Comments on: Black in Manila, Yellow in KL, whistle blower in Seoul http://www.quezon.ph/2007/11/11/black-in-manila-yellow-in-kl-whistle-blower-in-seoul/ Punditry. Politics. History. Commentary. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:45:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Karlo http://www.quezon.ph/2007/11/11/black-in-manila-yellow-in-kl-whistle-blower-in-seoul/comment-page-2/#comment-638034 Karlo Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:58:26 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1591#comment-638034 Belated congratulations for the successful "postcard power" protest! T'was really a creative form of mass action; I hope more activities such as these can be held in the future. It's these kind of people (those who participated in the march - empowered citizens) that are needed in times like these. More power! :) Belated congratulations for the successful “postcard power” protest! T’was really a creative form of mass action; I hope more activities such as these can be held in the future. It’s these kind of people (those who participated in the march – empowered citizens) that are needed in times like these. More power! :)

]]> By: anthony scalia http://www.quezon.ph/2007/11/11/black-in-manila-yellow-in-kl-whistle-blower-in-seoul/comment-page-2/#comment-637052 anthony scalia Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:56:26 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1591#comment-637052 manuelbuencamino, "Ayaw mo bang malaman kung nagsisiningaling sa iyo ang gobyerno mo?" Kung ang sagot ko ay oo, gusto kong malaman, may makakain ba ako? Ang pagpapakasya ng shopping budget, o ang pag-eenlarge ng perang pam-budget, ay personal na responsibilidad ng tao, na di na inaasa sa gobyerno. Kung nagsisinungaling sila, anong magagawa mo? Magrarally? Mag-EDSA na naman? Kahit ano pang gawin nyo, di na bababa yan until 2010. Kaya make the best of the situation by helping create companies and jobs na lang, tulungan yung mga Pinoy na nagsusumikap, umusad lang ang bansa. manuelbuencamino,

“Ayaw mo bang malaman kung nagsisiningaling sa iyo ang
gobyerno mo?”

Kung ang sagot ko ay oo, gusto kong malaman, may makakain ba ako?

Ang pagpapakasya ng shopping budget, o ang pag-eenlarge ng perang pam-budget, ay personal na responsibilidad ng tao, na di na inaasa sa gobyerno.

Kung nagsisinungaling sila, anong magagawa mo? Magrarally? Mag-EDSA na naman?

Kahit ano pang gawin nyo, di na bababa yan until 2010. Kaya make the best of the situation by helping create companies and jobs na lang, tulungan yung mga Pinoy na nagsusumikap, umusad lang ang bansa.

]]> By: Manila Bay Watch http://www.quezon.ph/2007/11/11/black-in-manila-yellow-in-kl-whistle-blower-in-seoul/comment-page-2/#comment-637002 Manila Bay Watch Tue, 13 Nov 2007 12:41:38 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1591#comment-637002 Mike, Just dug out the news on the expulsion of illegal immigrants in France. www.lefigaro.fr/actualites/2007/11/08/01001-20071108ARTFIG00179-hortefeux-annonce-expulsions-de-sans-papiers.php Le ministre de l’Immigration a également présenté la liste des trente métiers qualifiés auxquels les étrangers pourront postuler. Il s’était fixé l’objectif d’expulser plus de 25 000 étrangers en situation irrégulière. Brice Hortefeux a annoncé jeudi 18 600 expulsions depuis le début de l’année. Un bilan qui intervient six mois après son installation à la tête du ministère de l’Immigration, de l’Intégration, de l’Identité nationale et du Codéveloppement. En tenant compte des chiffres de l’outre-mer, le nombre total des expulsions de janvier à octobre est de 39.982, soit «légèrement supérieur» à celui de la même période de 2006, qui était de 39.900. Concernant la lutte contre le travail clandestin, 332 employeurs ont été interpellés sur les 9 premiers mois de l’année contre 177 pour la même période en 2006, soit une augmentation de 87,6%. Les interpellations d’employés clandestins ont, elles, augmenté de plus de 60% pour la même période. ¤¤¤¤ (Here's my translation (sorry if not accurate am not a professional translator):) Minister for Immigration presented a list of 30 professions (types of jobs) that foreigners can apply to. He set himself an objective that is to expel 25,000 illegally staying foreigners. Brice Hortefeux announced last Thursday the expulsion of 18,600 since the beginning of the year. The figure was announced 6 months after his nomination as chief of the Ministry of Immigration, Integration, National Identity and Codevelopment. By including the number of expulsions from overseas territories, the total number of expulsions from January to October is 39,982 or slightly higher than during the same period in 2006 which was 39,900. With regard clandestine labor, 332 employers were arrested during the first 9 months or an increase of 87.6%. The arrest of clandestine laborers increased 60% during the same period. Mike,

