Two party system?
Tell me why, when you peruse this list of accredited party list groups, an organization like Ang Ladlad isn’t qualified, but an association of electrical cooperatives, local traders, and Marcos loyalists made the cut?
the perfect trio: Sotto, Oreta, and Pichay (SOP) to campaign together. Opposition makes opening salvo in campaign. Malaya reports administration candidates have asked the President not to be seen with them (perhaps according to the same logic that had Republicans avoiding Bush during the recent mid terms).
House campaign news: Darlene Custodio will go mano a mano with Pacquiao. Scuttlebutt long bruited about finally makes it to the news: the Speaker faces a fight and Luis Villafuerte is at odds with his son (part of the ongoing cannibalism among administration parties). This is just strange, from the same story: the President’s chief of staff makes a bibulous political gambit.
Comelec launches voter education website, according to this report.
In the punditocracy, the Inquirer editorial points says the administration ended up scraping the bottom of the barrel to put together its senate slate.
Manuel Buencamino castigates the entire Wednesday Club. Ellen Tordesillas says the President and Recto et al. deserve each other. Marichu Villanueva says the Palace is furious at Manuel Villar, Jr.
Bong Austero looks into the media projection of various candidates.
In the blogosphere, An entry on the two-party system caught my eye. James Cartmire thinks we are slowly, though informally, returning to the two-party system, and if so, that’s a healthy political development.
One person’s advocacy is another person’s spin? So say Alex Maximo and Abe Olandres who discuss how campaigns will be fought out in cyberspace.
No updates from today to Sunday, I’m going to Bacolod to deliver a couple of talks on opinion writing and blogging.
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Here’s one of the dumbest lines I’ve read in a long time. It’s Emil Jurado’s mangling of the administration line about character assassination versus issues based politics.
“I agree it’s insane, what’s going on. Voters are compelled to vote not on what candidates represent, much less what they stand for, nor what is their party platform, but on what kind of people they really are.”
In America, even without the vote buying, the public relations machinery of political parties strongly believe that MONEY makes candidate win, media packaging is like cinemaatography in movies where actors are made to look better and advertisements get the votes for the candidates.
No doubt every avenue is being considered during this election, and cyberspace is definitely one of the highways that is growing (exponentially) in appeal.
probably the likes of joker, zubiri and defensor would rather not be seen with them.
and the senators don’t want to be seen with arroyo. pera lang ang kailangan nila, oks na.
Let’s hope that Darlene Custodio’s going mano a mano with Pacquiao will net her two other KO punches: 1 against Fatso Mike ‘Malacanang Don’ Arroyo, 1 against Chavit Criminal Singson, both well-known handlers of the poor sod Pacquiao and by extension against the Malacanang Mafia Matriarch, Gloria Bansot Arroyo.
I also was going through the approved party list and I was really disgusted on what om what is the criteria or rules about party list. I really feel that Ang Ladlad is a good candidate of party list election.
Danton Remoto theory is that recent election survey is showing that we can easily get two or three seats. And that scares the COMELEC and its favored party list.
But course we will never be cowed. May plan B rin kami no? Ayaw nila kaming pasalihin sa Party list eh di sa senatorail election na lang. After all pareho naman national ang scope nito. Di pa ako mahihirapan i campaign sa mga straights. Kasi im not really that to out them.
well, the comelec probably didn’t considers gays & lesbian marginalized people seeing they are already ably represented in the both houses of congress. wanna bet?
The party-list system as it stands today is senseless. It’s supposed to give representation to “marginalized sectors”. But the system has been so prostituted that it appears to me that every group with a particular predilection, orientation, or trait is considered “marginalized”. Are cunnilingus-lovers marginalized too?
The sector that I consider really marginalized are the indigenous peoples. I don’t even consider the poor marginalized, as far as representation goes. Name me one politician, just one, who doesn’t “love” the poor.
Will somebody please put reason into all this?
Shaman: After the May2007 elections, you will have a chance to provide input into making sense of “marginalized” and party-list when the constitution is updated. So the question is which candidates (UNO, UNI, Independents) will tend to side with GMA’s proposals.
UPn student,
I believe there is a universal consensus that the Constitution needs some amending. What was wrong about what you call “GMA’s proposals” and the manner these were pushed last year was that they were fashioned with a singular objective – GMA’s political survival.
I’m voting straight UNO down to the local level and pray they win, so that when the time to amend the Constitution comes, these “GMA proposals” will not prosper.
I’m in favor of a deliberate, well-organized, well-considered effort to amend the Constitution through a Constitutional Convention.
So the question is, after the election-results have been certified by the COMELEC and the voters have gone back to their normal lives, who of the UNO, UNI and INDependent candidates will tend to be swayed by the arguments and inducements that GMA may bring to bear. Just remember that practically all the senators and congressmen will want term-limits to be raised.
Shaman,
All politicians love the poor But are there politicians who love cunnilingus lovers? How’s is that for being marginalized?
Rego, there are policians who love cunnilingus.
I mean “politicians”.
UPn student,
Hopefully, after the elections and UNO has won, GMA will be impeached and convicted. So, she won’t be there anymore to induce and seduce.
After the election and the new senators have taken their seats at great expense, do you people sincerely believe that they will be amenable to change the constitution by any means and risk losing their jobs if the senate is abolished?
the constitution will never be changed as long as the elite who are protecting their monopolies of media, transport, and telecommunications are around to thwart all attempts of amending or revising the charter. Another revolution, and I hope this time will be bloody will be the only way to change the constitution.
Zapper, what makes you so sure that the Senate would be abolished? I didn’t even say revise the Constitution. i said amend.
But all this talk about amending the Consitution is premature. This came up because I was only responding to UPn student’s comments.
[...] For the past few days, there’s much buzz on how the Web will be a venue for campaigns and elections-related discourses. I’ve written a couple or so posts on the topic and thanks to those I raked in a few more uniques yesterday for my young blog (well, thanks to MLQ III for linking). [...]
