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		<title>By: Bilibidboy</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/24/hecklers-and-officials/comment-page-1/#comment-16750</link>
		<dc:creator>Bilibidboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Manolo,
Gloria deserves to be heckled, buti na lang walang kamatis, patatas, kalabasa, talong, itlog at lababo ang naibato sa kanya.
Ignoring the sentiments of the people is the height of being kapalmuks! And now her Defense Minister Mike Defensor obliges us to respect her? 
Isa lang masasabi ko: nothing lasts forever and a day of reckoning usually comes around----sooner than you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Manolo,<br />
Gloria deserves to be heckled, buti na lang walang kamatis, patatas, kalabasa, talong, itlog at lababo ang naibato sa kanya.<br />
Ignoring the sentiments of the people is the height of being kapalmuks! And now her Defense Minister Mike Defensor obliges us to respect her?<br />
Isa lang masasabi ko: nothing lasts forever and a day of reckoning usually comes around&#8212;-sooner than you think.</p>
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		<title>By: sleeping with who</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/24/hecklers-and-officials/comment-page-1/#comment-16556</link>
		<dc:creator>sleeping with who</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heckling the president, What you say the Americans are good they arrested and charged the heckler when the Chinese Premier was there..

And the Americans are supporting the kings actions in Nepal so as the communists will not get any power..

The may have stopped military aid but they are supporting him read the snub article above..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heckling the president, What you say the Americans are good they arrested and charged the heckler when the Chinese Premier was there..</p>
<p>And the Americans are supporting the kings actions in Nepal so as the communists will not get any power..</p>
<p>The may have stopped military aid but they are supporting him read the snub article above..</p>
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		<title>By: sleeping with who</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/24/hecklers-and-officials/comment-page-1/#comment-16555</link>
		<dc:creator>sleeping with who</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 09:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Rummel Pinera 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations

Nepal is not a country part of the Commonwealth of nations. But it is supplied resources from this group to help its people.

Israel is not a Member either.

But Palestine has requested and can be a member..

King snubs British Article...
http://www.newkerala.com/news2.php?action=fullnews&amp;id=30302

I do not agree with the kings actions but i think trying to defame other groups is not fair.. 

The British even stopped military assistance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Rummel Pinera </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Nations</a></p>
<p>Nepal is not a country part of the Commonwealth of nations. But it is supplied resources from this group to help its people.</p>
<p>Israel is not a Member either.</p>
<p>But Palestine has requested and can be a member..</p>
<p>King snubs British Article&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://www.newkerala.com/news2.php?action=fullnews&#038;id=30302" rel="nofollow">http://www.newkerala.com/news2.php?action=fullnews&#038;id=30302</a></p>
<p>I do not agree with the kings actions but i think trying to defame other groups is not fair.. </p>
<p>The British even stopped military assistance.</p>
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		<title>By: jinx</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/24/hecklers-and-officials/comment-page-1/#comment-16536</link>
		<dc:creator>jinx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Apr 2006 03:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>25 April 2006

Heckling the president, the US, with pres bush always being hecled by the americans, but what do they do??? NADA,  the US government doesn&#039;t do anything, because they now it is part of the US democarcy, while here in the Philippines, its a crime to heckle the (illegitimate) president.

Mike defensor is wrong to say that we should give respect to the (illegitimate) president??? why should he force us to respect gloria???he claims that that heckling during marcos years of martial law was different, heck its alot different, gloria lied, cheated and stole her presidency while marcos did not (forgive me on this).  

Another thing, ZUL (of Voltes V) aka raul gonzales, under his DOJ filed rebellion charges on 46 individuals, why not file a case against those who did the same thing in 2000 and 2001, to include ZUL, her boss, mike, angie reyes, isama nyo na rin si cory, fast eddie ramos, tito guingona etc... what do they call that, they committed a conspiracy to remove the duly elected president in 2001.

