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		<title>By: The Long View: Do not enter : Manuel L. Quezon III: The Daily Dose</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/01/26/the-untouchables/comment-page-1/#comment-1076855</link>
		<dc:creator>The Long View: Do not enter : Manuel L. Quezon III: The Daily Dose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 04:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] cited our government’s own apprehensions (as voiced by the Philippine Drug Enforcement Agency (PDEA) over the possibility that drug money might affect the outcome of the May elections—or, for the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: d0d0ng</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/01/26/the-untouchables/comment-page-1/#comment-1017848</link>
		<dc:creator>d0d0ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl on, &quot;Had those Alabang boys been street urchins from the slums, instead of delinquents from gated communities, they would have been rubbed out, much to the approval of the middle and upper classes&quot;.

I can definitely agree on this. The Alabang boys are like a pot of gold. Somebody did not get his share and so the squabling to air dirty laundry.

Government solution - put in place the Butcher (Palparan). LOL.

Not bad as he is an expert in extrajudicial means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl on, &#8220;Had those Alabang boys been street urchins from the slums, instead of delinquents from gated communities, they would have been rubbed out, much to the approval of the middle and upper classes&#8221;.</p>
<p>I can definitely agree on this. The Alabang boys are like a pot of gold. Somebody did not get his share and so the squabling to air dirty laundry.</p>
<p>Government solution &#8211; put in place the Butcher (Palparan). LOL.</p>
<p>Not bad as he is an expert in extrajudicial means.</p>
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		<title>By: d0d0ng</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/01/26/the-untouchables/comment-page-1/#comment-1017845</link>
		<dc:creator>d0d0ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, it has been demonstrated that Philippine government bureaucracy is primariy a business undertaking. It has a place for everybody. The rich can always cash in for something it badly needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, it has been demonstrated that Philippine government bureaucracy is primariy a business undertaking. It has a place for everybody. The rich can always cash in for something it badly needed.</p>
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		<title>By: PhilwoSpEditor</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/01/26/the-untouchables/comment-page-1/#comment-1017684</link>
		<dc:creator>PhilwoSpEditor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh correction: I mean, compared to Davao, Manila is in many ways, less effective in the war for drugs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh correction: I mean, compared to Davao, Manila is in many ways, less effective in the war for drugs</p>
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		<title>By: PhilwoSpEditor</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/01/26/the-untouchables/comment-page-1/#comment-1017683</link>
		<dc:creator>PhilwoSpEditor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian B,

The Duterte Solution of letting vigilantes run amuck seems a better solution, instead of a shame campaign. Look what happened when Lim tried the shame campaign. Might as well have men in black motorcycles shoot down lawless elements. Compared to Manila, Davao is in many ways, less effective in the war for drugs. 

(I acknowledge they weren&#039;t failures... The succeeded in keeping Gloria the Tall story maker in the post, ridding the country of opposition.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian B,</p>
<p>The Duterte Solution of letting vigilantes run amuck seems a better solution, instead of a shame campaign. Look what happened when Lim tried the shame campaign. Might as well have men in black motorcycles shoot down lawless elements. Compared to Manila, Davao is in many ways, less effective in the war for drugs. </p>
<p>(I acknowledge they weren&#8217;t failures&#8230; The succeeded in keeping Gloria the Tall story maker in the post, ridding the country of opposition.)</p>
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		<title>By: supremo</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/01/26/the-untouchables/comment-page-1/#comment-1017631</link>
		<dc:creator>supremo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UP n grad,

&#039;Somehow, the church and the evangelicals and the parent-teachers-associations will get involved, too, so I would not be surprised that confusion and â€œâ€¦for the greater goodâ€ will continue to happen&#039;

Heaven help us if they join the fun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UP n grad,</p>
<p>&#8216;Somehow, the church and the evangelicals and the parent-teachers-associations will get involved, too, so I would not be surprised that confusion and â€œâ€¦for the greater goodâ€ will continue to happen&#8217;</p>
<p>Heaven help us if they join the fun.</p>
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		<title>By: UP n grad</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/01/26/the-untouchables/comment-page-1/#comment-1017630</link>
		<dc:creator>UP n grad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are beaucoup-huge profit margins on the trde in illegal drugs. A near-normal government, because it is &quot;... for the greater good&quot;, should only pull out a reasonable profit margin.  In other words,  shabu, marijuana, etcetera sold by the government (content with 50%-margin) should cost much lower than the same products from criminal elements (with their 800%-and-higher margins).  You should also expect bribery and government-skullduggery to disappear (if you believe in Santa Claus). 

