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By mlq3 Posted in Daily Dose on July 28, 2007 240 Comments 2 min read
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This entry is based on the ongoing blogger project, The Top 10 Emerging Influential Blogs in 2007, of Janette Toral. Influential is a ticklish thing to define, so let’s just say influential ranges from the personal (hey, I like reading such-and-such a blog) to the tangible in terms of link love… Anyway.The blogs speak for themselves. I’m not 100% sure they’re all post-August 2006 blogs, though.

1. Ricky Carandang Reporting
2. The Patsada Karajaw Nation
3. Tingog.com: The Voice of the Filipino
4. CAFFiend
5. Dispatches by Jesus Llanto
6. smoke
7. The Bayanihan Blog Network
8. Placeholder
9. The Magnificent Atty. Perez
10. Puckering Time

And on to being tagged for various memes.

Macaula.com and Feels Great to be Pinoy: well,

1. In San Carlos City, Negros Occidental, a hacendero’s son once took me around a property they were developing. It was a small residential village. He pointed to the various homes under construction: “here, is a seaman’s home, over there, a home built by a nurse in Texas, there, a caregiver from London’s home, and that one is the home of a carpenter in Saudi.” Each of these people, upon further investigation, had parents who were sakadas; in one lifetime, they’d made the leap from the peasantry to the middle class. This is remarkable and will eventually have long-term, positive, consequences.

2. The students I’ve met in so many places around the country, and how they teach me, every time, to look at problems and solutions with fresh eyes. While I worry that much is being lost by way of traditions and a shared culture, because of the breakdown in our institutions, I admire the sense of freedom, the lack of being limited by these things, that these students show. Literally, nothing will be impossible for them.

3. The way it’s still possible, sooner or later, to engage in productive discussions even with those whose views I strongly disagree with.

Two from baratillo @ cubao:

Six weird things about me meme.

1. I like peas microwaved with butter.
2. I am convinced that even if only a few drops of rain fall on my head, I’ll end up sick.
3. I tend to consume cigarettes very quickly.
4. I have a horror of drafts.
5. For some reason, I used to be unable to work without music; now, music gets in the way of thinking when I work.
6. When I am a passenger in a car, I end up subconsciously stamping my feet on the floor, miming braking as if I’m the one driving.

Tagging: anyone.

and that postcard meme, Only in the Philippines!

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  1. brianb:don’t start that again. you think you’re better than him because you disagree with the way i write? sheesh.

  2. Wallaborongamala is the land down under BenignO. The Australian Government’s foreign policy welcomes all immigrants, especially those from poor countries who leech off welfare funds and cannot speak English. Congratulation to you,you learned to speak that language in a decade, now I know why you hate Filipinos. You heightened your perception that pinoys are lazy and drunken buffoons. We all know that’s not true. An eyebrows are raised when you comment about indulgence of pinoy, you set out to trap in a manner that would be totally contrary to accepted to anyone’s intellect standards. Choreograph your contribution to Australiano, your dancing ocho-ocho. By the way I am a regular at Ellen’s blog Benigno. Stop ridiculing that site.

  3. Ahhhhhh, ya people! Nobody can mess with ellen’s blog! If you do, then your going to have to face this cocoy character. He is a classic member. As you can all see from his post above, he can tear you up to pieces with his debating skills.

    ” chi Says:

    August 1st, 2007 at 10:41 am

    Kapag ganyan na ang Ellenville ay tinatalakay outside of this blog, ibig lang sabihin ay SIKAT tayo sa lahat. yehey!

    Excellent, excellent “publicity” for Ellenville!

    Thanks Anna, John M and Cocoy. “

  4. my comment is still in moderation. both here and in communal…

    i can understand the one here for the link i’ve posted, but the other one doesn’t contain anything that needs to be moderated. unless of course Manolo has now decided to censor the f word.

    so it must either be a really busy day for the site admin, or my IP is now banned.

  5. In the interest of transparency and free speech, MLQ3 should explain his moderator’s policy.

    I get moderated, too and I don’t know why. Maybe it’s racist words like mestizos and kastilas that I’m so fond of using, or even hacienderos.

  6. “Ahhhhhh, ya people! Nobody can mess with ellen’s blog! If you do, then your going to have to face this cocoy character. He is a classic member. As you can all see from his post above, he can tear you up to pieces with his debating skills.”