Oh di tama nga ang hinala ko about Alan Peter Cayetano
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House records show Zubiri most prolific lawmaker, Cayetano least productive
By Delon Porcalla
The Philippine Star 02/15/2007
Bukidnon Rep. Juan Miguel Zubiri was the most prolific among the five congressmen running for the Senate in the May 14 elections, and Taguig-Pateros Rep. Alan Peter Cayetano was the least productive, according to official records obtained by The STAR.
The records showed that Cayetano “authored none and co-authored none” of the 37 laws that Congress had passed since July 2004, as compared to the four other lawmakers.
Zubiri sponsored two bills passed into law, among them Republic Act 9341, or the Rental Reform Act of 2005, and RA 936, the Biofuels Act of 2006.
The pro-administration’s Unity Ticket candidate is also credited with co-authoring seven other bills that were eventually signed into law by President Arroyo.
Representatives Benigno “Noynoy” Aquino III of Tarlac and Prospero Pichay of Surigao del Sur each co-sponsored four bills that have been passed into law.
House Minority Leader Francis Escudero authored none but co-authored three of the laws that have consequently been enacted.
Aquino and Escudero joined a multitude of lawmakers in resetting the barangay elections (RA 9340), repealing the death penalty law (RA 9346) and helped pass the Juvenile Justice System (RA 9344) Bill of Aurora Rep. Juan Edgardo “Sonny” Angara.
Pichay co-authored four, the last being a local measure. So did Aquino, who helped pass RA 9354 sponsored by his provincemate, Tarlac Rep. Gilbert Teodoro, who withdrew his senatorial bid.
Escudero had the most number of House bills authored, with 77 measures, 51 of which remain pending, 18 have been substituted by several related bills, while eight have been transmitted to the Senate for approval.
Next was Pichay with 66 bills filed in the 13th Congress; 40 of which are still under deliberations in the committee level, 13 measures substituted and the remaining 13 others were elevated to the Senate.
Third was Zubiri. Out of 61 bills, two have been signed into law by Mrs. Arroyo – the Rental Reform Act and the Biofuels Act – and eight have been forwarded to the Senate.
Fifteen were substituted with related bills, and the 36 others remain pending.
Cayetano came in fourth. He filed 12 bills; three have been sent to the Senate, five remain pending, while the four others have been substituted with other related measures.
Last was Aquino with eight bills authored, one of which was transmitted to the Senate, while another is on third and final reading in the House. Two bills of his were substituted, while three are undergoing committee deliberation.
All five congressmen will be “graduating” by June 30. They are on their third and last term and can no longer seek reelection.
Rego, number of laws passed is a simplistic measure of performance in Congress. It’s like saying that Recto (the street, not the Senator) is the most productive because it produces the most number of diplomas.
zapper… you are right, the members of the new congress after May2007 will not want to lose their jobs. So if you are GMA, would you make them an offer that they can see as a risk to their newly-won jobs, or will you offer the promise of lifting the term-limits?
As for the elite of media and telecom and transport, they are probably the easiest to convince for a charter change. Again, if you were GMA, you won’t offer them higher taxes, you offer increased business opportunities. There is a particular constitutional item that can easily be made attractive to almost everybody, and this is the one on “nuclear” on Philippine soil. You should expect alliances to form quickly — e.g. which Philippine group with which European company, etcetera — so that the Philippine electrical needs can be met by nuclear power plants. If you do your research, you’ll see a lot of countries (best example is France) that successfully use nuclear power plants on their soil.
But back to the elections and getting congressmen and senators into office who are in favor of GMA’s impeachment. Needless to say, the voters (and not soldiers being directed by coup-plotters) hold the key. Many of these voters are like the elite of media and telecom… they follow the “what’s in it for me?” philosophy. If this voter looks at “Garci” as “laos na iyan.. iba naman” and cares more about jobs, education… also law-and-order, you may want to tell the voters why (your) candidates will be the best choices for jobs, education, and law-and-order.
cvj,
Common CVJ, passing laws is the primary job description of a congressman….
What Alan Peter did is that he stayed so much on doing papogi in the media used all his time ganging up the Arroyos.So he will be very visible to the media. Resulta wala rin. Hindi rin na convict si Miek Arroyo hindi na impeach si Gloria. Wala ring naipasang batas.
So ano na lang ang accomplishments nya?
Now I think I going to vote for Miguel Zubiri.
Rego, of course passing laws is part of their job, but so is upholding the rule of law. Zubiri was one of those who showed disrespect to the Constitution with their unilateral Con-Ass initiative. That brazen attempt was successfully stopped with the help of oppositionists like Cayetano.
zapper, shaman and francis… you will probably enjoy each other’s company as you shout “talsik diyan!” and “sobra na ang daya… Garci! Garci! Garci!”, and you should get together often to give each other energy. But always remember that there are the rego’s and the bencard’s who will negate your votes. This means that you (if you really want pro-impeachment folks into the new congress) will have to talk to the middle-class — the call-center workers, teachers, nurses, principals, small-business owners, department-store workers, etcetera — as well as the classes-D and -E. For these folks, you may have to tone down your screeches and listen for a few minutes, then talk as to how your candidates can serve this voter well. [The cvj-approach of laying a guilt-trip on the voter probably won't work. Especially when they learn that you may have been part of the push-out-ERAP marchers.]
Remember that the GMA-machinery is bombarding the airwaves with radio- and TV-ads and have their own footsoldiers walking and talking to the voters. To win May2007 will need you to be a listener before a talker.
Sponsored laws, authored laws, yeah, sure. About what? Renaming a street or a bridge?
So, what are those laws about, exactly?
Even if a congressman has not authored many laws, he can still be an effective legislator by actively participating in the deliberations of bills submitted by other legislators.
CVJ is right, mere numbers are no big deal.
blockquote>To win May2007 will need you to be a listener before a talker.
Right you are, UPn.
It’s only guilt-trip for those voters who explicitly or tacitly support Arroyo’s cheating. For those who were cheated, as well as those who are against cheating, it’s about Justice and fairness, which by the way, are key ingredients to any nation’s economic development.
CVJ,
Proposing changes to the consitution is not desrepecting the laws There is nothing wrong with proposing changes in the consitition. Its up to the people if they would agree to the propose change or the way it is being proposed. And its for the author of the proposal to take heed that feed back from the people. Thats what Zubiri did .
