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		<title>By: Bencard</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/05/31/palace-dont-destabilize-emotions/comment-page-2/#comment-499259</link>
		<dc:creator>Bencard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 22:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the &quot;love of the masses&quot; does not make a corrupt leader any less unworthy. perceived criminals and wrongdoers get mobbed by the &quot;masses&quot; and elected by a &quot;landslide&quot; vote in spite of their unsavory public reputation. it seems that the filipinos, in general, are impervious to shame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the &#8220;love of the masses&#8221; does not make a corrupt leader any less unworthy. perceived criminals and wrongdoers get mobbed by the &#8220;masses&#8221; and elected by a &#8220;landslide&#8221; vote in spite of their unsavory public reputation. it seems that the filipinos, in general, are impervious to shame.</p>
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		<title>By: Bencard</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/05/31/palace-dont-destabilize-emotions/comment-page-2/#comment-499217</link>
		<dc:creator>Bencard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 21:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>with all the seemingly unending charges and countercharges of nationwide cheating in every election, how can  anyone &quot;elected&quot; for public office enjoy &quot;legitmacy&quot;?  even now, all candidates in the last elections, including the top senatorial aspirant, are necessarily implicated whenever a spurious or falsified return or coc is exposed. in philippine politics, no one is immaculate. even the media, far from being the paragon of truth and fairness, can make or unnmake presidents, or lesser officials, in conspiracy with disgruntled sectors of society, while trying to paint a 
holier-than-thou picture of itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with all the seemingly unending charges and countercharges of nationwide cheating in every election, how can  anyone &#8220;elected&#8221; for public office enjoy &#8220;legitmacy&#8221;?  even now, all candidates in the last elections, including the top senatorial aspirant, are necessarily implicated whenever a spurious or falsified return or coc is exposed. in philippine politics, no one is immaculate. even the media, far from being the paragon of truth and fairness, can make or unnmake presidents, or lesser officials, in conspiracy with disgruntled sectors of society, while trying to paint a<br />
holier-than-thou picture of itself.</p>
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		<title>By: devilsadvc8</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/05/31/palace-dont-destabilize-emotions/comment-page-2/#comment-497970</link>
		<dc:creator>devilsadvc8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 02:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;however, unless somehow he, or anyone else aspiring to be president for that matter, satisfies all the competing interests in the country when he/she is elected, he/she will be wearing a virtual target sign on his/her front and back and end up employing draconian measures for survival. he/she will then be hated by many and unless the relentless enemies are kept at bay, he/she will be hounded out of power.&quot;

There are competing interests, but unless the next president makes the same mistake GMA did when she stole or &quot;attempted&quot; to steal the elections, he or she wouldn&#039;t have the same hard time GMA is having. It is all abt perceptions, Ben. Bec a large number of people think GMA isn&#039;t the president, how indeed can she rule? When you don&#039;t have a cloud of doubt hanging over your presidency, do you think draconian measures are needed?

&quot;a country where elective office can be bought and sold; where professional dagdag-bawas operators are in control; where false witnesses and fabricated evidence are cheaply available; where a culture of corruption permeates the society at large; where the rule of law takes a backseat to the rule of power, influence and money; is a country that is impossible to govern.&quot;

Take your statement for example, with all that you&#039;ve enumerated, it is clear what the next president must do to endear him/her to the masses. impossible to govern? only if the president starts believing that even before they have started their presidency. GMA employed political will on all the wrong reasons. perhaps the next president will find it in him/her to use it correctly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;however, unless somehow he, or anyone else aspiring to be president for that matter, satisfies all the competing interests in the country when he/she is elected, he/she will be wearing a virtual target sign on his/her front and back and end up employing draconian measures for survival. he/she will then be hated by many and unless the relentless enemies are kept at bay, he/she will be hounded out of power.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are competing interests, but unless the next president makes the same mistake GMA did when she stole or &#8220;attempted&#8221; to steal the elections, he or she wouldn&#8217;t have the same hard time GMA is having. It is all abt perceptions, Ben. Bec a large number of people think GMA isn&#8217;t the president, how indeed can she rule? When you don&#8217;t have a cloud of doubt hanging over your presidency, do you think draconian measures are needed?</p>
<p>&#8220;a country where elective office can be bought and sold; where professional dagdag-bawas operators are in control; where false witnesses and fabricated evidence are cheaply available; where a culture of corruption permeates the society at large; where the rule of law takes a backseat to the rule of power, influence and money; is a country that is impossible to govern.&#8221;</p>
<p>Take your statement for example, with all that you&#8217;ve enumerated, it is clear what the next president must do to endear him/her to the masses. impossible to govern? only if the president starts believing that even before they have started their presidency. GMA employed political will on all the wrong reasons. perhaps the next president will find it in him/her to use it correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: Bencard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bencard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 20:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>got you, devilsadvoca8.  i think villar deserves some credit in giving the senate a new lease in life after the lowest ebb in its usefulness under drilon&#039;s leaderhip or lack of it.  however, unless somehow he, or anyone else aspiring to be president for that matter, satisfies all the competing interests in the country when he/she is elected, he/she will be wearing a virtual target sign on his/her front and back and end up employing draconian measures for survival. he/she will then be hated by many and unless the relentless enemies are kept at bay, he/she will be hounded out of power.  

