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		<title>By: rego</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/11/29/gang-bang/comment-page-1/#comment-302358</link>
		<dc:creator>rego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>justice league,

I believe that the original plan for cory is to give way to VP Doy Laurel. But she did  not do it. Di kaya nasarapan din sya sa pwesto?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>justice league,</p>
<p>I believe that the original plan for cory is to give way to VP Doy Laurel. But she did  not do it. Di kaya nasarapan din sya sa pwesto?</p>
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		<title>By: justice league</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/11/29/gang-bang/comment-page-1/#comment-302048</link>
		<dc:creator>justice league</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 05:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rego,

I can at least remember one who didn&#039;t want to stay in power. And that was former Pres. Cory. The present Charter didn&#039;t bar her from running again. Of course there can be a gamut of reasons why she should not consider running again but she plainly did not want to run again.

THe so called &quot;People&#039;s Initiative&quot; mandated that a Con Ass was to be called for in about 2 months after ratification. 

And we know what the Supreme Court called the so called &quot;People&#039;s Initiative&quot;!

So to view present attempts for a Con Ass as a rush or to view it with fear shouldn&#039;t be considered as &quot;praningy&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rego,</p>
<p>I can at least remember one who didn&#8217;t want to stay in power. And that was former Pres. Cory. The present Charter didn&#8217;t bar her from running again. Of course there can be a gamut of reasons why she should not consider running again but she plainly did not want to run again.</p>
<p>THe so called &#8220;People&#8217;s Initiative&#8221; mandated that a Con Ass was to be called for in about 2 months after ratification. </p>
<p>And we know what the Supreme Court called the so called &#8220;People&#8217;s Initiative&#8221;!</p>
<p>So to view present attempts for a Con Ass as a rush or to view it with fear shouldn&#8217;t be considered as &#8220;praningy&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: iniduro ni emilie</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/11/29/gang-bang/comment-page-1/#comment-301758</link>
		<dc:creator>iniduro ni emilie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 23:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rego,

haste, haste, haste makes waste. and it&#039;s a mountain pile of waste, especially if the proposal comes from trapos. 

recall how we wasted the process of impeaching erap all because the power grab was well maneuvered by them who couldn&#039;t wait to please their queen.

and now all these queen&#039;s horses and all the kingkong&#039;s men are trying to put lambino&#039;s humpty dumpty together again, and you call that undergoing &quot;usual process&quot;?

hmm, can&#039;t you smell rotten eggs here?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rego,</p>
<p>haste, haste, haste makes waste. and it&#8217;s a mountain pile of waste, especially if the proposal comes from trapos. </p>
<p>recall how we wasted the process of impeaching erap all because the power grab was well maneuvered by them who couldn&#8217;t wait to please their queen.</p>
<p>and now all these queen&#8217;s horses and all the kingkong&#8217;s men are trying to put lambino&#8217;s humpty dumpty together again, and you call that undergoing &#8220;usual process&#8221;?</p>
<p>hmm, can&#8217;t you smell rotten eggs here?</p>
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		<title>By: rego</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/11/29/gang-bang/comment-page-1/#comment-301670</link>
		<dc:creator>rego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe gloria doesn&#039;t exactly  know what is the real situation out there.  But take note the last paragraph of MLQ3. He was saying something about an election as the most probable way of choice by the people in letting gloria or any president go. And im taking it as the 2010 presidential election not the 2007 election.

about the rush for the constituent assembly. anybody who wanted results, plan and strategize their action meticously and doing it with what they believe as as the proper time. There is really nothing wrong with it!. I would prefer that they present that as soon as possible so we will know what is it all about. Then people can debate over it as early as now.

I totally understand why Gloria and some congressman wanted to stay in power. ( sino ba ang ayaw?) but I still believe that it is the general public that should decide on who should stay or who should go. And Im very confident that the peopel will take that duty seriously when it called for.

