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	<title>Comments on: Mike and Joe: The Second Battle of the Books</title>
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		<title>By: mlq3</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/11/25/mike-and-joe-the-second-battle-of-the-books/comment-page-1/#comment-1023300</link>
		<dc:creator>mlq3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rob, wasn&#039;t it as much to JEE depriving congressmen of their prok barrel or proposing to reduce the pork barrel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rob, wasn&#8217;t it as much to JEE depriving congressmen of their prok barrel or proposing to reduce the pork barrel?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob' Ramos</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/11/25/mike-and-joe-the-second-battle-of-the-books/comment-page-1/#comment-1023232</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob' Ramos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 07:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ istambay

Its numbers when its on the floor of the House. The 1/3 clause is actually ingenious because it allows even an Opposition not in command of the HoR to push an impeachment despite the lack of numbers. As the Erap Impeachment showed, it CAN be (and WAS) done.

Facts matter when the real trial happens in the Senate. The Impeachment Trial of 2000 - 2001 showed that, too. And how brazen-ness can cost even the most secure, as evidenced by the way the Second Envelope was massacred. TAO dancing on the wounded body of our decency and Constitution ON NATIONWIDE TELEVISION had a very... provocative effect.

But then, you have to get it to the Senate first. And to do that you need numbers, and a Speaker willing and... creative enough to get it past the Majority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ istambay</p>
<p>Its numbers when its on the floor of the House. The 1/3 clause is actually ingenious because it allows even an Opposition not in command of the HoR to push an impeachment despite the lack of numbers. As the Erap Impeachment showed, it CAN be (and WAS) done.</p>
<p>Facts matter when the real trial happens in the Senate. The Impeachment Trial of 2000 &#8211; 2001 showed that, too. And how brazen-ness can cost even the most secure, as evidenced by the way the Second Envelope was massacred. TAO dancing on the wounded body of our decency and Constitution ON NATIONWIDE TELEVISION had a very&#8230; provocative effect.</p>
<p>But then, you have to get it to the Senate first. And to do that you need numbers, and a Speaker willing and&#8230; creative enough to get it past the Majority.</p>
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		<title>By: The Praetorian temptation : Manuel L. Quezon III: The Daily Dose</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/11/25/mike-and-joe-the-second-battle-of-the-books/comment-page-1/#comment-1022891</link>
		<dc:creator>The Praetorian temptation : Manuel L. Quezon III: The Daily Dose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the President&#8217;s own husband recounted their strategy for bringing down Estrada (see my entry, Mike and Joe: The Second Battle of the Books, where I reproduced Mike Arroyo&#8217;s interviews with Nick Joaquin) soon after the events [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the President&#8217;s own husband recounted their strategy for bringing down Estrada (see my entry, Mike and Joe: The Second Battle of the Books, where I reproduced Mike Arroyo&#8217;s interviews with Nick Joaquin) soon after the events [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Current &#187; The Praetorian temptation</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/11/25/mike-and-joe-the-second-battle-of-the-books/comment-page-1/#comment-1022887</link>
		<dc:creator>Current &#187; The Praetorian temptation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the President&#8217;s own husband recounted their strategy for bringing down Estrada (see my entry, Mike and Joe: The Second Battle of the Books, where I reproduced Mike Arroyo&#8217;s interviews with Nick Joaquin) soon after the events [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the President&#8217;s own husband recounted their strategy for bringing down Estrada (see my entry, Mike and Joe: The Second Battle of the Books, where I reproduced Mike Arroyo&#8217;s interviews with Nick Joaquin) soon after the events [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rego</title>
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		<dc:creator>rego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 22:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aysus nag tatanong ka pa eh alam mo naman ng lahat na buo na ang isip mo tungkol sa SC. tigilannaang kaipokrituhan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aysus nag tatanong ka pa eh alam mo naman ng lahat na buo na ang isip mo tungkol sa SC. tigilannaang kaipokrituhan</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Manila</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/11/25/mike-and-joe-the-second-battle-of-the-books/comment-page-1/#comment-996507</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Manila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 17:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Congress junked the recent impeachment complaint against PGMA, NOT TO WORRY. 

We all know that the IMPEACHMENT  is a POLITICAL  PROCESS with pseudo RULES ON EVIDENCE.

The BIG WORRY: 

HOW INDEPENDENT THE SUPREME COURT  WILL REMAIN???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Congress junked the recent impeachment complaint against PGMA, NOT TO WORRY. </p>
<p>We all know that the IMPEACHMENT  is a POLITICAL  PROCESS with pseudo RULES ON EVIDENCE.</p>
<p>The BIG WORRY: </p>
<p>HOW INDEPENDENT THE SUPREME COURT  WILL REMAIN???</p>
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		<title>By: Mandaragat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandaragat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 11:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...accept defeat and move on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;accept defeat and move on!</p>
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		<title>By: istambay_sakalye</title>
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		<dc:creator>istambay_sakalye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>scalia, my friend, tsk tsk tsk, now look who&#039;s paranoid? is it just me?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scalia, my friend, tsk tsk tsk, now look who&#8217;s paranoid? is it just me?</p>
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		<title>By: anthony scalia</title>
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		<dc:creator>anthony scalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 09:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>istambay_sakalye :

&quot;scalia, my friend, sino ba ang nagpapadala sa emosyon? i just stated what i thought you meant. no spin, no twisting, nothing at all. i even thanked you. it seems to me youâ€™re having some difficulty taking a complement. anyway, thank you again.&quot;

with the tone of your most recent posts? 

yeah right</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>istambay_sakalye :</p>
<p>&#8220;scalia, my friend, sino ba ang nagpapadala sa emosyon? i just stated what i thought you meant. no spin, no twisting, nothing at all. i even thanked you. it seems to me youâ€™re having some difficulty taking a complement. anyway, thank you again.&#8221;</p>
<p>with the tone of your most recent posts? </p>
<p>yeah right</p>
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		<title>By: istambay_sakalye</title>
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		<dc:creator>istambay_sakalye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 08:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>scalia, my friend, sino ba ang nagpapadala sa emosyon? i just stated what i thought you meant. no spin, no twisting, nothing at all. i even thanked you. it seems to me you&#039;re having some difficulty taking a complement. anyway, thank you again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scalia, my friend, sino ba ang nagpapadala sa emosyon? i just stated what i thought you meant. no spin, no twisting, nothing at all. i even thanked you. it seems to me you&#8217;re having some difficulty taking a complement. anyway, thank you again.</p>
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