Comments on: Compressed air car http://www.quezon.ph/2007/02/27/compressed-air-car/ Punditry. Politics. History. Commentary. Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:35:33 +0000 hourly 1 By: Philippine Vigil http://www.quezon.ph/2007/02/27/compressed-air-car/comment-page-1/#comment-434154 Philippine Vigil Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:09:11 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1168#comment-434154 Re: hi-tech and patents Most of our current civilian technologies were patented by defence companies for military use at the beginning. In other words, what we use in our every-day lives are military derivatives. Fortunately not all defence patents are available to the public and rightly so. Some of the world's biggest defence companies' real wealth lies in their tech patents. Their hardware storages are almost nil. Pinas engineers could actually come up with their own hi-tech innovations for the country's own defence and civilian use inasmuch as lots of civilian hi-techs are 60 to 70% software devolpment and 30 to 40% hardware. Most engineers and technicians employed circa 70s by European defence companies in the Middle East and in Iraq (before the US quagmire there), for instance were solidly Pinoys. Re: hi-tech and patents

Most of our current civilian technologies were patented by defence companies for military use at the beginning.

In other words, what we use in our every-day lives are military derivatives. Fortunately not all defence patents are available to the public and rightly so. Some of the world’s biggest defence companies’ real wealth lies in their tech patents. Their hardware storages are almost nil.

Pinas engineers could actually come up with their own hi-tech innovations for the country’s own defence and civilian use inasmuch as lots of civilian hi-techs are 60 to 70% software devolpment and 30 to 40% hardware.

Most engineers and technicians employed circa 70s by European defence companies in the Middle East and in Iraq (before the US quagmire there), for instance were solidly Pinoys.

]]> By: cvj http://www.quezon.ph/2007/02/27/compressed-air-car/comment-page-1/#comment-433993 cvj Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:50:26 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1168#comment-433993 DJB, i agree that the quality and authenticity of medicines should not be sacrificed. There should be a certification system in place that will accommodate *both* the pharmaceuticals and the viajeras to protect the public. As for the source, it does not matter to me whether these are locally manufactured or imported as long as they are available at an affordable cost. IMHO, the Pharmaceutical sector is not a good candidate for a local Industrial Policy. The term "agents of Empire" is not meant to be rhetoric. It is part of an analytical framework which recognizes that at this stage of capitalism, the system seeks to preserve itself through non-stop war (i.e. GWB's 'Long War'), and that Corporations seek to extract profit by converting as much of the <i>Common</i> (what is shared by everybody) into private property. Since we are at a point where immaterial production is becoming the dominant form, this aggressive seeking of new kinds of private property comes by way of Intellectual Property Laws. In this situation, the profits of these corporations become more like quasi-rents which are good for the few, but bad for the majority. (For further details, you can read Hardt and Negri's books 'Empire' and 'Multitude'.) BTW, for anyone who has a good idea or invention but for some reason is not able or willing to apply for a patent, the alternative would be to publish so that such idea or invention can be in the public domain and as such, no longer patentable by anyone else. We're lucky that ideas like the spreadsheet and the web browser were not patented by its original inventors. So much better for the Common. pingkian, glad to hear from you again. DJB, i agree that the quality and authenticity of medicines should not be sacrificed. There should be a certification system in place that will accommodate *both* the pharmaceuticals and the viajeras to protect the public. As for the source, it does not matter to me whether these are locally manufactured or imported as long as they are available at an affordable cost. IMHO, the Pharmaceutical sector is not a good candidate for a local Industrial Policy.

The term “agents of Empire” is not meant to be rhetoric. It is part of an analytical framework which recognizes that at this stage of capitalism, the system seeks to preserve itself through non-stop war (i.e. GWB’s ‘Long War’), and that Corporations seek to extract profit by converting as much of the Common (what is shared by everybody) into private property. Since we are at a point where immaterial production is becoming the dominant form, this aggressive seeking of new kinds of private property comes by way of Intellectual Property Laws. In this situation, the profits of these corporations become more like quasi-rents which are good for the few, but bad for the majority. (For further details, you can read Hardt and Negri’s books ‘Empire’ and ‘Multitude’.)

