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		<title>By: Current &#187; Democracy&#8217;s design</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/09/23/laurel-and-marcos/comment-page-1/#comment-475154</link>
		<dc:creator>Current &#187; Democracy&#8217;s design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 05:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] one: I&#8217;ve seen how truly awful baranggay elections can be. Then again, if you look at the 1943 Constitution, the model of having one group elect the other groups, has been attractive for some time.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] one: I&#8217;ve seen how truly awful baranggay elections can be. Then again, if you look at the 1943 Constitution, the model of having one group elect the other groups, has been attractive for some time.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cvj</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/09/23/laurel-and-marcos/comment-page-1/#comment-92739</link>
		<dc:creator>cvj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 08:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeg, i remember Ernesto Maceda being interviewed shortly after EDSA where he announced that the Energy Department will be absorbed into his own Natural Resources department largely because of issues related to corruption.  Your conspiracy theory is plausible, but Iâ€™d attribute this more to the tendency of Filipino governments to discard even the good programs of the previous administration just because.

There are those (like Patrick Moore) who say that nuclear power is the only technology which can be implemented on a scale that can replace oil and coal.  I haven&#039;t studied the science of it so Iâ€™m withholding judgment.  If we decide to go nuclear, from a contingency planning standpoint, we better train up a couple of hundred thousand volunteers for dealing with a Chernobyl-type disaster.  Half of Europe is still inhabitable because of the hundreds of thousands of Soviet army and reservist personnel who were enlisted into preventing the melting core from seeping into the water table.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeg, i remember Ernesto Maceda being interviewed shortly after EDSA where he announced that the Energy Department will be absorbed into his own Natural Resources department largely because of issues related to corruption.  Your conspiracy theory is plausible, but Iâ€™d attribute this more to the tendency of Filipino governments to discard even the good programs of the previous administration just because.</p>
<p>There are those (like Patrick Moore) who say that nuclear power is the only technology which can be implemented on a scale that can replace oil and coal.  I haven&#8217;t studied the science of it so Iâ€™m withholding judgment.  If we decide to go nuclear, from a contingency planning standpoint, we better train up a couple of hundred thousand volunteers for dealing with a Chernobyl-type disaster.  Half of Europe is still inhabitable because of the hundreds of thousands of Soviet army and reservist personnel who were enlisted into preventing the melting core from seeping into the water table.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeg</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/09/23/laurel-and-marcos/comment-page-1/#comment-91885</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 04:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of nuclear power, the founder of Greenpeace recently went to bat for it. See this Washington Post story: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/14/AR2006041401209.html

Every government we had since Cory did not have a vision for our country&#039;s energy-independence. It seems that they just accepted the fact that we&#039;ll be forever dependent, counting on WB loans and such to tide as over as our dollars are drained to buy more foreign oil. The conspiracy theorist in me see the hand of Big Oil in our energy policies since Cory, and that policy could be summed up in 2 words: Bahala and na. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of nuclear power, the founder of Greenpeace recently went to bat for it. See this Washington Post story: <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/14/AR2006041401209.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/14/AR2006041401209.html</a></p>
<p>Every government we had since Cory did not have a vision for our country&#8217;s energy-independence. It seems that they just accepted the fact that we&#8217;ll be forever dependent, counting on WB loans and such to tide as over as our dollars are drained to buy more foreign oil. The conspiracy theorist in me see the hand of Big Oil in our energy policies since Cory, and that policy could be summed up in 2 words: Bahala and na. <img src='http://www.quezon.ph/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: cvj</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/09/23/laurel-and-marcos/comment-page-1/#comment-91611</link>
		<dc:creator>cvj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 02:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeg, you&#039;re right to point out the genuine trade-offs between energy independence and ancestral rights.  I read that this time around, the same trade-offs are being brought up with regards to the issue of large-scale mining in the Cordillera.  Aside from the Chico Dam, the Bataan Nuclear Power Plant was also part of Marcos&#039; vision for energy independence and that also fell through.  So while we can say that Marcos had the vision, it was clear that he fell far short when it came to implementation.  (He would have felt at home in the IT industry.)

