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		<title>By: Rob' Ramos</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/06/08/on-libel/comment-page-1/#comment-827771</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob' Ramos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoops, I meant this post. The &quot;previous&quot; part was because I was supposed to put this on my response to the preceding thread on Ces Drilon&#039;s kidnapping ^_^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoops, I meant this post. The &#8220;previous&#8221; part was because I was supposed to put this on my response to the preceding thread on Ces Drilon&#8217;s kidnapping ^_^</p>
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		<title>By: Rob' Ramos</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/06/08/on-libel/comment-page-1/#comment-827769</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob' Ramos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 06:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ mlq3

I found a 38 page essay on libel/slander and freedom of expression/the press, as viewed through an analysis of the First Amendment,  that might add to that debate on libel from your previous post:

http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP05-021

Maybe I&#039;ll blog about it when I find the time to finish the essay and digest the info ^_^ But the fascinating premise the essay makes is that, alone among the liberal democracies (who also treasure free speech), it is only the Americans who defend the right of free speech and expression to a very high limit.

I remember that little discussion we had on libel back then, and that recent libel ruling vs. Ma&#039;am Ninez has resurrected the debate, it seems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ mlq3</p>
<p>I found a 38 page essay on libel/slander and freedom of expression/the press, as viewed through an analysis of the First Amendment,  that might add to that debate on libel from your previous post:</p>
<p><a href="http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP05-021" rel="nofollow">http://ksgnotes1.harvard.edu/Research/wpaper.nsf/rwp/RWP05-021</a></p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;ll blog about it when I find the time to finish the essay and digest the info ^_^ But the fascinating premise the essay makes is that, alone among the liberal democracies (who also treasure free speech), it is only the Americans who defend the right of free speech and expression to a very high limit.</p>
<p>I remember that little discussion we had on libel back then, and that recent libel ruling vs. Ma&#8217;am Ninez has resurrected the debate, it seems.</p>
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		<title>By: leytenian</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/06/08/on-libel/comment-page-1/#comment-826166</link>
		<dc:creator>leytenian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 01:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liabilities can be prevented if programs of risk management, prevention and education are implemented. 

in terms of libel, journalists must make sure they are covered with a professional liability insurance. Just like any practicing doctors, nurses , or any businesses. Professionals or any public officials are expected to have extensive technical knowledge or training in their particular area of expertise. They are also expected to perform the services for which they were hired, according to the standards of conduct in their profession. If they fail to use the degree of skill expected of them, they can be held responsible in a court of law for any harm they cause to another person or business. 

from below: &quot;let us pause and ask if there is really rule of law in this country&quot; 

bencard said:&quot; the rule of law is not weakened or nullified by its transgression. criminals can, and sometimes, beat the system. but that doesnâ€™t mean the law is non-existent.&quot;

