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		<title>By: justice league</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/02/12/team-bansot/comment-page-4/#comment-428651</link>
		<dc:creator>justice league</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2007 12:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JM,

Well you probably read the reply at Ellen Tordesillas blog but I&#039;ll copy-post it here anyway.

As to your statement that joker arroyo initiated a 3-year investigation on lacson even though the DOJ under Nani perez and the NBI under reynaldo wycoco were doing itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s own investigations similar to his; sometime in August 2003, the results of those investigations were to recommend to the DOJ to Ã¢â‚¬Å“pursueÃ¢â‚¬Â their investigation and recommend to the Office of the Ombudsman that it Ã¢â‚¬Å“conductÃ¢â‚¬Â its own probe and file the appropriate charges if evidence warrants it.

With regards to the IMPSA case; Joker stated that:
Ã¢â‚¬Å“Ã¢â‚¬Â¢ It is a waste of time and taxpayers money as Congress is bound not to finish the probe because of the coming elections
Ã¢â‚¬Â¢ The Office of the Ombudsman has the jurisdiction of the case
Ã¢â‚¬Â¢ The findings might be in conflict with that of the OmbudsmanÃ¢â‚¬Â

Based on the article linked; the Ombudsman has already issued itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s recommendations. Ergo, itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s even leaps and bounds already on such an investigation.

By your statement, it took years for the Senate to finish their probe. But letÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s say that the Senate miraculously finished their own probe on the matter within the available months; their findings will also be sent to the Ombudsman(which is mandated to serve as the lead agency in the total war on graft and corruption) that has already issued their own recommendations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JM,</p>
<p>Well you probably read the reply at Ellen Tordesillas blog but I&#8217;ll copy-post it here anyway.</p>
<p>As to your statement that joker arroyo initiated a 3-year investigation on lacson even though the DOJ under Nani perez and the NBI under reynaldo wycoco were doing itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s own investigations similar to his; sometime in August 2003, the results of those investigations were to recommend to the DOJ to Ã¢â‚¬Å“pursueÃ¢â‚¬Â their investigation and recommend to the Office of the Ombudsman that it Ã¢â‚¬Å“conductÃ¢â‚¬Â its own probe and file the appropriate charges if evidence warrants it.</p>
<p>With regards to the IMPSA case; Joker stated that:<br />
Ã¢â‚¬Å“Ã¢â‚¬Â¢ It is a waste of time and taxpayers money as Congress is bound not to finish the probe because of the coming elections<br />
Ã¢â‚¬Â¢ The Office of the Ombudsman has the jurisdiction of the case<br />
Ã¢â‚¬Â¢ The findings might be in conflict with that of the OmbudsmanÃ¢â‚¬Â</p>
<p>Based on the article linked; the Ombudsman has already issued itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s recommendations. Ergo, itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s even leaps and bounds already on such an investigation.</p>
<p>By your statement, it took years for the Senate to finish their probe. But letÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s say that the Senate miraculously finished their own probe on the matter within the available months; their findings will also be sent to the Ombudsman(which is mandated to serve as the lead agency in the total war on graft and corruption) that has already issued their own recommendations.</p>
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		<title>By: UPn student</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/02/12/team-bansot/comment-page-3/#comment-428495</link>
		<dc:creator>UPn student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 14:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fill in two blanks:
(1)  the election of  __________________ to the Senate will result within 2 years or less of the court systems and the justice department to be more independent of the executive branch.

(2) ___________________ has the leadership skills that will result in improved human rights (with stronger oversight of the PNP and the military).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fill in two blanks:<br />
(1)  the election of  __________________ to the Senate will result within 2 years or less of the court systems and the justice department to be more independent of the executive branch.</p>
<p>(2) ___________________ has the leadership skills that will result in improved human rights (with stronger oversight of the PNP and the military).</p>
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		<title>By: john marzan</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/02/12/team-bansot/comment-page-3/#comment-428395</link>
		<dc:creator>john marzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is classic stuff.

www.politicaljunkie.blogspot.com/2007/02/joker-arroyo-asks-public-to-take.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is classic stuff.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.politicaljunkie.blogspot.com/2007/02/joker-arroyo-asks-public-to-take.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.politicaljunkie.blogspot.com/2007/02/joker-arroyo-asks-public-to-take.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: john marzan</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/02/12/team-bansot/comment-page-3/#comment-428388</link>
		<dc:creator>john marzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 12:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Definitely will vote for at least 1 from the admin and that would be Joker. Maybe IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d decide to vote more from the admin but majority will come from the opposition. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

joker&#039;s recent statements and his taking a more pro-active role in defending the admin while attacking her critics makes it easier for me not to have to vote for him.

