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		<title>By: Abiti da sposa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abiti da sposa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2006 07:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leggo ed imparo sul vostro luogo. grazie!</description>
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		<title>By: Doubting_Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doubting_Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re #15:  If Col. Kison indeed made that statement, it would be appalling.  Do you have a link?</description>
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		<title>By: a de brux</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/26/pushing-the-envelope/comment-page-1/#comment-16830</link>
		<dc:creator>a de brux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jinx,

Kison is being stupid by announcing that. He shouldn&#039;t have pronounced things in such a confusing manner.

Unfortunately, a military organization&#039;s internal rules hold sway over its members to a higher degree than the dictates of a nation&#039;s constitution overall. 

The military adheres to the concept of democratic processes within its organization only to a certain extent. It&#039;s almost a paradox really that the military - the armed component of the Republic - is tasked with safeguarding the nation&#039;s civilian component&#039;s democratic rights to life and liberty but the military itself, in theory, is not a proponent of these democratic rights for its members.  

For instance, the military does not recognize freedom of speech by its members or liberty to do as they wish within the organization. However, to translate that publicly is out of bounds - when a military speaks to the public, everything he utters becomes a civilian concern and are subject to civilian rules. 

If he really said that in public, he commited an enormous tactical error - he just submitted himself to &quot;civilian discipline&quot; and should be militarily reprimanded (perhaps suspended from his post) and should be officialy rebuked by no less than the Minister of Defence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jinx,</p>
<p>Kison is being stupid by announcing that. He shouldn&#8217;t have pronounced things in such a confusing manner.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, a military organization&#8217;s internal rules hold sway over its members to a higher degree than the dictates of a nation&#8217;s constitution overall. </p>
<p>The military adheres to the concept of democratic processes within its organization only to a certain extent. It&#8217;s almost a paradox really that the military &#8211; the armed component of the Republic &#8211; is tasked with safeguarding the nation&#8217;s civilian component&#8217;s democratic rights to life and liberty but the military itself, in theory, is not a proponent of these democratic rights for its members.  </p>
<p>For instance, the military does not recognize freedom of speech by its members or liberty to do as they wish within the organization. However, to translate that publicly is out of bounds &#8211; when a military speaks to the public, everything he utters becomes a civilian concern and are subject to civilian rules. </p>
<p>If he really said that in public, he commited an enormous tactical error &#8211; he just submitted himself to &#8220;civilian discipline&#8221; and should be militarily reprimanded (perhaps suspended from his post) and should be officialy rebuked by no less than the Minister of Defence.</p>
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		<title>By: joselu</title>
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		<dc:creator>joselu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In pigs, what&#039;s wrong in saying that they are adults anyway &amp; must face the consequences of their actions.
Why should they be above the rest?
Are there not more needy people to attend too then them?
Good, then there should be more Gawad Kalinga people cause they are better exsamples to follow.
It&#039;s just not in my nature to pay attention to things that others do as an obligation.
Maybe your more sensetive to a convoy of cars.For me it&#039;s just a convoy. I have better things to do then getting annoyed by petty matters.
In reality, I guess we all have a piece of pride one way or the other
Maybe yours is not wanting to be pissed by convoys &amp; so on.
Anyway, going back to my point earlier. It&#039;s really about giving more attention to those who work silently to deliver things. And not to those adults who get into trouble &amp; don&#039;t accept the consequences &amp; try to be symbol of sorts.
Nga pala, it&#039;s not intended as a lecture,it&#039;s just writing down an opinion.
BTW, I was commenting on the CPR thing &amp; writing the reaction of a lawyer commenting on the SC ruling being a win win situation.I would like to beleave i was being objective enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In pigs, what&#8217;s wrong in saying that they are adults anyway &amp; must face the consequences of their actions.<br />
Why should they be above the rest?<br />
Are there not more needy people to attend too then them?<br />
Good, then there should be more Gawad Kalinga people cause they are better exsamples to follow.<br />
It&#8217;s just not in my nature to pay attention to things that others do as an obligation.<br />
Maybe your more sensetive to a convoy of cars.For me it&#8217;s just a convoy. I have better things to do then getting annoyed by petty matters.<br />
In reality, I guess we all have a piece of pride one way or the other<br />
Maybe yours is not wanting to be pissed by convoys &amp; so on.<br />
Anyway, going back to my point earlier. It&#8217;s really about giving more attention to those who work silently to deliver things. And not to those adults who get into trouble &amp; don&#8217;t accept the consequences &amp; try to be symbol of sorts.<br />
Nga pala, it&#8217;s not intended as a lecture,it&#8217;s just writing down an opinion.<br />
BTW, I was commenting on the CPR thing &amp; writing the reaction of a lawyer commenting on the SC ruling being a win win situation.I would like to beleave i was being objective enough.</p>
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		<title>By: jinx</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/26/pushing-the-envelope/comment-page-1/#comment-16751</link>
		<dc:creator>jinx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>27 April 2006

Hey guys,

Off topic.