BTW, for anyone who has a good idea or invention but for some reason is not able or willing to apply for a patent, the alternative would be to publish so that such idea or invention can be in the public domain and as such, no longer patentable by anyone else. We’re lucky that ideas like the spreadsheet and the web browser were not patented by its original inventors. So much better for the Common.

pingkian, glad to hear from you again.

]]> By: rego http://www.quezon.ph/2007/02/27/compressed-air-car/comment-page-1/#comment-433980 rego Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:32:22 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1168#comment-433980 "In fairness to actors and actresses, they are not the authors of the political mess our country is in. It is the handiwork of economists like gloria macapagal arroyo".---the bystander --------------------------------------------------------- Isn't Erap came from showbiz? And what is his positive contribution to the progress of the country. If you would only rewind it just a littel bit. There can be no Gloria without Erap. Naglasing ng nag lasing si Erap sa Malacanang, nangurakot, umabuso. Pinatalsik at pinalitan ng Gloria....Walang Gloria kung hindi nag loko si Erap. “In fairness to actors and actresses, they are not the authors of the political mess our country is in. It is the handiwork of economists like gloria macapagal arroyo”.—the bystander
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Isn’t Erap came from showbiz? And what is his positive contribution to the progress of the country. If you would only rewind it just a littel bit. There can be no Gloria without Erap. Naglasing ng nag lasing si Erap sa Malacanang, nangurakot, umabuso. Pinatalsik at pinalitan ng Gloria….Walang Gloria kung hindi nag loko si Erap.

]]> By: UPn student http://www.quezon.ph/2007/02/27/compressed-air-car/comment-page-1/#comment-433978 UPn student Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:20:10 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1168#comment-433978 In addition, many a thing jumps in commercial value only when it enters the US and/or EU markets. Strains of rice were just strains of rice until some marketing folks realized that they can multiply twenty-times over the value of a particular strain of rice by branding it, packaging it differently, and then plunking money up-front to raise the visibility of the new product. Who wants to pay 25%-extra for brown rice, anyway? But Basmati, that's a different story. And someone can probably have a reasonable-sized business with "Baguio-mountain terraced wild rice organic", but one has to put money down first to grow the market (and has to decide whether to use Kennon Road, or the image of the Marcos-statue on the packaging). In addition, many a thing jumps in commercial value only when it enters the US and/or EU markets. Strains of rice were just strains of rice until some marketing folks realized that they can multiply twenty-times over the value of a particular strain of rice by branding it, packaging it differently, and then plunking money up-front to raise the visibility of the new product.
Who wants to pay 25%-extra for brown rice, anyway? But Basmati, that’s a different story. And someone can probably have a reasonable-sized business with “Baguio-mountain terraced wild rice organic”, but one has to put money down first to grow the market (and has to decide whether to use Kennon Road, or the image of the Marcos-statue on the packaging).

]]> By: UPn student http://www.quezon.ph/2007/02/27/compressed-air-car/comment-page-1/#comment-433972 UPn student Wed, 28 Feb 2007 06:06:19 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1168#comment-433972 watchful eye: Some people do not take the little extra (or the huge extra) effort to put a patent around some "thing". If a person does not believe that what they have is worth something, then there should be no hard feelings when not a centavo heads into their bank account. watchful eye: Some people do not take the little extra (or the huge extra) effort to put a patent around some “thing”. If a person does not believe that what they have is worth something, then there should be no hard feelings when not a centavo heads into their bank account.

]]> By: watchful eye http://www.quezon.ph/2007/02/27/compressed-air-car/comment-page-1/#comment-433961 watchful eye Wed, 28 Feb 2007 05:37:43 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1168#comment-433961 ... does not mean they have no value. … does not mean they have no value.

