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		<title>By: patsadakarajaw</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/07/16/dark-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-543821</link>
		<dc:creator>patsadakarajaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 12:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No amount of good legislation can erase the stigma of Zubiri as the Senator from Maguindanao.  Sorry, MLQ, I cant swallow Zubiri ever as the rightful occupant of that Senate seat in the same way I cannot accept GMA as the rightful occupant in Malacanang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No amount of good legislation can erase the stigma of Zubiri as the Senator from Maguindanao.  Sorry, MLQ, I cant swallow Zubiri ever as the rightful occupant of that Senate seat in the same way I cannot accept GMA as the rightful occupant in Malacanang.</p>
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		<title>By: justice league</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/07/16/dark-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-541318</link>
		<dc:creator>justice league</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Devilsadvoc8,

Someone might quote you on your story on the PDI regarding the water throwing incident.

If you are referring to Renato Constantino, Vic Agustin  and Carmen Pedrosa; I thoroughly remember the incident in a different way.

Nevertheless though I don&#039;t necessarily agree with all your actions I do understand your point as well as MLQ3&#039;s and Ongpin&#039;s.

Something somewhat similar happened during Ex-pres. Estrada&#039;s term.

The government bought expensive gas guzzling Ford Expedition vehicles for the cabinet members. It received so much flack from media that the cabinet members&#039; children didn&#039;t want to ride in them with their parents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devilsadvoc8,</p>
<p>Someone might quote you on your story on the PDI regarding the water throwing incident.</p>
<p>If you are referring to Renato Constantino, Vic Agustin  and Carmen Pedrosa; I thoroughly remember the incident in a different way.</p>
<p>Nevertheless though I don&#8217;t necessarily agree with all your actions I do understand your point as well as MLQ3&#8242;s and Ongpin&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Something somewhat similar happened during Ex-pres. Estrada&#8217;s term.</p>
<p>The government bought expensive gas guzzling Ford Expedition vehicles for the cabinet members. It received so much flack from media that the cabinet members&#8217; children didn&#8217;t want to ride in them with their parents.</p>
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		<title>By: justice league</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/07/16/dark-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-541233</link>
		<dc:creator>justice league</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Benigno,

Regarding your claim about ex-citizens propping up the economy; OFWs don&#039;t necessarily lose their Filipino citizenship when working abroad so you need to clarify how you use &quot;ex-citizens&quot;.

And how are you using ex-Pres. Estrada&#039;s election to the presidency as a reason for generalization (even though you don&#039;t mean that for ALL pinoys) when he wasn&#039;t a majority President anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Benigno,</p>
<p>Regarding your claim about ex-citizens propping up the economy; OFWs don&#8217;t necessarily lose their Filipino citizenship when working abroad so you need to clarify how you use &#8220;ex-citizens&#8221;.</p>
<p>And how are you using ex-Pres. Estrada&#8217;s election to the presidency as a reason for generalization (even though you don&#8217;t mean that for ALL pinoys) when he wasn&#8217;t a majority President anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: ay_naku</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/07/16/dark-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-539286</link>
		<dc:creator>ay_naku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 14:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Koko bungled his case big-time. But the fact remains that there was massive and obvious cheating in Maguindanao, and Zubiri was the beneficiary. Whether or not he eventually performs well in the Senate isn&#039;t really the point. The point is his &quot;victory&quot; is the product of bare-faced fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Koko bungled his case big-time. But the fact remains that there was massive and obvious cheating in Maguindanao, and Zubiri was the beneficiary. Whether or not he eventually performs well in the Senate isn&#8217;t really the point. The point is his &#8220;victory&#8221; is the product of bare-faced fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: Mita</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/07/16/dark-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-539024</link>
		<dc:creator>Mita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 06:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>teka teka...that was already decided by the supreme court diba?  why hiss and boo at zubiri for sticking to his guns and seeing the whole thing through?  hiss and boo at koko for (mis)representing himself in the supreme court...even adel tamano noted this was his big mistake - among others. 

zubiri will do well in the senate just watch him.  better than the genuine opposition (to themselves too!) who seem (again) to be losing it with just the senate president issue.  and the race is on....and there they go!!!!