Have you heard or read the statement of col tristan kison regarding the congressional hearing to be conducted by the senate??? 

&quot;For the Armed Forces of the PhilippinesÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ (AFP) top brass, section g-200-013 of the AFP Rules and Regulations issued on Dec. 29, 1967 is a law superior to the Constitution, even with a Supreme Court (SC) ruling that the AFP officers and men can be compelled by Congress to attend and testify before the body on inquiries in aid of legislation&quot;

I call on the people to be extra vigilant, for tomorrow, the next day ot the next week, one day we wake up and gloria, her clowns ang her generals (prostituted) has already decalred martial law.

My question right now is, If kison wqas able to give a statement regarding above-mentioned&quot; Is this prelude to martial law???

Manmanan dapat sila!!!!!

jinx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>27 April 2006</p>
<p>Hey guys,</p>
<p>Off topic.</p>
<p>Have you heard or read the statement of col tristan kison regarding the congressional hearing to be conducted by the senate??? </p>
<p>&#8220;For the Armed Forces of the PhilippinesÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ (AFP) top brass, section g-200-013 of the AFP Rules and Regulations issued on Dec. 29, 1967 is a law superior to the Constitution, even with a Supreme Court (SC) ruling that the AFP officers and men can be compelled by Congress to attend and testify before the body on inquiries in aid of legislation&#8221;</p>
<p>I call on the people to be extra vigilant, for tomorrow, the next day ot the next week, one day we wake up and gloria, her clowns ang her generals (prostituted) has already decalred martial law.</p>
<p>My question right now is, If kison wqas able to give a statement regarding above-mentioned&#8221; Is this prelude to martial law???</p>
<p>Manmanan dapat sila!!!!!</p>
<p>jinx</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Cruz</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/26/pushing-the-envelope/comment-page-1/#comment-16735</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Cruz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 18:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Injustice and Empty Stomachs Ã¢â‚¬â€œ The Dangerous Duo

There it is again.  Injustice rearing its ugly head in the case of the courageous young graduate, a wisp of a little lady, Theresa Pangilinan.  Such bullying tactics by no less than the Justice Secretary just goads people into fits of rage.  This is no longer an act of intimidation.  It is plain bullying.  And of young graduates at that. Never in my life have I seen such  behavior from a Justice Secretary.  It defies all codes of decency and human behavior expected of a man in such a position of power and authority.

And the Cavite State University, according to Theresa, has decided to withold the release of her Transcript of Records.  So now this young graduate can&#039;t use those records to get a job. Is this a University? A State University? If this is not injustice, I don&#039;t know what is.

ThereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s something about humans that cry out for justice.  Animals donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t demand for justice.  Humans do.  Justice tugs at you.  It cries out to be soothed.  It bores deep into the very marrow of oneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s bones.  And the feeling of injustice is contaminating.  It spreads like a virus, affecting people around who have not been subjected to such injustice but see injustice done to someone.  Justice has to have a vent.  Contain it for too long and it explodes.

Injustice has been the spark of many revolutions and rebellions since the dawn of human history.  That is why those who rule should take heed the lessons of the fallen leaders.  Almost always it has been INJUSTICE  and/or  EMPTY STOMACHS that have brought down rulers.

It is unfortunate that the present justice system is seen by many to be inefficient, selective and unjust.  That is already a red flag.  

It is also unfortunate that the average Filipino familyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s real earnings are shrinking  and  thereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s less and less food on the family table by the day. That, too, is a red flag.