Now if  Gloria and his allies will twist the people&#039;s will by scheming on the people and convert to parliamentary form government without the consent of the people. Even worst violate the existing law/s just to get the results that they wanted, Ibang usapan na yan. Now that is when it become bad and really wrong.

I find MLQ3s and other write up about &quot;the rush&quot; soooo 
&quot;praningy&quot;. Parang takot na takot sila about con ass. Eh  idea pa lang naman yun eh at i prepresent din naman sa publiko yun eh It will undergo the usual process namna di ba? like public debate ( and of course  grandstanding by each side)  challenging it in the Supreme court etc etc.

Kung ako lang, sige na &quot;bring the cons ass on&quot; and &quot;now na!&quot;so we can discuss, debate , fight over it. Basta ba we do it in a civil way. No problem for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe gloria doesn&#8217;t exactly  know what is the real situation out there.  But take note the last paragraph of MLQ3. He was saying something about an election as the most probable way of choice by the people in letting gloria or any president go. And im taking it as the 2010 presidential election not the 2007 election.</p>
<p>about the rush for the constituent assembly. anybody who wanted results, plan and strategize their action meticously and doing it with what they believe as as the proper time. There is really nothing wrong with it!. I would prefer that they present that as soon as possible so we will know what is it all about. Then people can debate over it as early as now.</p>
<p>I totally understand why Gloria and some congressman wanted to stay in power. ( sino ba ang ayaw?) but I still believe that it is the general public that should decide on who should stay or who should go. And Im very confident that the peopel will take that duty seriously when it called for.</p>
<p>Now if  Gloria and his allies will twist the people&#8217;s will by scheming on the people and convert to parliamentary form government without the consent of the people. Even worst violate the existing law/s just to get the results that they wanted, Ibang usapan na yan. Now that is when it become bad and really wrong.</p>
<p>I find MLQ3s and other write up about &#8220;the rush&#8221; soooo<br />
&#8220;praningy&#8221;. Parang takot na takot sila about con ass. Eh  idea pa lang naman yun eh at i prepresent din naman sa publiko yun eh It will undergo the usual process namna di ba? like public debate ( and of course  grandstanding by each side)  challenging it in the Supreme court etc etc.</p>
<p>Kung ako lang, sige na &#8220;bring the cons ass on&#8221; and &#8220;now na!&#8221;so we can discuss, debate , fight over it. Basta ba we do it in a civil way. No problem for me.</p>
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		<title>By: cvj</title>
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		<dc:creator>cvj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;i&gt;The problems we are encountering with this format (capitalism) is the effects on the markets. Markets are human social institutions. Capitalism has that tendency to break down these natural human institutions. That is the problem. It abolishes the markets.&lt;/i&gt;&quot; - hvrds

Very intriguing that you have made a distinction between markets and capitalism and that the two may actually conflict with each other.  Something to chew on...

For my part, having lived in the belly of a corporation all my working life, i&#039;ve come to believe that these entities are cocoons of socialism with a capitalist skin. 