And oh look who’s talking!
If you care to read back all your comments in these blog you have proposed a lot of changes in the laws. And even some are really unconsitutional.
And of course another big issue with Alan Peter is there political dynasty! Does he really need to be in the senate to make this our country really progressive. Her sister is already there, Can he noy just work with her sister?.
Kayo comment kayo ng comment na nakakahiya yung mag ginagawa ni Gloria at gusto nyo syang i pahiya sa buong mundo.
Pero yung pag kakoroon ng magkapatid sa senate ay obviously pagtatawanan tayo sa buong mundo. Bakit wla na bang ibang kandidato?
See thats how twisted you are because of the so much hatred in you.
Thanks, UPn student, for your advice on campaign strategy. But, frankly, I don’t understand what you are trying to say. Frankly.
Yeah right, Shaman! you said you are not for political dynasty in the other thread and here you are defending the candidacy of Aln Peter. What happened to THE word CONSISTENT?
Rego, of course we now know that the constitutional changes that Zubiri et al. proposed and tried to railroad were repudiated by the people, that’s why they backtracked. Shows their real quality as legislators – poor.
And thE sad thing Shaman, not even renaming the streets walang naipasa yang si Alan Peter mo. And here you are telling as that we will be better off with these people than Mrs Aroyo?
OHH PPPLLLEEAAASSE!!!!!!
To refresh your memory, the House wanted to propose Constitutional change unilaterally (i.e. without the Senate), which is against the provisions of the existing Constitution.
As for political dynasties, there is no shame in having two Cayetanos in the Senate as long as they got there by their own merits. Even the United States have their political families in the form of the Kennedy’s and Clintons (not to mention the Bushes) and family affiliation is not the main points raised against them.
But Zubiri did not coerce the people. When the peopel repudiated his proposal and the way he proposed, he respected that!
CVJ,
When did the US have two Clintons, two Bushes, and Kennedys in the senate?
Good merits huh? Alan Peter is going to the senate by manipulating the public. He knows that he can longer run for another term in the congress. So he has to highlight as many issues as he can against the Aroyos to get all the media attention and natioanl scope at that. Paikutikotin ang issue para tumagal at humaba. Issue a lot of innuendos para laging nasa headlines . And in the end hindi kayang i subsantiate ang kanyang accusation. But of course all the hearings along the way are covered by the media.
Pero ang bottomline wala na accomplsihe kahait mana lang makasuhan si Mike Arroyo.
Ah oo nga pala, the strategy is to keep dangling the head of Mr Aroyo to the public. “Put me in the senate and I will deliver you the head of Mr Arroyo in silver platter”
Kahit nadoon na ang ate ko!
Rego,
Real political dynasty involves succession – a father handing down the position to his son, daughter, wife, sibling, grandchild, great grandchild, keeping the position within the family as some sort of a heirloom. Kaya nga dynasty, yung parang Ming or Tang or Hapsburg.
The political dynasty issue being raised against siblings or father and son finding themselves together in Congress is a false issue. To me, Mikey’s, Iggy’s, or Dato’s (if he wins) being in Congress together does not a political dynasty make.
So, the charge of political dynasty against Alan just because Pia is in the Senate is false.
“And thE sad thing Shaman, not even renaming the streets walang naipasa yang si Alan Peter mo. And here you are telling as that we will be better off with these people than Mrs Aroyo?
OHH PPPLLLEEAAASSE!!!!!! ” – rego
Siguro, okay pa lahat ng street names sa Taguig. No need to change them.
“But Zubiri did not coerce the people. When the peopel repudiated his proposal and the way he proposed, he respected that!” – rego
He had to, or else…
Pwede ba Shaman, matalino ka naman so wag ng magbobohan! At wag ng lituhin pa ang publiko. Ilang million ba ang Filipino, wala na ba talagang karapadat na mailagay dayn sa senate at kailangan na nating mag lagay ng magkapatid. And with an unimpressive record at that.
The reality is, naggagamitan lang kayo ni Alan Peter. You wil use him to get the head of Gloria . And Alan Peter is using you to get a senate heat.
Oh well mag kakatotoo naman kaya
CVJ,
Ah kaya pala si Alan Peter almost got suspended in the congress.. Ano yun because he always following the law?
Rego,
Magbobohan? Do my answers make you look stupid? Not my fault.
GMA’s head for a Senate seat for Allan? Fair exchange.
Good luck then to both you! At sana lang kung ano man ang mga personal nyong adhikain wag nag idamay pa ang buong bansa. Alrighty!!!!!
Not to worry, Rego, after the victory of GO (formerly UNO), the country will be in good hands, again.
cvj, dahil meron and mga Merkanong Kamag-anak Inc., okay na din sa tin?? baket naman??
oo nga pala, bakit mo naman klinaro (pun intended) pa na yung ibig mong sabihing recto ay yung senador at hindi kalye? hindi naman bobing yung kausap mo…yan nga ba ang sinasabi kong demeaning eh…
rego, LOL! ang tyaga mo…bilib talaga ako sa yo!
rego,
having brother & sister or father & son in the senate is not dynasty. its called public service or patriotism or love of country or whatever basta its not dynasty because as adel tamano love to say in TV there is no dynasty because there is no enabling law, period.
Manolo,
The administration’s cannibalism has led to the renaming of its two most powerful members of the coalition, Kampi is now KAMPON and Lakas is now LAGAS.
Gusto ko lang ipatunay na ang magka-kamag-anak sa pulitika ay isang pangkaraniwang pangyayari kahit sa Amerika, kaya malayong mangyari na dahil lamang dito ay “pagtatawanan tayo sa buong mundo.” gaya nang sinasabi ni Rego.
Mas-pagtatawanan tayo kung pananatiliin nating nasa poder ang isang pekeng pangulo na huling-huli namang nandaya.
“The Ca t :
blockquote>To win May2007 will need you to be a listener before a talker.
Right you are, UPn.”
If all I do is listen to the likes of you, it won’t make me win the May elections for my side. It will make me lose my mind.
