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		<title>By: grd</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/02/04/deposing-a-speaker/comment-page-4/#comment-730651</link>
		<dc:creator>grd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 17:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kabayan</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/02/04/deposing-a-speaker/comment-page-4/#comment-724490</link>
		<dc:creator>Kabayan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 09:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mukahang itim na putik pinili ni JDV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mukahang itim na putik pinili ni JDV.</p>
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		<title>By: Kabayan</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/02/04/deposing-a-speaker/comment-page-4/#comment-724312</link>
		<dc:creator>Kabayan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 06:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tess said

&quot;...Malacanang said over the weekend that there were backdoor talks to reconcile De Venecia and Arroyo. (GMANews.net)...&quot;

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As predicted ... just like clockwork, I only wondered why Malacanang took too long. 

The question is if JDV would compromise again and let himself be hoodwinked once more because of perks, priviledge, money and promises. I&#039;m not betting heavy on JDV to change his habits of ... compromise, compromise, compromise, until there&#039;s no principle left. 

Pure principles like clean water if mixed with dark unscrupulous ways like charcoal dust becomes black mud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tess said</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;Malacanang said over the weekend that there were backdoor talks to reconcile De Venecia and Arroyo. (GMANews.net)&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>As predicted &#8230; just like clockwork, I only wondered why Malacanang took too long. </p>
<p>The question is if JDV would compromise again and let himself be hoodwinked once more because of perks, priviledge, money and promises. I&#8217;m not betting heavy on JDV to change his habits of &#8230; compromise, compromise, compromise, until there&#8217;s no principle left. </p>
<p>Pure principles like clean water if mixed with dark unscrupulous ways like charcoal dust becomes black mud.</p>
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		<title>By: tess</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/02/04/deposing-a-speaker/comment-page-4/#comment-724280</link>
		<dc:creator>tess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 06:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>De Venecia said he would not testify against Arroyo, contrary to what he said in his valedictory address at the House on Feb. 4 that he would tell all he knows about irregularities involving the First Family, including attempts to manipulate the results of the 2004 presidential elections.

Malacanang said over the weekend that there were backdoor talks to reconcile De Venecia and Arroyo. (GMANews.net)

- What else is new? Once a trapo, always a trapo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>De Venecia said he would not testify against Arroyo, contrary to what he said in his valedictory address at the House on Feb. 4 that he would tell all he knows about irregularities involving the First Family, including attempts to manipulate the results of the 2004 presidential elections.</p>
<p>Malacanang said over the weekend that there were backdoor talks to reconcile De Venecia and Arroyo. (GMANews.net)</p>
<p>- What else is new? Once a trapo, always a trapo!</p>
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		<title>By: anthony scalia</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/02/04/deposing-a-speaker/comment-page-4/#comment-722869</link>
		<dc:creator>anthony scalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 07:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DevilsAdvc8,

the default mode of Pinoys - migrate to a first world country

look, theres nothing wrong with deciding on emotions, then looking for justifications later per se. thats human nature.

it seems that in this blog, when it comes to the discussion of migrating to a first world country, i am playing the role of your handle</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DevilsAdvc8,</p>
<p>the default mode of Pinoys &#8211; migrate to a first world country</p>
<p>look, theres nothing wrong with deciding on emotions, then looking for justifications later per se. thats human nature.</p>
<p>it seems that in this blog, when it comes to the discussion of migrating to a first world country, i am playing the role of your handle</p>
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		<title>By: DevilsAdvc8</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/02/04/deposing-a-speaker/comment-page-4/#comment-721969</link>
		<dc:creator>DevilsAdvc8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>scalia, what makes you so sure i decided first and then looked for justifications later? can you look into my soul?

anyway something related manolo wrote in a previous post

&lt;blockquote&gt;Notice that until the OFW phenomenon, the last time our professional classes could achieve stability: home, vehicle, schooling for kids, was the 50s and 60s when weÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d recovered from the war. increasingly, today, people born into the middle class can only stay in the middle class, if their parents leave them an inheritance or if they go abroad; otherwise, they face a decline in living standards. even the wealthy, to a certain extent, are facing this so theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re moving abroad, too. the poor have lost access to social mobilty locally, i think itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s safe to say, unless they take the shortcut and work abroad.