]]> By: watchful eye http://www.quezon.ph/2007/02/27/compressed-air-car/comment-page-1/#comment-433960 watchful eye Wed, 28 Feb 2007 05:35:50 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1168#comment-433960 Seriously, one thing that bothers me is the privatization of intellectual commons, like my lola’s concoction for my asthma from her medicinal garden which she freely shared with our barrio folks, or perhaps the de-intellectualization of those properties common among villagers as a basis for commoditizing them by corporate business - for profit. Because some ‘properties’ have no price does not they have no value. Seriously, one thing that bothers me is the privatization of intellectual commons, like my lola’s concoction for my asthma from her medicinal garden which she freely shared with our barrio folks, or perhaps the de-intellectualization of those properties common among villagers as a basis for commoditizing them by corporate business – for profit.

Because some ‘properties’ have no price does not they have no value.

]]> By: Francis http://www.quezon.ph/2007/02/27/compressed-air-car/comment-page-1/#comment-433928 Francis Wed, 28 Feb 2007 03:21:20 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1168#comment-433928 CVJ is not for IP thievery, she's againts IP being used by large corporation as a leverage against upcoming innovators. Blackboard patent LMS BlackBerry vs NTP IBM vs SCO RIAAs lawsuits Microsoft spreading FUD about Linux IP violations Patent trolls CVJ is not for IP thievery, she’s againts IP being used by large corporation as a leverage against upcoming innovators.

Blackboard patent LMS
BlackBerry vs NTP
IBM vs SCO
RIAAs lawsuits
Microsoft spreading FUD about Linux IP violations
Patent trolls

]]> By: watchful eye http://www.quezon.ph/2007/02/27/compressed-air-car/comment-page-1/#comment-433915 watchful eye Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:58:53 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1168#comment-433915 Now I'm really really mad, I saw one of my bolero routines copied at Dancing with the Stars. I'm gonna sue. Yeeaahh! Now I’m really really mad, I saw one of my bolero routines copied at Dancing with the Stars. I’m gonna sue. Yeeaahh!

]]> By: DJB http://www.quezon.ph/2007/02/27/compressed-air-car/comment-page-1/#comment-433911 DJB Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:42:22 +0000 http://www.quezon.ph/?p=1168#comment-433911 Folks, there is simply no avoiding the perception that we are a nation of IP thieves. Granted, piracy is a global problem, but my God, we certainly cannot pretend to be standing on high moral ground on this issue. Take a look at CVJ's comment above:<b>While the focus of the law has been on the pirates, the greater danger lies with the corporations (and their allies in government), who, as agents of Empire, seek to close off the intellectual frontier through strict interpretation and aggressive enforcement of intellectual property laws, in the name of profits. </b> This is a lil bit like saying, while the focus of laws against bank robbery are bank robbers, it is the bankers, who as agents of Money, are a threat to the financial community because they want to suppress the bandidos. Further, CVJ sez: <b>Among scientific and medical communities where open collaboration and information sharing is the key to new discoveries and innovation, restrictive intellectual property laws and practices are emerging as a real threat.</b> Yet, 90% of Nobel Laureates in science and medicine come from the US, where IPRs are most strongly protected and the laws enforced. IP thievery will not free science and medicine innovation. It will kill it. Folks, there is simply no avoiding the perception that we are a nation of IP thieves. Granted, piracy is a global problem, but my God, we certainly cannot pretend to be standing on high moral ground on this issue. Take a look at CVJ’s comment above:While the focus of the law has been on the pirates, the greater danger lies with the corporations (and their allies in government), who, as agents of Empire, seek to close off the intellectual frontier through strict interpretation and aggressive enforcement of intellectual property laws, in the name of profits.

This is a lil bit like saying, while the focus of laws against bank robbery are bank robbers, it is the bankers, who as agents of Money, are a threat to the financial community because they want to suppress the bandidos.

Further, CVJ sez:

Among scientific and medical communities where open collaboration and information sharing is the key to new discoveries and innovation, restrictive intellectual property laws and practices are emerging as a real threat.

Yet, 90% of Nobel Laureates in science and medicine come from the US, where IPRs are most strongly protected and the laws enforced.

IP thievery will not free science and medicine innovation. It will kill it.

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