a country where elective office can be bought and sold; where professional dagdag-bawas operators are in control; where false witnesses and fabricated evidence are cheaply available; where a culture of corruption permeates the  society at large; where the rule of law takes a backseat to the rule of power, influence and money; is a country that is impossible to govern.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>got you, devilsadvoca8.  i think villar deserves some credit in giving the senate a new lease in life after the lowest ebb in its usefulness under drilon&#8217;s leaderhip or lack of it.  however, unless somehow he, or anyone else aspiring to be president for that matter, satisfies all the competing interests in the country when he/she is elected, he/she will be wearing a virtual target sign on his/her front and back and end up employing draconian measures for survival. he/she will then be hated by many and unless the relentless enemies are kept at bay, he/she will be hounded out of power.  </p>
<p>a country where elective office can be bought and sold; where professional dagdag-bawas operators are in control; where false witnesses and fabricated evidence are cheaply available; where a culture of corruption permeates the  society at large; where the rule of law takes a backseat to the rule of power, influence and money; is a country that is impossible to govern.</p>
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		<title>By: devilsadvc8</title>
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		<dc:creator>devilsadvc8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 12:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;i really hope and pray that some bright, competent man or woman will emerge as the countryâ€™s top leader after PGMAâ€™s exit in 2010.&quot;

That makes two of us. My vote goes to Villar if he runs in 2010. Never to Drilon who&#039;s nothing but an opportunistic 2-timing pig, or to Mar Roxas who was suddenly struck dumb after topping the 2004 senatorial race, or to Legarda, Escudero, or Pangilinan, whose emptiness is masked by crisp talk.

Villar has the statemanship none from the opposition possess. He isn&#039;t a saint, but neither is he a scoundrel. He is shrewd, but his shrewdness doesn&#039;t border on crassness like GMA and her gang, who thinks they&#039;re being such smart-alecks when they bend the laws to their whims, using loopholes and downright strong-arm tactics.

&quot;But before that, i wish she continues to maintain our economic growth, if not improve on what is currently being accomplished. i know the naysayers would not like that because they would rather win an argument than see the country avoid going â€œto hell in a handbasketâ€ economically.&quot;

Ben, not all of us here who dislike GMA wishes the country ill just so we could see GMA&#039;s downfall. We all have different ideas, but most of us doesn&#039;t criticize GMA just bec we want to &quot;win an argument.&quot; We all criticize her bec there is a genuine reason to do so.

&quot;having said that, i donâ€™t fault devilsadvoc8 for using personal circumstance as a gauge to measure the countryâ€™s economy..&quot;

Thanks Bencard. We all see life from our own POV. That&#039;s relativity. That is why even though GDP experienced historic growth, only those who directly benefited from it are jumping for joy. I distinctly remember the FVR years. Life felt easy then. Brownouts were solved (increasingly recurring now), businesses boomed, and corruption, didn&#039;t pranced and parade like they were having a great time. Even when Erap took the helm, things didn&#039;t take a turn for the worse as much as everyone perceived it did.

