Comments on: Looking South: Are there really “outsiders” in the Mindanao issue? http://www.quezon.ph/2008/10/25/looking-south-are-there-really-outsiders-in-the-mindanao-issue/ Punditry. Politics. History. Commentary. Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:23:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Motorcycle http://www.quezon.ph/2008/10/25/looking-south-are-there-really-outsiders-in-the-mindanao-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-1046903 Motorcycle Sun, 14 Jun 2009 11:17:39 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1976#comment-1046903 I agree with Bert. It is their right to look at the gems, or the murks on their choices. I agree with Bert. It is their right to look at the gems, or the murks on their choices.

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]]> By: Bert http://www.quezon.ph/2008/10/25/looking-south-are-there-really-outsiders-in-the-mindanao-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-981641 Bert Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:45:21 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1976#comment-981641 No people, or nation, is perfect, the flaws are scattered around, everywhere. Bashing oneself on the head is a pervert act, a masochistic and sadistic behaviour. The Philippines has its murks and its gems, it's for us whether we want to look at the gems, or the murks. No people, or nation, is perfect, the flaws are scattered around, everywhere.

Bashing oneself on the head is a pervert act, a masochistic and sadistic behaviour.

The Philippines has its murks and its gems, it’s for us whether we want to look at the gems, or the murks.

]]> By: antwr http://www.quezon.ph/2008/10/25/looking-south-are-there-really-outsiders-in-the-mindanao-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-981558 antwr Wed, 29 Oct 2008 10:07:36 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1976#comment-981558 I agree with hvrds. the Philippines is a fabricated state. Read Joseph Fallon's "The Fabricated State" it is in the internet. Read also David Martinez's "A Country of Our Own". Can you imagine the Philippines is named after a syphilitic King of Spain? We should just break-up the Philippines into a confederacy. The center must fall. I love it in the Philippines because if you are an OLIGARCH life if wonderfull. EVERYTHING IS WONDERFULLY CORRUPT IN THIS COUNTRY AND THE SMELL OF DECAY LIKE THE SEDUCTIVE APPEAL OF A TRASHY WOMAN IS EVERYWHERE IN THIS COUNTRY. THE BODY AND SOUL OF THE FILIPINOS ARE FOR SALE INCLUDING YOU MANOLO. I BET IF I GAVE YOU A MILLION DOLLARS YOU WOULD EVEN SELL YOUR PSEUDO-NATIONALISM AND EVEN BECOME A MORO NATIONALIST ADVOCATE. HAHA "PERA-PERA LANG", "BUHAY-BUHAY LANG", "WEATHER-WEATHER LANG" THOSE ARE THE WORDS FILIPINOS LIVE BY. FILIPINOS ARE THE ULTIMATE PRAGMATISTS, REALISTS AND THE NUMERO UNO PROSTITUTES OF THE WORLD AND THE MODERN SLAVES OF THE WORLD THRU OUR OFWs. I LOVE IT HERE. ITS LIKE A MODERN DAY SODOM AND GOMMORA. I agree with hvrds. the Philippines is a fabricated state. Read Joseph Fallon’s “The Fabricated State” it is in the internet. Read also David Martinez’s “A Country of Our Own”. Can you imagine the Philippines is named after a syphilitic King of Spain? We should just break-up the Philippines into a confederacy. The center must fall. I love it in the Philippines because if you are an OLIGARCH life if wonderfull. EVERYTHING IS WONDERFULLY CORRUPT IN THIS COUNTRY AND THE SMELL OF DECAY LIKE THE SEDUCTIVE APPEAL OF A TRASHY WOMAN IS EVERYWHERE IN THIS COUNTRY. THE BODY AND SOUL OF THE FILIPINOS ARE FOR SALE INCLUDING YOU MANOLO. I BET IF I GAVE YOU A MILLION DOLLARS YOU WOULD EVEN SELL YOUR PSEUDO-NATIONALISM AND EVEN BECOME A MORO NATIONALIST ADVOCATE. HAHA “PERA-PERA LANG”, “BUHAY-BUHAY LANG”, “WEATHER-WEATHER LANG” THOSE ARE THE WORDS FILIPINOS LIVE BY. FILIPINOS ARE THE ULTIMATE PRAGMATISTS, REALISTS AND THE NUMERO UNO PROSTITUTES OF THE WORLD AND THE MODERN SLAVES OF THE WORLD THRU OUR OFWs. I LOVE IT HERE. ITS LIKE A MODERN DAY SODOM AND GOMMORA.

]]> By: Safe Real Estate Info » Blog Archive » Looking South: Are there really “outsiders” in the Mindanao issue? http://www.quezon.ph/2008/10/25/looking-south-are-there-really-outsiders-in-the-mindanao-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-980824 Safe Real Estate Info » Blog Archive » Looking South: Are there really “outsiders” in the Mindanao issue? Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:41:12 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1976#comment-980824 [...] mlq3 wrote an interesting post today onLooking South: Are there really â??outsidersâ?? in the Mindanao issue?Here’s a quick excerptMy experience of Mindanao began in the late 80s and to the 1990s with close friends from Davao, who themselves had been sent to Manila by anxious parents worried over the violence in their city; and so it was as much through their eyes … [...] [...] mlq3 wrote an interesting post today onLooking South: Are there really â??outsidersâ?? in the Mindanao issue?Here’s a quick excerptMy experience of Mindanao began in the late 80s and to the 1990s with close friends from Davao, who themselves had been sent to Manila by anxious parents worried over the violence in their city; and so it was as much through their eyes … [...]

