Comments on: The great escape http://www.quezon.ph/2008/02/07/the-great-escape/ Punditry. Politics. History. Commentary. Sat, 04 Sep 2010 17:40:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: fanny barnham smythe http://www.quezon.ph/2008/02/07/the-great-escape/comment-page-3/#comment-1022314 fanny barnham smythe Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:47:30 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1670#comment-1022314 hello pinoys! Fanny barnham -smythe here i am looking for a driver dears! hold on whilst i refill my gin and tonic.......maria dear!! rings bell ,oh where is that silly incompetent ,so hard to get good domestics these days dear ,..i need a driver to dislodge me at various watering holes in Manila ,all interested young men may apply hello pinoys! Fanny barnham -smythe here i am looking for a driver dears! hold on whilst i refill my gin and tonic…….maria dear!! rings bell ,oh where is that silly incompetent ,so hard to get good domestics these days dear ,..i need a driver to dislodge me at various watering holes in Manila ,all interested young men may apply

]]> By: Bert http://www.quezon.ph/2008/02/07/the-great-escape/comment-page-3/#comment-720871 Bert Sat, 09 Feb 2008 12:10:15 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1670#comment-720871 mlq3 said: "ert, there was repeated quizzing on the bugging thing. also, one thing the senators raised but buried by the other questions but which they will hopefully return to, is that on the night neri went into executive session the palace was prepared to take him out of the senate, by force if necessary, which would have meant an armed invasion of the senate premises. manny villar confirmed this to me personally as did some members of the senate security staff i talked to." Those are not the point, I mean, the senate, a co-equal branch of the government, here being violated, bugged, their right to privacy as an institution trampled with impunity by an armed forces ordained by law to protect the national interest, and letting itself be violated by not doing anything except 'repeatedly quizzing' a witness? The citizenry wants to help, by all means...it's a matter of national survival. But, if the senate, the last bastion of our democratic institutions, don't want to help itself, are we all now prepared to roll down into the abyss? mlq3 said: “ert, there was repeated quizzing on the bugging thing. also, one thing the senators raised but buried by the other questions but which they will hopefully return to, is that on the night neri went into executive session the palace was prepared to take him out of the senate, by force if necessary, which would have meant an armed invasion of the senate premises. manny villar confirmed this to me personally as did some members of the senate security staff i talked to.”

Those are not the point, I mean, the senate, a co-equal branch of the government, here being violated, bugged, their right to privacy as an institution trampled with impunity by an armed forces ordained by law to protect the national interest, and letting itself be violated by not doing anything except ‘repeatedly quizzing’ a witness? The citizenry wants to help, by all means…it’s a matter of national survival. But, if the senate, the last bastion of our democratic institutions, don’t want to help itself, are we all now prepared to roll down into the abyss?

]]> By: Kabayan http://www.quezon.ph/2008/02/07/the-great-escape/comment-page-3/#comment-720764 Kabayan Sat, 09 Feb 2008 10:04:11 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1670#comment-720764 mlq3, Armed invasion of the Senate premises? A grave situation indeed. If that happens the offices of the AFP and PNP HQs would probably empty with a sign hanging on the doorknob "Out for official business, Gloria's Praetors at work" One can only imagine the repercussions if that happened. Would have been a grand blunder worse than what they did to Lozada, only if it pushed through, they would have taken the rest of the Filipinos in flames down with them(i.e. By this inept and corrupt administration). I would not be surprised if that kind of shit hits the fan, many would first and foremost hunt for that Siraulo in the DOI and then give him a brain transplant. mlq3,

Armed invasion of the Senate premises? A grave situation indeed. If that happens the offices of the AFP and PNP HQs would probably empty with a sign hanging on the doorknob “Out for official business, Gloria’s Praetors at work”

One can only imagine the repercussions if that happened. Would have been a grand blunder worse than what they did to Lozada, only if it pushed through, they would have taken the rest of the Filipinos in flames down with them(i.e. By this inept and corrupt administration). I would not be surprised if that kind of shit hits the fan, many would first and foremost hunt for that Siraulo in the DOI and then give him a brain transplant.

]]> By: mlq3 http://www.quezon.ph/2008/02/07/the-great-escape/comment-page-3/#comment-720744 mlq3 Sat, 09 Feb 2008 09:47:19 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1670#comment-720744 ert, there was repeated quizzing on the bugging thing. also, one thing the senators raised but buried by the other questions but which they will hopefully return to, is that on the night neri went into executive session the palace was prepared to take him out of the senate, by force if necessary, which would have meant an armed invasion of the senate premises. manny villar confirmed this to me personally as did some members of the senate security staff i talked to. ert, there was repeated quizzing on the bugging thing. also, one thing the senators raised but buried by the other questions but which they will hopefully return to, is that on the night neri went into executive session the palace was prepared to take him out of the senate, by force if necessary, which would have meant an armed invasion of the senate premises. manny villar confirmed this to me personally as did some members of the senate security staff i talked to.

]]> By: Bert http://www.quezon.ph/2008/02/07/the-great-escape/comment-page-3/#comment-720739 Bert Sat, 09 Feb 2008 09:38:27 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1670#comment-720739 One thing that puzzles me is the silence of the senate on Lozada's revelation that he could hear the senator's conversations from the radios of the abductors while he was being given the merry-go-round. The senators are bugged, been informed about it, and not a whimper from any of them. We are indeed a hopeless case. One thing that puzzles me is the silence of the senate on Lozada’s revelation that he could hear the senator’s conversations from the radios of the abductors while he was being given the merry-go-round. The senators are bugged, been informed about it, and not a whimper from any of them. We are indeed a hopeless case.

