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		<title>By: polaris sportsman</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/01/23/a-veterans-association/comment-page-1/#comment-510473</link>
		<dc:creator>polaris sportsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 11:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice site. Thanks!!!</description>
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		<title>By: Rexted</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/01/23/a-veterans-association/comment-page-1/#comment-419907</link>
		<dc:creator>Rexted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link.. even it is little bit late reply..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link.. even it is little bit late reply..</p>
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		<title>By: Jeg</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/01/23/a-veterans-association/comment-page-1/#comment-403267</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 02:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem I have with basang panaginip&#039;s reasoning is he is basing his atheism on the behavior of believers who, being people, can be just as screwed up as non-believers. It&#039;s like losing faith in the rule of law just because some people choose to break it with impunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem I have with basang panaginip&#8217;s reasoning is he is basing his atheism on the behavior of believers who, being people, can be just as screwed up as non-believers. It&#8217;s like losing faith in the rule of law just because some people choose to break it with impunity.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicholas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicholas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 01:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to side with Alex on this one... this is definitely a semblance of a ragtag band... 

This is just another weak attempt to form something out of nothing, an entity with a hollow core..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to side with Alex on this one&#8230; this is definitely a semblance of a ragtag band&#8230; </p>
<p>This is just another weak attempt to form something out of nothing, an entity with a hollow core..</p>
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		<title>By: justice league</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/01/23/a-veterans-association/comment-page-1/#comment-402528</link>
		<dc:creator>justice league</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 17:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cvj,

I agree. But I don&#039;t expect Basang Panaginip to be able to answer that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cvj,</p>
<p>I agree. But I don&#8217;t expect Basang Panaginip to be able to answer that way.</p>
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		<title>By: cvj</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/01/23/a-veterans-association/comment-page-1/#comment-402401</link>
		<dc:creator>cvj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 15:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If the british boys and Bryanboy are right, then why should SimontonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s co-workers not be right also?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

justice league, i think  it depends on historical and social context i.e., whether the object of an insult is part of a dominant or a dominated group.  the power relations between men/women, hetero/homo, religious/atheist, christian/muslim, white/black can be described as that between the oppressor and the oppressed.   homosexuals, muslims and blacks have, as a group, been on the receiving end of oppression therefore to insult them on that basis is wrong.  heteros, christians and whites, on the other hand, are part of the ruling establishment so they have to be more careful with what they say.  That explains the lack of symmetry.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Pagalingan na lang dapat ng pangiinsulto!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;re right, execution matters. That would explain Borat the movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If the british boys and Bryanboy are right, then why should SimontonÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s co-workers not be right also?</p></blockquote>
<p>justice league, i think  it depends on historical and social context i.e., whether the object of an insult is part of a dominant or a dominated group.  the power relations between men/women, hetero/homo, religious/atheist, christian/muslim, white/black can be described as that between the oppressor and the oppressed.   homosexuals, muslims and blacks have, as a group, been on the receiving end of oppression therefore to insult them on that basis is wrong.  heteros, christians and whites, on the other hand, are part of the ruling establishment so they have to be more careful with what they say.  That explains the lack of symmetry.</p>
<blockquote><p>Pagalingan na lang dapat ng pangiinsulto!</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re right, execution matters. That would explain Borat the movie.</p>
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		<title>By: justice league</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/01/23/a-veterans-association/comment-page-1/#comment-402282</link>
		<dc:creator>justice league</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 14:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the &quot;Jesus is Our Fucking Homeboy&quot; in the atheist&#039;s blog.

The blog linked to other bloggers as well.

Frequently seen is the defense that it is free speech, freedom of expression and the right to it.

Left in the background is whether it was &quot;right&quot; or correct.

People who see that it was right to do so should read the case of Dwayne SIMONTON in the case of Simonton v. Runyon, 232 F.3d 33 (2nd Cir. 2000)

He was a homosexual and he endured hardships for it in his workplace. Hardships of insults and discrimination for which he would be denied justice.

Most of the people on the side of the Bryanboy issue are said to be liberals.

But such people should also claim that it is but only &quot;right&quot; that Dwayne Simonton be denied justice and that a law that would enable people like Simonton to receive justice be forever prevented from seeing the light of day.

Laws against discrimination should never be enacted or at least be dismantled if already inplace if such should be the case.

For to be truly liberal about it; no rules should be enforced to prevent what insults or discrimination we want to cast on anyone.

If the british boys and Bryanboy are right, then why should Simonton&#039;s co-workers not be right also?