Maybe I was just too young to remember, but that is how I saw it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;i really hope and pray that some bright, competent man or woman will emerge as the countryâ€™s top leader after PGMAâ€™s exit in 2010.&#8221;</p>
<p>That makes two of us. My vote goes to Villar if he runs in 2010. Never to Drilon who&#8217;s nothing but an opportunistic 2-timing pig, or to Mar Roxas who was suddenly struck dumb after topping the 2004 senatorial race, or to Legarda, Escudero, or Pangilinan, whose emptiness is masked by crisp talk.</p>
<p>Villar has the statemanship none from the opposition possess. He isn&#8217;t a saint, but neither is he a scoundrel. He is shrewd, but his shrewdness doesn&#8217;t border on crassness like GMA and her gang, who thinks they&#8217;re being such smart-alecks when they bend the laws to their whims, using loopholes and downright strong-arm tactics.</p>
<p>&#8220;But before that, i wish she continues to maintain our economic growth, if not improve on what is currently being accomplished. i know the naysayers would not like that because they would rather win an argument than see the country avoid going â€œto hell in a handbasketâ€ economically.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ben, not all of us here who dislike GMA wishes the country ill just so we could see GMA&#8217;s downfall. We all have different ideas, but most of us doesn&#8217;t criticize GMA just bec we want to &#8220;win an argument.&#8221; We all criticize her bec there is a genuine reason to do so.</p>
<p>&#8220;having said that, i donâ€™t fault devilsadvoc8 for using personal circumstance as a gauge to measure the countryâ€™s economy..&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks Bencard. We all see life from our own POV. That&#8217;s relativity. That is why even though GDP experienced historic growth, only those who directly benefited from it are jumping for joy. I distinctly remember the FVR years. Life felt easy then. Brownouts were solved (increasingly recurring now), businesses boomed, and corruption, didn&#8217;t pranced and parade like they were having a great time. Even when Erap took the helm, things didn&#8217;t take a turn for the worse as much as everyone perceived it did.</p>
<p>Maybe I was just too young to remember, but that is how I saw it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bencard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bencard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 16:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UPN student, i really hope and pray that some bright, competent man or woman will emerge as the country&#039;s top leader after PGMA&#039;s exit in 2010. but before that, i wish she continues to maintain our economic growth, if not improve on what is currently being accomplished. i know the naysayers would not like that because they would rather win an argument than see  the country avoid going &quot;to hell in a handbasket&quot; economically.

having said that, i don&#039;t fault devilsadvoc8 for using personal circumstance as a gauge to measure the country&#039;s economy, but i have a feeling most, if not all, the naysayers that i&#039;m referring to have as much, or better, net worth than mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPN student, i really hope and pray that some bright, competent man or woman will emerge as the country&#8217;s top leader after PGMA&#8217;s exit in 2010. but before that, i wish she continues to maintain our economic growth, if not improve on what is currently being accomplished. i know the naysayers would not like that because they would rather win an argument than see  the country avoid going &#8220;to hell in a handbasket&#8221; economically.</p>
<p>having said that, i don&#8217;t fault devilsadvoc8 for using personal circumstance as a gauge to measure the country&#8217;s economy, but i have a feeling most, if not all, the naysayers that i&#8217;m referring to have as much, or better, net worth than mine.</p>
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		<title>By: UP n student</title>
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		<dc:creator>UP n student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 14:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bencard:   I think that you, Abe Margallo and Ana de France share one thing in common, which is that your net worth really won&#039;t be affected much if things go hell in a handbasket in the Philippines.   

devilsadvoc8 leaves me the impression that he will hurt, and badly,  which may explain why he personalizes the economic metrics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bencard:   I think that you, Abe Margallo and Ana de France share one thing in common, which is that your net worth really won&#8217;t be affected much if things go hell in a handbasket in the Philippines.   </p>
<p>devilsadvoc8 leaves me the impression that he will hurt, and badly,  which may explain why he personalizes the economic metrics.</p>
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		<title>By: devilsadvc8</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/05/31/palace-dont-destabilize-emotions/comment-page-2/#comment-496476</link>
		<dc:creator>devilsadvc8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 05:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;devil, so the countryâ€™s economy is personal to you, huh? as long as youâ€™re o.k., to hell with everybody else, right?

Well, how else could I make the comparative analysis except from my POV, drawn from my memories? I said that there was an explanation why I thought today was worser than Erap&#039;s. And that was bec. of that. Assuming I am part of the regular Juans out there, and not of the MBC or corporate owners out there...

&quot;what was that profound-sounding analysis for? you could have fooled me&quot;

Which one are you talking about?

