Comments on: Voices of the youth http://www.quezon.ph/2009/02/15/voices-of-the-youth/ Punditry. Politics. History. Commentary. Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:32:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Riposte « (Mis)readings http://www.quezon.ph/2009/02/15/voices-of-the-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-1023559 Riposte « (Mis)readings Thu, 19 Feb 2009 02:05:23 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=2524#comment-1023559 [...] 19Feb09 The links found at Quezon’s on the commotion in last Friday’s U.P. Fair had me laughing. This is a bit late as I’ve [...] [...] 19Feb09 The links found at Quezon’s on the commotion in last Friday’s U.P. Fair had me laughing. This is a bit late as I’ve [...]

]]> By: The Jologs In Our Midst » The Warrior Lawyer | Philippine Lawyer http://www.quezon.ph/2009/02/15/voices-of-the-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-1023489 The Jologs In Our Midst » The Warrior Lawyer | Philippine Lawyer Wed, 18 Feb 2009 06:18:36 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=2524#comment-1023489 [...] and started throwing paving slabs which were then lying along the Academic Oval. Manolo Quezon’s blog pointed me to several interesting posts on the incident, notably that of The Construct and the [...] [...] and started throwing paving slabs which were then lying along the Academic Oval. Manolo Quezon’s blog pointed me to several interesting posts on the incident, notably that of The Construct and the [...]

]]> By: UP n grad http://www.quezon.ph/2009/02/15/voices-of-the-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-1023298 UP n grad Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:16:53 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=2524#comment-1023298 to kristine: This <b>a tendency to blame the victim</b> is a trait common to many Filipinos. Your pockets got picked while riding a jeepney and one of the comments will be ".... ikaw kasi, nag-dyip ka kasi." To reinforce the point you make, had it been mga bakla -- or worse, Ateneans!!!! --- who threw stones and ruined the UP Fair, then fault would be shifted to those hooligans, not to the victims. [ Maybe there will not be a single soul who will say "... kung hindi sila nag perya-perya, hindi nagkagulo!!! Sa bahay sila dapat pag-dilim para mag-aral o mag-rosaryo". to kristine: This a tendency to blame the victim is a trait common to many Filipinos. Your pockets got picked while riding a jeepney and one of the comments will be “…. ikaw kasi, nag-dyip ka kasi.”

To reinforce the point you make, had it been mga bakla — or worse, Ateneans!!!! — who threw stones and ruined the UP Fair, then fault would be shifted to those hooligans, not to the victims. [ Maybe there will not be a single soul who will say “… kung hindi sila nag perya-perya, hindi nagkagulo!!! Sa bahay sila dapat pag-dilim para mag-aral o mag-rosaryo”.

]]> By: Bert http://www.quezon.ph/2009/02/15/voices-of-the-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-1023214 Bert Tue, 17 Feb 2009 06:22:21 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=2524#comment-1023214 "It just so happened that those punks came from the lower classes, that’s why they are being considered as the underdogs." Ah, here speaks the daughter of a Brahmin, the loathing for the Untouchables. “It just so happened that those punks came from the lower classes, that’s why they are being considered as the underdogs.”

Ah, here speaks the daughter of a Brahmin, the loathing for the Untouchables.

]]> By: Bert http://www.quezon.ph/2009/02/15/voices-of-the-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-1023210 Bert Tue, 17 Feb 2009 06:13:03 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=2524#comment-1023210 Heheh, no Phil, just a simple masa with a heart. Heheh, no Phil, just a simple masa with a heart.

]]> By: J_AG http://www.quezon.ph/2009/02/15/voices-of-the-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-1023162 J_AG Tue, 17 Feb 2009 03:33:03 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=2524#comment-1023162 The young today are the products of the every increasing specialized division of labor. Mostly narrow and focused on the technical aspects of their so called career choices made by them or by their parents for them. I am stunned by the ignorance of several so called bright graduates from the best schools trained for their particular disciplines but mostly oblivious to the framework around them. The lure of money is the all encompassing drive. The young today are the products of the every increasing specialized division of labor. Mostly narrow and focused on the technical aspects of their so called career choices made by them or by their parents for them.

I am stunned by the ignorance of several so called bright graduates from the best schools trained for their particular disciplines but mostly oblivious to the framework around them. The lure of money is the all encompassing drive.