i wonder who beats the system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liabilities can be prevented if programs of risk management, prevention and education are implemented. </p>
<p>in terms of libel, journalists must make sure they are covered with a professional liability insurance. Just like any practicing doctors, nurses , or any businesses. Professionals or any public officials are expected to have extensive technical knowledge or training in their particular area of expertise. They are also expected to perform the services for which they were hired, according to the standards of conduct in their profession. If they fail to use the degree of skill expected of them, they can be held responsible in a court of law for any harm they cause to another person or business. </p>
<p>from below: &#8220;let us pause and ask if there is really rule of law in this country&#8221; </p>
<p>bencard said:&#8221; the rule of law is not weakened or nullified by its transgression. criminals can, and sometimes, beat the system. but that doesnâ€™t mean the law is non-existent.&#8221;</p>
<p>i wonder who beats the system?</p>
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		<title>By: leytenian</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/06/08/on-libel/comment-page-1/#comment-826145</link>
		<dc:creator>leytenian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anthony, i think the culprits are corporations who export furnitures overseas, sell furnitures in the home country,  home builders and contractors. these corporations maybe naive, stupid or don&#039;t know the consequences of their actions.  i&#039;m sure a forensic study and analysis will result to a new policy of implementation and programs for prevention. For now, programs to prevent risk are not seriously addressed nor properly implemented by the department of natural resources. This department must also coordinate with land reform. Records are almost similar. It&#039;s easy to see who owns the land or which area is owned by the government. Educational materials and seminars to all barangay captains, mayors and all government employees are highly recommended. This is another policy ( rules and regulations) that this department must look into. They will be liable and at high risk to be sued if another calamity will happen. 
Anyway, we do have alumni forums,an unofficial city forums, and local blogs that will hopefully educate our people. Audience are very limited due to lack of high speed capabilities and internet access. But it&#039;s there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anthony, i think the culprits are corporations who export furnitures overseas, sell furnitures in the home country,  home builders and contractors. these corporations maybe naive, stupid or don&#8217;t know the consequences of their actions.  i&#8217;m sure a forensic study and analysis will result to a new policy of implementation and programs for prevention. For now, programs to prevent risk are not seriously addressed nor properly implemented by the department of natural resources. This department must also coordinate with land reform. Records are almost similar. It&#8217;s easy to see who owns the land or which area is owned by the government. Educational materials and seminars to all barangay captains, mayors and all government employees are highly recommended. This is another policy ( rules and regulations) that this department must look into. They will be liable and at high risk to be sued if another calamity will happen.<br />
Anyway, we do have alumni forums,an unofficial city forums, and local blogs that will hopefully educate our people. Audience are very limited due to lack of high speed capabilities and internet access. But it&#8217;s there.</p>
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		<title>By: anthony scalia</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/06/08/on-libel/comment-page-1/#comment-826115</link>
		<dc:creator>anthony scalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 00:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>leytenian,

si tita cory pa ang presidente nung ormoc tragedy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>leytenian,</p>
<p>si tita cory pa ang presidente nung ormoc tragedy</p>
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		<title>By: Bencard</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/06/08/on-libel/comment-page-1/#comment-826043</link>
		<dc:creator>Bencard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 21:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>frombelow, olivares was convicted for defaming a private individual who is not a part of this &quot;regime&quot; other than as counsel. what has politics got to do with it? assuming your theory is valid, olivares is not without political clout (from the opposition or the oust-gloria crowd) is she?

btw, the rule of law is not weakened or nullified by its transgression. criminals can, and sometimes, beat the system. but that doesn&#039;t mean the law is non-existent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>frombelow, olivares was convicted for defaming a private individual who is not a part of this &#8220;regime&#8221; other than as counsel. what has politics got to do with it? assuming your theory is valid, olivares is not without political clout (from the opposition or the oust-gloria crowd) is she?</p>
<p>btw, the rule of law is not weakened or nullified by its transgression. criminals can, and sometimes, beat the system. but that doesn&#8217;t mean the law is non-existent.</p>
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		<title>By: leytenian</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/06/08/on-libel/comment-page-1/#comment-825686</link>
		<dc:creator>leytenian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KG,
&quot;gusto mo uwi ka dito at ipaglaban mo.lol(heard of that local tv series?)

