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	<title>Comments on: Victory gardens and that &#8220;Perfect Storm&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: cvj</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/07/08/victory-gardens-and-that-perfect-storm/comment-page-2/#comment-863598</link>
		<dc:creator>cvj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 15:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Nash.</description>
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		<title>By: nash</title>
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		<dc:creator>nash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@cvj

re: negative feedback...you are so geeky. LOL.  indeed, electing trapos is like positive feedback, we are trapped in a cycle....</description>
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<p>re: negative feedback&#8230;you are so geeky. LOL.  indeed, electing trapos is like positive feedback, we are trapped in a cycle&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: nash</title>
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		<dc:creator>nash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@supremo

yes, but we should ALSO skip the rotten eggs (even if they were born after 1960)...otherwise we are just trapped in a cycle. hindi lang gamot na expired ang iwasan, pati rin ang PEKENG gamot.

kaya nga &#039;trapo&#039; for the word &#039;traditional&#039; defined as a negative trait. 

by 2010 we will be 90 Million, that&#039;s a large talent pool.</description>
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<p>yes, but we should ALSO skip the rotten eggs (even if they were born after 1960)&#8230;otherwise we are just trapped in a cycle. hindi lang gamot na expired ang iwasan, pati rin ang PEKENG gamot.</p>
<p>kaya nga &#8216;trapo&#8217; for the word &#8216;traditional&#8217; defined as a negative trait. </p>
<p>by 2010 we will be 90 Million, that&#8217;s a large talent pool.</p>
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		<title>By: leytenian</title>
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		<dc:creator>leytenian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 01:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UP N
&quot;Liam and leytenean: The singaporean model is â€œonly high value work(banking,finance,outsourcing,etc) is being done in singapore, while low value work(farming and manufacturing to some extent) be done by other countries (or by imported low-cost labor)â€. Do you not get the impression this model does not work in Pinas because Pinas poor are less educated and less productive?&quot;

the model will not work in pinas not because we are less educated but maybe non productive because our government do not know how to create employment for our people to become productive. the filipinos are tired. the expectation of righteous performance has been promised but broken. the system of good governance do not exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UP N<br />
&#8220;Liam and leytenean: The singaporean model is â€œonly high value work(banking,finance,outsourcing,etc) is being done in singapore, while low value work(farming and manufacturing to some extent) be done by other countries (or by imported low-cost labor)â€. Do you not get the impression this model does not work in Pinas because Pinas poor are less educated and less productive?&#8221;</p>
<p>the model will not work in pinas not because we are less educated but maybe non productive because our government do not know how to create employment for our people to become productive. the filipinos are tired. the expectation of righteous performance has been promised but broken. the system of good governance do not exist.</p>
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		<title>By: KG</title>
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		<dc:creator>KG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 22:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cvj,

oooops! forgot about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cvj,</p>
<p>oooops! forgot about that.</p>
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		<title>By: supremo</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/07/08/victory-gardens-and-that-perfect-storm/comment-page-2/#comment-862606</link>
		<dc:creator>supremo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 20:22:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nash,

All I&#039;m saying nash is GMA&#039;s generation is over. Skip Villar, Legarda, Roxas, Fernando and everybody else in that generation who wants to be President. Ika nga sa gamot expired na ang mga yan. It&#039;s time for those who were born in the late 1960s to lead the Philippines. I don&#039;t care if they are trapo or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nash,</p>
<p>All I&#8217;m saying nash is GMA&#8217;s generation is over. Skip Villar, Legarda, Roxas, Fernando and everybody else in that generation who wants to be President. Ika nga sa gamot expired na ang mga yan. It&#8217;s time for those who were born in the late 1960s to lead the Philippines. I don&#8217;t care if they are trapo or not.</p>
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		<title>By: PSI</title>
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		<dc:creator>PSI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:29:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t give up on the sick man of Asia, not just yet.  Yes, things are bad. And sure, things will get worse. There are symptoms, but the country  will not be a failed state. Just watch the oligarchs and taipans. If there are signs of huge disinvestments and capital flight, then let&#039;s start worrying. 

Yes indeed, the poor will get poorer and the rich will be richer. But until we enlarge the economic pie, we have to live with the realitiy that we were born with a silver spoon.

I tend to agree with the observation that over the years of the Philippine Republic, the government has been a necessary evil. Neither here nor there, neither good nor bad for the people. But we have to have  one if we are to function as a civilized society and a recognized as State.

And taking off from Mang Kiko, OFWs, or their remittances for that matter, are not a &quot;negative feedback.&quot; Rather, I will treat as them &quot;antibiotics&quot; to keep help heal the infection but definitely not as artificial life system, as the &quot;patriot&quot; Neri would have it. Call it kapamilya or kapuso. but there will always be kuya to make sure that little sister go through college.

But Devils is right. The times leading up to 2010 and immediately thereafter are crucial for the patient.  Those s could spell recovery or worsen the infection.  The months of living dangerously.