]]> By: kristine0019 http://www.quezon.ph/2009/02/15/voices-of-the-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-1023134 kristine0019 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 02:22:18 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=2524#comment-1023134 UP n grad: "being holders of valid tickets does not sound like a good-enough reason for the (jerks) to use hooligan-tactics to crash through the gates and onto the Sunken Gardens." “I have a valid driver’s license and I have a car…. ergo, I can go through a red light.” Maybe those (hooligans) at UP fair thought they got promoted into a government-ranking official or something?" ----> This is what I have been to point out. Given that those hooligans were legitimate ticket holders, is that an excuse for them to endanger the safety of everyone who attended the UP Fair? It just so happened that those punks came from the lower classes, that's why they are being considered as the underdogs. Allow me to make my own re-write: “It’s not the fault of those who attended the UP Fair that the hooligans were denied entry into the concert ground." UP n grad:

“being holders of valid tickets does not sound like a good-enough reason for the (jerks) to use hooligan-tactics to crash through the gates and onto the Sunken Gardens.”

“I have a valid driver’s license and I have a car…. ergo, I can go through a red light.” Maybe those (hooligans) at UP fair thought they got promoted into a government-ranking official or something?”

—-> This is what I have been to point out. Given that those hooligans were legitimate ticket holders, is that an excuse for them to endanger the safety of everyone who attended the UP Fair? It just so happened that those punks came from the lower classes, that’s why they are being considered as the underdogs.

Allow me to make my own re-write:

“It’s not the fault of those who attended the UP Fair that the hooligans were denied entry into the concert ground.”

]]> By: UP n grad http://www.quezon.ph/2009/02/15/voices-of-the-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-1023056 UP n grad Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:34:12 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=2524#comment-1023056 good question, Bert. So here is a re-write. being holders of valid tickets does not sound like a good-enough reason for <strike>the jj’s</strike> <i>the jerks</i> to use hooligan-tactics to crash through the gates and onto the Sunken Gardens. “I have a valid driver’s license and I have a car…. ergo, I can go through a red light.” Maybe those <strike>jj’s</strike> <b> hooligans </b> at UP fair thought they got promoted into a government-ranking official or something? good question, Bert. So here is a re-write.

being holders of valid tickets does not sound like a good-enough reason for the jj’s the jerks to use hooligan-tactics to crash through the gates and onto the Sunken Gardens.

“I have a valid driver’s license and I have a car…. ergo, I can go through a red light.” Maybe those jj’s hooligans at UP fair thought they got promoted into a government-ranking official or something?

]]> By: Phil Manila http://www.quezon.ph/2009/02/15/voices-of-the-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-1023042 Phil Manila Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:36:40 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=2524#comment-1023042 The JJs rampage at the UP fair is not a class war in the surface, but it is a 'proxy' war between the haves inside the campus and the have-nots at the periphery. I believe things have gotten worse since those days when the jokes going around were: Bakit ka na-late? Mahirap mag-park sa AS. Di sana nag-ikot jeep ka na lang? I have no change. Could be just miscue by the organizers, but it could be a pot boiling. Shades of Yale University at New Haven Connecticut in the 1980s, if I may compare. Hmmm, Bert. 'Mamon'. Beta Sigman? The JJs rampage at the UP fair is not a class war in the surface, but it is a ‘proxy’ war between the haves inside the campus and the have-nots at the periphery. I believe things have gotten worse since those days when the jokes going around were:

Bakit ka na-late?
Mahirap mag-park sa AS.

Di sana nag-ikot jeep ka na lang?
I have no change.

Could be just miscue by the organizers, but it could be a pot boiling. Shades of Yale University at New Haven Connecticut in the 1980s, if I may compare.

Hmmm, Bert. ‘Mamon’. Beta Sigman?

]]> By: Bert http://www.quezon.ph/2009/02/15/voices-of-the-youth/comment-page-1/#comment-1023034 Bert Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:08:17 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=2524#comment-1023034 UP n, Being a UP-D insider yourself (my two daughters, one civil the other archi, are alumni too), can you say for certain those guys you call the jj's not UPeans like you and my kids once were, and that in fact they don't have tickets at the time? Just curious. UP n,

Being a UP-D insider yourself (my two daughters, one civil the other archi, are alumni too), can you say for certain those guys you call the jj’s not UPeans like you and my kids once were, and that in fact they don’t have tickets at the time? Just curious.

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