]]> By: TonGuE-tWisTeD http://www.quezon.ph/2008/02/07/the-great-escape/comment-page-3/#comment-720181 TonGuE-tWisTeD Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:44:39 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1670#comment-720181 hg, Ayala has the resources to do it especially if the case goes to court. If it does, I'm lending Ayala some of my knowledge amd experience. For free. The APMC guys know me personally from past transactions. hg,
Ayala has the resources to do it especially if the case goes to court. If it does, I’m lending Ayala some of my knowledge amd experience. For free. The APMC guys know me personally from past transactions.

]]> By: hawaiianguy http://www.quezon.ph/2008/02/07/the-great-escape/comment-page-3/#comment-720001 hawaiianguy Fri, 08 Feb 2008 22:02:34 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1670#comment-720001 Tongue: "The only way to settle it, I guess, is to reconstruct the whole basement or a full size model and prove their theories there." But they have already concluded on their theory. They will look more foolish than what they already are, if they find contrary evidence. Kahiyaan na ito, di na pwede ulitin ang investigation. Tongue: “The only way to settle it, I guess, is to reconstruct the whole basement or a full size model and prove their theories there.”

But they have already concluded on their theory. They will look more foolish than what they already are, if they find contrary evidence. Kahiyaan na ito, di na pwede ulitin ang investigation.

]]> By: TonGuE-tWisTeD http://www.quezon.ph/2008/02/07/the-great-escape/comment-page-3/#comment-719986 TonGuE-tWisTeD Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:48:02 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1670#comment-719986 Geo, Understood and accepted. There isn't conspiracy at all. Yet. The reports were hidden still they use the same reports to justify their findings. I prefer people making their judgement based on established scientific knowledge than twisted logic employed by the Zero-credibility Pulis Ni Pidal. -------- Bencard, I have not visited Malacañang lately so, no, I have not seen the devil in the flesh. Seriously, the PNP logic, as quoted by Geo goes like this: It is not red or green, it does not taste like an apple, it does not look like an apple. Therefore, it is an orange. ------- UP n student, One could be creative and looking at the endless possibilities of triggering an explosion using electrostatic discharge, combining it with natural forces say, gravity, it is possible. In the subject area, you could replicate Ben Franklin's lightning kite and key experiment by attaching a piece of thread to the aircon duct's insulation where ESD is generated once the airconditioning is switched on you can place the key near the gas source and presto, no IED. Even if they had done a 100% sweep! Again the possibilities are endless but PNP's convenient way out is the negligence angle to cover for the sloppy, lame, unscientific procedures they did and for those they failed to do. The only way to settle it, I guess, is to reconstruct the whole basement or a full size model and prove their theories there. Geo,
Understood and accepted. There isn’t conspiracy at all. Yet. The reports were hidden still they use the same reports to justify their findings. I prefer people making their judgement based on established scientific knowledge than twisted logic employed by the Zero-credibility Pulis Ni Pidal.

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Bencard,
I have not visited Malacañang lately so, no, I have not seen the devil in the flesh.

Seriously, the PNP logic, as quoted by Geo goes like this: It is not red or green, it does not taste like an apple, it does not look like an apple. Therefore, it is an orange.

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UP n student,
One could be creative and looking at the endless possibilities of triggering an explosion using electrostatic discharge, combining it with natural forces say, gravity, it is possible. In the subject area, you could replicate Ben Franklin’s lightning kite and key experiment by attaching a piece of thread to the aircon duct’s insulation where ESD is generated once the airconditioning is switched on you can place the key near the gas source and presto, no IED. Even if they had done a 100% sweep!

Again the possibilities are endless but PNP’s convenient way out is the negligence angle to cover for the sloppy, lame, unscientific procedures they did and for those they failed to do.

The only way to settle it, I guess, is to reconstruct the whole basement or a full size model and prove their theories there.

]]> By: phil http://www.quezon.ph/2008/02/07/the-great-escape/comment-page-3/#comment-719297 phil Fri, 08 Feb 2008 11:27:16 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1670#comment-719297 i think enough is enough. To All Jedis may the force be with you i think enough is enough. To All Jedis may the force be with you

]]> By: nash http://www.quezon.ph/2008/02/07/the-great-escape/comment-page-3/#comment-719282 nash Fri, 08 Feb 2008 11:10:02 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1670#comment-719282 @Liam "it was really ‘condemn’ im machiavellian remember?" No. It makes you a rather sad and evil person. Funny you mention Machiavelli from the good ol days of the scheming Medicis and you claim it will take us 500 years to learn democracy. As it turns out, you contribute to this. Are you really a member of Singles for Christ (ie Pangit Kasi?). I find this non-Christ-like :D @Liam

“it was really ‘condemn’
im machiavellian remember?”

No. It makes you a rather sad and evil person. Funny you mention Machiavelli from the good ol days of the scheming Medicis and you claim it will take us 500 years to learn democracy. As it turns out, you contribute to this.

Are you really a member of Singles for Christ (ie Pangit Kasi?). I find this non-Christ-like :D

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