jinx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>25 April 2006</p>
<p>Heckling the president, the US, with pres bush always being hecled by the americans, but what do they do??? NADA,  the US government doesn&#8217;t do anything, because they now it is part of the US democarcy, while here in the Philippines, its a crime to heckle the (illegitimate) president.</p>
<p>Mike defensor is wrong to say that we should give respect to the (illegitimate) president??? why should he force us to respect gloria???he claims that that heckling during marcos years of martial law was different, heck its alot different, gloria lied, cheated and stole her presidency while marcos did not (forgive me on this).  </p>
<p>Another thing, ZUL (of Voltes V) aka raul gonzales, under his DOJ filed rebellion charges on 46 individuals, why not file a case against those who did the same thing in 2000 and 2001, to include ZUL, her boss, mike, angie reyes, isama nyo na rin si cory, fast eddie ramos, tito guingona etc&#8230; what do they call that, they committed a conspiracy to remove the duly elected president in 2001.</p>
<p>jinx</p>
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		<title>By: Curious</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/24/hecklers-and-officials/comment-page-1/#comment-16525</link>
		<dc:creator>Curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MLQ3, do you have any political ambitions, i.e., to run for a government office?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MLQ3, do you have any political ambitions, i.e., to run for a government office?</p>
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		<title>By: vic</title>
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		<dc:creator>vic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 22:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my experience, I don&#039;t find heckling anyone (a head of govt. for the matter) is an effective way of protest.  Take a look at the result-people are split. Some agree, some don&#039;t.  The heckler will be in the spotlight for a little while, but the issue raised in no longer stranger or new.  Many won&#039;t remember what was it all about except the &quot;heckling&quot;. We had two Heckler extra-ordinaire here in our Parliament.  One was member of an opposition who heckled just about anyone, including the late Pres. Reagan during his State Visit.  Eventually the real him (the heckler MP) exposed when he was convicted for stealing a 50 grand ring in an auction a few years back (for his same sex partner) and his attemp to return to political life last election failed.  The Other a lady MP, a member a former government, whom the current U.S. President tried to get away with by not addresing the Parliament during his State Visit.  She too was kicked by her own party. Two Great Hecklers. Both Brilliant Lawmakers. In the end, I would say Heckling is not my Forte.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my experience, I don&#8217;t find heckling anyone (a head of govt. for the matter) is an effective way of protest.  Take a look at the result-people are split. Some agree, some don&#8217;t.  The heckler will be in the spotlight for a little while, but the issue raised in no longer stranger or new.  Many won&#8217;t remember what was it all about except the &#8220;heckling&#8221;. We had two Heckler extra-ordinaire here in our Parliament.  One was member of an opposition who heckled just about anyone, including the late Pres. Reagan during his State Visit.  Eventually the real him (the heckler MP) exposed when he was convicted for stealing a 50 grand ring in an auction a few years back (for his same sex partner) and his attemp to return to political life last election failed.  The Other a lady MP, a member a former government, whom the current U.S. President tried to get away with by not addresing the Parliament during his State Visit.  She too was kicked by her own party. Two Great Hecklers. Both Brilliant Lawmakers. In the end, I would say Heckling is not my Forte.</p>
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		<title>By: cvj</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/24/hecklers-and-officials/comment-page-1/#comment-16508</link>
		<dc:creator>cvj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 15:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wince whenever talk of a &#039;Council of Elders&#039; is brought up.  Politically speaking, we no longer have any elders to speak of.  Unfortunately, when it comes to leadership, there is no shortcut to relieving the backlog and growing a fresh new crop. (An abrupt takeover by the younger generation would lead to a &#039;Lord of the Flies&#039; situation similar to what happened during the Philippine Revolution with Aguinaldo and the bunch.) That is why it&#039;s important not to make things worse by allowing another bottleneck at the top. Imagine if Arroyo or her replacement succeeds in doing a Marcos, the 20 year lag in the cycle of leaders that you describe could eventually stretch to 40.  I&#039;m hoping our generation is able to sort this out, so the next one would be free to move on to more productive matters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wince whenever talk of a &#8216;Council of Elders&#8217; is brought up.  Politically speaking, we no longer have any elders to speak of.  Unfortunately, when it comes to leadership, there is no shortcut to relieving the backlog and growing a fresh new crop. (An abrupt takeover by the younger generation would lead to a &#8216;Lord of the Flies&#8217; situation similar to what happened during the Philippine Revolution with Aguinaldo and the bunch.) That is why it&#8217;s important not to make things worse by allowing another bottleneck at the top. Imagine if Arroyo or her replacement succeeds in doing a Marcos, the 20 year lag in the cycle of leaders that you describe could eventually stretch to 40.  I&#8217;m hoping our generation is able to sort this out, so the next one would be free to move on to more productive matters.</p>
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		<title>By: a de brux</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/24/hecklers-and-officials/comment-page-1/#comment-16504</link>
		<dc:creator>a de brux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 11:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MLQ3,