&quot;anyway, thanks for the bonus answer. I didâ€™nt need it because i didnâ€™t care for â€œb.sâ€ (as mlq3 would put it) even though it has some amusement value.&quot;

Your welcome, and I&#039;m glad I amused you. If my reasoning or opinions are wrong, let them rise or fall on their own merits. I know you disagree with everything I said, but why? You could correct me point by point you know. I am after all, just sounding wise but really very foolish inside. I know it would please you a lot to make me such a fool to everyone here. *sigh* indulge me please..

If I am mistaken, then I am.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;devil, so the countryâ€™s economy is personal to you, huh? as long as youâ€™re o.k., to hell with everybody else, right?</p>
<p>Well, how else could I make the comparative analysis except from my POV, drawn from my memories? I said that there was an explanation why I thought today was worser than Erap&#8217;s. And that was bec. of that. Assuming I am part of the regular Juans out there, and not of the MBC or corporate owners out there&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;what was that profound-sounding analysis for? you could have fooled me&#8221;</p>
<p>Which one are you talking about?</p>
<p>&#8220;anyway, thanks for the bonus answer. I didâ€™nt need it because i didnâ€™t care for â€œb.sâ€ (as mlq3 would put it) even though it has some amusement value.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your welcome, and I&#8217;m glad I amused you. If my reasoning or opinions are wrong, let them rise or fall on their own merits. I know you disagree with everything I said, but why? You could correct me point by point you know. I am after all, just sounding wise but really very foolish inside. I know it would please you a lot to make me such a fool to everyone here. *sigh* indulge me please..</p>
<p>If I am mistaken, then I am.</p>
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		<title>By: Bencard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bencard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 03:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>devil, so the country&#039;s economy is personal to you, huh? as long as you&#039;re o.k., to hell with everybody else, right?
what was that profound-sounding analysis for? you could have fooled me.
 
anyway, thanks for the bonus answer. I did&#039;nt need it because i didn&#039;t care for &quot;b.s&quot; (as mlq3 would put it) even though it has some amusement value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>devil, so the country&#8217;s economy is personal to you, huh? as long as you&#8217;re o.k., to hell with everybody else, right?<br />
what was that profound-sounding analysis for? you could have fooled me.</p>
<p>anyway, thanks for the bonus answer. I did&#8217;nt need it because i didn&#8217;t care for &#8220;b.s&#8221; (as mlq3 would put it) even though it has some amusement value.</p>
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		<title>By: devilsadvc8</title>
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		<dc:creator>devilsadvc8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 01:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;just one question for you: economically speaking, is the country better off now than when cory or erap left the presidency or not?&quot;

Gee, jeopardy is it? Answer: What is selective reasoning?
We seem to be missing one president, as if we skipped a timeline...

Ok, I&#039;ll indulge you (sigh)..

A: Better off than Cory&#039;s time, worser than Erap&#039;s.
(only one explanation for this. MY purchasing power was greater in Erap&#039;s time than today)

And that, is economically speaking. Let&#039;s go on to the other facets of society shall we? Like peace and order, or peace and order, or -- where are our KIDS goddamit! wtf do parents care abt stock exchange when majority of Filipinos aren&#039;t even stock players? a rosy economy is worth sh*t when you&#039;ve got your citizens disappearing like people in the &quot;Left Behind&quot; series. And as for that trickledown, I&#039;m still waiting for it. So why don&#039;t you solicit your &quot;thank-yous&quot; from Donald Dee and elsewhere &#039;coz I surely aint giving it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;just one question for you: economically speaking, is the country better off now than when cory or erap left the presidency or not?&#8221;</p>
<p>Gee, jeopardy is it? Answer: What is selective reasoning?<br />
We seem to be missing one president, as if we skipped a timeline&#8230;</p>
<p>Ok, I&#8217;ll indulge you (sigh)..</p>
<p>A: Better off than Cory&#8217;s time, worser than Erap&#8217;s.<br />
(only one explanation for this. MY purchasing power was greater in Erap&#8217;s time than today)</p>
<p>And that, is economically speaking. Let&#8217;s go on to the other facets of society shall we? Like peace and order, or peace and order, or &#8212; where are our KIDS goddamit! wtf do parents care abt stock exchange when majority of Filipinos aren&#8217;t even stock players? a rosy economy is worth sh*t when you&#8217;ve got your citizens disappearing like people in the &#8220;Left Behind&#8221; series. And as for that trickledown, I&#8217;m still waiting for it. So why don&#8217;t you solicit your &#8220;thank-yous&#8221; from Donald Dee and elsewhere &#8216;coz I surely aint giving it.</p>
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