    PTT, some kind of a debater ehh! this cocoy must be very proud of himself. understand what is he ranting all about? i mean literally speaking 🙂

  7. my moderation policy goes: no threats against private individuals. otherwise, anything goes.

    the spam filter of wordpress is very fierce, but otherwise a mystery to me. what it screens is determined, as far as i understand, by a database determined across many blogs.

    whatever is the cause, when i have the chance, i approve the comments that have been held back.

  8. MLQ3,

    tnx for the clarification.
    i too am perplexed at how wordpress’ engine screens spam. though as far as i have observed, it seems very effective and quite good. (i can only theorize that its screening protocol is an AI that learns overtime what is SPAM and what isn’t) i have surmised before that the delayed approval of comments awaiting moderation must be an issue of the moderator being too busy.

    and as you’ve said so, i was right.

  9. “By the way I am a regular at Ellen’s blog Benigno. Stop ridiculing that site.”

    Yeah, of course I remember you there, dude. But what I remember about you the most is you taking offense at me calling you “dude” for some bizarre reason after which you swore never to talk to me again. Indeed you are a classic Ellenville character. 😉

    Which is why I find it a bit strange that you seem to be giving me time of day again.

    Tough luck. And, yes, I stand by my assertion that Ellen’s blog is as ridiculous as blogs get (although, I must admit that the characters there are far more representative of Pinoy society than the people here in mlq3’s blog).

  10. Benign0, i remember that ‘dude’ exchange over at Ellen’s and i think Cocoy is older than you so i believe that under Eastern (not to mention Filipino) culture, he should be accorded some basic respect. For someone who strongly advocates that we emulate our Confucian neighbors, it’s all the more glaring that you do not practice what you preach.

  11. Tsk tsk. Age does not necessarily make one better or wiser. As this guy who wrote me a while back would attest to (if you will pardon the baroque grammar please 😉 ):

    ==========
    (Letter sent to [email protected] dated 31 Oct 2005):

    we filipinos are so hypocrete. we live on lies and half truth.

    when I was a kid (am now 40 [years old]) our elders never give us straight answer. one day while playing to my female friend, we were both taking a bath (nude and I was 5 [years old]) I shout “ay pepe” [and] my aunt scolded me for saying bad words.

    another was, when I ask my aunt again how did I come out in this world. and without hesitation she said “galing ka sa puwet”.

    there’s alot more lies and half truth i learn from my elders, when we went to US at my age of 10 [years old], I was so surprised how ordinary folks explain everything as if am talking to them as the same age as mine. up to now am still wandering why we filipinos doesnt treat kids as intellectual and the future of our country, in the philippines, youth are deprive of ideas what is better for them. look who’s the one talking and explaining everything on tv,radios or in press con. FVR 78 [years old], DOJ Gonzales 78 [years old], Ex Gen Abat 80 [years old], Sec Ermita and other’s who as if t[h]ey will still live by hundred years and cannot accept that their ideas are already “kalawang”. please you oldies, give the youth what is best for the country and for them.

    now I know if only I was around when Pres Quezon said “I would rather see the Philippines [run] like hell by filipinos than run like heaven by the americans”, I will be the one to say you dont know what youre saying. suppose we held a referendum and ask every filipinos if they want the Philippines to be part of USA as one of his member in State? [I] am sure it will get a landslide vote of yes. yes to be a member of United State of America.

    but hypocrete will say, that’s traitor, that’s treason and maybe that [is] destabilazation.

    thank you and hope that we filipinos one day wake up, there’s no hope with our politicians.

    “evil to triumph in the Philippines, let all good filipino men and women do nothing and let our politician`s do their thing”
    ==========

    This indicates our “elders'” regard for the youth, which goes a long way in explaining why Pinoys seem to have an embarassingly high tolerance for bullsh1t.

    Sorry na lang kayong matatanda. You were the first-generation inheritors of a land full of promise back in the 50’s. And instead, you turned it into the sh1thole that it is today. 😉

  12. john, kilalang kilala mo ako and the others here. if you want i’ll email my old nic to you for as long as you keep it a secret between us. 🙂

    sabihin mo na dito. why keep it secret in the first place?

    grd, about the only time i visited tordesilla’s blog, and became aware of it then, was when mlq3 referred to some excerpts of a supposed interview with mike arroyo concerning the latter’s activities during edsa dos. the pathetic woman was trying to show that the FG was actively involved in some acts of rebellion to oust erap and install his wife as president (charges which i refuted in this blog in debates with mlq3 and abe margallo, among others). i’m not questioning her right to set up a blog for a specific mission, i.e., to destroy the president and her family, and to provide an exclusive forum to those with similar proclivities. but for one who overtly advocates licentious exercise of free expression, banning bloggers and commenters for no other reason than that she doesn’t agree with them is the height of hypocrisy and pretension.

    bencard, you ignorant slut. this is what mike arroyo said to nick joaquin in an interview with Phil. Graphic a few weeks after edsa dos.

