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		<title>By: The Dilemma of 2007 Elections &#124; The BLIPS Network</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/01/18/framing-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-1053844</link>
		<dc:creator>The Dilemma of 2007 Elections &#124; The BLIPS Network</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the last horn, the third force. To attack this horn, I leave you to MLQ3 and John Marzan. And this comment by Manuel Buencamino in MLQ3&#8217;s blog: Now a third force, which some people propose as the way [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] the last horn, the third force. To attack this horn, I leave you to MLQ3 and John Marzan. And this comment by Manuel Buencamino in MLQ3&#8217;s blog: Now a third force, which some people propose as the way [...]</p>
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		<title>By: UPn student</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/01/18/framing-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-399317</link>
		<dc:creator>UPn student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 13:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>with benj and moks votes (divided by 2), you get 6-6.  Add cvj&#039;s, the Opposition-share is higher. The Bencard (I think) vote ships the split back to 6-6.  Ellen Tordesillas&#039; vote gives the edge to the Opposition.

But it is the Candidate-Group that takes the difficult effort of appealing to the hopes and concerns of the classes -C, -D, and -E segments that will get the lion-share of the senatorial (and congressional) seats that are up for grabs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>with benj and moks votes (divided by 2), you get 6-6.  Add cvj&#8217;s, the Opposition-share is higher. The Bencard (I think) vote ships the split back to 6-6.  Ellen Tordesillas&#8217; vote gives the edge to the Opposition.</p>
<p>But it is the Candidate-Group that takes the difficult effort of appealing to the hopes and concerns of the classes -C, -D, and -E segments that will get the lion-share of the senatorial (and congressional) seats that are up for grabs.</p>
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		<title>By: moks</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/01/18/framing-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-399299</link>
		<dc:creator>moks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jan 2007 12:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>benj, I think you are out of touch... is going to be 3 (oppsition) - 9 (admin).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>benj, I think you are out of touch&#8230; is going to be 3 (oppsition) &#8211; 9 (admin).</p>
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		<title>By: benj</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/01/18/framing-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-398342</link>
		<dc:creator>benj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 12:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree that this will be an erap vs gma showdown. Methinks,  the opposition will win the senate 9-3.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree that this will be an erap vs gma showdown. Methinks,  the opposition will win the senate 9-3.</p>
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		<title>By: ellen tordesillas</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/01/18/framing-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-398156</link>
		<dc:creator>ellen tordesillas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In antique, it doesn&#039;t matter to GMA if it&#039;s Javier or Delfin who will win. They are both hers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In antique, it doesn&#8217;t matter to GMA if it&#8217;s Javier or Delfin who will win. They are both hers.</p>
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		<title>By: moks</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/01/18/framing-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-398154</link>
		<dc:creator>moks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 09:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mlq, hahaha, what a flawless logic, you amaze me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mlq, hahaha, what a flawless logic, you amaze me!</p>
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		<title>By: cvj</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/01/18/framing-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-398104</link>
		<dc:creator>cvj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 08:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>baycas, based on past behavior, i agree that what you have described is the most likely action that the &lt;i&gt;middle-grounders&lt;/i&gt; will take, which to me, makes a travesty out of their call for a third force.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>baycas, based on past behavior, i agree that what you have described is the most likely action that the <i>middle-grounders</i> will take, which to me, makes a travesty out of their call for a third force.</p>
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		<title>By: mlq3</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/01/18/framing-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-397612</link>
		<dc:creator>mlq3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 02:04:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>moks, if that is your criteria for wanting the senate abolished, without even waiting to see if the electorate will accept or reject them, then you should have called for the abolition of the house of representatives and the governorships and provincial boards and city mayors and city councils and barangay councils long, long, ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>moks, if that is your criteria for wanting the senate abolished, without even waiting to see if the electorate will accept or reject them, then you should have called for the abolition of the house of representatives and the governorships and provincial boards and city mayors and city councils and barangay councils long, long, ago.</p>
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		<title>By: moks</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/01/18/framing-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-397541</link>
		<dc:creator>moks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 00:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Senate should be abolished! It is becoming a family franchise of some sort:

Erap, then Loi, then Jingoy and now JV? Their maids and nannies are now so familiar with the Senate...they complain when the food serve there is not good enough!