]]> By: Solly http://www.quezon.ph/2008/10/25/looking-south-are-there-really-outsiders-in-the-mindanao-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-980613 Solly Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:03:38 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1976#comment-980613 Don't forget that there are outsider-outsiders who are interested in what happens in Mindanao AND also wield extra-ordinary influence. These outsiders are foreigners, the list will include: 1. JI and bin Laden caliphate movement; 2. Malaysia -- monitoring team; "others teams" 3. Saudi Arabia -- Wahhabism 4. Syria - Sunni 5. Utah -- Mormons 6. USA-wide evangelicals 7. Vatican 8. USA -- special forces 9. USA -- diplomatic initiatives 10. Mainland China -- businesses interested in farms 11. Canadian interests -- mining 12. United Nations =============== A couple of the outsiders have big wallets AND are very much pro-theocracy. Don’t forget that there are outsider-outsiders who are interested in what happens in Mindanao AND also wield extra-ordinary influence. These outsiders are foreigners, the list will include:
1. JI and bin Laden caliphate movement;
2. Malaysia — monitoring team; “others teams”
3. Saudi Arabia — Wahhabism
4. Syria – Sunni
5. Utah — Mormons
6. USA-wide evangelicals
7. Vatican
8. USA — special forces
9. USA — diplomatic initiatives
10. Mainland China — businesses interested in farms
11. Canadian interests — mining
12. United Nations

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A couple of the outsiders have big wallets AND are very much pro-theocracy.

]]> By: taxj http://www.quezon.ph/2008/10/25/looking-south-are-there-really-outsiders-in-the-mindanao-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-980563 taxj Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:08:17 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1976#comment-980563 A Muslim state? Why not make the rest Christian? Or at least one or two? Any theocratic state is a rotten tomato! Or any other state under the proposed federalism for that matter. An unwieldy bureaucracy called states hovering over the shoulders of LGU's is worse than Imperial Manila. As if the mere process of setting up the structure alone is not messy enough! Of course the present set-up is a mess. But Congress could clear it up if it chooses to. Or if forced or pressured. Fiscal federalism, not necessarily the 20-80 formula dangled by Senator Nene Pimentel, is allowable under the present charter. Anyway, devolution of wealth and power is an issue larger than Gloria and all her scams put together. The least we can do is subject it to a debate, As we do in fedecentralize. A Muslim state? Why not make the rest Christian? Or at least one or two? Any theocratic state is a rotten tomato! Or any other state under the proposed federalism for that matter.

An unwieldy bureaucracy called states hovering over the shoulders of LGU’s is worse than Imperial Manila. As if the mere process of setting up the structure alone is not messy enough!

Of course the present set-up is a mess. But Congress could clear it up if it chooses to. Or if forced or pressured. Fiscal federalism, not necessarily the 20-80 formula dangled by Senator Nene Pimentel, is allowable under the present charter.

Anyway, devolution of wealth and power is an issue larger than Gloria and all her scams put together. The least we can do is subject it to a debate, As we do in fedecentralize.

]]> By: Bert http://www.quezon.ph/2008/10/25/looking-south-are-there-really-outsiders-in-the-mindanao-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-980447 Bert Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:43:14 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1976#comment-980447 Are there really "outsiders" in the Mindanao conflict? Depends. If "outsider" means an insider refusing to be intimidated by the real insider then whoever is thrown out is the real outsider. Are there really “outsiders” in the Mindanao conflict?

Depends. If “outsider” means an insider refusing to be intimidated by the real insider then whoever is thrown out is the real outsider.

]]> By: kam http://www.quezon.ph/2008/10/25/looking-south-are-there-really-outsiders-in-the-mindanao-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-980271 kam Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:32:14 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1976#comment-980271 Mindanao native people fighting for the land, freedom and justice. The war in mindanao is not about religion / islam against christian or vise versa. The war in mindanao is like filipino people fighting for independence & freedom against spain and american because filipinos before like jose rizal and andres bonifacio believed that they are not spanish nor american and believed that filipinas sland belong to filipino people. It is the same to native mindanao people mindanao belong to them not for filipinos. Mindanao native people fighting for the land, freedom and justice. The war in mindanao is not about religion / islam against christian or vise versa. The war in mindanao is like filipino people fighting for independence & freedom against spain and american because filipinos before like jose rizal and andres bonifacio believed that they are not spanish nor american and believed that filipinas sland belong to filipino people. It is the same to native mindanao people mindanao belong to them not for filipinos.

]]> By: Liam Tinio http://www.quezon.ph/2008/10/25/looking-south-are-there-really-outsiders-in-the-mindanao-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-980230 Liam Tinio Mon, 27 Oct 2008 07:57:06 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1976#comment-980230 my take: conferderation like the greek city states my take: conferderation like the greek city states

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