Re Hecklers, politicians and Leandro Coronel&#039;s column:

Maria Theresa Pangilinan, frankly, couldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t have done a better job of teaching a few people real manners on the question of courage in public. Should we consider that a Ã¢â‚¬Å“breach of courtesyÃ¢â‚¬Â was committed indeed and if we really want to be sticklers for social niceties, we could say that the Ã¢â‚¬Å“breach of courtesyÃ¢â‚¬Â was committed against a few dissenting members of the graduating class but theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ll get over it, theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re youngÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ 

On the other hand, Gloria Macapagal should consider herself lucky that Maria TheresaÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s heckling was short-lived (her bodyguards saved her from further unpleasantness). Anyway, Macapagal had it coming because she herself is one persona who has no qualms about being totally foul and discourteous to other people particlulary in full public view when she shows off her inherent crass, spoiled-brat behaviour. (Remember how she berated a lady journalist once, Ms Panganiban-Perez I believe is her name; Gloria was so foul too to poor Acsa Ramirez, she never apologized to her nor expressed remorse for having been simply disgustingly foul and horrid to her, etc.)

To me, Gloria is one person who is utterly devoid of class. When she was growing up (did she ever grow UP?), she probably thought that being tagged a Ã¢â‚¬Å“SNOBÃ¢â‚¬Â was a compliment. Hah! She wouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t know now, would she that Ã¢â‚¬Å“SNOBÃ¢â‚¬Â means Ã¢â‚¬Å“sine nobilitateÃ¢â‚¬Â, Ã¢â‚¬Å“sans noblesseÃ¢â‚¬Â, without nobility in other words, IGNOBLE!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MLQ3,</p>
<p>Re Hecklers, politicians and Leandro Coronel&#8217;s column:</p>
<p>Maria Theresa Pangilinan, frankly, couldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t have done a better job of teaching a few people real manners on the question of courage in public. Should we consider that a Ã¢â‚¬Å“breach of courtesyÃ¢â‚¬Â was committed indeed and if we really want to be sticklers for social niceties, we could say that the Ã¢â‚¬Å“breach of courtesyÃ¢â‚¬Â was committed against a few dissenting members of the graduating class but theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢ll get over it, theyÃ¢â‚¬â„¢re youngÃ¢â‚¬Â¦ </p>
<p>On the other hand, Gloria Macapagal should consider herself lucky that Maria TheresaÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s heckling was short-lived (her bodyguards saved her from further unpleasantness). Anyway, Macapagal had it coming because she herself is one persona who has no qualms about being totally foul and discourteous to other people particlulary in full public view when she shows off her inherent crass, spoiled-brat behaviour. (Remember how she berated a lady journalist once, Ms Panganiban-Perez I believe is her name; Gloria was so foul too to poor Acsa Ramirez, she never apologized to her nor expressed remorse for having been simply disgustingly foul and horrid to her, etc.)</p>
<p>To me, Gloria is one person who is utterly devoid of class. When she was growing up (did she ever grow UP?), she probably thought that being tagged a Ã¢â‚¬Å“SNOBÃ¢â‚¬Â was a compliment. Hah! She wouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t know now, would she that Ã¢â‚¬Å“SNOBÃ¢â‚¬Â means Ã¢â‚¬Å“sine nobilitateÃ¢â‚¬Â, Ã¢â‚¬Å“sans noblesseÃ¢â‚¬Â, without nobility in other words, IGNOBLE!</p>
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		<title>By: RUMMEL PINERA</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUMMEL PINERA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Apr 2006 02:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe Nepal is a member-country of the British Commonwealth of Nations. The stable democracies of the British Commonwealth of Nations, particularly Britain and Israel, should call upon King Gyrendera of Nepal to give way to democracy. That means King Gyrendera should bring back democratic representation in Nepal. But it would be much, much better if King Gyrendera would be called upon by the stable democracies of the world to just simply abolish the monarchial system in Nepal, so that Nepal would become a stable republic. It would be better if the Ã¢â‚¬Å“neo-consÃ¢â‚¬Â in the U.S. can add their voices to the international call for King Gyrenera to give way to democracy in Nepal. Let Nepal become a democracy! Let there be a peaceful and lawful process of democratization in Nepal! 

