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		<title>By: mlq3</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/10/11/the-palace-three-point-shot-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-599405</link>
		<dc:creator>mlq3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 05:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>devils, re: penal code, yes it&#039;s strictly in the hands of congress, unless we apply the mechanism by which the public can directly propose laws (and revisions to laws) but as i explored it at length, it&#039;s a cumbersome and expensive process.

my understanding is that the civil code was revised in the late 1940s by a code commission headed by djb&#039;s grandfather, jorge bocobo. but that was authorized by congress and its members appointed by the president. their work was then submitted to congress which then passed it as the new civil code (further amended since, including the more recent family code, i believe).

i myself had minor experience in what it takes to codify presidential issuances, it&#039;s a nightmarish task. imagine doing the same for our laws. it has to be done but it&#039;s not the sexy kind of work people like to do. even the manner in which amendments to existing laws or bills are discussed required a drastic updating (imagine the house or senate with large screens; on the screens are projected the text of a bill or law; as various members of congress propose amendments they are instantly marked up on the screens, the results then printed out: it&#039;s a far less confusing process than the present one followed).

but then i go back to my proposal where a simple identity card on the atm model would make the casting and counting of votes instant, and why even civil servants in congress end up laughing every time i bring it up...

imagine a proposal to codify the laws of the republic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>devils, re: penal code, yes it&#8217;s strictly in the hands of congress, unless we apply the mechanism by which the public can directly propose laws (and revisions to laws) but as i explored it at length, it&#8217;s a cumbersome and expensive process.</p>
<p>my understanding is that the civil code was revised in the late 1940s by a code commission headed by djb&#8217;s grandfather, jorge bocobo. but that was authorized by congress and its members appointed by the president. their work was then submitted to congress which then passed it as the new civil code (further amended since, including the more recent family code, i believe).</p>
<p>i myself had minor experience in what it takes to codify presidential issuances, it&#8217;s a nightmarish task. imagine doing the same for our laws. it has to be done but it&#8217;s not the sexy kind of work people like to do. even the manner in which amendments to existing laws or bills are discussed required a drastic updating (imagine the house or senate with large screens; on the screens are projected the text of a bill or law; as various members of congress propose amendments they are instantly marked up on the screens, the results then printed out: it&#8217;s a far less confusing process than the present one followed).</p>
<p>but then i go back to my proposal where a simple identity card on the atm model would make the casting and counting of votes instant, and why even civil servants in congress end up laughing every time i bring it up&#8230;</p>
<p>imagine a proposal to codify the laws of the republic.</p>
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		<title>By: DevilsAdvc8</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/10/11/the-palace-three-point-shot-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-599377</link>
		<dc:creator>DevilsAdvc8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 05:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mlq3, yeah. including the fines, penalties, and years of imprisonment. some should be increased, while others should be modified to community service, etc.

also, can we undertake a massive revision of the penal code w/o having to tackle cha-cha? and if so, what is preventing us from doing so? sa Congress lang ba to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mlq3, yeah. including the fines, penalties, and years of imprisonment. some should be increased, while others should be modified to community service, etc.</p>
<p>also, can we undertake a massive revision of the penal code w/o having to tackle cha-cha? and if so, what is preventing us from doing so? sa Congress lang ba to?</p>
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		<title>By: ramrod</title>
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		<dc:creator>ramrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 00:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:(</description>
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		<title>By: ramrod</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/10/11/the-palace-three-point-shot-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-599040</link>
		<dc:creator>ramrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 00:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;dapat sana marami na nakakulong if pre-marital sex is illegal. (including me, i guess)&quot;- devils

devils, ILLEGAL in the Philippines means &quot;sick bird&quot; - no reference to the law whatsoever...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;dapat sana marami na nakakulong if pre-marital sex is illegal. (including me, i guess)&#8221;- devils</p>
<p>devils, ILLEGAL in the Philippines means &#8220;sick bird&#8221; &#8211; no reference to the law whatsoever&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ramrod</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/10/11/the-palace-three-point-shot-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-599030</link>
		<dc:creator>ramrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BrianB,

Oh, I thought you meant the other kind, you know the ones you see in the telephone directory in your hotel room?  They accept cash and major credit cards and deliver right at your hotel room.  Of course I just heard about this from colleagues, I&#039;m a faithful family man like Abalos. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BrianB,</p>
<p>Oh, I thought you meant the other kind, you know the ones you see in the telephone directory in your hotel room?  They accept cash and major credit cards and deliver right at your hotel room.  Of course I just heard about this from colleagues, I&#8217;m a faithful family man like Abalos. <img src='http://www.quezon.ph/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: BrianB</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrianB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Singapore is too expensive, minimum 150Sgd.&quot;

Ramrod, what is this, the cost for dinner and drinks? Or maybe you mean some other illegal activity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Singapore is too expensive, minimum 150Sgd.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ramrod, what is this, the cost for dinner and drinks? Or maybe you mean some other illegal activity?</p>
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		<title>By: mlq3</title>
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		<dc:creator>mlq3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually, i think the entire penal code needs to be brought into the 21st century. but most lawyers i&#039;ve mentioned the idea to don&#039;t seem interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually, i think the entire penal code needs to be brought into the 21st century. but most lawyers i&#8217;ve mentioned the idea to don&#8217;t seem interested.</p>
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		<title>By: DevilsAdvc8</title>
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		<dc:creator>DevilsAdvc8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 14:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dapat sana marami na nakakulong if pre-marital sex is illegal. (including me, i guess)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dapat sana marami na nakakulong if pre-marital sex is illegal. (including me, i guess)</p>
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		<title>By: ramrod</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/10/11/the-palace-three-point-shot-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-598793</link>
		<dc:creator>ramrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 12:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BrianB,

Singapore is too expensive, minimum 150Sgd.  Still on the topic of sex, this all came about because of Neri&#039;s case of premature ejaculation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BrianB,</p>
<p>Singapore is too expensive, minimum 150Sgd.  Still on the topic of sex, this all came about because of Neri&#8217;s case of premature ejaculation.</p>
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		<title>By: BrianB</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/10/11/the-palace-three-point-shot-updated/comment-page-1/#comment-598775</link>
		<dc:creator>BrianB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 11:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technically it is. I go to Singapore or HK to have sex, fyi. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically it is. I go to Singapore or HK to have sex, fyi. <img src='http://www.quezon.ph/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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