This administration unfortunately canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t seem to see the color red.  They can only see blue.  And so they go on their merry arrogant lying and bullying ways.  Oblivious of a gathering storm. Failing to see the Dangerous Duo already on the horizon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Injustice and Empty Stomachs Ã¢â‚¬â€œ The Dangerous Duo</p>
<p>There it is again.  Injustice rearing its ugly head in the case of the courageous young graduate, a wisp of a little lady, Theresa Pangilinan.  Such bullying tactics by no less than the Justice Secretary just goads people into fits of rage.  This is no longer an act of intimidation.  It is plain bullying.  And of young graduates at that. Never in my life have I seen such  behavior from a Justice Secretary.  It defies all codes of decency and human behavior expected of a man in such a position of power and authority.</p>
<p>And the Cavite State University, according to Theresa, has decided to withold the release of her Transcript of Records.  So now this young graduate can&#8217;t use those records to get a job. Is this a University? A State University? If this is not injustice, I don&#8217;t know what is.</p>
<p>ThereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s something about humans that cry out for justice.  Animals donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t demand for justice.  Humans do.  Justice tugs at you.  It cries out to be soothed.  It bores deep into the very marrow of oneÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s bones.  And the feeling of injustice is contaminating.  It spreads like a virus, affecting people around who have not been subjected to such injustice but see injustice done to someone.  Justice has to have a vent.  Contain it for too long and it explodes.</p>
<p>Injustice has been the spark of many revolutions and rebellions since the dawn of human history.  That is why those who rule should take heed the lessons of the fallen leaders.  Almost always it has been INJUSTICE  and/or  EMPTY STOMACHS that have brought down rulers.</p>
<p>It is unfortunate that the present justice system is seen by many to be inefficient, selective and unjust.  That is already a red flag.  </p>
<p>It is also unfortunate that the average Filipino familyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s real earnings are shrinking  and  thereÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s less and less food on the family table by the day. That, too, is a red flag.</p>
<p>This administration unfortunately canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t seem to see the color red.  They can only see blue.  And so they go on their merry arrogant lying and bullying ways.  Oblivious of a gathering storm. Failing to see the Dangerous Duo already on the horizon.</p>
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		<title>By: in a pig's eye</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/26/pushing-the-envelope/comment-page-1/#comment-16732</link>
		<dc:creator>in a pig's eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment #5 from Joselu:

Ã¢â‚¬Å“-in a way we should have less of people (-referring to: Randy David &amp; Riza Hontiveros-Baraquiel)  w/ so much pride &amp; more of people who work silently &amp; accomplish things.Ã¢â‚¬Â

Well now, could you by any chance ASLO happen to be referring to the dis-honorable Gluemax, Joselu ?   

-She of the self-serving statements (Ã¢â‚¬Å“-the Jueteng Lord put me here..Ã¢â‚¬Â), the endless ribbon cutting photo-ops, the twisted facts and the conveniently mangled Ã¢â‚¬Å“pogi-pointÃ¢â‚¬Â figures (-8M signatures, 9M website visits)?   

-Work silently to accomplish things?
Gawad Kalinga works silently to accomplish things, yes.

But Gluemax ?   Hochst! (Ã¢â‚¬â€œin german Pilipino..)

Of course you wouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t have happened to notice any of these things about her, would you?

~~
Just the other day I was on EDSA..
And along comes a stream of some 15 maybe 20 cars barreling through so as to occupy all of 4 lanes of EDSAÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s 6.  

In the Marcos days of yore, a retinue of back-up vehicles was provided to ensconce some self-important pompous ass in a secure Ã¢â‚¬Å“condom-sanitexedÃ¢â‚¬Â (cordon sanitaire) travel environment.

Ang tanong, sino nanaman kaya ang hinayupak na napaka importanteng anak ng baka na ina-alalayan ng mga tutang PNP na ito?

Care to hazard a guess, Joselu?

Whoever that was, whether it be Gluemax herself or some cabinet stooge of hers, the point is that, now Ã¢â‚¬â€œas before,  they gotta condom-sanitex their self important asses when they travel around the metropolis.

And why is this?
Only because, as in the last days of Marcos, Gluemax and her coterie of soft bellied ninnies are now too afraid to travel without some exaggerated form of security escort.

-And why is that?
Well.. the guilty fear for their lives while posturing bravely to feign strength.