Somehow, the church and the evangelicals and the parent-teachers-associations will get involved, too,  so I would not be surprised that confusion and &quot;...for the greater good&quot; will continue to happen. :razz:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are beaucoup-huge profit margins on the trde in illegal drugs. A near-normal government, because it is &#8220;&#8230; for the greater good&#8221;, should only pull out a reasonable profit margin.  In other words,  shabu, marijuana, etcetera sold by the government (content with 50%-margin) should cost much lower than the same products from criminal elements (with their 800%-and-higher margins).  You should also expect bribery and government-skullduggery to disappear (if you believe in Santa Claus). </p>
<p>Somehow, the church and the evangelicals and the parent-teachers-associations will get involved, too,  so I would not be surprised that confusion and &#8220;&#8230;for the greater good&#8221; will continue to happen. <img src='http://www.quezon.ph/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':razz:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: supremo</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/01/26/the-untouchables/comment-page-1/#comment-1017624</link>
		<dc:creator>supremo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>leytenian,

Proliferation of drugs will definitely increase usage but at least you know who are the users. I don&#039;t think parents will encourage there kids to use drugs. Shame will probably kick in if everyone knows that your kid is a drug user.

Let drug lords bring in there stuff from anywhere in the world. The law of supply and demand will determine the price..

I&#039;m not saying there will be no law. The drug pusher will still need a license and the drug user can only consume the drugs in the drug pusher&#039;s place. Again, shame might kick in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>leytenian,</p>
<p>Proliferation of drugs will definitely increase usage but at least you know who are the users. I don&#8217;t think parents will encourage there kids to use drugs. Shame will probably kick in if everyone knows that your kid is a drug user.</p>
<p>Let drug lords bring in there stuff from anywhere in the world. The law of supply and demand will determine the price..</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying there will be no law. The drug pusher will still need a license and the drug user can only consume the drugs in the drug pusher&#8217;s place. Again, shame might kick in.</p>
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		<title>By: leytenian</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/01/26/the-untouchables/comment-page-1/#comment-1017601</link>
		<dc:creator>leytenian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On legalizing drugs, that is impossible to implement. the Philippines would be in violation of international treaty if we will create a legal market in cocaine, marijuana, and other drugs. Philippines is one of the many countries who reaffirmed its commitment to strong drug laws with United Nations. 

But letâ€™s talk about it for discussion purposes. 

Legalization will increase supply and will decrease the price. Availability is a leading factor to increase drug use. Increase use of addictive drug will lead to increase addiction. 

Legalizing drugs will not eliminate illegal drug trafficking nor the violence associated with the illegal drug trade. An underground economy would still exist unless all addictive drugs in all strengths were made available to all ages in unlimited quantity.

Rule of Law: Strong drug laws will refrain people from using drugs. Surveys show that the fear of people getting in trouble with the law constitutes a major reason not to use drugs. Our rule of law is weak. It releases drug pushers from jail and prosecutors can be bought. 

Import and Export: Strong domestic law will discourage foreign drug lords from penetrating. Is our port strong? Are employees in our port honest and understand the consequences or majority can be bought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On legalizing drugs, that is impossible to implement. the Philippines would be in violation of international treaty if we will create a legal market in cocaine, marijuana, and other drugs. Philippines is one of the many countries who reaffirmed its commitment to strong drug laws with United Nations. </p>
<p>But letâ€™s talk about it for discussion purposes. </p>
<p>Legalization will increase supply and will decrease the price. Availability is a leading factor to increase drug use. Increase use of addictive drug will lead to increase addiction. </p>
<p>Legalizing drugs will not eliminate illegal drug trafficking nor the violence associated with the illegal drug trade. An underground economy would still exist unless all addictive drugs in all strengths were made available to all ages in unlimited quantity.</p>
<p>Rule of Law: Strong drug laws will refrain people from using drugs. Surveys show that the fear of people getting in trouble with the law constitutes a major reason not to use drugs. Our rule of law is weak. It releases drug pushers from jail and prosecutors can be bought. </p>
<p>Import and Export: Strong domestic law will discourage foreign drug lords from penetrating. Is our port strong? Are employees in our port honest and understand the consequences or majority can be bought.</p>
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		<title>By: supremo</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2009/01/26/the-untouchables/comment-page-1/#comment-1017589</link>
		<dc:creator>supremo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Philippine government cannot enforce the dangerous drugs law then it might as well regulate the use of those illegal drugs. Let&#039;s take marihjuana as an exampe. There should be a place where you can buy marijuana and consume it. If someone is caught consuming the stick outside of the marijuana place then give the user and the owner of the place a ticket. No need to haul them to court. That&#039;s just a waste of government resources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Philippine government cannot enforce the dangerous drugs law then it might as well regulate the use of those illegal drugs. Let&#8217;s take marihjuana as an exampe. There should be a place where you can buy marijuana and consume it. If someone is caught consuming the stick outside of the marijuana place then give the user and the owner of the place a ticket. No need to haul them to court. That&#8217;s just a waste of government resources.</p>
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