The older Cayetano, and then Pia, and now Alan ( what are the credentials of Pia and Alan? because they are their father&#039;s children?)

Pimentel, and now his son who can&#039;t even win in Cagayan de Oro? he run twice there and lost!

The Defensors, Mirriam, then Mike?

And the Revillas...and now Richard Gomez.

Not to mention Lapid, Where is Retz Cortes...di ba sya kasali?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Senate should be abolished! It is becoming a family franchise of some sort:</p>
<p>Erap, then Loi, then Jingoy and now JV? Their maids and nannies are now so familiar with the Senate&#8230;they complain when the food serve there is not good enough!</p>
<p>The older Cayetano, and then Pia, and now Alan ( what are the credentials of Pia and Alan? because they are their father&#8217;s children?)</p>
<p>Pimentel, and now his son who can&#8217;t even win in Cagayan de Oro? he run twice there and lost!</p>
<p>The Defensors, Mirriam, then Mike?</p>
<p>And the Revillas&#8230;and now Richard Gomez.</p>
<p>Not to mention Lapid, Where is Retz Cortes&#8230;di ba sya kasali?</p>
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		<title>By: baycas</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2007/01/18/framing-the-race/comment-page-1/#comment-397498</link>
		<dc:creator>baycas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jan 2007 23:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;And which is why the opposition has to try &lt;b&gt;something different&lt;/b&gt; or continue to suffer the same fate.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

try doing the supreme sacrifice of taking a back seat for a changeÃ¢â‚¬Â¦tito, t.a.o., john o. &amp; the other ejercito should give up their slots.  the first three are obviously rehash and may symbolize senate retrogression.  as regards the latter, j.v. is flaming with youth which may symbolize progress but, i think, that is all he can offerÃ¢â‚¬Â¦

more slots open for other deserving candidatesÃ¢â‚¬Â¦no need for a third force, therefore, thereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ll be an UNO slate for the opposition.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;The question is, if GMA cheats once again, what then will be the stand of the middle? Will they just stand by just like what they have been doing since Hello Garci or will they do &lt;b&gt;something different&lt;/b&gt;?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

they stood in the middle before they still can do it again.  in my opinion, they were the ones who were glad gloria cheated in 2004 for they couldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t erase their extreme abhorrence to erap et al.  an erap-proxy senate slate will be outvoted and may be cheated to ensure an embarrassing erap defeat.  the cheating will again be justified by the &lt;i&gt;middle-grounders&lt;/i&gt;.

&lt;b&gt;something different&lt;/b&gt; this is:
turn the g-v-e frame into the e-v-g (evil gma vs. good opposition) frame.
no choice for the lesser evilÃ¢â‚¬Â¦
since the good shall always prevail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>And which is why the opposition has to try <b>something different</b> or continue to suffer the same fate.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>try doing the supreme sacrifice of taking a back seat for a changeÃ¢â‚¬Â¦tito, t.a.o., john o. &amp; the other ejercito should give up their slots.  the first three are obviously rehash and may symbolize senate retrogression.  as regards the latter, j.v. is flaming with youth which may symbolize progress but, i think, that is all he can offerÃ¢â‚¬Â¦</p>
<p>more slots open for other deserving candidatesÃ¢â‚¬Â¦no need for a third force, therefore, thereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ll be an UNO slate for the opposition.</p>
<blockquote><p><i>The question is, if GMA cheats once again, what then will be the stand of the middle? Will they just stand by just like what they have been doing since Hello Garci or will they do <b>something different</b>?</i></p></blockquote>
<p>they stood in the middle before they still can do it again.  in my opinion, they were the ones who were glad gloria cheated in 2004 for they couldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t erase their extreme abhorrence to erap et al.  an erap-proxy senate slate will be outvoted and may be cheated to ensure an embarrassing erap defeat.  the cheating will again be justified by the <i>middle-grounders</i>.</p>
<p><b>something different</b> this is:<br />
turn the g-v-e frame into the e-v-g (evil gma vs. good opposition) frame.<br />
no choice for the lesser evilÃ¢â‚¬Â¦<br />
since the good shall always prevail.</p>
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