CVJ,
Oh so now your saying that the foundation of your moral crusade is based on “karaniwang pangyayari”. Pero hindi naman karaniwang pangyayari yung magkapatid o mag ama holding the same national position ah. Even in the US walang ganyan. You know very well the impact of this but you just wanted to ignore it in the name of thwarting Mrs Aroyo.
I just can help but laugh on your abhorence to the line ” pareho pareho lang yang mga politiko”.
When are you going to realize that you are just being manipulated by your choiced politicians? Or you already realized it but you just dont want to admit it because its just very hard to swallow your own ego?. And of course you invested so much on your extremely negative feelings towards Mrs Aroyo. Its just need to satified at all cost . Even rationalized it…..
Zapper,
Pwede ba, if political dynasty is really good for the country, then why is Pimentel the father has been working on to paased a a bill about it? Only to field his son later. Then why is Pimentel the son is saying that once he get elected he will also work on the same bill?
Maybe you dont know the implication of this. This will be setting a very bad precedent. Before you know it. we will have a governor and vice governor, a mayor and a vice mayor, who father and son, husband and wife, first degree cousin, in-laws. We already saw a wife or a son running and won election after the father has reached a term limit. Or a provincial board , city and down council full of close relative people
You know zapper you are starting to create another political monster here. And I hope you dont call for people like us again to help you control that “monster” that you help created.
Shaman… on campaign strategy… let me cite a few examples.
..If you are happy with affirming to yourself how wise your anti-GMA position is, then the way you deal with rego and mita is a-OK. I doubt you are winning rego over, but then again, this was not your objective. Just be aware that if you do with your officemates and neighbors what you do with rego, that you probably are not winning any NEW converts to the anti-GMA platform. Screeching is annoying.
But you may want to accomplish more. Your goal may be to put an anti-GMA set of congressmen and senators after May2007. If this is so, then your message has to change some. You can’t be “preaching to the choir” if you want to convince 3 or 4 or a dozen fence-sitters to your anti-GMA position. [Remember, the GMA-side is working hard to put their team into the new congress.] This will require you to first, listen and second, think before you talk, before the 3rd step — to talk.
…Repeat : the focus is not you, the focus is “them”-the voters. So you may want to listen to what the other side cares about. Many of the class-D and -E would really rather talk about the cost of living and jobs as well as health-benefits/social-security. With these folks, talk how Chiz Escudero or Trillanes will help regarding the P125-minimum wage increase (in contrast to GMA, who has already stated her position AGAINST the P125-increase). You do know, don’t you, that a lot of pro-ERAP remain angry that the president they elected got kicked out and is in jail? Then you can point to Chavit Singson’s role in that EdsaDos (but don’t brag about your role (if you were there) or about your friends who may have marched in Edsa-2001).
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Hope this helped. The official election-season has barely started and a lot of effort (pounding the pavements and working with voters) is needed before the new Congress becomes a pro-impeachment Congress.
For a few seconds of humor, go check out professionalheckler’s Valentine’s Day greetings, which included:
:3: To President Gloria, from Garci
On Valentine’s Day:
Saying hello on a piece of paper
is certainly much safer.
I can tell you anything
minus the stutter.
No hesitation,
no fear,
no wiretapping soldier.
CVJ, Shaman and Zapper,
Under the 1987 Constitution, it is stipulated that “[t]he State shall guarantee equal access to opportunities for public service, and prohibit political dynasties as may be defined by law.†(Art. II, Sec. 26).
The Tamanos are a well-entrenched political clan from Mindanao. If this Tamano is not running for any senate seat, good for him. But for him to say there is no political dynasties in this country is the biggest irony of all.
If it’s a matter of definition, pick a better name but in the end, it’s the same thing. If we want to sweep it under the rug, that’s the individual’s choice.
Pangilinan, Legarda, Defensor, Coseteng, Trillanes, Honasan, Angara, Villar, Richard Gomez, Victor Wood, Danton Remoto and others in his party are the ones who are running on their own achievements. Everybody else is, in one way or another, capitalizing on the name their forebears or spouses carried in politics.
never was there an instance where these anti-Gma forces are consistent except for ousting a sitting president or illegally. they are not true opposition in that sense, only anti-gma.
as joker arroyo says:
“I have no discomfort about running with people who want to abolish the Senate because that’s constitutional,â€Â
“But how can I join a group that would like to abolish democracy by overthrowing it? That is what the other side is.
“We have been waiting for the opposition to say one simple thing: That they would not overthrow the government and that they would not engage in destabilization, but what did they do? They even inserted someone [into their Senate lineup] who is a rebel,â€Â
I do not hear anybody laughing. In fact the credit rating of the country was raised by CAlpers, recently. Exchange rate was down from 55 to 48. Budget deficit is reduced.
I hear laughs okay but for those who predicted that we will be like Argentina. I hear laughs for people who up to now can’t move on, that their world has stagnated.
UPn student,
You’re right, it’s not my intention to win over Rego because I won’t. Despite his protestation that he is neutral, his bias for GMA is splashed all over in neon lights.
Thank God that most of my officemates and neighbors share my stand. But, pray tell me, what exactly have I done with Rego? That I have exposed the stupi… okay, the silliness of his arguments? Rego is not even complaining, not that I know of. The laast I heard from him, he wished me good luck. Unless he complained to you privately and asked you to take the cudgels for him. As for Mita, haven’t heard from her.
As for me, the immediate task that trumps everything else is the ouster of the GMA government from power by constitutional means. I have no quarrel with you about the importance of raising the minimum wage (to me the P125/day is even inadequate), creating jobs, providing affordable health care, providing decent housing, but these concerns will never be addressed properly as long as there is an illegitimate government in power that spawns political instability and that is getting more and more despotic. This is the reality that some people just do not understand or refuse to understand.
Believe me, as long as GMA refuses to clear up the issues of legitimacy and corruption leveled against her, political instability won’t go away. And without political stability, the economy will flounder.
“…prohibit political dynasties as may be defined by law.”
