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		<title>By: Buy Antivert</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/25/marching-orders/comment-page-2/#comment-245542</link>
		<dc:creator>Buy Antivert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/25/marching-orders/comment-page-2/#comment-46039</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Sep 2006 15:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to say hi and nice job on your website.</description>
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		<title>By: cvj</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/25/marching-orders/comment-page-2/#comment-17492</link>
		<dc:creator>cvj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2006 06:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eskapo, i understand MLQ3&#039;s column as a response to Bel Cunanan&#039;s &#039;Political Tidbits&#039; column, so his clarification had to be calibrated at that level (i.e., that of exposing political propaganda).  And since when was revealing a falsehood &#039;politically malicious&#039;?  And who do you refer to by the pronoun &#039;us&#039;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eskapo, i understand MLQ3&#8242;s column as a response to Bel Cunanan&#8217;s &#8216;Political Tidbits&#8217; column, so his clarification had to be calibrated at that level (i.e., that of exposing political propaganda).  And since when was revealing a falsehood &#8216;politically malicious&#8217;?  And who do you refer to by the pronoun &#8216;us&#8217;?</p>
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		<title>By: eskapo ng tondo</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/25/marching-orders/comment-page-2/#comment-17445</link>
		<dc:creator>eskapo ng tondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 04:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly my point Mr. Viloria. The homepage of Sigaw ng Bayan doesn&#039;t even show or brag that it has 9 Million visits! Hence, the counter there (showing something like 300k plus). So what&#039;s the big fuss?? Are we going to start speculating that the site really isn&#039;t forthright with it&#039;s claim of 300k visits (and as many techies here have explained, could easily translate to about 12Million &quot;hits&quot;). What I thoroughly dislike about Mr. Quezon&#039;s column is that it&#039;s posing as a technical report with an obviously politically malicious agenda. Would he like to be ascribed the same kind of ill-motives in writing his column, or putting up this blog? What, like i said, would have been sufficiently corrected by an objective clarification has now been mangled into a smear campaign against a popular advocacy.

Don&#039;t get me wrong, i don&#039;t necessarily understand nor side with Sigaw ng Bayan or whatever it&#039;s &quot;crying out for&quot;. I&#039;m just saying that it&#039;s a lot easier to criticize and condemn, but takes courage to admit your deeper motives. I&#039;d hate to point out that the website isn&#039;t even claiming 9Million vists (accurately, it said &quot;hits&quot;). In the same way it shows a counter on its homepage that reflects it&#039;s claim of 300k visits (and it&#039;s not necessarily claiming these are &quot;unique&quot; visitors).

Now, and as pointed out many times on the posts above, these are hardly &quot;impossible&quot; or even &quot;phenomenal&quot;. Too bad we haven&#039;t thought of putting up a website like this before they did, but bite it and live on! Do I even need to point out that Charter Change and the Sigaw ng Bayan movement is ACTUALLY ONE OF THE HOTTEST TOPICS right now? Just watch television on any channel in a day and you&#039;ll get my point clearly.

Then again, it&#039;s their right to speak up and so it is our right to speak out. Just avoid ascribing motives and whatnot because they just might do the same to us. And then nobody would know for the better. Cheers! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly my point Mr. Viloria. The homepage of Sigaw ng Bayan doesn&#8217;t even show or brag that it has 9 Million visits! Hence, the counter there (showing something like 300k plus). So what&#8217;s the big fuss?? Are we going to start speculating that the site really isn&#8217;t forthright with it&#8217;s claim of 300k visits (and as many techies here have explained, could easily translate to about 12Million &#8220;hits&#8221;). What I thoroughly dislike about Mr. Quezon&#8217;s column is that it&#8217;s posing as a technical report with an obviously politically malicious agenda. Would he like to be ascribed the same kind of ill-motives in writing his column, or putting up this blog? What, like i said, would have been sufficiently corrected by an objective clarification has now been mangled into a smear campaign against a popular advocacy.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, i don&#8217;t necessarily understand nor side with Sigaw ng Bayan or whatever it&#8217;s &#8220;crying out for&#8221;. I&#8217;m just saying that it&#8217;s a lot easier to criticize and condemn, but takes courage to admit your deeper motives. I&#8217;d hate to point out that the website isn&#8217;t even claiming 9Million vists (accurately, it said &#8220;hits&#8221;). In the same way it shows a counter on its homepage that reflects it&#8217;s claim of 300k visits (and it&#8217;s not necessarily claiming these are &#8220;unique&#8221; visitors).</p>
<p>Now, and as pointed out many times on the posts above, these are hardly &#8220;impossible&#8221; or even &#8220;phenomenal&#8221;. Too bad we haven&#8217;t thought of putting up a website like this before they did, but bite it and live on! Do I even need to point out that Charter Change and the Sigaw ng Bayan movement is ACTUALLY ONE OF THE HOTTEST TOPICS right now? Just watch television on any channel in a day and you&#8217;ll get my point clearly.</p>
<p>Then again, it&#8217;s their right to speak up and so it is our right to speak out. Just avoid ascribing motives and whatnot because they just might do the same to us. And then nobody would know for the better. Cheers! <img src='http://www.quezon.ph/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Manuel Viloria</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/25/marching-orders/comment-page-2/#comment-17286</link>
		<dc:creator>Manuel Viloria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 11:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you heard of a site that displays 1.16 million visits on their homepage? The homepage references 5 files: the homepage html file, 3 jpg files, and 1 css file. Hence, the 1.6 million visits to the homepage alone translates to 5.58 million *hits*.