all these factors intensify corruption. if youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re poor, you will face dilemmas aplenty, to sell your soul or body to get the permits and money needed to travel and keep working abroad; if youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re middle class, you must break rules and cut corners to maintain your standard of living; the wealthy, facing competition from home and abroad, must deal dirtier and dirtier with a political class that finds itself devoid of prestige, lacking in the ability to inspire support, and which has to turn to more and more repugnant means to stay in power.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scalia, what makes you so sure i decided first and then looked for justifications later? can you look into my soul?</p>
<p>anyway something related manolo wrote in a previous post</p>
<blockquote><p>Notice that until the OFW phenomenon, the last time our professional classes could achieve stability: home, vehicle, schooling for kids, was the 50s and 60s when weÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d recovered from the war. increasingly, today, people born into the middle class can only stay in the middle class, if their parents leave them an inheritance or if they go abroad; otherwise, they face a decline in living standards. even the wealthy, to a certain extent, are facing this so theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re moving abroad, too. the poor have lost access to social mobilty locally, i think itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s safe to say, unless they take the shortcut and work abroad.</p>
<p>all these factors intensify corruption. if youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re poor, you will face dilemmas aplenty, to sell your soul or body to get the permits and money needed to travel and keep working abroad; if youÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re middle class, you must break rules and cut corners to maintain your standard of living; the wealthy, facing competition from home and abroad, must deal dirtier and dirtier with a political class that finds itself devoid of prestige, lacking in the ability to inspire support, and which has to turn to more and more repugnant means to stay in power.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: anthony scalia</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/02/04/deposing-a-speaker/comment-page-4/#comment-720710</link>
		<dc:creator>anthony scalia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 09:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bert,

what made you think i was referring to surveys on perceptions of corruption?! aber? bakit, ang surveys lang ba  ng SWS and Pulse Asia ay tungkol kay gloria lang?

did i ever single out a particular survey of gloria&#039;s corruption and declared that the perception isnt normative?

******sound of buzzer******  wrong again

teka teka nakakahalata na ako ah? you got me there my friend!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bert,</p>
<p>what made you think i was referring to surveys on perceptions of corruption?! aber? bakit, ang surveys lang ba  ng SWS and Pulse Asia ay tungkol kay gloria lang?</p>
<p>did i ever single out a particular survey of gloria&#8217;s corruption and declared that the perception isnt normative?</p>
<p>******sound of buzzer******  wrong again</p>
<p>teka teka nakakahalata na ako ah? you got me there my friend!</p>
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		<title>By: tess</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/02/04/deposing-a-speaker/comment-page-4/#comment-720137</link>
		<dc:creator>tess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ay, maling thread..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ay, maling thread..</p>
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		<title>By: tess</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2008/02/04/deposing-a-speaker/comment-page-4/#comment-720123</link>
		<dc:creator>tess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 23:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They say he&#039;s a Chinese from the province. Bagay sa iyo ideport ka. Magulo ka dito (You should be deported because you&#039;re troublesome),&quot; Apostol said. (Inquirer)

- when i first read this statement, i found it childish. but if you read again, it&#039;s a racial slur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;They say he&#8217;s a Chinese from the province. Bagay sa iyo ideport ka. Magulo ka dito (You should be deported because you&#8217;re troublesome),&#8221; Apostol said. (Inquirer)</p>
<p>- when i first read this statement, i found it childish. but if you read again, it&#8217;s a racial slur.</p>
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		<title>By: Bert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 19:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;ang layo at napakasablay naman ng observation mo. pinag-uusapan ang propensity to migrate ng Pinoy, tapos tatawagin mo akong im part of this government!--anthony s.

That&#039;s because, anthony, you also mentioned SWS and Pulse Asia surveys, and their suveys says GMA is most corrupt, and I suppose you don&#039;t believe those surveys, am I wrong again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;ang layo at napakasablay naman ng observation mo. pinag-uusapan ang propensity to migrate ng Pinoy, tapos tatawagin mo akong im part of this government!&#8211;anthony s.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because, anthony, you also mentioned SWS and Pulse Asia surveys, and their suveys says GMA is most corrupt, and I suppose you don&#8217;t believe those surveys, am I wrong again?</p>
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