And i wanted him to run with the opposition at the very beginning.

www.politicaljunkie.blogspot.com/2007/01/who-should-run-against-arroyos-12-and.html

the admin is smart to make joker the de facto spokesperson for the arroyo&#039;s senators, because he&#039;s articulate and has an &quot;independent&quot; reputation. he takes the heat and deflects it from maam arroyo.

but him now being an active and very vocal defender and advocate of arroyo makes it easier for me to not vote for him.

his &quot;independence&quot; (he kept his silence on the gloriagate issue) from the arroyo admin only started when the hello garci scandal blew up. from 2001- mid 2005, joker was one of GMA and pidal&#039;s most dedicated defender in the senate (he being chair of the blue ribbon committee.)

now he&#039;s back to his usual role.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>Definitely will vote for at least 1 from the admin and that would be Joker. Maybe IÃ¢â‚¬â„¢d decide to vote more from the admin but majority will come from the opposition. </i></p></blockquote>
<p>joker&#8217;s recent statements and his taking a more pro-active role in defending the admin while attacking her critics makes it easier for me not to have to vote for him.</p>
<p>And i wanted him to run with the opposition at the very beginning.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.politicaljunkie.blogspot.com/2007/01/who-should-run-against-arroyos-12-and.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.politicaljunkie.blogspot.com/2007/01/who-should-run-against-arroyos-12-and.html</a></p>
<p>the admin is smart to make joker the de facto spokesperson for the arroyo&#8217;s senators, because he&#8217;s articulate and has an &#8220;independent&#8221; reputation. he takes the heat and deflects it from maam arroyo.</p>
<p>but him now being an active and very vocal defender and advocate of arroyo makes it easier for me to not vote for him.</p>
<p>his &#8220;independence&#8221; (he kept his silence on the gloriagate issue) from the arroyo admin only started when the hello garci scandal blew up. from 2001- mid 2005, joker was one of GMA and pidal&#8217;s most dedicated defender in the senate (he being chair of the blue ribbon committee.)</p>
<p>now he&#8217;s back to his usual role.</p>
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		<title>By: john marzan</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/02/12/team-bansot/comment-page-3/#comment-428207</link>
		<dc:creator>john marzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;JM, 

Then the more you should want it to be done as theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ll be too busy protecting him.

People who have too much on their minds make more mistakes.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

yes, i want to see the real pidal (big mike) and his fall guy brother be punished. but i don&#039;t expect to see them to get punished until arroyo is first removed from her office, to end her corrupting influence on the DOJ, COMELEC, Congress etc.

but i do expect the pidal issue to be raised during the election campaign.

for what it&#039;s worth, lacson did try to revive the IMPSA scam investigation

www.malaya.com.ph/jan12/news4.htm

dahil mukhang lutong makaw ang ginagawa ng ombudsman &lt;b&gt;by not accusing nani perez of plunder&lt;/b&gt; (even though lampas 50 mil ang ibinulsa niya) at limited lang kay nani ang imbestigation (even though there were other bribe recipients from higher up were involved).
 
14 mil ang bribe sa IMPSA, at 2 million lang ang napunta kay Nani. so where did the rest of the IMPSA money go? inamin dati ni mark jimenez na napunta sa &quot;malacanang residents&quot; yung iba, and some went &quot;to the boys&quot; (whatever that means). and half of it (7 mil) ibinulsa ni &quot;corporate genius&quot;.

but blue ribbon chair joker thumbed down the lacson investigation because it was a &quot;waste of time&quot; and money and because the obmudsman already has jurisdiction on the case.

www.gmanews.tv/story/26646/Joker-bucks-probe-on-Impsa-payoff-scandal

uh... but didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t joker arroyo initiate a 3-year investigation on corpus expose on lacsonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Ã¢â‚¬Å“hiddenÃ¢â‚¬Â billions and narcopolitics, per arroyo, corpus and rosebudÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s request, even though the DOJ under Nani perez and the NBI under reynaldo wycoco were doing itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s own investigations similar to jokers?