    Mike Arroyo in his own words.

    web.archive.org/web/20020206231755/http://malaya.com.ph/jan16/edtorde.htm

  13. john, kilalang kilala mo ako and the others here. if you want i’ll email my old nic to you for as long as you keep it a secret between us. 🙂

    sabihin mo na dito. why keep it secret in the first place?

    grd, about the only time i visited tordesilla’s blog, and became aware of it then, was when mlq3 referred to some excerpts of a supposed interview with mike arroyo concerning the latter’s activities during edsa dos. the pathetic woman was trying to show that the FG was actively involved in some acts of rebellion to oust erap and install his wife as president (charges which i refuted in this blog in debates with mlq3 and abe margallo, among others). i’m not questioning her right to set up a blog for a specific mission, i.e., to destroy the president and her family, and to provide an exclusive forum to those with similar proclivities. but for one who overtly advocates licentious exercise of free expression, banning bloggers and commenters for no other reason than that she doesn’t agree with them is the height of hypocrisy and pretension.

    bencard, you ignorant slut. this is what mike arroyo said to nick joaquin in an interview with Phil. Graphic a few weeks after edsa dos.

    http://www.politicaljunkie.blogspot.com/2006/02/news-flash-military-coup-topples.html

  14. Benign0, you show disrespect to your elders and then you have the gall to question someone else’s ‘breeding’? Tsk. Tsk.

  15. dude [dood]
    (plural dudes)
    noun (slang)
    1. man: a man or boy
    He’s one cool dude.
    Hey, dude, what’s up?

    Microsoft® Encarta® 2006.

    what’s the problem if you’re called dude?

  16. i will agree, however, that as far as leaders over here are concerned, you do make a vital point as to how they often have a vast arsenal of institutional/legal armaments at their fingertips but would rater go the lechon manok way.

    kaya nga sayang yung oportunidad noon jan. 2001 eh. kung idinaan nila sa may 2001 election (constitutional) ito instead of going the edsa dos (extra con) route, we wouldn’t be having the problems we are having today.

    sayang. minadali kasi eh. dapat nahintay na lang ng 4 months para i-exercise ang karapatan nilang bumoto.

    pero sabi nga nila eh, the genie is out of the bottle na. (but many people are trying to get it back)

  17. grd, just like a lot of things in life, it’s the context that matters. that is something the dictionary cannot teach you.

  18. is that true that cocoy is older than benignO? is he a retarded then? check his previous posts.

  19. “kaya nga sayang yung oportunidad noon jan. 2001 eh. kung idinaan nila sa may 2001 election (constitutional) ito instead of going the edsa dos (extra con) route, we wouldn’t be having the problems we are having today.”

    i agree with you one this one john.

  20. the spam filter of wordpress is very fierce, but otherwise a mystery to me. what it screens is determined, as far as i understand, by a database determined across many blogs.

    whatever is the cause, when i have the chance, i approve the comments that have been held back.

    para ma-approve kaagad ang post. wag maglagay ng links unless, you remove the “http:” and add “www.” sa umpisa ng link.

    http://www.google.com

  21. The youth has been more abused than women or gays in this country. Api talaga mga bata dito. Mga batang maliliit parang property lang, bugbog sarado palagi. It’s gotten a lot better for people born in the 80s.

    Our elders have nothing to be proud about. They’ve failed us. Their holding us on low esteem is a form of reverse psychology. It’s like if you know you did something bad to a child, one way of covering it up is to hurt him, as if everything is his fault. This way he’ll grow up respecting you and thinking he owes you the world. Happens to millions of Filipinos.

  22. That is, their holding us on low esteem, is a form of reverse psychology. Sorry about the typos guys, my laptop is really teeny.

  23. cvj,

    but a lot of people often use that slang word too. is it because it’s benignO who said it and so the connotation appeared negative to you?

    you’re talking about respect for that older guy but read his earlier post addressed to all the people here. does it sound respectful to you? he’s a troll (as per john marzan’s definition) okay? and as i’ve said, he sounded like more of a retardate to me.

  24. ” That is, their holding us on low esteem, is a form of reverse psychology. ”

    In what way Brian? are you talking about street children, rugby boys, child laborers due to the poverty problem? or are you saying there’s a grand scheme cooked up by big bad old people to put the youth down?

