &#8212; Ramos&#8217; tactic of emphasizing unity, instead of going upfront on who his enemies was very successful. And it was not all motherhood either. He satisfied big business by continuing liberalization and privatization, he listened to public opinion (remember Flor Contemplacion &#8212; he fired Confessor and Roberto Romulo over incompetence on handling the issue &#8212; just ask why Gloria Arroyo&#8217;s trust rating is in the pigsty, she can&#8217;t even fire Raul Gonzales), he hunkered for peace talks with the rebel soldiers, the communists and Muslim insurgents. He had something solid to show for as achievements &#8212; and so, looking back, I don&#8217;t think his charter change was a ploy for selfish reasons.  </p>
<p>GMA is hanging by a skin. Her judgement after 2010 may be worse, than that of Erap and even Marcos. No one among her cabinet or close-in people are there with her because they still believe in her leadership. She has already scraped the bottom of the barrel. She knows it and what she else could do but plan her exit without being overwhelmed with plunder charges upon retirement.</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/02/26/thoughts-on-stillborn-revolutions/comment-page-3/#comment-1027309</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>also take a look at the difference between the results from QC and the Tri-area(Manila,Makati,Cebu)..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>also take a look at the difference between the results from QC and the Tri-area(Manila,Makati,Cebu)..</p>
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		<title>By: Abe N. Margallo</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/02/26/thoughts-on-stillborn-revolutions/comment-page-3/#comment-1027306</link>
		<dc:creator>Abe N. Margallo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ã¢â‚¬Å“Well, you could say that American bankers, empowered by a quarter-century of deregulatory zeal, led the world in finding sophisticated ways to enrich themselves by hiding risk and fooling investors.Ã¢â‚¬Â Ã¢â‚¬â€œ Krugman

J_AG, first thanks for the link. ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s looking more and more like when market is sovereign, pyramid operations become the name of the game even by the worldÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s supposedly most reputable banks.  

btw, great conversation going on here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ã¢â‚¬Å“Well, you could say that American bankers, empowered by a quarter-century of deregulatory zeal, led the world in finding sophisticated ways to enrich themselves by hiding risk and fooling investors.Ã¢â‚¬Â Ã¢â‚¬â€œ Krugman</p>
<p>J_AG, first thanks for the link. ItÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s looking more and more like when market is sovereign, pyramid operations become the name of the game even by the worldÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s supposedly most reputable banks.  </p>
<p>btw, great conversation going on here!</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/02/26/thoughts-on-stillborn-revolutions/comment-page-3/#comment-1027304</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.theblackbookofoutsourcing.com/docs/2009%20Year%20of%20Outsourcing%20Dangerously.pdf

^ this is a link to the pdf report...</description>
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<p>^ this is a link to the pdf report&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ramrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>ramrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks UPn, you just gave me some ammunition for a business proposal :)

Manila/Cebu/Makati Philippines 	
	
Local strife and obstructive forces to capitalism	2.05
Corruption and organized crime	                  7.89
Transnational and geographical issues	         3.96
Unstable currency	                                     4.27
Personal crime rate and police to citizen ratio	8.82
Unsecured &amp;Unprotected &amp; unprotected networks, infrasttructure, technology &amp; telephone	         6.96
Uncontrolled environmental waste and pollution	8.44
Terrorist and rebel target threats	                  8.65
Legal system immaturity	                           8.13
Weather &amp; climate hazards	                           8.9
Mean	                                             6.81</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks UPn, you just gave me some ammunition for a business proposal <img src='http://www.quezon.ph/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Manila/Cebu/Makati Philippines 	</p>
<p>Local strife and obstructive forces to capitalism	2.05<br />
Corruption and organized crime	                  7.89<br />
Transnational and geographical issues	         3.96<br />
Unstable currency	                                     4.27<br />
Personal crime rate and police to citizen ratio	8.82<br />
Unsecured &amp;Unprotected &amp; unprotected networks, infrasttructure, technology &amp; telephone	         6.96<br />
Uncontrolled environmental waste and pollution	8.44<br />
Terrorist and rebel target threats	                  8.65<br />
Legal system immaturity	                           8.13<br />
Weather &amp; climate hazards	                           8.9<br />
Mean	                                             6.81</p>
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