A techie was able to generate at least 800,000 &quot;visits&quot; to the homepage in just two days. At 5 files on the homepage, that&#039;s over 4 million hits in just two days. From just one techie.

(Five browser windows opening the homepage per second equals 432,000 &quot;visits&quot; for every 24-hour period.)

The SigawNgBayan homepage, on the other hand, references 23 files, hence each &quot;visit&quot; to the homepage counts as 23 hits. If that techie &quot;visited&quot; the SNB site, that would&#039;ve generated 1.98 milllion hits per day. From just one techie.

Nine million hits in 21 days is attainable. I just hope our fellow Filipinos don&#039;t interpret that as 9 million people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you heard of a site that displays 1.16 million visits on their homepage? The homepage references 5 files: the homepage html file, 3 jpg files, and 1 css file. Hence, the 1.6 million visits to the homepage alone translates to 5.58 million *hits*.</p>
<p>A techie was able to generate at least 800,000 &#8220;visits&#8221; to the homepage in just two days. At 5 files on the homepage, that&#8217;s over 4 million hits in just two days. From just one techie.</p>
<p>(Five browser windows opening the homepage per second equals 432,000 &#8220;visits&#8221; for every 24-hour period.)</p>
<p>The SigawNgBayan homepage, on the other hand, references 23 files, hence each &#8220;visit&#8221; to the homepage counts as 23 hits. If that techie &#8220;visited&#8221; the SNB site, that would&#8217;ve generated 1.98 milllion hits per day. From just one techie.</p>
<p>Nine million hits in 21 days is attainable. I just hope our fellow Filipinos don&#8217;t interpret that as 9 million people.</p>
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		<title>By: eskapo ng tondo</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/25/marching-orders/comment-page-2/#comment-17186</link>
		<dc:creator>eskapo ng tondo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 04:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s funny how you guys you non-sparingly dissect the website. A simple clarification on the matter would have been sufficient. In fact, I would have respected M Quezon III more had he written a more objective (but that might be a long shot eh?) column and explained: &quot;Hey, you guys might not have gotten your ABC&#039;s on Cyberspace straight&quot;... or something like that.

Instead, all the bruhaha and needless criticisms come about (and probably added another 2million or so hits to the the Sigaw ng Bayan website in the process).

I rather like the linked article as written above (http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=806). Now I&#039;d say that&#039;s a lot more professionally said than what MLQIII&#039;s column tried, but failed, to say.

Ok fine, so the website got a lot more hits than this one. Fine, Lambino might not know the real difference between &quot;hits&quot; and &quot;pageviews&quot;, etc. He&#039;s just a lawyer, it&#039;s his web provider that most probably reported it to him first. Fine, we can all turn green with envy because of all the publicity, either negative or positive, they&#039;re all having. But that still doesn&#039;t count as enough ground to call them outright liars, cheats, etc. Else we&#039;d be branded the same way we&#039;re branding them.

It&#039;s a learning experience though, so deal with it and good luck! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny how you guys you non-sparingly dissect the website. A simple clarification on the matter would have been sufficient. In fact, I would have respected M Quezon III more had he written a more objective (but that might be a long shot eh?) column and explained: &#8220;Hey, you guys might not have gotten your ABC&#8217;s on Cyberspace straight&#8221;&#8230; or something like that.</p>
<p>Instead, all the bruhaha and needless criticisms come about (and probably added another 2million or so hits to the the Sigaw ng Bayan website in the process).</p>
<p>I rather like the linked article as written above (<a href="http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=806" rel="nofollow">http://www.yugatech.com/blog/?p=806</a>). Now I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s a lot more professionally said than what MLQIII&#8217;s column tried, but failed, to say.</p>
<p>Ok fine, so the website got a lot more hits than this one. Fine, Lambino might not know the real difference between &#8220;hits&#8221; and &#8220;pageviews&#8221;, etc. He&#8217;s just a lawyer, it&#8217;s his web provider that most probably reported it to him first. Fine, we can all turn green with envy because of all the publicity, either negative or positive, they&#8217;re all having. But that still doesn&#8217;t count as enough ground to call them outright liars, cheats, etc. Else we&#8217;d be branded the same way we&#8217;re branding them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a learning experience though, so deal with it and good luck! <img src='http://www.quezon.ph/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: A quick lesson for &#8220;Sigaw ng Bayan&#8221; on web stats &#187; @ Ambot ah! [ technology news and reviews ]</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/25/marching-orders/comment-page-2/#comment-17024</link>
		<dc:creator>A quick lesson for &#8220;Sigaw ng Bayan&#8221; on web stats &#187; @ Ambot ah! [ technology news and reviews ]</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Apr 2006 04:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Manolo points out the claim of Sigaw ng Bayan (sigawngbayan.com) representative Raul Lambino (People&#8217;s Initiative) that their site got 9 million hits in the first 3 weeks that it was up. A screenshot of their website 3 days ago showed a &#8220;bandwidth exceeded&#8221; notice.  Dean Jorge Bocobo follows it up with a deeper scrutiny of the site&#8217;s profile on the net and its exposure on the search engines. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Manolo points out the claim of Sigaw ng Bayan (sigawngbayan.com) representative Raul Lambino (People&#8217;s Initiative) that their site got 9 million hits in the first 3 weeks that it was up. A screenshot of their website 3 days ago showed a &#8220;bandwidth exceeded&#8221; notice.  Dean Jorge Bocobo follows it up with a deeper scrutiny of the site&#8217;s profile on the net and its exposure on the search engines. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/25/marching-orders/comment-page-2/#comment-16875</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 18:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it hard to BELEAVE most, if not all, the EXSAMPLES given by a certain poster here. I don&#039;t pretend to know his INTENSIONS but I suspect one of several possibilities. Either he is deliberately using misspellings and bad grammar to his advantage because most decent readers are bothered by them, or he is really an idiot-savant (minus the savant part) as Steve Carrell put it. There might be other options.