In any case, by their brave opposition, the Kalinga&#039;s and other cultural minorities have taught the rest of the Filipino people a practical lesson on why we need a deliberative democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeg, you&#8217;re right to point out the genuine trade-offs between energy independence and ancestral rights.  I read that this time around, the same trade-offs are being brought up with regards to the issue of large-scale mining in the Cordillera.  Aside from the Chico Dam, the Bataan Nuclear Power Plant was also part of Marcos&#8217; vision for energy independence and that also fell through.  So while we can say that Marcos had the vision, it was clear that he fell far short when it came to implementation.  (He would have felt at home in the IT industry.)</p>
<p>In any case, by their brave opposition, the Kalinga&#8217;s and other cultural minorities have taught the rest of the Filipino people a practical lesson on why we need a deliberative democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeg</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/09/23/laurel-and-marcos/comment-page-1/#comment-91538</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 01:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Chico dam project was one of those things Marcos thought up as part of his grand vision to wean our country from dependence on foreign oil. If memory serves, it did not push through because it got overtaken by EDSA. That should give people a great topic for discussion during coffee breaks, eh? The rights of our cultural minorities vs the demand of the majority for power to run industries, microwave ovens, and Playstations.

By the way, has there been any independent account on the ante-dating of the Martial Law proclamation? What I keep reading is that Marcos ante-dated it to the 21st because of some mumbo-jumbo, hokum and hex, numerological reason, which sounds pretty urban-legendish to me. Makes much more sense to have actually signed the proclamation on the 21st then announced it later after all his opponents have been neutralized. It might be a case of some people&#039;s readiness to believe any weird theory about Marcos than to actual events.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Chico dam project was one of those things Marcos thought up as part of his grand vision to wean our country from dependence on foreign oil. If memory serves, it did not push through because it got overtaken by EDSA. That should give people a great topic for discussion during coffee breaks, eh? The rights of our cultural minorities vs the demand of the majority for power to run industries, microwave ovens, and Playstations.</p>
<p>By the way, has there been any independent account on the ante-dating of the Martial Law proclamation? What I keep reading is that Marcos ante-dated it to the 21st because of some mumbo-jumbo, hokum and hex, numerological reason, which sounds pretty urban-legendish to me. Makes much more sense to have actually signed the proclamation on the 21st then announced it later after all his opponents have been neutralized. It might be a case of some people&#8217;s readiness to believe any weird theory about Marcos than to actual events.</p>
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		<title>By: cvj</title>
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		<dc:creator>cvj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Sep 2006 00:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>elinca, the dam project did not push through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>elinca, the dam project did not push through.</p>
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		<title>By: elinca</title>
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		<dc:creator>elinca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 20:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cvj, what happened to the dam project that Dulag opposed to? Did it go thru?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cvj, what happened to the dam project that Dulag opposed to? Did it go thru?</p>
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		<title>By: tbl</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/09/23/laurel-and-marcos/comment-page-1/#comment-90448</link>
		<dc:creator>tbl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 19:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i mean tatad has been there, DONE that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i mean tatad has been there, DONE that.</p>
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		<title>By: tbl</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/09/23/laurel-and-marcos/comment-page-1/#comment-90228</link>
		<dc:creator>tbl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 18:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>check the arguments of kit tatad against singaw. i think they are valid. after all, tatad has been been there, than that. he know the ins and outs. he is a veteran. he was one of the &quot;greatest men&quot; of makoy. he mayde doing the best thing in his life &quot;if&quot; the filipinos will listen to him, just this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>check the arguments of kit tatad against singaw. i think they are valid. after all, tatad has been been there, than that. he know the ins and outs. he is a veteran. he was one of the &#8220;greatest men&#8221; of makoy. he mayde doing the best thing in his life &#8220;if&#8221; the filipinos will listen to him, just this time.</p>
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		<title>By: tbl</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/09/23/laurel-and-marcos/comment-page-1/#comment-90101</link>
		<dc:creator>tbl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Sep 2006 17:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s why i said before, new society was sneaky....same with sigaw&#039;s proposals. it was a fake batasan, this will be a fake parliament.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s why i said before, new society was sneaky&#8230;.same with sigaw&#8217;s proposals. it was a fake batasan, this will be a fake parliament.</p>
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