Need you doubt?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t give up on the sick man of Asia, not just yet.  Yes, things are bad. And sure, things will get worse. There are symptoms, but the country  will not be a failed state. Just watch the oligarchs and taipans. If there are signs of huge disinvestments and capital flight, then let&#8217;s start worrying. </p>
<p>Yes indeed, the poor will get poorer and the rich will be richer. But until we enlarge the economic pie, we have to live with the realitiy that we were born with a silver spoon.</p>
<p>I tend to agree with the observation that over the years of the Philippine Republic, the government has been a necessary evil. Neither here nor there, neither good nor bad for the people. But we have to have  one if we are to function as a civilized society and a recognized as State.</p>
<p>And taking off from Mang Kiko, OFWs, or their remittances for that matter, are not a &#8220;negative feedback.&#8221; Rather, I will treat as them &#8220;antibiotics&#8221; to keep help heal the infection but definitely not as artificial life system, as the &#8220;patriot&#8221; Neri would have it. Call it kapamilya or kapuso. but there will always be kuya to make sure that little sister go through college.</p>
<p>But Devils is right. The times leading up to 2010 and immediately thereafter are crucial for the patient.  Those s could spell recovery or worsen the infection.  The months of living dangerously.</p>
<p>Need you doubt?</p>
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		<title>By: d0d0ng</title>
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		<dc:creator>d0d0ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:24:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;greatest tragedy of the philippines is that we have the best minds and talents in the world - INDIVIDUALLY. but when we start gathering together, we get STUPID and MEDIOCRE&quot;

As they said in the Catholic faith, the Church is not run by democracy. In similarity, exercise of political power is not an application of best minds and talents in the world. It is rather rewarding friends and alliances to protect minority interest and hold of power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;greatest tragedy of the philippines is that we have the best minds and talents in the world &#8211; INDIVIDUALLY. but when we start gathering together, we get STUPID and MEDIOCRE&#8221;</p>
<p>As they said in the Catholic faith, the Church is not run by democracy. In similarity, exercise of political power is not an application of best minds and talents in the world. It is rather rewarding friends and alliances to protect minority interest and hold of power.</p>
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		<title>By: Bencard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bencard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>devils, coming from another &quot;cynic&quot; (by your description of the term), i said it before and i say it again. our problem is not that we have &quot;the best minds&quot; and talents&quot; who just couldn&#039;t  get our act together collectively, but that we have too many wise guys and hardly any wise men. look at our &quot;leaders&quot;, &quot;economists&quot;, &quot;scholars&quot;, &quot;political scientists&quot;, &quot;men of letters&quot;, &quot;historians&quot;, &quot;journalists&quot;, lawyers and judges, clerics, educators and professors. it seems, these people (perhaps including me) could not express an opinion without it being clouded by political biases or motives.  good ideas are usually shot down either because of knee-jerk suspicion of ulterior motives on the part of the proponent, i.e. perceived &quot;corruption&quot;, or because ayaw maging &quot;sikat&quot; yon&#039;g proponent, i.e. envy.

as long as we are not able to divorce personal politics from everything we say or do in our everyday life,  &quot;negative feedback&quot; will always be there to hound us to total perdition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>devils, coming from another &#8220;cynic&#8221; (by your description of the term), i said it before and i say it again. our problem is not that we have &#8220;the best minds&#8221; and talents&#8221; who just couldn&#8217;t  get our act together collectively, but that we have too many wise guys and hardly any wise men. look at our &#8220;leaders&#8221;, &#8220;economists&#8221;, &#8220;scholars&#8221;, &#8220;political scientists&#8221;, &#8220;men of letters&#8221;, &#8220;historians&#8221;, &#8220;journalists&#8221;, lawyers and judges, clerics, educators and professors. it seems, these people (perhaps including me) could not express an opinion without it being clouded by political biases or motives.  good ideas are usually shot down either because of knee-jerk suspicion of ulterior motives on the part of the proponent, i.e. perceived &#8220;corruption&#8221;, or because ayaw maging &#8220;sikat&#8221; yon&#8217;g proponent, i.e. envy.</p>
<p>as long as we are not able to divorce personal politics from everything we say or do in our everyday life,  &#8220;negative feedback&#8221; will always be there to hound us to total perdition.</p>
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		<title>By: d0d0ng</title>
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		<dc:creator>d0d0ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 16:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;put ten bright guys in the same room, and youâ€™d get ten different ideas on how to solve the problem.&quot;

Please remember, the ten bright guys are not running the country. The leader will only pick up the closest idea to his own agenda. And Filipinos don&#039;t elect leaders because of ideas, too.

Variety of ideas give you opportunity. But ideas are generally useless if not implemented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;put ten bright guys in the same room, and youâ€™d get ten different ideas on how to solve the problem.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please remember, the ten bright guys are not running the country. The leader will only pick up the closest idea to his own agenda. And Filipinos don&#8217;t elect leaders because of ideas, too.</p>
<p>Variety of ideas give you opportunity. But ideas are generally useless if not implemented.</p>
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