  25. Ahhh, so your talking about how spoiled the philippine kids are. How philippine parents work their ass off, become OFW’s just so they can pay for the kids elementary, highschool and college education. That we have an environment that a 21 year old man in the philippines will not be branded as a big time LOSER if he still lives with parents.

  26. What the frik are you talking about Pedro? I mean kung ang matatanda may kasalanan di nila inaamin tapos pag kita nila alam nang bata, and gagawin ay bubugbugin ang bata para hindi sila mabuking. I’m not just talking about physical punishment either, I’m also talking about mild threats, patronizing behavior and every day blackballing of the youth, excepting the youth with connections of course.

    and Loser? Andaming batang OFW na sinosuportahan parents nila. Binibilhan nang bahay at kung ano ano pa. Marami sa mga OFW bata.

  27. Ok so you’re talking about child abuse. That happens everywhere. The specific plot you gave ” I mean kung ang matatanda may kasalanan di nila inaamin tapos pag kita nila alam nang bata, and gagawin ay bubugbugin ang bata para hindi sila mabuking. ” I see that in telenovelas. Really sad. But if your confusing the philippine “old school” way of disciplining kids with a bayabas tree branch or belt, I was raised that way and I don’t see a problem with the way I turned out, so I disagree.

    As far as parents who will breed like rats and raise children hoping that their kids one day can take care of them, this is definitely a culture of poverty that must me addressed. How can the youth break this cycle? Family planning. If grown men want to support their parents or not, that’s their choice. I don’t see a need for all this drama.

  28. cvj said:
    “As i’ve said before, i think Ellen’s blog has the pulse of the majority of Filipinos. That was proven by the results of the Senatorial elections especially in the case of Trillanes.”

    is that so cvj? here are some comments from ellenville courtesy of PTT:

    “After this legal wishy-washy had been exhausted, i hope that the good Senator Trillanes will have the guts to call AGAIN the people to exercise their inherent right to remove a government that, aside from not having a clear mandate, has become too oppressive and deceptively abusive.

    Lead us Senator.

    Call your people, Sir, and they shall come. ”

    “I like your comment, “Call your people, Sir, and they shall come.”

    “I second the motion to that one ! ”

    so cvj, is that the latest pulse of the majority? “Led as sir and we will follow”. when is it coming?

  29. grd;
    was it you that is talking to me? I am sorry I did not noticed you, you are hiding at someone’s back. I don’t deal business with a bodyguard nor ride in a misfiring engine, whose behind the wheel is a camel rider nor wear a kiddie gloves. You sounds like Ellen’s reject, a paste and cut blogger.

  30. grd, to me mlq3’s blog site roughly* represents the sensibilities of the EDSA Dos crowd which has fragmented to different camps because of Gloria’s illegitimacy. ellen’s site roughly* represents EDSA Tres and therefore the Filipino majority. Our nation can only move forward if both sections of our society engage in an honest dialogue, but that can only be built on an atmosphere of mutual respect. As it is, i see that many over here still subscribe to your (and Benign0’s) attitude of refusing to empathize and understand and instead assuming an air of unwarranted superiority. Just as One Voice is supposed to reunite the EDSA Dos crowd, there should be an equivalent attempt to do so between EDSA Dos and EDSA Tres camps. As it is, post election dynamics seems to be going the opposite direction.

    *Please note emphasis on the ‘roughly’.

  31. One thing that I’m starting to like about this blog is that people are FREE to reject opinions coming from any EDSA lynch mob group.

  32. cvj, edsa dos here and edsa tres there? so, edsa 2 + edsa 3 = edsa 4 (with both sections of society engaging in an honest dialogue), the nation moves forward. is that it?

    you know i think the solution is much simpler than that. people just have to follow the constitution, follow the laws of the land and implement them, then this country will surely move forward. but until we are the kind of people who follow blindly what our so called leaders tell us, until we kept on patronizing the kind of politicians that we have right now, add to that the hero worshipping (i.e. “Lead us Sir and we’ll follow”) then for sure we will have edsa 4, 5, 6… still counting (when will it stop?). because, these diverse camps with their own personal agendas (wanting nationalism) will always be fragmented after a brief respite from squabbling and will not run out of issues. take for example the latest GO debacle. people should learn from lessons of the past.

    by the way, you mentioned edsa 2 and edsa 3 are roughly represented by mlq3’s and ellen’s. i don’t think that’s really the case here. not even close since most of these people are not even living in the country anymore or participants of those events (edsa 2 and edsa 3 don’t even represent the whole country). blogging is simply a self-indulgent exercise as what’s mentioned here and as per DJB, “it is a pure, democratic struggle among ideas.” and plain rhetoric to me.