The Filipino progressives should call upon every Nepalese or Indian embassy throughout the world to inform the current king of Nepal that itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s time for him to give way to democracy in Nepal. The king of Nepal would become truly heroic if he will just abdicate from his throne and allow Nepal to become a real democratic republic. The wise citizens of this planet should give full support, whether financial or moral support, to the Nepalese peopleÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s peaceful and legal struggle to democratize Nepal. 

The liberals of the world must think now if monarchism, even the limited one, is still suitable to our current world. My stand on this issue is that all monarchies in the world should be peacefully and legally abolished. ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s political abrogationism. Political abrogationism is simply the advocacy of
peaceful and legal abolition of all dictatorships, monarchial reigns
and despotic regimes all over the world. Such advocacy also preaches
that every country, every social organization and every culture in
our world should embrace real and moral democracy through peaceful
and legal means. I have established a Ã¢â‚¬Å“study circleÃ¢â‚¬Â for the purpose
of promoting this cause here in our country. The study circle is called
the League of Political Abrogationes. We have a web page wherein
you can study the basic ideals of political abrogationism. Just type the word Ã¢â‚¬Å“political abrogationismÃ¢â‚¬Â inside any available internet search box that is in front of you. Or you can simply type this and click: http://www.geocities.com/esabon/POLITICAL_ABROGATIONERS.html .
I really hope that you can find time to read the basic ideals of
political abrogationism. I know that you are a nice intellectual
who can help us in how to gain adherents for our cause. The cause of
political abrogationism should become an international one. Please help
us in gaining international support for our cause. This
socio-political cause is open to both conservatives and liberals.
Namaste! I wish all of you here at this forum the real happiness in
this world.

Sincerely,

Rummel Pinera</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe Nepal is a member-country of the British Commonwealth of Nations. The stable democracies of the British Commonwealth of Nations, particularly Britain and Israel, should call upon King Gyrendera of Nepal to give way to democracy. That means King Gyrendera should bring back democratic representation in Nepal. But it would be much, much better if King Gyrendera would be called upon by the stable democracies of the world to just simply abolish the monarchial system in Nepal, so that Nepal would become a stable republic. It would be better if the Ã¢â‚¬Å“neo-consÃ¢â‚¬Â in the U.S. can add their voices to the international call for King Gyrenera to give way to democracy in Nepal. Let Nepal become a democracy! Let there be a peaceful and lawful process of democratization in Nepal! </p>
<p>The Filipino progressives should call upon every Nepalese or Indian embassy throughout the world to inform the current king of Nepal that itÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s time for him to give way to democracy in Nepal. The king of Nepal would become truly heroic if he will just abdicate from his throne and allow Nepal to become a real democratic republic. The wise citizens of this planet should give full support, whether financial or moral support, to the Nepalese peopleÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s peaceful and legal struggle to democratize Nepal. </p>
<p>The liberals of the world must think now if monarchism, even the limited one, is still suitable to our current world. My stand on this issue is that all monarchies in the world should be peacefully and legally abolished. ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s political abrogationism. Political abrogationism is simply the advocacy of<br />
peaceful and legal abolition of all dictatorships, monarchial reigns<br />
and despotic regimes all over the world. Such advocacy also preaches<br />
that every country, every social organization and every culture in<br />
our world should embrace real and moral democracy through peaceful<br />
and legal means. I have established a Ã¢â‚¬Å“study circleÃ¢â‚¬Â for the purpose<br />
of promoting this cause here in our country. The study circle is called<br />
the League of Political Abrogationes. We have a web page wherein<br />
you can study the basic ideals of political abrogationism. Just type the word Ã¢â‚¬Å“political abrogationismÃ¢â‚¬Â inside any available internet search box that is in front of you. Or you can simply type this and click: <a href="http://www.geocities.com/esabon/POLITICAL_ABROGATIONERS.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.geocities.com/esabon/POLITICAL_ABROGATIONERS.html</a> .<br />
I really hope that you can find time to read the basic ideals of<br />
political abrogationism. I know that you are a nice intellectual<br />
who can help us in how to gain adherents for our cause. The cause of<br />
political abrogationism should become an international one. Please help<br />
us in gaining international support for our cause. This<br />
socio-political cause is open to both conservatives and liberals.<br />
Namaste! I wish all of you here at this forum the real happiness in<br />
this world.</p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>Rummel Pinera</p>
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