if another landslide will happen. you bet. I will invest my money and ask for help from my network here. I can&#039;t stand this BS anymore.. LOL.. been thinking about ormoc and guinsawgon... how could they let this happen twice? it&#039;s not a coincidence, it&#039;s an obvious consequence of negligence. anyway... i have to relax, this type of issue raises my blood pressure.. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KG,<br />
&#8220;gusto mo uwi ka dito at ipaglaban mo.lol(heard of that local tv series?)</p>
<p>if another landslide will happen. you bet. I will invest my money and ask for help from my network here. I can&#8217;t stand this BS anymore.. LOL.. been thinking about ormoc and guinsawgon&#8230; how could they let this happen twice? it&#8217;s not a coincidence, it&#8217;s an obvious consequence of negligence. anyway&#8230; i have to relax, this type of issue raises my blood pressure.. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: frombelow</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/06/08/on-libel/comment-page-1/#comment-825569</link>
		<dc:creator>frombelow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hats off to those who are giving comments on libvel laws in the country.
Very enlightening. But, as always. &quot;Politika lang naman yan eh.&quot;
Who is Ninez, by the way? One of the most vocal critics of this regime. Well, one can argue that she was convicted based on rule of law.
Precisely the reason why I am saying that it is only politics.
Rule of law?
How many laws have been reduced to piece of paper in this country? Beginning from the top occupiers of power?
Fine, rule of law. 
But before anyone can shout to his lungs to respect the rule of law, let us pause and ask if there is really rule of law in this country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hats off to those who are giving comments on libvel laws in the country.<br />
Very enlightening. But, as always. &#8220;Politika lang naman yan eh.&#8221;<br />
Who is Ninez, by the way? One of the most vocal critics of this regime. Well, one can argue that she was convicted based on rule of law.<br />
Precisely the reason why I am saying that it is only politics.<br />
Rule of law?<br />
How many laws have been reduced to piece of paper in this country? Beginning from the top occupiers of power?<br />
Fine, rule of law.<br />
But before anyone can shout to his lungs to respect the rule of law, let us pause and ask if there is really rule of law in this country.</p>
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		<title>By: KG</title>
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		<dc:creator>KG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leytenian, information overload.

You have seen the effects of info overdose (by one commenter for the past few years)by my rants above.
As I said, it would be unfair kung di ako sumagot pag tinanong.(pwera lang kung matagal ako offline)
I will try:

http://www.aig.com/gateway/asset/1-11-428-3082-Philippines_Insurance+Professional_Employers+Liability.htm

but it covers injury or illness during work.
as to libel your research is as good as mine.

gusto mo uwi ka dito at ipaglaban mo.lol(heard of that local tv series?)


there are pro bono lawyers,I am sure me natitira pa nyan sa pinas. some lawyers use radio and tv  programs to give legal advise as to what happens next di ko na alam.

and since we are in a blog,some lawyers blog, so to access their site people must have internet connections,which costs money(no free lunch).

I gave it a shot. May pag asa pa pinas,the so called damgage done by no economic development and so called cultural flaws can still be remedied.Huwag lang daw magtulug tulugan para madaling gisisngin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leytenian, information overload.</p>
<p>You have seen the effects of info overdose (by one commenter for the past few years)by my rants above.<br />
As I said, it would be unfair kung di ako sumagot pag tinanong.(pwera lang kung matagal ako offline)<br />
I will try:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.aig.com/gateway/asset/1-11-428-3082-Philippines_Insurance+Professional_Employers+Liability.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.aig.com/gateway/asset/1-11-428-3082-Philippines_Insurance+Professional_Employers+Liability.htm</a></p>
<p>but it covers injury or illness during work.<br />
as to libel your research is as good as mine.</p>
<p>gusto mo uwi ka dito at ipaglaban mo.lol(heard of that local tv series?)</p>
<p>there are pro bono lawyers,I am sure me natitira pa nyan sa pinas. some lawyers use radio and tv  programs to give legal advise as to what happens next di ko na alam.</p>
<p>and since we are in a blog,some lawyers blog, so to access their site people must have internet connections,which costs money(no free lunch).</p>
<p>I gave it a shot. May pag asa pa pinas,the so called damgage done by no economic development and so called cultural flaws can still be remedied.Huwag lang daw magtulug tulugan para madaling gisisngin.</p>
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		<title>By: leytenian</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/06/08/on-libel/comment-page-1/#comment-825315</link>
		<dc:creator>leytenian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 04:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KG,
one more thing... do we have professional liability insurance? employer group liability insurance? for example : is manolo covered by liability insurance by his employer to protect the employing company from getting sued for libel? who are the insuring companies?
might be a good business for you to look into. self employed professionals, private practice, small, medium size businesses will be your niche market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KG,<br />
one more thing&#8230; do we have professional liability insurance? employer group liability insurance? for example : is manolo covered by liability insurance by his employer to protect the employing company from getting sued for libel? who are the insuring companies?<br />
might be a good business for you to look into. self employed professionals, private practice, small, medium size businesses will be your niche market.</p>
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