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		<title>By: reydan</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/08/04/peace-in-our-time/comment-page-5/#comment-910002</link>
		<dc:creator>reydan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 04:55:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>trouble is everywhere. To have a rightful relationship between human beings and stability of the social order we must act with justice, give everyone his due, and observe honesty and good faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trouble is everywhere. To have a rightful relationship between human beings and stability of the social order we must act with justice, give everyone his due, and observe honesty and good faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Arnold</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/08/04/peace-in-our-time/comment-page-5/#comment-909973</link>
		<dc:creator>Arnold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: grd</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/08/04/peace-in-our-time/comment-page-5/#comment-908338</link>
		<dc:creator>grd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; Say the MILF is knocking your door and told you to move out because it is their ancestral domain supported by the government initialed MOA-AD. The justices in Padre Faura give you assurance that everything is on hold though hardly can be enforced when the military enforcer through its general is saying, sorry we cannot help you.

That is something close to reality... &lt;/blockquote&gt;

nah. all you have to do is wake up from your stupor... refer back to my 3:13am comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> Say the MILF is knocking your door and told you to move out because it is their ancestral domain supported by the government initialed MOA-AD. The justices in Padre Faura give you assurance that everything is on hold though hardly can be enforced when the military enforcer through its general is saying, sorry we cannot help you.</p>
<p>That is something close to reality&#8230; </p></blockquote>
<p>nah. all you have to do is wake up from your stupor&#8230; refer back to my 3:13am comment.</p>
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		<title>By: grd</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/08/04/peace-in-our-time/comment-page-5/#comment-908330</link>
		<dc:creator>grd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; what options do you have, other than the court? .. dodong &lt;/blockquote&gt; 

dodong, or shall we say, what options do you have or the MILF or the GRP if the court decides that the MOA-AD is unconstitutional? starts massing troops? grab christian farmlands? you say govt has no control over MILF&#039;s territories(?), like North Cotabato and PINOL WILL NOT GET SUPPORT FROM THE MILITARY? well, the MILITARY just gave the MILF the ultimatum to leave the area. what&#039;s your next option?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> what options do you have, other than the court? .. dodong </p></blockquote>
<p>dodong, or shall we say, what options do you have or the MILF or the GRP if the court decides that the MOA-AD is unconstitutional? starts massing troops? grab christian farmlands? you say govt has no control over MILF&#8217;s territories(?), like North Cotabato and PINOL WILL NOT GET SUPPORT FROM THE MILITARY? well, the MILITARY just gave the MILF the ultimatum to leave the area. what&#8217;s your next option?</p>
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		<title>By: grd</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/08/04/peace-in-our-time/comment-page-5/#comment-908289</link>
		<dc:creator>grd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 18:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi Justice,

sorry for making you uncomfortable. the joke was meant for those conspiracy theorists. i don&#039;t think anyone in mindanao could have heard such a brilliant story. mahathir will not like it. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi Justice,</p>
<p>sorry for making you uncomfortable. the joke was meant for those conspiracy theorists. i don&#8217;t think anyone in mindanao could have heard such a brilliant story. mahathir will not like it. <img src='http://www.quezon.ph/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: pushprojectileagainstpropellant</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/08/04/peace-in-our-time/comment-page-5/#comment-906896</link>
		<dc:creator>pushprojectileagainstpropellant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Aug 2008 11:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Philippine military is perfectly capable of wiping out these &quot;rebels,&quot; ask anyone you know in the afp and they will tell you how offensive after offensive are halted just as they are about to be overwhelmed (except in Erap&#039;s time). How can you win if you&#039;re being held back?
This is too much, a Singaporean once commented that we Filipinos have very low self esteem and some of us are just good at keeping a facade. We could have put a stop to Gloria during the &quot;Hello Garci,&quot; pa lang. We&#039;re still tolerating her and her minions the way we tolerate the mindless, idiotic, tirades of pseudo-intellectual non-entities like BENCARD, DODONG,  and the rest of the pretenders here...how much are you getting paid ba talaga???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Philippine military is perfectly capable of wiping out these &#8220;rebels,&#8221; ask anyone you know in the afp and they will tell you how offensive after offensive are halted just as they are about to be overwhelmed (except in Erap&#8217;s time). How can you win if you&#8217;re being held back?<br />
This is too much, a Singaporean once commented that we Filipinos have very low self esteem and some of us are just good at keeping a facade. We could have put a stop to Gloria during the &#8220;Hello Garci,&#8221; pa lang. We&#8217;re still tolerating her and her minions the way we tolerate the mindless, idiotic, tirades of pseudo-intellectual non-entities like BENCARD, DODONG,  and the rest of the pretenders here&#8230;how much are you getting paid ba talaga???</p>
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		<title>By: TonGuE-tWisTeD</title>
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		<dc:creator>TonGuE-tWisTeD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dodong, I believe Manolo was referring to the DVD pirates&#039; production, not the legit film/video production</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dodong, I believe Manolo was referring to the DVD pirates&#8217; production, not the legit film/video production</p>
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		<title>By: d0d0ng</title>
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		<dc:creator>d0d0ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;would it not be safe to assume that we already see the economic orientation of a future bje, and that would be with malaysia as its focus? the dvd distribution system is anchored on malaysia, with the moro areas as the distribution center and the philippines as the target market but not center of production.&quot;