supreme court justice giving into pressure?  i doubt it...this family of Punos are highly-principled people...palusot na lang yan.  the truth is Koko&#039;s case was mishandled when he took over and that&#039;s that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>teka teka&#8230;that was already decided by the supreme court diba?  why hiss and boo at zubiri for sticking to his guns and seeing the whole thing through?  hiss and boo at koko for (mis)representing himself in the supreme court&#8230;even adel tamano noted this was his big mistake &#8211; among others. </p>
<p>zubiri will do well in the senate just watch him.  better than the genuine opposition (to themselves too!) who seem (again) to be losing it with just the senate president issue.  and the race is on&#8230;.and there they go!!!!</p>
<p>supreme court justice giving into pressure?  i doubt it&#8230;this family of Punos are highly-principled people&#8230;palusot na lang yan.  the truth is Koko&#8217;s case was mishandled when he took over and that&#8217;s that.</p>
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		<title>By: ricelander</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/07/16/dark-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-538998</link>
		<dc:creator>ricelander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 05:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zubiri was quoted as saying after being proclaimed senator:
&quot;I am dying to go to work.  I want to redeem myself...&quot;

Redemption from what?

It is ever so true that that none is so blind than he who refuses to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zubiri was quoted as saying after being proclaimed senator:<br />
&#8220;I am dying to go to work.  I want to redeem myself&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Redemption from what?</p>
<p>It is ever so true that that none is so blind than he who refuses to see.</p>
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		<title>By: cvj</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/07/16/dark-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-538671</link>
		<dc:creator>cvj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bencard, which is why i said above that being appointed by GMA does not automatically mean that the SC Justices would be unfair.  After all, they still have their free will.  However, the pressure is always there so it is important to evaluate the basis for their decisions and not just (in Rom&#039;s words) &lt;i&gt;swallow them whole&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bencard, which is why i said above that being appointed by GMA does not automatically mean that the SC Justices would be unfair.  After all, they still have their free will.  However, the pressure is always there so it is important to evaluate the basis for their decisions and not just (in Rom&#8217;s words) <i>swallow them whole</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: jaxius</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/07/16/dark-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-538654</link>
		<dc:creator>jaxius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 16:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben,

I have to agree with you. Views like those of Ricky Carandang that suggest it was a &quot;loyalty vote&quot; would have been considered contemptous under a less patient SC. People can call the justices that ruled against the petition stupid and call the decision erroneous. But to suggest that they didn&#039;t decide in their best lights because of some suspicious machinations is another matter. It ain&#039;t fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben,</p>
<p>I have to agree with you. Views like those of Ricky Carandang that suggest it was a &#8220;loyalty vote&#8221; would have been considered contemptous under a less patient SC. People can call the justices that ruled against the petition stupid and call the decision erroneous. But to suggest that they didn&#8217;t decide in their best lights because of some suspicious machinations is another matter. It ain&#8217;t fair.</p>
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		<title>By: Bencard</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/07/16/dark-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-538492</link>
		<dc:creator>Bencard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:14:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cvj, a lot of the justices who voted for granting the t.r.o. were also appointed by GMA, not the least of which was the chief justice. what about those who ruled against the president&#039;s EO 464, the people&#039;s initiative, etc., aren&#039;t some, if not most of them, pma&#039;s appointees.  you praise the sc to high heavens when it rules against pgma but curse it (or blame  &quot;politics&quot;) when it favors the other side. just classic partisanship on your part, isn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cvj, a lot of the justices who voted for granting the t.r.o. were also appointed by GMA, not the least of which was the chief justice. what about those who ruled against the president&#8217;s EO 464, the people&#8217;s initiative, etc., aren&#8217;t some, if not most of them, pma&#8217;s appointees.  you praise the sc to high heavens when it rules against pgma but curse it (or blame  &#8220;politics&#8221;) when it favors the other side. just classic partisanship on your part, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: ay_naku</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/07/16/dark-victory/comment-page-2/#comment-538418</link>
		<dc:creator>ay_naku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 10:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MLQ, I am extremely disappointed in your &quot;Dark Victory&quot; column. So sad, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MLQ, I am extremely disappointed in your &#8220;Dark Victory&#8221; column. So sad, really.</p>
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