  33. cvj:just a minor quibble – edsa tres cannot represent the majority of the nation, whether numerically or ideologically.

  34. grd, more like edsa 2 + edsa 3 = edsa 1. after democratic restoration, we had a real chance at unity. Unfortunately, the old oligarchy reasserted itself and meaningful reforms like land reform was watered down. FVR continued with a trickle down approach. Most of the poor then latched on to Erap (who is also a member of the elite) whose poor governance led to EDSA Dos and the EDSA Tres backlash. Of course, subsequently it was revealed that the moral pretentions of the EDSA Dos crowd was largely hypocritical since they would not apply the same standards to Gloria Arroyo.

    I don’t judge things from the way the leaders of both movements have behaved since most of whom are opportunists anyway. I put more weight at the aspirations that drove people to join both actions. One represented the desire for good governance while the other for universal (and not just elitist) justice.

    I do not mean to ignore the likes of you who also inhabit this space which is why i had to emphasize “roughly“. I believe you represent the sizable apathetic sector (which is what many of the EDSA Dos people have become). As such, you are a friend of the status quo which is precisely what needs to be changed.

    You should not mischaracterize the thinking people at Ellen’s as they are way ahead of the politicians in terms of sense of justice and nobility of aspirations. They are the ones who are shaping tomorrow’s leaders to the horror of our traditional politicians.

  35. Rom, that’s not what the recent Senatorial elections tell me. I believe Manolo when he says that the middle class largely boycotted the last elections which is why i think the results reflects the will of the masa i.e. the driving force behind EDSA Tres. Of course, now that the elections are over, the initiative is back to the Austero-types. Unfortunately (in my view) or fortunately (in your view), it seems that Manolo (by accepting Zubiri) has also adopted a bit of this mindset.

  36. “kaya nga sayang yung oportunidad noon jan. 2001 eh. kung idinaan nila sa may 2001 election (constitutional) ito instead of going the edsa dos (extra con) route, we wouldn’t be having the problems we are having today.”

    eh sa di na nga makaantay ang mga demonyo. atat nang maupo sa pwesto. ayun, they knew exactly that what they were doing was rebellion. But as far as rebellions go, it is only a crime if you lose it. otherwise, the rebels are now the legitimate govt.

    my interest is being piqued by these chars you constantly refer to as Ellenites. im almost tempted to visit her site. but banning people for no other reason than they disagree with you is no way to impress me. it seems she’s cultivating an environment for a cult.

    well, to each their own.

    but i don’t see why after kicking out everyone they disagreed with, they now go after these same people in sites they frequent. i guess Ellenites are not having fun anymore now that they have no one to disagree with and verbally abuse.

    personally, i believe people should only be banned when they don’t post anything more substantial than curses (directed at other posters) and personal attacks. and then, ONLY AFTER having been warned that further behavior will not be tolerated. at least you have to give the offender the chance to air their side, and apologize if needed.

    banning is only a last resort that should be used to prevent your site from degenerating into a flame site. otherwise, a healthy debate never hurt anyone.

  37. ellen does not ban people on the basis of their disagreeing with her. she maintains a very liberally-inclined blog, as far as comments are concerned.

  38. As far as comments on Ellen’s blog, yes she does maintain a lot of “Special People” very entertaining in my opinion.

  39. “ellen does not ban people on the basis of their disagreeing with her. she maintains a very liberally-inclined blog, as far as comments are concerned.”

    ah, if that is the case, thanks for correcting me Manolo. i got this impression from the others who’ve talked abt her. i guess now I must really visit her site and see for myself to be fair.

    i’ll try and be such a kj and anti-ellen w/o breaking any of her rules and let’s see what happens.

  40. cvj:aren’t you romanticizing tres just a bit much? the masa was not the driving force. it was tito sotto and all the rest egging the people on to ‘retake’ malakanyang. and seriously, do you really think that that was anything than a staged ‘mass movement’ gone awry? you really think that the masses who were there understood what was going on beyond the ‘eat the rich’ frenzy whipped up by people who wanted to be restored to power?

    as for the last elections, why would you say the middle class boycotted (i’m sorry, i haven’t been reading this blog that long)? because it seems to me that that assumption is key to your characterization of tres as embodiment of the will of the people.

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