Pagalingan na lang dapat ng pangiinsulto!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the &#8220;Jesus is Our Fucking Homeboy&#8221; in the atheist&#8217;s blog.</p>
<p>The blog linked to other bloggers as well.</p>
<p>Frequently seen is the defense that it is free speech, freedom of expression and the right to it.</p>
<p>Left in the background is whether it was &#8220;right&#8221; or correct.</p>
<p>People who see that it was right to do so should read the case of Dwayne SIMONTON in the case of Simonton v. Runyon, 232 F.3d 33 (2nd Cir. 2000)</p>
<p>He was a homosexual and he endured hardships for it in his workplace. Hardships of insults and discrimination for which he would be denied justice.</p>
<p>Most of the people on the side of the Bryanboy issue are said to be liberals.</p>
<p>But such people should also claim that it is but only &#8220;right&#8221; that Dwayne Simonton be denied justice and that a law that would enable people like Simonton to receive justice be forever prevented from seeing the light of day.</p>
<p>Laws against discrimination should never be enacted or at least be dismantled if already inplace if such should be the case.</p>
<p>For to be truly liberal about it; no rules should be enforced to prevent what insults or discrimination we want to cast on anyone.</p>
<p>If the british boys and Bryanboy are right, then why should Simonton&#8217;s co-workers not be right also?</p>
<p>Pagalingan na lang dapat ng pangiinsulto!</p>
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		<title>By: cvj</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/01/23/a-veterans-association/comment-page-1/#comment-402250</link>
		<dc:creator>cvj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 13:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UPn Student, you got it right the first time.  Those traits are commonly found among the middle class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPn Student, you got it right the first time.  Those traits are commonly found among the middle class.</p>
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		<title>By: UPn student</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/01/23/a-veterans-association/comment-page-1/#comment-402134</link>
		<dc:creator>UPn student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cvj...  your syntax confused me. what you wrote is that the middle-class person is narcissistic and supercilious.  What you seemed to mean to say is that a person who is narcissistic and supercilious is bourgeois.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cvj&#8230;  your syntax confused me. what you wrote is that the middle-class person is narcissistic and supercilious.  What you seemed to mean to say is that a person who is narcissistic and supercilious is bourgeois.</p>
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		<title>By: baycas</title>
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		<dc:creator>baycas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i consider the senate race is &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;all about arroyo&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; and i would like to narrow the choices into TWOÃ¢â‚¬Â¦whether the candidates are:

a. fors (&lt;i&gt;o-oo kay arroyo&lt;/i&gt;), or
b. againsts (&lt;i&gt;a-ayoko kay arroyo&lt;/i&gt;).

however, a

c. none-of-the-above force

is in the offing and, as reports would say, endorsements from either Ã¢â‚¬Å“the forsÃ¢â‚¬Â or Ã¢â‚¬Å“the againstsÃ¢â‚¬Â are welcome to them.  now, even a

d. moral force

could sproutÃ¢â‚¬Â¦but thatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s according to only one oppositionist in the person of tatadÃ¢â‚¬Â¦(who, incidentally, i find to be a loathsome &lt;i&gt;Eddie&lt;/i&gt;* in the opposition.)

well, i may not be happy that this race will not just be a one-on-one affair but i just hope that thereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ll be no overlapping endorsements.  i am rooting for candidates who are Ã¢â‚¬Å“arroyo-AGAINSTSÃ¢â‚¬ÂÃ¢â‚¬Â¦regardless of their ticket.  any candidate from Ã¢â‚¬Å“the forsÃ¢â‚¬Â and those whose convictions are suspect (like angara and recto) i would certainly eliminate!

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*&lt;i&gt;Eddie&lt;/i&gt; Ã¢â‚¬â€œ a person being left out in a group, e.g., the senatoriables:

Ã¢â‚¬Å“&lt;i&gt;Papaano naman si Eddie&lt;/i&gt;?,Ã¢â‚¬Â asked Tatad.  Ã¢â‚¬Å“&lt;i&gt;SinoÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ng Eddie&lt;/i&gt;?, Binay answered.Ã¢â‚¬Â  Tatad sheepishly replied, Ã¢â‚¬Å“&lt;i&gt;Eh, diÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ako&lt;/i&gt;.Ã¢â‚¬Â</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i consider the senate race is <b><i>all about arroyo</i></b> and i would like to narrow the choices into TWOÃ¢â‚¬Â¦whether the candidates are:</p>
<p>a. fors (<i>o-oo kay arroyo</i>), or<br />
b. againsts (<i>a-ayoko kay arroyo</i>).</p>
<p>however, a</p>
<p>c. none-of-the-above force</p>
<p>is in the offing and, as reports would say, endorsements from either Ã¢â‚¬Å“the forsÃ¢â‚¬Â or Ã¢â‚¬Å“the againstsÃ¢â‚¬Â are welcome to them.  now, even a</p>
<p>d. moral force</p>
<p>could sproutÃ¢â‚¬Â¦but thatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s according to only one oppositionist in the person of tatadÃ¢â‚¬Â¦(who, incidentally, i find to be a loathsome <i>Eddie</i>* in the opposition.)</p>
<p>well, i may not be happy that this race will not just be a one-on-one affair but i just hope that thereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ll be no overlapping endorsements.  i am rooting for candidates who are Ã¢â‚¬Å“arroyo-AGAINSTSÃ¢â‚¬ÂÃ¢â‚¬Â¦regardless of their ticket.  any candidate from Ã¢â‚¬Å“the forsÃ¢â‚¬Â and those whose convictions are suspect (like angara and recto) i would certainly eliminate!</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>*<i>Eddie</i> Ã¢â‚¬â€œ a person being left out in a group, e.g., the senatoriables:</p>
<p>Ã¢â‚¬Å“<i>Papaano naman si Eddie</i>?,Ã¢â‚¬Â asked Tatad.  Ã¢â‚¬Å“<i>SinoÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ng Eddie</i>?, Binay answered.Ã¢â‚¬Â  Tatad sheepishly replied, Ã¢â‚¬Å“<i>Eh, diÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ako</i>.Ã¢â‚¬Â</p>
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