but anyway, i believe the arroyo admin wanted the impsa issue to be off the table during the midterm election, kaya she tasked the ombudsgirl (after 6 frickin long years) to conduct an open investigation on nani perez. but it is done in a way to limit the scope of the damage against nani (hindi plunder ang kaso niya), and the others involved in the 14 mil IMPSA bribery scam. and the opposition can&#039;t use the nani impsa issue because the arroyo admin can say na the nani &quot;extortion case&quot; (not IMPSA, mind you) is  &quot;currently under investigation&quot; by the ombudsman (six years after the IMPSA scam was revealed). we don&#039;t know when her investigation will end, but probably after the elections. and judging from ermita and defensor&#039;s statements re nani perez and defending him, i&#039;m pessimistic about the outcome of the so called investigation.

this is the same USEC of justice merceditas gutierrez who refused to cooperate with the swiss authorities when they asked for help noon 2003. sa matagal nang alam ni merceditas ito.

www.sunstar.com.ph/static/man/2003/09/05/news/serge.hits.doj.dfa.non.cooperation.in.swiss.probe.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>JM, </p>
<p>Then the more you should want it to be done as theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ll be too busy protecting him.</p>
<p>People who have too much on their minds make more mistakes.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>yes, i want to see the real pidal (big mike) and his fall guy brother be punished. but i don&#8217;t expect to see them to get punished until arroyo is first removed from her office, to end her corrupting influence on the DOJ, COMELEC, Congress etc.</p>
<p>but i do expect the pidal issue to be raised during the election campaign.</p>
<p>for what it&#8217;s worth, lacson did try to revive the IMPSA scam investigation</p>
<p><a href="http://www.malaya.com.ph/jan12/news4.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.malaya.com.ph/jan12/news4.htm</a></p>
<p>dahil mukhang lutong makaw ang ginagawa ng ombudsman <b>by not accusing nani perez of plunder</b> (even though lampas 50 mil ang ibinulsa niya) at limited lang kay nani ang imbestigation (even though there were other bribe recipients from higher up were involved).</p>
<p>14 mil ang bribe sa IMPSA, at 2 million lang ang napunta kay Nani. so where did the rest of the IMPSA money go? inamin dati ni mark jimenez na napunta sa &#8220;malacanang residents&#8221; yung iba, and some went &#8220;to the boys&#8221; (whatever that means). and half of it (7 mil) ibinulsa ni &#8220;corporate genius&#8221;.</p>
<p>but blue ribbon chair joker thumbed down the lacson investigation because it was a &#8220;waste of time&#8221; and money and because the obmudsman already has jurisdiction on the case.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gmanews.tv/story/26646/Joker-bucks-probe-on-Impsa-payoff-scandal" rel="nofollow">http://www.gmanews.tv/story/26646/Joker-bucks-probe-on-Impsa-payoff-scandal</a></p>
<p>uh&#8230; but didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t joker arroyo initiate a 3-year investigation on corpus expose on lacsonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Ã¢â‚¬Å“hiddenÃ¢â‚¬Â billions and narcopolitics, per arroyo, corpus and rosebudÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s request, even though the DOJ under Nani perez and the NBI under reynaldo wycoco were doing itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s own investigations similar to jokers?</p>
<p>but anyway, i believe the arroyo admin wanted the impsa issue to be off the table during the midterm election, kaya she tasked the ombudsgirl (after 6 frickin long years) to conduct an open investigation on nani perez. but it is done in a way to limit the scope of the damage against nani (hindi plunder ang kaso niya), and the others involved in the 14 mil IMPSA bribery scam. and the opposition can&#8217;t use the nani impsa issue because the arroyo admin can say na the nani &#8220;extortion case&#8221; (not IMPSA, mind you) is  &#8220;currently under investigation&#8221; by the ombudsman (six years after the IMPSA scam was revealed). we don&#8217;t know when her investigation will end, but probably after the elections. and judging from ermita and defensor&#8217;s statements re nani perez and defending him, i&#8217;m pessimistic about the outcome of the so called investigation.</p>
<p>this is the same USEC of justice merceditas gutierrez who refused to cooperate with the swiss authorities when they asked for help noon 2003. sa matagal nang alam ni merceditas ito.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/man/2003/09/05/news/serge.hits.doj.dfa.non.cooperation.in.swiss.probe.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/man/2003/09/05/news/serge.hits.doj.dfa.non.cooperation.in.swiss.probe.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: justice league</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/02/12/team-bansot/comment-page-3/#comment-428027</link>
		<dc:creator>justice league</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 08:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JM, 

Then the more you should want it to be done as they&#039;ll be too busy protecting him.