Just dug out the news on the expulsion of illegal immigrants in France.

http://www.lefigaro.fr/actualites/2007/11/08/01001-20071108ARTFIG00179-hortefeux-annonce-expulsions-de-sans-papiers.php

Le ministre de l’Immigration a également présenté la liste des trente métiers qualifiés auxquels les étrangers pourront postuler.
Il s’était fixé l’objectif d’expulser plus de 25 000 étrangers en situation irrégulière. Brice Hortefeux a annoncé jeudi 18 600 expulsions depuis le début de l’année. Un bilan qui intervient six mois après son installation à la tête du ministère de l’Immigration, de l’Intégration, de l’Identité nationale et du Codéveloppement. En tenant compte des chiffres de l’outre-mer, le nombre total des expulsions de janvier à octobre est de 39.982, soit «légèrement supérieur» à celui de la même période de 2006, qui était de 39.900.

Concernant la lutte contre le travail clandestin, 332 employeurs ont été interpellés sur les 9 premiers mois de l’année contre 177 pour la même période en 2006, soit une augmentation de 87,6%. Les interpellations d’employés clandestins ont, elles, augmenté de plus de 60% pour la même période.

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(Here’s my translation (sorry if not accurate am not a professional translator):)

Minister for Immigration presented a list of 30 professions (types of jobs) that foreigners can apply to.

He set himself an objective that is to expel 25,000 illegally staying foreigners. Brice Hortefeux announced last Thursday the expulsion of 18,600 since the beginning of the year. The figure was announced 6 months after his nomination as chief of the Ministry of Immigration, Integration, National Identity and Codevelopment. By including the number of expulsions from overseas territories, the total number of expulsions from January to October is 39,982 or slightly higher than during the same period in 2006 which was 39,900.

With regard clandestine labor, 332 employers were arrested during the first 9 months or an increase of 87.6%. The arrest of clandestine laborers increased 60% during the same period.

]]> By: Manila Bay Watch http://www.quezon.ph/2007/11/11/black-in-manila-yellow-in-kl-whistle-blower-in-seoul/comment-page-1/#comment-636949 Manila Bay Watch Tue, 13 Nov 2007 11:23:53 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1591#comment-636949 Mike, Re: "Some of it, yes, but a good number of the immigrants are coming from areas such as Muslim northern Africa and the near East (for France, it’s Algeria;" France is in the process of instituting selective immigration through DNA. Will be tougher to crack that one now. Immigrants from Algeria are not automatically accepted anymore unlike 20 years ago. More difficult these last few years. This year from Jan to October, France expelled (brought out of the EU borders back to their countries of origin manu militari) more than 39,000 illegal immigrants up 10% last year in the same period. Next year, I reckon that will be 10% higher again. Immigration police have a quota to meet (officiously.) Mike,

Re: “Some of it, yes, but a good number of the immigrants are coming from areas such as Muslim northern Africa and the near East (for France, it’s Algeria;”

France is in the process of instituting selective immigration through DNA. Will be tougher to crack that one now. Immigrants from Algeria are not automatically accepted anymore unlike 20 years ago. More difficult these last few years.

This year from Jan to October, France expelled (brought out of the EU borders back to their countries of origin manu militari) more than 39,000 illegal immigrants up 10% last year in the same period.

Next year, I reckon that will be 10% higher again. Immigration police have a quota to meet (officiously.)

]]> By: Mike http://www.quezon.ph/2007/11/11/black-in-manila-yellow-in-kl-whistle-blower-in-seoul/comment-page-1/#comment-636794 Mike Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:35:34 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1591#comment-636794 <blockquote>Europe’s borders to immigration are closing down… Europe will source wanted labor from the new members of the EU. - Manila Bay Watch</blockquote> Some of it, yes, but a good number of the immigrants are coming from areas such as Muslim northern Africa and the near East (for France, it's Algeria; for Germany, it's Turkey). As the riots in France showed, when many of these people refuse to integrate, it can result in vast social turmoil. But these countries have no choice, unless they want to share Japan's future.

Europe’s borders to immigration are closing down… Europe will source wanted labor from the new members of the EU. – Manila Bay Watch

Some of it, yes, but a good number of the immigrants are coming from areas such as Muslim northern Africa and the near East (for France, it’s Algeria; for Germany, it’s Turkey). As the riots in France showed, when many of these people refuse to integrate, it can result in vast social turmoil. But these countries have no choice, unless they want to share Japan’s future.

