Langhiya kayong mga middle forces. Pinatalsik niyo si Erap tapos ibinigay niyo sa amin si Gloria. Ngayon naman gusto niyong patalsikin si Gloria para kay Noli.

Para kayong mga teenager na hayok sa laman. Hindi makapagpigil. Hindi makapaghintay. Mapusok pero wala namang ibinibigay na alternatibo.

Pinaikot mga tumbong niyo. Bobo talaga middle forces.

Teka si Lozada presidente the Philforest? Anong kabulastugan naman ang mayroon at napasama siya dun?

E ayaw namin kay Noli de Castro at GMA. Ayaw namin kay Erap at Cory. At lalung ayaw namin kay Lozada at de Venecia sampu ng mga prayle’t madreng nagpapagamit.

Ayaw namin sa kanilang lahat. Paano na to? Pare perhong magnanakaw ang gustong pumapel?

i have yet to hear a Gallup poll on perception of corruption/fitness to continue of US Presidents. di ko alam sa ibang countries

So i showed you that there was such a poll that measures perceptions of corruption in other countries. You then tried to counter by asserting that the…

CNN/Gallup aren’t claiming what the survey is not, a ’sample’ of the almost 300M US population, but for what it is, a survey of respondents!

…so i had to show you that the CNN/Gallup poll is indeed taking a sample that represents the entire population of U.S. adults. Anyone with a basic understanding of statistics would have understood that.

If you’re mystified on why such a relatively small sample can represent a large population of 300 million, here is a ‘Sample Size Calculator’ website that might help:

http://www.surveysystem.com/sscalc.htm

There you will see, for example, that for population of 300Million, a random sample size of 1,040 can give you results with 99% Confidence Level and +/-4% Sampling Error (i.e. Confidence Interval).

I don’t know why you persist in claiming that i insisted that ‘GDP equals family income’ when i have already explained myself above. If my hypothetical lechon-manok example (at February 21st, 2008 at 1:28 am) led you to believe that i made such a claim, then the third paragraph in that same comment (where i begin with Of course, an economy consists of more than a single business…) should have cleared this up.

“About half of U.S. adults believe most members of Congress are corrupt, a poll released Tuesday suggests”

why didnt you include that sentence in your first quote?!?
thats suspect! thats an afterthought! a face-saving measure

for the NTH time, our discussion IS NOT on what are the components of GDP but on YOUR INSISTENCE that the present GDP is flawed using FIES results. particularly, YOUR INSISTENCE that GDP = family income! WRONG!!!

Iho, GDP per capita is simply dividing GDP with the population!

If YOU INSIST that FIES results are a much better indicator than GDP per capita then JUST SAY SO!

besides, NEVER DID I CLAIM that GDP per capita is a better indicator of purchasing power than family income

to placate you, final output may be income, but its not the same as family income

(di ako marunong mag boldface, mag-itals. sorry for the caps)

because CNN/Gallup aren’t claiming what the survey is not, a ’sample’ of the almost 300M US population, but for what it is, a survey of respondents! – Anthony Scalia

On the contrary, the article claims just that. The lead-sentence says…

About half of U.S. adults believe most members of Congress are corrupt, a poll released Tuesday suggests.

You can check for yourself here:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/01/03/poll.congressimage/

You can also click on the ‘View Poll’ and you will see that the sample size is 1033 individuals, with a sample error of +/-4.5%. Now think about this, what is the sample error used for? Why is it needed?

may i remind you again, you are insisting on GDP as ‘family income’ not income per se. and even using your GDP through income formula, the final output is still goods and services. – Anthony Scalia

What i am trying to explain is that the most of the components that make up family income are also the components that make up GDP. Scroll up to my original comment about this matter on this thread (February 20th, 2008 at 10:17 am) so you can see what i said:

Anthony, both per capita gdp and average income per family are measures of income…I understand that they don’t measure the same things (e.g. corporate income is not measured in the latter and ofw income is not included in the former

To repeat, the final output measure is income.

ehem, as per your quoted text -

49% of respondents….

46% of respondents…

never does the text imply that the respondents were a sample of the entire almost 300-M US population

you are the only one who claims the figures “…are meant to represent the sentiments of the entire population”

asus! don’t go beyond what your quoted text says

mali ka in saying

If the results are only limited to the sentiments of the respondents, then the CNN/Gallup Poll will not be newsworthy

because CNN/Gallup aren’t claiming what the survey is not, a ’sample’ of the almost 300M US population, but for what it is, a survey of respondents!

Regarding your comment at 6:18pm, as i previously mentioned, the final output of goods and services is expressed as income. That’s why GDP falls under ‘National Income Accounting’. Think of it like the country’s income statement. (Although unlike the income statement of a business firm, in national accounting, Income = Expenditures.) Click on the link i provided above (at February 22nd, 2008, 7:23 pm).

may i remind you again, you are insisting on GDP as ‘family income’ not income per se. and even using your GDP through income formula, the final output is still goods and services.

don’t depart from our discussions my friend. we are not disputing what should be the components of GDP per se. my issue with you is your insistence on equating family income with GDP so you can attack the 7.3 GDP by using another metric, family income, para may maibato ka lang kay gloria