Comments on: Resignation isn’t a get out of jail free card http://www.quezon.ph/2007/10/02/resignation-isnt-a-get-out-of-jail-free-card/ Punditry. Politics. History. Commentary. Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:35:33 +0000 hourly 1 By: miniclip4 http://www.quezon.ph/2007/10/02/resignation-isnt-a-get-out-of-jail-free-card/comment-page-4/#comment-752775 miniclip4 Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:33:13 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1529#comment-752775 ano bayan wlang kwenta wla nman ung lungsod quezon songs ano bayan wlang kwenta wla nman ung lungsod quezon songs

]]> By: Shaman of Malilipot http://www.quezon.ph/2007/10/02/resignation-isnt-a-get-out-of-jail-free-card/comment-page-4/#comment-593779 Shaman of Malilipot Fri, 05 Oct 2007 02:59:35 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1529#comment-593779 I agree with Bencard that plunder is not a political crime. It's just that it's the politicians who commit plunder that are put in the limelight. If you come to think of it, businessmen who cheat on taxes bigtime are plunderers themselves. I agree with Bencard that plunder is not a political crime. It’s just that it’s the politicians who commit plunder that are put in the limelight. If you come to think of it, businessmen who cheat on taxes bigtime are plunderers themselves.

]]> By: inodoro ni emilie http://www.quezon.ph/2007/10/02/resignation-isnt-a-get-out-of-jail-free-card/comment-page-4/#comment-593140 inodoro ni emilie Thu, 04 Oct 2007 08:39:11 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1529#comment-593140 "death by slow roasting." ummm, yummy. let's start with the baboy. “death by slow roasting.”

ummm, yummy. let’s start with the baboy.

]]> By: DevilsAdvc8 http://www.quezon.ph/2007/10/02/resignation-isnt-a-get-out-of-jail-free-card/comment-page-4/#comment-592960 DevilsAdvc8 Thu, 04 Oct 2007 02:19:23 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1529#comment-592960 Bencard, if the original sentence for Plunder was death, and the foremost intent was deterrence, how come no one was deterred all these years? and don't mind me. I agree with you as well, that pardoning serves nothing except encourage more of the same. i think we should even up the ante and sentence plunderers to death by slow roasting. Bencard, if the original sentence for Plunder was death, and the foremost intent was deterrence, how come no one was deterred all these years?

and don’t mind me. I agree with you as well, that pardoning serves nothing except encourage more of the same. i think we should even up the ante and sentence plunderers to death by slow roasting.

]]> By: Bencard http://www.quezon.ph/2007/10/02/resignation-isnt-a-get-out-of-jail-free-card/comment-page-4/#comment-592675 Bencard Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:34:14 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1529#comment-592675 cvj, duly noted. thanks. cvj, duly noted. thanks.

]]> By: Bencard http://www.quezon.ph/2007/10/02/resignation-isnt-a-get-out-of-jail-free-card/comment-page-4/#comment-592668 Bencard Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:26:20 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1529#comment-592668 mlq3, i don't understand why you insist that plunder is a "political" crime. it is not. there's nothing political about using one's office to steal a fortune that rightfully belongs to the people. as i said, plunder was originally punishable by death. the apparent intent of the law is, first and foremost, deterrence. a pardon sends a wrong message. for a nation that has been reeling from the onslaught of rapacious public servants for so long, conviction of a former president is a whiff of fresh air from a rotting carcass, only to be rendered naught by an act of political expediency. think of the lesson that could be learned, from an appropriate retribution, by future plunderers, and individuals inclined to commit graft and corruption, from a lowly janitor all the way to the chief executive, chief justice of s.c., speaker of the house and senate president? i have no reason to doubt, mlq3, your sincerity and zeal in your desire to fight graft and corruption, especially in high places of our society. convicting a former president was a breakthrough, an almost impossible task in a society such as ours. we should not let it go to waste. mlq3, i don’t understand why you insist that plunder is a “political” crime. it is not. there’s nothing political about using one’s office to steal a fortune that rightfully belongs to the people. as i said, plunder was originally punishable by death. the apparent intent of the law is, first and foremost, deterrence. a pardon sends a wrong message. for a nation that has been reeling from the onslaught of rapacious public servants for so long, conviction of a former president is a whiff of fresh air from a rotting carcass, only to be rendered naught by an act of political expediency. think of the lesson that could be learned, from an appropriate retribution, by future plunderers, and individuals inclined to commit graft and corruption, from a lowly janitor all the way to the chief executive, chief justice of s.c., speaker of the house and senate president?