So Joselu..
What&#039;s this you were lecturing us about, pride?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment #5 from Joselu:</p>
<p>Ã¢â‚¬Å“-in a way we should have less of people (-referring to: Randy David &amp; Riza Hontiveros-Baraquiel)  w/ so much pride &amp; more of people who work silently &amp; accomplish things.Ã¢â‚¬Â</p>
<p>Well now, could you by any chance ASLO happen to be referring to the dis-honorable Gluemax, Joselu ?   </p>
<p>-She of the self-serving statements (Ã¢â‚¬Å“-the Jueteng Lord put me here..Ã¢â‚¬Â), the endless ribbon cutting photo-ops, the twisted facts and the conveniently mangled Ã¢â‚¬Å“pogi-pointÃ¢â‚¬Â figures (-8M signatures, 9M website visits)?   </p>
<p>-Work silently to accomplish things?<br />
Gawad Kalinga works silently to accomplish things, yes.</p>
<p>But Gluemax ?   Hochst! (Ã¢â‚¬â€œin german Pilipino..)</p>
<p>Of course you wouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t have happened to notice any of these things about her, would you?</p>
<p>~~<br />
Just the other day I was on EDSA..<br />
And along comes a stream of some 15 maybe 20 cars barreling through so as to occupy all of 4 lanes of EDSAÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s 6.  </p>
<p>In the Marcos days of yore, a retinue of back-up vehicles was provided to ensconce some self-important pompous ass in a secure Ã¢â‚¬Å“condom-sanitexedÃ¢â‚¬Â (cordon sanitaire) travel environment.</p>
<p>Ang tanong, sino nanaman kaya ang hinayupak na napaka importanteng anak ng baka na ina-alalayan ng mga tutang PNP na ito?</p>
<p>Care to hazard a guess, Joselu?</p>
<p>Whoever that was, whether it be Gluemax herself or some cabinet stooge of hers, the point is that, now Ã¢â‚¬â€œas before,  they gotta condom-sanitex their self important asses when they travel around the metropolis.</p>
<p>And why is this?<br />
Only because, as in the last days of Marcos, Gluemax and her coterie of soft bellied ninnies are now too afraid to travel without some exaggerated form of security escort.</p>
<p>-And why is that?<br />
Well.. the guilty fear for their lives while posturing bravely to feign strength.</p>
<p>So Joselu..<br />
What&#8217;s this you were lecturing us about, pride?</p>
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		<title>By: d0d0ng</title>
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		<dc:creator>d0d0ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ethanol seems attractive nowadays not because of its clean output but primarily due to high oil prices.

Ethanol is purely a business product and will only be successful if you can sustain long term use of ethanol by the driving public. As we have seen in the past, oil prices can go down and that is enough to kill ethanol as business product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ethanol seems attractive nowadays not because of its clean output but primarily due to high oil prices.</p>
<p>Ethanol is purely a business product and will only be successful if you can sustain long term use of ethanol by the driving public. As we have seen in the past, oil prices can go down and that is enough to kill ethanol as business product.</p>
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		<title>By: d0d0ng</title>
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		<dc:creator>d0d0ng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 16:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, the Supreme Court has done its job, maybe slow but still critical to have a functioning democracy. 

This is not America where you can sue the state.

The government still has the upper hand knowing that if it has done illegal, the government has no liability except for the implementing person to be accused in excess of legal authority. That is still workable for the government to give verbal instruction (not written) to policemen in defiance of court rulings and individual police to face the court.

This is what I have said a long time ago that how many cases have to be filed against erring policemen to be taken out of service for excess of authority.

I guess the answer is until the time when government workers such as the police understand when to refuse an illegal instruction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, the Supreme Court has done its job, maybe slow but still critical to have a functioning democracy. </p>
<p>This is not America where you can sue the state.</p>
<p>The government still has the upper hand knowing that if it has done illegal, the government has no liability except for the implementing person to be accused in excess of legal authority. That is still workable for the government to give verbal instruction (not written) to policemen in defiance of court rulings and individual police to face the court.</p>
<p>This is what I have said a long time ago that how many cases have to be filed against erring policemen to be taken out of service for excess of authority.</p>
<p>I guess the answer is until the time when government workers such as the police understand when to refuse an illegal instruction.</p>
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		<title>By: Doubting_Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doubting_Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2006 12:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re #1: &quot;The Ã¢â‚¬Å“answer is, why did resolving the cases take so long?Ã¢â‚¬Â&quot;

Before I can begin to speculate, I&#039;d like to know:

1.  How long does it normally take the Supreme Court to decide cases?

2.  Did the Supreme Court take an unusually long time to decide these cases?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re #1: &#8220;The Ã¢â‚¬Å“answer is, why did resolving the cases take so long?Ã¢â‚¬Â&#8221;</p>
<p>Before I can begin to speculate, I&#8217;d like to know:</p>
<p>1.  How long does it normally take the Supreme Court to decide cases?</p>
<p>2.  Did the Supreme Court take an unusually long time to decide these cases?</p>
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