Rego, has the law defined “political dynasty”? Adel is right, as long as it has not been defined by law, it doesn’t exist. All we have right now are 85 million opinions about what political dynasty is. how can you accuse somebody of a “crime” that is not in the books yet?
Come on, drop the political dynasty issue. I’m not even accusing Mikey and Iggy (and soon Dato) of it.
james,
Why is it all right to abolish the Senate constitutionally, but wrong to overthrow a corrupt and illegitimate government constitutionally by impeachment?
Joker must even be thankful that Trillanes is now seeking to attain his objectives by legal means. Would he rather have Trillanes remain a rebel outside the law?
I think rego won this round!!!
Im waiting for cvj, shaman etc for a comeback on the next one.
Sino naman ang sunod na kandidato ang mag head to head?
Nice discussion although may kaunting murahan at tawagan na naman …
Chiz Escudero Vs Mike Defensor?
hindi ako botante, which round was that?
Cayetano vs Zubiri
Don’t call it political dynasty. Call it KKK. Kami/Kampi/Kapamilya.
Ca T, the credit rating agencies measure our credit worthiness, i.e. the ability to pay debts. I would value my loan shark’s opinion in some areas but not in others. On the other hand, my colleague from Hongkong, recently asked me why Arroyo is still in power.
The exchange rate, as previously discussed, is more a function of dollar inflows which include record remittances from OFWs. This is happening and will continue to happen regardless of Arroyo’s actions or her status as fake president.
hindi ako botante,
You think so? Bakit?
Cat, you must be describing the GMA camp. You even included her personal political party, Kampi.
Cat, it was a good definition of political dynasty, among the 85 million I was talking of:
Kami – the GMA supporters
Kampi – GMA’s political party
Kapamilya – the Family, of course, led by Fatso
Perfect!
Shaman,
cvj, opening argument, comparing passing laws to fake diplomas. after nun hindi na pumasok sa kukote ko yung iba niyang argument…
Shaman, what was mentioned in the article is the Biofuels Act and the Rental Reforms Act authored by Zubiri, but when you mentioned street renaming nawala na rin vote ko sayo.
Although you started in that argument at a disadvantage because the article highlighted the advantages of Zubiri vs Cayetano. It only mentioned the performance from July 2004. If you dig before that and marami rin palang naipasang batas si Cayetano you will have a better argument. I guess its a trap by Rego and you get caught hook, line ang sinker.
Chiz Escudero vs Mike Defensor, anyone?
hindi ako botante,
I admit I had no time to really research Alan. Good to know na marami rin palang batas siyang naipasa.
Agreed, Rental and Biofuels are very important. But Zubiri’s description was “prolific”. So, I asked what the other laws he passed were all about. I know that more often than not, a congressman files bills of local significance, for the benefit of his local constituency. Renaming streets is one of them.
Again, as I said, the performance of a congressman should not be measured merely by the number of bills he files or co-sponsors. He can also contribute significantly by actively participating in the deliberations of bills other than his own. Legislation is a collective undertaking. Team effort, ika nga.
At any rate, hindi ako botante, I fully respect your judgment.
Chiz Escudero vs Mike Defensor, anyone?
Mike Defensor? may Miriam Defensor-Santiago na.
Are they related?
rego:Escudero had the most number of House bills authored, with 77 measures, 51 of which remain pending, 18 have been substituted by several related bills, while eight have been transmitted to the Senate for approval.
Now I think I going to vote for Chiz Escudero,
hindi ako botante, i wasn’t saying that laws are similar to fake diplomas. in questioning the metric of number of laws passed, i was calling for the need to look at the substance behind those laws (a point which Shaman was better able to explain). A few diplomas from UP is worth more than all the diplomas produced in Recto so looking at the raw numbers is not enough. Using number of laws as the measure on its own may also result in a situation where we have too many laws. A more well thought out metric is required. In any case, thanks for helping to clarify the record on Cayetano and i appreciate your feedback as well.
teka, wala po akong ni-clarify, hindi ako nag research…
what i mean is, if you have research more on this, Cayetano may have passed more laws or may have passed more meaningful laws under their 3 terms in the House.
Good choice, 4322.
hindi ako botante, i stand corrected.
http://www.congress.gov.ph/members/search.php?id=cayetano
ayan, for the sake of everybody, di ko makita yung history niya on previous congress…
Eto naman kay Zubiri:
http://www.congress.gov.ph/members/search.php?id=zubiri
Escudero vs. Defensor na tayo…
Here is one more point that a Strong Party system of government is more effective in passing more effective laws than individual lawmakers, introducing individual bills that may only affect the welfare of the particular parts of the country or specific region or constituent.
In a party system, a bill is usually introduced by the Minister of which the law is pertaining to. The bill could be authored by anyone, an NGO concerned, a member of the governing party, or the party platform itself. No single person can claim credit for such bill, except the Government of the day and they will be responsible for that particular bill. But once the bill passes the house and becomes law, then it is now the law of the country irregardless who introduced and wrote the bill. No regards to the person who proposed the law, it is just their jobs…
Me thinks that Rep. Cayetano is all words, no actions. Same goes for Escudero. I haven’t seen any progress in Sorsogon.
P.S. Don’t visit my blog yet. It was suspended because I didn’t have the money to pay my webhosting bills. hehehe!
“Chiz Escudero vs Mike Defensor, anyone?”
—Why vote gma’s mouthpiece and defender? He (DEFENSOR) can’t even make his statement intelligible…”Yeah, it’s the president talking, but it’s not her voice”. Ano ba yan?! Not bulol but ‘buking’, mouthpiece kasi eh. Og course, I’ll vote for Chiz!!
Cayetano Vs Zubiri?
— Of course, Cayetano! La lang feel ko lang. Anybody associated with Glueria doesn’t deserve a seat. La lang feel ko lang.
He sponsored 12 bills and two resolutions only.
