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	<title>Comments on: Club 56</title>
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		<title>By: ay_naku</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/05/17/club-56/comment-page-2/#comment-485498</link>
		<dc:creator>ay_naku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 16:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UPn Student, I think at this point we&#039;re all mostly aware of the mechanics of the Garci dagdag-bawas. We&#039;ve heard the tapes, the explanations from the parties concerned, the Newsbreak (excellent piece of reporting) and other media investigations on the matter, and using our best judgment, we&#039;ve mostly concluded that GMA did indeed cheat big-time. We&#039;re also aware about the extents GMA went to cover her ass -- lots of illegal manueverings (and eventually being rebuffed by the SC several times), harassment, bribery, etc.

And yet none of those seemed to matter come impeachment voting time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPn Student, I think at this point we&#8217;re all mostly aware of the mechanics of the Garci dagdag-bawas. We&#8217;ve heard the tapes, the explanations from the parties concerned, the Newsbreak (excellent piece of reporting) and other media investigations on the matter, and using our best judgment, we&#8217;ve mostly concluded that GMA did indeed cheat big-time. We&#8217;re also aware about the extents GMA went to cover her ass &#8212; lots of illegal manueverings (and eventually being rebuffed by the SC several times), harassment, bribery, etc.</p>
<p>And yet none of those seemed to matter come impeachment voting time.</p>
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		<title>By: UPn student</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/05/17/club-56/comment-page-2/#comment-485484</link>
		<dc:creator>UPn student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 16:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ay_naku:  the impeachment case should be a lot stronger the day someone publishes the mechanics of Garci dagdag-bawas.

But it looks like them who know the secret are not sharing.  It is like the Mission-Impossible line:  &quot;I can tell you, but then I&#039;ll have to kill you&quot;.
I&#039;ve also heard along the theme of a schoolteacher-to-grade-one-kid  that IT is &quot;... too complicated for the child to understand&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ay_naku:  the impeachment case should be a lot stronger the day someone publishes the mechanics of Garci dagdag-bawas.</p>
<p>But it looks like them who know the secret are not sharing.  It is like the Mission-Impossible line:  &#8220;I can tell you, but then I&#8217;ll have to kill you&#8221;.<br />
I&#8217;ve also heard along the theme of a schoolteacher-to-grade-one-kid  that IT is &#8220;&#8230; too complicated for the child to understand&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: ay_naku</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/05/17/club-56/comment-page-2/#comment-485467</link>
		<dc:creator>ay_naku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 15:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pagalingan ba manghula ang labanan dito ngayon? Aba&#039;y tawagin na sina Madam Auring et al!

There will most probably no impeachment, but shouldn&#039;t the question be: should there be an impeachment?

Jusme, madali naman manghula. Eh manindigan kaya?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pagalingan ba manghula ang labanan dito ngayon? Aba&#8217;y tawagin na sina Madam Auring et al!</p>
<p>There will most probably no impeachment, but shouldn&#8217;t the question be: should there be an impeachment?</p>
<p>Jusme, madali naman manghula. Eh manindigan kaya?</p>
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		<title>By: The Ca t</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/05/17/club-56/comment-page-2/#comment-485412</link>
		<dc:creator>The Ca t</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 13:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The cat: Ã¢â‚¬Å“Wanna bet, there is no impeachment?Ã¢â‚¬Â

Obviously you can only see, and will only bet on, what is obviousÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ :)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not at this time when the tally board shows 8 Go and we all know that the only platform of GO is impeachment.

Remove those blinders. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The cat: Ã¢â‚¬Å“Wanna bet, there is no impeachment?Ã¢â‚¬Â</p>
<p>Obviously you can only see, and will only bet on, what is obviousÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ <img src='http://www.quezon.ph/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
<p>Not at this time when the tally board shows 8 Go and we all know that the only platform of GO is impeachment.</p>
<p>Remove those blinders. <img src='http://www.quezon.ph/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: UPn student</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/05/17/club-56/comment-page-2/#comment-485403</link>
		<dc:creator>UPn student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 13:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lack of automation for vote-counting is insane.   Once the precinct-level count has been certified, having the numbers roll up to the city-, provincial-, regional- and national level can be done in a manner that provides both speed, integrity, and visibility.  Check-digits can be used so that instances where a 182,453 vote-count becomes 82,453 gets flagged automatically.
   And if the software and technology is in France or  India, then buy.  Maski-paps made-in-the-Philippines can be much more expensive than the country can afford.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lack of automation for vote-counting is insane.   Once the precinct-level count has been certified, having the numbers roll up to the city-, provincial-, regional- and national level can be done in a manner that provides both speed, integrity, and visibility.  Check-digits can be used so that instances where a 182,453 vote-count becomes 82,453 gets flagged automatically.<br />
   And if the software and technology is in France or  India, then buy.  Maski-paps made-in-the-Philippines can be much more expensive than the country can afford.</p>
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		<title>By: UPn student</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/05/17/club-56/comment-page-2/#comment-485383</link>
		<dc:creator>UPn student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 12:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After all the time past, not a single detail has come out, not even a  &quot;If I were Garci,  this is how i would have done it&quot; expose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After all the time past, not a single detail has come out, not even a  &#8220;If I were Garci,  this is how i would have done it&#8221; expose.</p>
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		<title>By: UPn student</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/05/17/club-56/comment-page-2/#comment-485376</link>
		<dc:creator>UPn student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 12:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cvj:  don&#039;t care much about names nor places;  we&#039;re looking for the method; also cost and number of layers in the implementing organization  ---  but after all the time past, not a single detail has come out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cvj:  don&#8217;t care much about names nor places;  we&#8217;re looking for the method; also cost and number of layers in the implementing organization  &#8212;  but after all the time past, not a single detail has come out.</p>
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		<title>By: UPn student</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/05/17/club-56/comment-page-2/#comment-485366</link>
		<dc:creator>UPn student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 12:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cvj:  a story is that the &quot;Garci&quot; was a con job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cvj:  a story is that the &#8220;Garci&#8221; was a con job.</p>
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		<title>By: cvj</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/05/17/club-56/comment-page-2/#comment-485306</link>
		<dc:creator>cvj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 09:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon M, the way he will be remembered by history, if i had his surname, i&#039;d change it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon M, the way he will be remembered by history, if i had his surname, i&#8217;d change it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Mariano</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/05/17/club-56/comment-page-2/#comment-485226</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Mariano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 07:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CVJ, you and Abalos are on entirely different planes. You&#039;re talking of impeaching him (I agree!), but he is talking of his legacy when he retires in 2010! Apparently in his eyes he&#039;s done a swell job at the Comelec.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CVJ, you and Abalos are on entirely different planes. You&#8217;re talking of impeaching him (I agree!), but he is talking of his legacy when he retires in 2010! Apparently in his eyes he&#8217;s done a swell job at the Comelec.</p>
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