Rego, you may be right, but judging from mlq3&#039;s above account of the rush to head off the mid-term elections with a constituent assembly, apparently Gloria does not trust the &#039;Great Undecided&#039; enough.  I don&#039;t blame her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<i>The problems we are encountering with this format (capitalism) is the effects on the markets. Markets are human social institutions. Capitalism has that tendency to break down these natural human institutions. That is the problem. It abolishes the markets.</i>&#8221; &#8211; hvrds</p>
<p>Very intriguing that you have made a distinction between markets and capitalism and that the two may actually conflict with each other.  Something to chew on&#8230;</p>
<p>For my part, having lived in the belly of a corporation all my working life, i&#8217;ve come to believe that these entities are cocoons of socialism with a capitalist skin. </p>
<p>Rego, you may be right, but judging from mlq3&#8242;s above account of the rush to head off the mid-term elections with a constituent assembly, apparently Gloria does not trust the &#8216;Great Undecided&#8217; enough.  I don&#8217;t blame her.</p>
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		<title>By: rego</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/11/29/gang-bang/comment-page-1/#comment-301424</link>
		<dc:creator>rego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>on the great undecided, I have a feeling that eventually they will with Gloria, during 2007 election. Why? becuase if they are to go with opposition, thats should have happenned already after the so many tricks, ( dirty and good ones) that were resorted by the opposition in the past 3- 6 years....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>on the great undecided, I have a feeling that eventually they will with Gloria, during 2007 election. Why? becuase if they are to go with opposition, thats should have happenned already after the so many tricks, ( dirty and good ones) that were resorted by the opposition in the past 3- 6 years&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: comment from edwin lacierda and a citation in manoloÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s blog (no, itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s not a traffic ticket, itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s likeÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ someone who matters, read you that day :) &#171; notes of marichu c. lambino</title>
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		<dc:creator>comment from edwin lacierda and a citation in manoloÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s blog (no, itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s not a traffic ticket, itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s likeÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ someone who matters, read you that day :) &#171; notes of marichu c. lambino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 06:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] [Ã¢â‚¬Â¦] caffeine sparks on Viktor Sumsky. Newsstand on the little school that could. Maureen Lycaon on Borneo treeshrews. Marichu Lambino goes the whole hog on disclosures (but rightly so, this is why you can view my CV). [Ã¢â‚¬Â¦] Manuel L. Quezon III: The Daily Dose Ã‚Â» Blog Archive Ã‚Â» Gang Bang - November 30th, 2006 at 1:17 amÃ‚Â Ã‚Â  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] [Ã¢â‚¬Â¦] caffeine sparks on Viktor Sumsky. Newsstand on the little school that could. Maureen Lycaon on Borneo treeshrews. Marichu Lambino goes the whole hog on disclosures (but rightly so, this is why you can view my CV). [Ã¢â‚¬Â¦] Manuel L. Quezon III: The Daily Dose Ã‚Â» Blog Archive Ã‚Â» Gang Bang &#8211; November 30th, 2006 at 1:17 amÃ‚Â Ã‚Â  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: marichulambino</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/11/29/gang-bang/comment-page-1/#comment-300910</link>
		<dc:creator>marichulambino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 05:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>being mentioned in your blog even just a little bit feels  like having gotten an award for that day (:D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>being mentioned in your blog even just a little bit feels  like having gotten an award for that day (:D</p>
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		<title>By: UPn student</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/11/29/gang-bang/comment-page-1/#comment-300523</link>
		<dc:creator>UPn student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 01:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hvrds...   disregard my questions...  cheers!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hvrds&#8230;   disregard my questions&#8230;  cheers!!</p>
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		<title>By: UPn student</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/11/29/gang-bang/comment-page-1/#comment-300516</link>
		<dc:creator>UPn student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 01:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hvrds...  wikipedia defines capitalism as &quot;...an economic system in which the means of production are mostly privately owned, and capital is invested by private owners in the production, distribution, and trade of goods and services for profit. The prices of commodities and decisions about where to invest capital are guided by market forces. The factors of production include land and other natural resources, labor and capital goods.&quot; I don&#039;t know if the Philippines before the Spaniards came had anything more sophisticated than barter, trade, and plundering (being the plunderers or being the victims). You are not saying, are you, that the Spaniards imposed capitalism on the Philippines during the 16th, 17th and 18th centuries?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hvrds&#8230;  wikipedia defines capitalism as &#8220;&#8230;an economic system in which the means of production are mostly privately owned, and capital is invested by private owners in the production, distribution, and trade of goods and services for profit. The prices of commodities and decisions about where to invest capital are guided by market forces. The factors of production include land and other natural resources, labor and capital goods.&#8221; I don&#8217;t know if the Philippines before the Spaniards came had anything more sophisticated than barter, trade, and plundering (being the plunderers or being the victims). You are not saying, are you, that the Spaniards imposed capitalism on the Philippines during the 16th, 17th and 18th centuries?</p>
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