1. AN ACT CONVERTING THE TAGUIG-PATEROS DISTRICT HOSPITAL IN TAGUIG, METRO MANILA INTO A MEMORIAL MEDICAL CENTER TO BE KNOWN AS THE SENATOR RENATO “COMPANERO” L. CAYETANO
2. AN ACT DECLARING THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY OF EVERY YEAR AS “LIVER CANCER AND HEPATITIS-B AWARENESS AND PREVENTION MONTH”
3. AN ACT DECLARING THE MONTH OF AUGUST OF EVERY YEAR AS “NATIONAL BREASTFEEDING AWARENESS MONTH”
4. AN ACT REQUIRING MANDATORY BASIC IMMUNIZATION SERVICES FOR INFANTS INCLUDING HEPATITIS B VACCINATION
5. An Act to amend a presidential decree (pending since 2004)
6. 5 bills setting up and or conversion of existing schools to national high schools
7. 2 resolutions to conduct investigations in aid of legislation.
Naawa naman ako sa kaniya, pinaghirapan niya iguro ito. duh.
Shaman,
Don’t rejoice. Mine is generic. It applies to both sides.
Then we have a lot of patriots in the country? Ganon. (rolleyes). duh.
Calpers is not a credit rating agency. Widen yor perspective.We are not talking about your friendly neighbor loan sharks.
I am talking about investments of pensions and insurance of the organization to make their monies earn for their clients.
Before they ever do investments or loan extensions, they need to have an assurance that their investments are going to be recouped.
If that is not important, what is? Di ba accountant ka rin, you should know these financial analysis bullshits.
Oh by the way, you didn’t have to ask your friend from HK, that is a partial explanation.
The supply comes from the OFW remittances. Correct. That have been going on even with the previous administrations.
I will tell you why, there is so much supply of dollar.
Just a simple explanation that you do not have to get your economics book or ask Shaman who has economics degree.
While OFWs send their remittances, businessmen who have no confidence on the peace and condition of the country continue to salt dollars. Minsan hindi pa nakakaabot sa bansa ang pera, hanggang HK lang.
After the fall of Erap, lots of dollars flew out of the country.
The jitters that the coup attempts brought made the aristocrats hold on to their dollars just in case.
The GMA’s ability to avert crisis after crisis made her earn the confidence of the people watching the economy and the business sector of the country.
And I thought that you are business degree holder?
mike defensor and miriam are related although not THAT closely.
gee, don’t you miss the old miriam? the one before she ran for president and lost? only miriam could think of “fungus face”
zubiri filed 66 national and local bills in the period 2001-07-04 TO 2007-02-16. the scope: education, transportation, the environment, energy, labor, local government, pacuiao, ka erdy, etc.
here’s the link: http://www.congress.gov.ph/bis/qry_show.php
i got moderated…probably for including the link to this information. let me just resend:
zubiri filed 66 national and local bills in the period 2001-07-04 TO 2007-02-16. the scope: education, transportation, the environment, energy, labor, local government, pacuiao, ka erdy, etc.
“The Ca t :
Shaman,
Don’t rejoice. Mine is generic. It applies to both sides.”
It applies more to your side. Kampi, ha, ha, ha. You hit the nail on the head this time. You made my day. I’m rejoicing!
Calper’s rating system operates in a similar enough manner for the comparison to be applicable. The main priority of Calpers is to protect its investments so the variables that it considers is skewed towards this objective. Just like a loan shark, it does not care how it gets it returns. In fact, plus points are given for the ability to keep the dead bodies out of sight (as measured by the stability indicator). I would not blame them for their measures, after all they are in business. However, i won’t use them as an indicator that everything is (triple) a-ok. We have other measures for that.
With regards to the exchange rate appreciation, i agree that the decrease in budget deficit has a favorable effect in the peso. However, in the first place, the budget deficit ballooned under Gloria’s watch so she is solving as problem that she herself created (using taxes collected from E-Vat). I also wouldn’t credit the businessmen and aristocrats for doing something that they ought to have done so in the first place i.e. keep their capital in country. Dollar salting and capital flight is economic sabotage so if they did this in the past, then shame on them. As a reference to any further discussion, here’s a history of our exchange rates since Year 2000:
Year PHP:USD Remarks
2000 44.24 — Erap
2001 50.993 — GMA takes over here
2002 51.604 — still going down
2003 54.203 — still going down
2004 56.04 — all time low
2005 55.086 — E-Vat law passed
2006 51.314 — E-Vat implemented + record remittances
[Source: CIA Factbook]
Here’s further information on OFW remitances (in Billions of US Dollars):
Year USD
2000 6.05 Billion
2001 6.03 Billion
2002 6.89 Billion
2003 7.58 Billion
2004 8.55 Billion
2005 10.70 Billion
2006 12.76 Billion
[Source: BSP]
Cat, tell me what the Calpers credit rating means to the more than 2 million households (not persons) that did not have anything to eat at least once in three months in 2005.
If only GMA can earn the confidence of the hungry poor rather than the analysts’. Unfortunately, she can’t do it by lying, cheating, and stealing. Yes, I’m that obsessive.
Mita,
Zubiri is still hard to sell, despite having that luxurious commercial. Anybody who’s kapit with gma is simply hard to sell.
Come on, drop the political dynasty issue. I’m not even accusing Mikey and Iggy (and soon Dato) of it.—-Shaman
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This is what Im saying! Now, you cannot touch Gloria on that area political dynasty because your camp is very much into it now. I remember when the news broke out that Dato is running for congress. Manolo quickly did an entry cocondeming it and the exact phrased used is “garapalan na”. So parepareho na kayong GARAPAL ngayon! You are just as guilty as Gloria in teh dirty tricks department! So wala na kayong “K” mag malinis pa
at magpaka “holier than thou”. ( Di ba CVJ)
So the best and most practical way to really look out for in this election is the positive performance and teh positive contribution of each candidate the well being of nation.
Rego, has the law defined “political dynasty� Adel is right, as long as it has not been defined by law, it doesn’t exist. All we have right now are 85 million opinions about what political dynasty is. how can you accuse somebody of a “crime†that is not in the books yet?
Rego, has the law defined “political dynastyâ€Â? Adel is right, as long as it has not been defined by law, it doesn’t exist. All we have right now are 85 million opinions about what political dynasty is. how can you accuse somebody of a “crime†that is not in the books yet? – Shaman.