People who have too much on their minds make more mistakes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JM, </p>
<p>Then the more you should want it to be done as they&#8217;ll be too busy protecting him.</p>
<p>People who have too much on their minds make more mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: john marzan</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/02/12/team-bansot/comment-page-3/#comment-428024</link>
		<dc:creator>john marzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 08:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Pigs donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t have to fly but Iggy can be roasted and squeezed enough to squeal when he became a public figure. &lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

i doubt it. kung si garci nga ay hindi maparusahan, si iggy pa. as long as maam arroyo and big mike are still in power, protektado yung mga yan.

you need to remove the corrupting influency of arroyo sa DOJ, military, COMELEC etc., or else walang mangyayari. puro stonewalling at coverups lang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>Pigs donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t have to fly but Iggy can be roasted and squeezed enough to squeal when he became a public figure. </i></p></blockquote>
<p>i doubt it. kung si garci nga ay hindi maparusahan, si iggy pa. as long as maam arroyo and big mike are still in power, protektado yung mga yan.</p>
<p>you need to remove the corrupting influency of arroyo sa DOJ, military, COMELEC etc., or else walang mangyayari. puro stonewalling at coverups lang.</p>
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		<title>By: justice league</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/02/12/team-bansot/comment-page-3/#comment-428011</link>
		<dc:creator>justice league</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 07:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JM,

Pigs don&#039;t have to fly but Iggy can be roasted and squeezed enough to squeal when he became a public figure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JM,</p>
<p>Pigs don&#8217;t have to fly but Iggy can be roasted and squeezed enough to squeal when he became a public figure.</p>
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		<title>By: Mita</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/02/12/team-bansot/comment-page-3/#comment-427362</link>
		<dc:creator>Mita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 15:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>justice league...understood naman na yon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>justice league&#8230;understood naman na yon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: john marzan</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/02/12/team-bansot/comment-page-3/#comment-427330</link>
		<dc:creator>john marzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;JM,

news.balita.ph

Ã¢â‚¬Å“21- Senate of two minds on privacy rights of witnessÃ¢â‚¬Â

Ã¢â‚¬Å“However, in the resolution issued by the blue ribbon committee, Senator Arroyo said Ignacio could invoke his right to privacy because the money in the Jose Pidal account had yet to be proven public in nature.Ã¢â‚¬Â

Ã¢â‚¬Å“Those who signed were senators Joker Arroyo, Robert Barbers, Ramon Revilla, Robert Jaworski, Ramon Magsaysay, Ralph Recto, Francis Pangilinan, Manuel Villar, Noli de Castro, and Flavier.Ã¢â‚¬Â

Iggy was still then a private person with no government position. (Though I wouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t necessarily agree on all privacy issues regarding private citizens)&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

if iggy arroyo is the real pidal, then pigs fly too.

www.politicaljunkie.blogspot.com/2007/01/jose-pidal-and-morgan-stanley.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>JM,</p>
<p>news.balita.ph</p>
<p>Ã¢â‚¬Å“21- Senate of two minds on privacy rights of witnessÃ¢â‚¬Â</p>
<p>Ã¢â‚¬Å“However, in the resolution issued by the blue ribbon committee, Senator Arroyo said Ignacio could invoke his right to privacy because the money in the Jose Pidal account had yet to be proven public in nature.Ã¢â‚¬Â</p>
<p>Ã¢â‚¬Å“Those who signed were senators Joker Arroyo, Robert Barbers, Ramon Revilla, Robert Jaworski, Ramon Magsaysay, Ralph Recto, Francis Pangilinan, Manuel Villar, Noli de Castro, and Flavier.Ã¢â‚¬Â</p>
<p>Iggy was still then a private person with no government position. (Though I wouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t necessarily agree on all privacy issues regarding private citizens)</i></p></blockquote>
<p>if iggy arroyo is the real pidal, then pigs fly too.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.politicaljunkie.blogspot.com/2007/01/jose-pidal-and-morgan-stanley.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.politicaljunkie.blogspot.com/2007/01/jose-pidal-and-morgan-stanley.html</a></p>
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