It is the other way around. The culture in Malaysia and Singapore is more restrictive than in the Philippines which made a decline of artists in those 2 countries. In fact, they have to hire foreign entertainers as explained to us by our expat friends in Malaysia.And so is the production of videos too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;would it not be safe to assume that we already see the economic orientation of a future bje, and that would be with malaysia as its focus? the dvd distribution system is anchored on malaysia, with the moro areas as the distribution center and the philippines as the target market but not center of production.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is the other way around. The culture in Malaysia and Singapore is more restrictive than in the Philippines which made a decline of artists in those 2 countries. In fact, they have to hire foreign entertainers as explained to us by our expat friends in Malaysia.And so is the production of videos too.</p>
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		<title>By: mlp</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 14:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our case is unique and entirely different from other type of self determination experience.
In the case of the native americans, they are a legitimate &quot;First Nation&quot; to the european americans but their ancestral domain is still within the context of the US Constitution. In our case we are all First Nation including the aeta and before the europeans came who split into  Muslim Bangsamoro and Bayan-indio Kristiano.
In the case of India and Pakistan, their separateness between widu and muslim preceded the grant of independence and partition was inevitable. 
In the case of East Timor, their separateness and distinctiveness precedes the transfer from the Dutch to the Indonesian Government. Besides, the Indonesian Government forcibly has forcibly taken their homeland and rule it without concern to the Timorese People. 
In the case of Singapore, the Federation of Malaya enthusiastically gave them away because the ethnic Chinese are threat to the Malay.
In our case the Americans waged and won a pacification campaign from 1902 to 1913 and thenceforth gave the moros good government. From 1913 until 1971, integration, assimilation or any cooperation in some form if not successful never led to secession or any independence ideas. It was only  at the time of  President Marcos when Mindanao Muslim leaders started entertaining secession and independence. This failure in good governance from 1971 until now is the pestering cause of Muslim leaders&#039; craving for their own homeland, Not only them but even Mindanao christian leaders want their own homeland.
But what homeland?. The Philippines is our homeland. It is the homeland of Muslim and Christians. Give us leaders of good government and nobody will cry for its own homeland. Continue with bad government and everybody will secede and seek for their own homeland. Give the filipinos  good leaders and good government and nobody will seek for their own homeland. 
If we give MILF their own homeland and they give governance will I be allowed to join them and petition my beloved island of Panay to join them. I will rather join them than move to other countries and work as an &quot;ulipon&quot; Let us stop all this talk talk and talk. Let us consult each other for one year and hold a plebiscite not only for bangsamoro but for ilocanos,  tagalogs, bicolanos, visayans and all indigenous people if we want to stay with the present bad and corrupt leaders and government or we just go our own way. If we give this privilege to the milf why not give this to all the ethnic groups of the country. At the very least, I would rather be that we are assured of getting our 75 % share of the wealth of our ancestral domain, than stay with the Strong Republic whom I believe waste 90% of our resources and only give 10 % if ever back to the people.  
LONG LIVE the MOA-AD but apply it equally to the filipino people. NO NBN-ZTE!NO SWINE SCAM, NO JOCJOC BOLANTE, ETC! Ad Nauseam! Let us try MOA-AD if this is the only way  we can shake and cleanse ourselves of corruption and injustices. The MILF succeeded to do this because a lot of foreign governments and the bangsamoro people  has supported their aspirations!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our case is unique and entirely different from other type of self determination experience.<br />