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What the enabling law for political dynasty is to be able to punish the the violator of teh law and and of course clearly define the political dynasty. But the absence of such will never exempt has from severe and negative consequences of violating the principles of “equal opportunity for all” as stated in the consitution.
When the problem is the absence of enabling law/s, will it do good for the nation make the problem even worst by electing a brother and sister, a father and son , an aunt and nephew in the senate?
No maam! The solution for the absence of an enabling law is to push for the creation of such laws! Bayan Muna and Sen. Pimentel has already made a draft for the creation of such. (I wonder what doe sthat make of Senator Pimentel)….
“Believe me, as long as GMA refuses to clear up the issues of legitimacy and corruption leveled against her, political instability won’t go away. And without political stability, the economy will flounder. “—Shamman.
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The legitimacy issue will never ever be closed for as long as the issue will fully benifit one group or sector of the country. . The oppsition dont want the issue closed and would always want the issue debated over and over again because there is so much to gain from it. ( Obviosu na obvious, Di ba CVJ?)
rego, i don’t understand the leap from saying koko et al remove the ability to oppose dato et al, from saying “you’re the same in the dirty tricks” department. there is no dirty trick in running koko who is running for a national position, while dato is cartpetbagging his way to bicol.
neither does it make sense to say the opposition doesn’t want the issue of legitimacy closed. people power would have closed it. a succesful impeachment would have closed it.
Manolo,
Koko’s capitalizing on the name recall of his father is just as dirty. he cannot even win a local position when the voters are his very own consituuents that know him very well. and he attempted twice at that.
And the dirtiest of it all is when his father and the opposition abandon their prosposed law on political dynasty just to acomodate him.
We all know that senate is just a very narrow and limited representation of the people in the country. And now we are allowing some families to have two representative in that body. And how do we control that it wil just be up to two reps?
The opposition are just so noisy about any action of Gloria that they perceived is a violation of the constitution. But they are grossly violating the consitution as well.
Then CVJ and his ilk hated us so much for not supporting the cause of opposition? eh parepareho lang naman yang mga politiko natin eh!!!!
Cat, tell me what the Calpers credit rating means to the more than 2 million households (not persons) that did not have anything to eat at least once in three months in 2005.
And I thought that you as VP of a company and an economics degree holder, we will be speaking in the same language.
Who would not? They are not charitable institutions. They are handling the pension funds of the small workers of California.
So what other measures do you like?
It’s time to eat dark chocolate.
re the economy. if one area is showing improvement, say the peso rate, do we necessarily have to follow that with a big “HOWEVER” to prove that GMA is not doing a good job?
I’m just wondering why that’s all. it would make opposition look better, more rational and more honest if we can simply give credit where credit is due.
even chiz escudero has already come out in the open and said the economy is getting better “HOWEVER”…
Ed Angara, who is running in the admin party, was honest enough to say the country was growing at a faster rate during Ramos’ time…if i were in the opposition, i’d capitalize on that statement and come up with a really good follow-up…
“What the enabling law for political dynasty is to be able to punish the the violator of teh law and and of course clearly define the political dynasty. But the absence of such will never exempt has from severe and negative consequences of violating the principles of “equal opportunity for all†as stated in the consitution.” – rego
There is no law yet to violate, so there no violators in the legal sense.
All we have is a constitutional statement of principle against “political dynasty”. The question of what “political dynasty” means has been left to Congress to define. Right now, we don’t know what it legally means. As I’ve said, all we have are our own personal opinions. I’m not even sure if a sibling, or a son, of a serving senator running for the same position would fall under the definition of “political dynasty”. It is premature to raise the issue.
What I know for sure is that the candidacy of Alan Peter Cayetano does not deprive Rego, or anybody else, of the “equal opportunity” to run for senator. What I know for sure is that the election of Alan Peter Cayetano, and Koko Pimentel for that matter, to the Senate will have a severely positive consequences for the country.
Cat, so what if the small workers of California find investing in the Philippines profitable? It’s not the kind of “economics” that’s relevant to me. What is important to me is the kind of “economics” that puts food on the table of millions of Filipinos, not the one that stuffs more dollars into the pockets of small workers in California.
I’m not even sure if a sibling, or a son, of a serving senator running for the same position would fall under the definition of “political dynastyâ€Â. -shaman
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If you don’t know what consitute a political dynasty, then maybe you should do research first before you participate on this debate.
Go and check the definition of it. Its just a click away. And if want something specific to the Phil setting go and check the drafts that were prepared by Sen Pimentel and Bayan Muna.
Don’t ever rely on Erap, becuase the started it all. Even to Adel Tamano because everybody knows that he is the spokeman of GO Team ( ano ba yan? sound very much like power hungry hehehe ) He has no choice but to defend the stand of opposition.
Wag nang pa clueless pwede ba?. It doesn’t help you at all!
If we want to be proactive, the issue should be raised now when the problem is just starting. Because once the senate or congress is already populated by political dynasty, then how can you expect that a law will ever be passed?
You dont want this issue to be raised now because you know that your camp is very much into it. You will not gain any “pogi” points from it. Di ba???
Aminin!!!!!
rego brings up a good point, which is to refer to draft legislation. a good example is the bill proposed by miriam defensor santiago:
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:TaoOQhBaiKQJ:www.senate.gov.ph/13th_congress/bills/sbn-1904.pdf+senate+bill+8+anti+political+dynasty+act&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&client=firefox-a
SECTION 3. Definition ofTerms. -The following terms, as used in this Act, shall mean:
(1)
“Political Dynastyâ€Â
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shall exist when a person who is the spouse of an incumbent elective official or relative within the second civil degree of consanguinity or affinity of an incumbent elective official holds or runs for an elective office simultaneously with the incumbent elective official within the same province or occupies the same office immediately after the term of office of the incumbent elective official. It shall also be deemed to exist where two
(2) or more persons who are spouses or are related within the second civil degree of consanguinity or affinity run simultaneously for elective public office within the same province, even if neither is so related to an incumbent elective official.
(2)
“Spouseâ€Â
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shall refer to the legal and common-law wife or husband of the incumbent elective official.
3.