i have no reason to doubt, mlq3, your sincerity and zeal in your desire to fight graft and corruption, especially in high places of our society. convicting a former president was a breakthrough, an almost impossible task in a society such as ours. we should not let it go to waste.

]]> By: cvj http://www.quezon.ph/2007/10/02/resignation-isnt-a-get-out-of-jail-free-card/comment-page-4/#comment-592634 cvj Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:40:45 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1529#comment-592634 Bencard, for the record, i also oppose pardon for Erap. Bencard, for the record, i also oppose pardon for Erap.

]]> By: Bencard http://www.quezon.ph/2007/10/02/resignation-isnt-a-get-out-of-jail-free-card/comment-page-4/#comment-592629 Bencard Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:34:48 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1529#comment-592629 btw, and to equate advocating commensurate punishment for estrada for the crime he committed, and opposing pardon, to "beating up a dead horse" is pseudo-humanitarianism, if not aberrant sense of justice. btw, and to equate advocating commensurate punishment for estrada for the crime he committed, and opposing pardon, to “beating up a dead horse” is pseudo-humanitarianism, if not aberrant sense of justice.

]]> By: Bencard http://www.quezon.ph/2007/10/02/resignation-isnt-a-get-out-of-jail-free-card/comment-page-4/#comment-592622 Bencard Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:24:09 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1529#comment-592622 vic, i agree. there should be no compromise with plunder. there is a good reason why this particular crime was originally punishable by death. a strong message that society will not tolerate or forgive such a heinous crime. using one's office to steal hundreds of millions of pesos from the people ranks up there with first degree murder, rape with murder, and genocide, among other capital offenses. any kind of pardon (absolute or conditional) for these kinds of crimes, to me, is unacceptable. retribution is an element of justice. a crime is meaningless without penalty and the penalty must be commensurate with the gravity of the wrongdoing. while rehabilitation is an object of correctional administration, this should be limited to non-capital offenders who have been proven to have committed their offenses without moral depravity or with conscious evil. surely, no one wants a psychotic serial killer, a habitual child molester or serial rapist roaming around free to inflict more harm to society. it will help immensely in fostering a national discipline to treat criminals the same way without regard to their social status, or lack of it, or their wealth. no convict should be allowed to serve his sentence in his private mansion no matter how exalted his former position had been. vic, i agree. there should be no compromise with plunder. there is a good reason why this particular crime was originally punishable by death. a strong message that society will not tolerate or forgive such a heinous crime. using one’s office to steal hundreds of millions of pesos from the people ranks up there with first degree murder, rape with murder, and genocide, among other capital offenses. any kind of pardon (absolute or conditional) for these kinds of crimes, to me, is unacceptable.

retribution is an element of justice. a crime is meaningless without penalty and the penalty must be commensurate with the gravity of the wrongdoing. while rehabilitation is an object of correctional administration, this should be limited to non-capital offenders who have been proven to have committed their offenses without moral depravity or with conscious evil. surely, no one wants a psychotic serial killer, a habitual child molester or serial rapist roaming around free to inflict more harm to society.

it will help immensely in fostering a national discipline to treat criminals the same way without regard to their social status, or lack of it, or their wealth. no convict should be allowed to serve his sentence in his private mansion no matter how exalted his former position had been.

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