your view equates ‘elite’ with whoever is in government. it seems what sealed the fate of the farmers are the actions of the executive and the judicial branch. The executive (DAR) prevented the land concerned from being ‘CARPable’ the judiciary (SC) confirmed it.

i think our discussions on ‘elites’ were rooted on the notion that Washington SyCip is a part of the ‘elite.’ SyCip never held a government post, just an advisory position at best, never had the power to decide the fate of someone else.

RA 8371 provides a mechanism for the ‘titling’ of ancestral lands/domains. Im not sure if this law is being implemented.

Maybe RA 8371 could not be applied to the land of the Sumilaos because it has been titled in Quisumbings’s name then sold to San Miguel.

For the land to be given back to the Sumilaos it must be bought back from San Miguel by the government. However, the problem with that is, the land as it is now is no longer “CARPable’. San Miguel can legally challenge any attempt to force it to sell the land.

There are legal issues involved. DAR and gloria cannot just issue an order declaring the return of the land to the Sumilaos. Or at least stop the building of the hog farm. As owner San Miguel can do whatever it wants to the land.

Maybe someone should assert their rights under RA 8371. This is another legal issue – whats the effect of the absence of proof ancestral land ownership under RA 8371 on the award of the land to Quisumbing?

how then did the ‘elite’ abuse the Sumilao farmers and NBN/ZTE? what freedoms were taken away from ther sumilao farmers and NBN/ZTE? i was asking for specifics of your generalizations!

…you can find the specifics (on the Sumilao Farmers) in Patricia Evangelista’s column (via Uniffors):

http://www.uniffors.com/?p=1232

oops. sorry for the gaffe

and since you’re one of those MACHO disciples of trillanes just like cvj, you should have join them too. – grd

Thanks grd, first time someone called me that.

ramrod, smart and gutsy? what your comrades did is simply STUPID. they allowed themselves to be manipulated that’s why i call them STUPID, STUPID , STUPID.

and since you’re one of those MACHO disciples of trillanes just like cvj, you should have join them too. huwag puro salita like “we support you” ekek. “lead us sir and we’ll follow” – nagtatawag na ang leader nyo dapat nandoon kayo para maipakita nyo rin yang tapang at pagiging macho (pero walang utak) na ipanagyayabang mo.

If you can run 150Kms a week, in combat boots, shirts, and shorts, carrying a rifle, in the cold Baguio weather, bench press more than your body weight, solve differential equation and thermodynamics problems, crawl 30 yards with live bullets zinging 6 inches over your heads .. ramrod

you meant those corrupt PMA’ers? don’t you think it’s a small sacrifice to make?

I for one never questioned their politics. I question the means they took. It’s like, it was a bunch of fireworks that did not even achieve anything, and in the process, they did something criminal. Yun ang problema. I think that’s the reason why people hooted.

I suppose the mindset Trililing and co. had was nurtured by the Baguio air..and that’s why he never could offer any other solution than to take over hotels and scare people away.

Di mo ba napansin? It was just another day in the life of the FIlipino? Wala na kasing effect yung ginawa niya? People are already tired. Everybody just wants to get on with their daily lives, unfortunately. Think about it, remember the boy who cried wolf…yun ang naging effect…sa kakaulit ulit …nagsawa ang tao.

It doesn’t mean we shouldn’t protest any injustice and bad governance, it just means we should be more circumspect about it. Sa dami nang accusations, di na rin alam ng tao ano ang paniniwalaan and it became more of nagtitirahan lang sila.

The hooting was made by “hooters,” men with fake breasts or men trying to be women, in other words “pansies!” I can only categorize those who pretended to be have the nerve to criticize Trillanes and Lim as “yagballs-less”, “gutless”, “spineless” squeeling mice, not men. I doubt if they ever held, fired one, and get fired upon by a gun in their whole pathetic cowardly lives.
If you can run 150Kms a week, in combat boots, shirts, and shorts, carrying a rifle, in the cold Baguio weather, bench press more than your body weight, solve differential equation and thermodynamics problems, crawl 30 yards with live bullets zinging 6 inches over your heads – then you can even begin to wish you are “worthy” of cheap words (from cheap men/women). I believe thats all they’re good for – cheap words. Easy to say hiding behind the anonymity of a handle. If these people dare show their faces, give full contact details, and clearly state where they can be found everyday, I will give them the benefit of the doubt, but what can you expect from mice? Bottomline, you know it, deep down in your belly (an empty space where a gut should have been) you’re not worthy, so better keep doing what you’re good at – eat, sleep, and pretend to be men…So enjoy, reading your own words and admiring them, its probably the only thing you can do…bunch of vermin!