“Second Civil Degree of Consanguinity or Affinityâ€Â
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shall refer to the relatives of a person who may be the latter’s brother or sister, whether of full or half-blood, direct ascendant or direct descendant, whether legitimate, illegitimate or adopted, including their spouses.
4.
“Running for an Elective Officeâ€Â
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shall be deemed to commence upon the filing of the certificate of candidacy by a candidate with the Commissions on Elections.
5.
“Holding an Elective Officeâ€Â
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shall be deemed to commence from the moment the public official takes his oath of office.
6. “COMELECâ€Â
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shall refer to the Commission on Elections.
The prohibition in this bill seems to affect provincial and not national, positions. I can’t find the Pimentel or Flavier bills, it would be good to post the different definitions.
Cat, so what if the small workers of California find investing in the Philippines profitable? It’s not the kind of “economics†that’s relevant to me. What is important to me is the kind of “economics†that puts food on the table of millions of Filipinos, not the one that stuffs more dollars into the pockets of small workers in California.- Shaman.
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Ano ba yan? Pabobo ng pabobo ang argumento mo!
You dont have to be a Economics students or rocket scientist to understand the basic impact of foreign investments. Everybody knows that foreign investments means money to fuel the economy. It creates jobs and therefore put food on the table.
Pustahan tayo pag naging presidente ang isa sa mga manok mo sa opposition you will be high praises to what ever investments that will come to the Phils. And will even proudly shout to the whole world that “your president is doing well for the economic welfare your kababayan….At mas exagerrated pa!
Aminin!!!!
The prohibition in this bill seems to affect provincial and not national, positions. I can’t find the Pimentel or Flavier bills, it would be good to post the different definitions. – MLQ3
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I just hope you are not issuing this opinion becuase there is no relative of Gloria running for senate….=)
“The prohibition in this bill seems to affect provincial and not national, positions. I can’t find the Pimentel or Flavier bills, it would be good to post the different definitions. ” – MLQ3
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I just hope you are not expresing this opinion because there is no Gloria relatives running for senator….:)
the only reason there isn’t, rego, is that the surveys showed it was pointless for mikee to run for senator. if he had a chance of winning he would have -and the way they kept floating his name indicates he wanted to.
miriam’s bill suggests that even the administration views the dynasty question from the perspective that it’s something that has a bad effect locally.
it’s on the local level where a dynasty can unfairly manage things for itself not only through name recall, but through intimidation, bribery, etc. on a national level, that’s very difficult to do.
your objections to say, koko, is that he has an unfair advantage because of his father’s name. but if name is the only advantage, then you would have to make it illegal to let an actor, entertainer, journalist, doctor, etc. run on that basis alone. but none of these, from the son of a senator to an actor entering politics for the first time, has the corrosive claim to an unfair advantage a dynasty member has on the local level.
Direct foreign investments that go into either expansion of existing production facilities or creation of new ones certainly produce jobs. No questions about it. Calpers’ investments are in capital and money markets. These are the kinds of investments that fly out of the country at the slighest sign of trouble.
well, manolo, gloria pick Kiram who is a nobody in the surveys… if Gloria is realy that garapal as Pimentel the father. mikee should be running by now. after all mikee has some political experience than koko…
political dynasty is just as detrimental in the national level because that is where the policies of the country is coming from. No matter how you put it. it just violate the principles of equal opportunity for all as stated in the consituition.
regarding name recall, if we are allowing koko to capitalized on the popularity of his father. then there no point on criticizing the TEAM UNITY for fielding actors in their slate. Again babalik na naman tayo sa “pare pareho lang”.
and if creating a law that will prevent anyone from running based on name recall alone will make these country more progressive, why not? What is the chance of having this kind of law when we have a lot in the senator that were elected through this trick. And now we are also electing political dynasty in the senate. So ano ang chance for us to have an anti political dynasty law? Saan na papunta ang bansa kung gaganyan ganyan tayo?
“Direct foreign investments that go into either expansion of existing production facilities or creation of new ones certainly produce jobs. No questions about it. Calpers’ investments are in capital and money markets. These are the kinds of investments that fly out of the country at the slighest sign of trouble. ” – Shaman.
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So as long as they are IN the country they can be used to make the economy going, right? Calpers is coming not going away, so that is positive and its a good news.
Oh I know, why dont we make investments like Calpers go away. Para mapahiya uli si Gloria….
O kaya ipasara na rin natin ang PSE hindi naman pala nakakatulong and capital at money markets eh….
“re the economy. if one area is showing improvement, say the peso rate, do we necessarily have to follow that with a big “HOWEVER†to prove that GMA is not doing a good job?I’m just wondering why that’s all. it would make opposition look better, more rational and more honest if we can simply give credit where credit is due.” – mita
The strength of the peso vis-a-vis the US dollar is the consequence of the billions of dollars pouring into the country from OFWs. It is not the result of something that Gloria did. She just happens to be there, period. Where’s the credit?
Even the strength of the peso is not all that good. It has adversely affected exporters (less pesos for their dollars) and producers for the domestic market (greater competition from cheaper imported goods), and even reduced the income of the OFWs’ dependents.
But when the peso is weaker and is hurting the imports kasalanan ni Gloria….
Oh common!
I doubt if you are really economics degree holder.
RE ECONOMY:
Tell me how this happened: MBC BULLISH ON 2007 PROSPECTS.
That is the same Makati Business Club that was pushing for GMA’s ouster over a year ago. Business is business, when you’re making money, you support the one in power. When things are down, you support the opposition.
Where is all the opposition from the business sector today? They managed to pre-pay some of the debts incurred during the 97 Asian crisis with the peso’s strengthening and are happy as clams to see their profit margin go up…and so – they’re quiet.
http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/0223&242007/headlines04.html
“But when the peso is weaker and is hurting the imports kasalanan ni Gloria….
Oh common!” – rego
I didn’t say that. All I said is that the strengthening of the peso is not Gloria’s achievement so she cannot claim credit for it.
You just dont want to see that way that s why.
walang himala muntik na kahapon!!!!!!!!!!!
magbigay nga kayo tingkol sa republic act 9354 pleeeeeeeeeeeees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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