In the case of the native americans, they are a legitimate &#8220;First Nation&#8221; to the european americans but their ancestral domain is still within the context of the US Constitution. In our case we are all First Nation including the aeta and before the europeans came who split into  Muslim Bangsamoro and Bayan-indio Kristiano.<br />
In the case of India and Pakistan, their separateness between widu and muslim preceded the grant of independence and partition was inevitable.<br />
In the case of East Timor, their separateness and distinctiveness precedes the transfer from the Dutch to the Indonesian Government. Besides, the Indonesian Government forcibly has forcibly taken their homeland and rule it without concern to the Timorese People.<br />
In the case of Singapore, the Federation of Malaya enthusiastically gave them away because the ethnic Chinese are threat to the Malay.<br />
In our case the Americans waged and won a pacification campaign from 1902 to 1913 and thenceforth gave the moros good government. From 1913 until 1971, integration, assimilation or any cooperation in some form if not successful never led to secession or any independence ideas. It was only  at the time of  President Marcos when Mindanao Muslim leaders started entertaining secession and independence. This failure in good governance from 1971 until now is the pestering cause of Muslim leaders&#8217; craving for their own homeland, Not only them but even Mindanao christian leaders want their own homeland.<br />
But what homeland?. The Philippines is our homeland. It is the homeland of Muslim and Christians. Give us leaders of good government and nobody will cry for its own homeland. Continue with bad government and everybody will secede and seek for their own homeland. Give the filipinos  good leaders and good government and nobody will seek for their own homeland.<br />
If we give MILF their own homeland and they give governance will I be allowed to join them and petition my beloved island of Panay to join them. I will rather join them than move to other countries and work as an &#8220;ulipon&#8221; Let us stop all this talk talk and talk. Let us consult each other for one year and hold a plebiscite not only for bangsamoro but for ilocanos,  tagalogs, bicolanos, visayans and all indigenous people if we want to stay with the present bad and corrupt leaders and government or we just go our own way. If we give this privilege to the milf why not give this to all the ethnic groups of the country. At the very least, I would rather be that we are assured of getting our 75 % share of the wealth of our ancestral domain, than stay with the Strong Republic whom I believe waste 90% of our resources and only give 10 % if ever back to the people.<br />
LONG LIVE the MOA-AD but apply it equally to the filipino people. NO NBN-ZTE!NO SWINE SCAM, NO JOCJOC BOLANTE, ETC! Ad Nauseam! Let us try MOA-AD if this is the only way  we can shake and cleanse ourselves of corruption and injustices. The MILF succeeded to do this because a lot of foreign governments and the bangsamoro people  has supported their aspirations!</p>
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		<title>By: UP n student</title>
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		<dc:creator>UP n student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A progressive  :wink: recommendation, courtesy of d0d0ng.  The recommendation: 
&lt;blockquote&gt;The best thing the Phils. could do is integrate with both Malaysia and Indonesia... &lt;/blockquote&gt;

The &quot;progressive&quot; part??? &lt;blockquote&gt; 

Of all the major groups in Asia the Malay group is the most backward.  &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A progressive  <img src='http://www.quezon.ph/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=':wink:' class='wp-smiley' />  recommendation, courtesy of d0d0ng.  The recommendation: </p>
<blockquote><p>The best thing the Phils. could do is integrate with both Malaysia and Indonesia&#8230; </p></blockquote>
<p>The &#8220;progressive&#8221; part???<br />
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<p>Of all the major groups in Asia the Malay group is the most backward.  </p></blockquote>
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