Here&#039;s an EXSAMPLE from one of his posts: &quot;I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t see what is wrong in not supporting people who have constructive ways of solving our problems.&quot; Multiple negatives make it hard to understand what one is trying to say.


In any case, sino ba ang nagsasabi among those opposing cha-cha na gusto lang nila ang status quo? They, and I count myself among them, do want change. They want to change the palace occupant. They want to change the cabinet. They want to to revamp Comelec. They want to reform the military. They want all sorts of changes. Nobody wants status quo, nor can anybody preserve it. Change happens whether we like it or not. But all of us want the kind of changes that agree with our deeply held beliefs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it hard to BELEAVE most, if not all, the EXSAMPLES given by a certain poster here. I don&#8217;t pretend to know his INTENSIONS but I suspect one of several possibilities. Either he is deliberately using misspellings and bad grammar to his advantage because most decent readers are bothered by them, or he is really an idiot-savant (minus the savant part) as Steve Carrell put it. There might be other options.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s an EXSAMPLE from one of his posts: &#8220;I donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t see what is wrong in not supporting people who have constructive ways of solving our problems.&#8221; Multiple negatives make it hard to understand what one is trying to say.</p>
<p>In any case, sino ba ang nagsasabi among those opposing cha-cha na gusto lang nila ang status quo? They, and I count myself among them, do want change. They want to change the palace occupant. They want to change the cabinet. They want to to revamp Comelec. They want to reform the military. They want all sorts of changes. Nobody wants status quo, nor can anybody preserve it. Change happens whether we like it or not. But all of us want the kind of changes that agree with our deeply held beliefs.</p>
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		<title>By: DonQ</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/25/marching-orders/comment-page-2/#comment-16874</link>
		<dc:creator>DonQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>saw the so-called sigaw ng bayan site. it does show 370,000+ hits in 3 weeks. not bad for a political website.

regarding the 9,000,000 hits, and using jumper&#039;s argument in number 7, maybe mr. cunanan did foresee it as a post-dated reading. who knows?

and as for the people&#039;s initiative and charter change, i guess i&#039;m just keeping an open mind. it isn&#039;t a sin, after all, for people to advocate their thoughts and feelings regarding our government, for as long as we don&#039;t say anything that may incite or promote rebellion among our fellow citizens.

we don&#039;t want to get in trouble with the government and get detained now, do we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saw the so-called sigaw ng bayan site. it does show 370,000+ hits in 3 weeks. not bad for a political website.</p>
<p>regarding the 9,000,000 hits, and using jumper&#8217;s argument in number 7, maybe mr. cunanan did foresee it as a post-dated reading. who knows?</p>
<p>and as for the people&#8217;s initiative and charter change, i guess i&#8217;m just keeping an open mind. it isn&#8217;t a sin, after all, for people to advocate their thoughts and feelings regarding our government, for as long as we don&#8217;t say anything that may incite or promote rebellion among our fellow citizens.</p>
<p>we don&#8217;t want to get in trouble with the government and get detained now, do we?</p>
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		<title>By: jmakabayan</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/25/marching-orders/comment-page-2/#comment-16755</link>
		<dc:creator>jmakabayan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 04:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#43 a de brux,

I agree with you and Phil that respect for the constitution and the laws is due from every citizen specially government officials. I call it citizenhood, being aware, involved and even proud to be a Filipino citizen. 

By the way de Quiroz&#039;s column today, &quot; Yet again, alternatives&quot; should encourage initiatives to direct to the right alternatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#43 a de brux,</p>
<p>I agree with you and Phil that respect for the constitution and the laws is due from every citizen specially government officials. I call it citizenhood, being aware, involved and even proud to be a Filipino citizen. </p>
<p>By the way de Quiroz&#8217;s column today, &#8221; Yet again, alternatives&#8221; should encourage initiatives to direct to the right alternatives.</p>
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