]]> By: Mike http://www.quezon.ph/2007/11/11/black-in-manila-yellow-in-kl-whistle-blower-in-seoul/comment-page-1/#comment-636523 Mike Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:08:20 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1591#comment-636523 Willy: you're right, it is demographic collapse, and you are seeing it in Japan right this very minute. Not only is the population aging, they will actually lose 60 million people in the next 30 years. They have closed about 2,000 schools and are closing down 300 more every year. Wow, corporate income tax in Ireland is only 10%??? We can only dream... Willy: you’re right, it is demographic collapse, and you are seeing it in Japan right this very minute. Not only is the population aging, they will actually lose 60 million people in the next 30 years. They have closed about 2,000 schools and are closing down 300 more every year.

Wow, corporate income tax in Ireland is only 10%??? We can only dream…

]]> By: cvj http://www.quezon.ph/2007/11/11/black-in-manila-yellow-in-kl-whistle-blower-in-seoul/comment-page-1/#comment-635926 cvj Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:30:03 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1591#comment-635926 For your reference, links to: The <i>Celtic Tiger</i> Paper by Canning and Bloom: http://www.esr.ie/Vol34_3Bloom.pdf Rodrik, Hausmann & Pritchett's paper on Growth Acceleration: ksghome.harvard.edu/~drodrik/growth_accelerations_aug05.pdf For your reference, links to:

The Celtic Tiger Paper by Canning and Bloom:

http://www.esr.ie/Vol34_3Bloom.pdf

Rodrik, Hausmann & Pritchett’s paper on Growth Acceleration:

ksghome.harvard.edu/~drodrik/growth_accelerations_aug05.pdf

]]> By: cvj http://www.quezon.ph/2007/11/11/black-in-manila-yellow-in-kl-whistle-blower-in-seoul/comment-page-1/#comment-635915 cvj Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:20:15 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1591#comment-635915 As to population policy, we don't have to resort to China's draconian measures. The experience in Kerala shows that the most effective way of cutting the birth rate is on educating the women, not on birth control per se, but in terms of <i>general</i> education. If our education policy grants preferential treatment to women, then our population growth rate can go down. Somehow, educated women tend to have less kids. I think this can also be partly attributed to the fact that men are intimidated by women who are perceived to be smarter than them. As to population policy, we don’t have to resort to China’s draconian measures. The experience in Kerala shows that the most effective way of cutting the birth rate is on educating the women, not on birth control per se, but in terms of general education. If our education policy grants preferential treatment to women, then our population growth rate can go down. Somehow, educated women tend to have less kids. I think this can also be partly attributed to the fact that men are intimidated by women who are perceived to be smarter than them.

]]> By: cvj http://www.quezon.ph/2007/11/11/black-in-manila-yellow-in-kl-whistle-blower-in-seoul/comment-page-1/#comment-635911 cvj Mon, 12 Nov 2007 13:15:44 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1591#comment-635911 Willy, there is a problem with Jane Galt's attributing Ireland's growth acceleration to a single 'parsimonious' factor like a tax cut in 1987 because such growth acceleration actually started in 1985. As per Hausmann, Pritchett and Rodrik's paper on 'Growth Accelerations', 1985 was the pivotal year when Ireland's per capita GDP Growth accelerated from 1.6% to 5%. Willy, there is a problem with Jane Galt’s attributing Ireland’s growth acceleration to a single ‘parsimonious’ factor like a tax cut in 1987 because such growth acceleration actually started in 1985. As per Hausmann, Pritchett and Rodrik’s paper on ‘Growth Accelerations’, 1985 was the pivotal year when Ireland’s per capita GDP Growth accelerated from 1.6% to 5%.

]]> By: Willy http://www.quezon.ph/2007/11/11/black-in-manila-yellow-in-kl-whistle-blower-in-seoul/comment-page-1/#comment-635870 Willy Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:12:37 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1591#comment-635870 China might have achieved a temporary measure of success with the one-child policy (ww.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1103579,00.html), but at a painful merciless cost: "Since 1980, when China began fully carrying out what is commonly known as the one-child policy, officials in the provinces have often resorted to <strong>draconian</strong> measures--forced sterilizations and late-term abortions among them--to prevent the country's population of 1.3 billion from expanding into a Malthusian nightmare." China might have achieved a temporary measure of success with the one-child policy (ww.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1103579,00.html), but at a painful merciless cost:

“Since 1980, when China began fully carrying out what is commonly known as the one-child policy, officials in the provinces have often resorted to draconian measures–forced sterilizations and late-term abortions among them–to prevent the country’s population of 1.3 billion from expanding into a Malthusian nightmare.”

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