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		<title>By: mortgage refinance</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/20/the-patriotism-of-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-200925</link>
		<dc:creator>mortgage refinance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 06:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Si eres cualquier cosa como mÃƒÂ­, odias el pensamiento del gasto cuarenta horas a la semana en un trabajo del punto muerto. Las luces fluorescentes de zumbido, la gerencia idiota, el hecho de que necesitas despertar doloroso temprano - el ÃƒÂºnico alto punto son que viene viernes cada semana. Dije tan a me, allÃƒÂ­ me consigo ser una manera mejor. Ã‚Â¡Una cierta manera de hacer el dinero que me deja fijar mis propias horas y hacer una cantidad cÃƒÂ³moda del dinero!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Si eres cualquier cosa como mÃƒÂ­, odias el pensamiento del gasto cuarenta horas a la semana en un trabajo del punto muerto. Las luces fluorescentes de zumbido, la gerencia idiota, el hecho de que necesitas despertar doloroso temprano &#8211; el ÃƒÂºnico alto punto son que viene viernes cada semana. Dije tan a me, allÃƒÂ­ me consigo ser una manera mejor. Ã‚Â¡Una cierta manera de hacer el dinero que me deja fijar mis propias horas y hacer una cantidad cÃƒÂ³moda del dinero!</p>
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		<title>By: pingkian</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/20/the-patriotism-of-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-16233</link>
		<dc:creator>pingkian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 04:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes rego, we all know what happened during PP1. I was there. Marcos was even more powerful then than GLORIA. The gathering at EDSA in February 22, 1986 started very small, even fewer than five thousand (5,000), the few who first responded to Late Cardinal SinÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s and Butz Aquino call came in small groups. The crowd only started to swell in late afternoon to early evening, when the big organized groups marching from Morayta to Cubao to Santolan, others came from Guadalupe and others from Ortigas arrived, but Marcos didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t order his police and military to disperse us right there and then. The crowd reached to around a million people on the 23rd of February Ã¢â‚¬Ëœ86. Marcos was caught unprepared to handle the situation. Marcos, his police and military Generals even have to truck and bus in soldiers and the police and to send tanks from the provinces to quell and disperse the people, but was unwilling to spill blood. We were more determined and militant then and we were prepared to hang tough and even die. The rest were history. 

GLORIA and her ilk have the benefit of hindsight and have learned well from them. She wouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t allow our disgust, frustrations, and anger to implode. Hence, she issued CPR Ã¢â‚¬â€œ block all entry and exit points, do not issue rally permits, disperse rallies as early as possible, arrest people who would persist. She may allow some rallies, but they have to be dispersed before night fall. She wants to project that sheÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s in control. She wants to us to believe that we are no match to her and that there are no alternative to her. She wants us to surrender to her whims and to move on. Hey guys, SHEÃ¢â‚¬â„¢S ROBBING US OF OUR HOPE and OUR FUTURE. But I firmly believe that we will overcome; GLORIA will be deposed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes rego, we all know what happened during PP1. I was there. Marcos was even more powerful then than GLORIA. The gathering at EDSA in February 22, 1986 started very small, even fewer than five thousand (5,000), the few who first responded to Late Cardinal SinÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s and Butz Aquino call came in small groups. The crowd only started to swell in late afternoon to early evening, when the big organized groups marching from Morayta to Cubao to Santolan, others came from Guadalupe and others from Ortigas arrived, but Marcos didnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t order his police and military to disperse us right there and then. The crowd reached to around a million people on the 23rd of February Ã¢â‚¬Ëœ86. Marcos was caught unprepared to handle the situation. Marcos, his police and military Generals even have to truck and bus in soldiers and the police and to send tanks from the provinces to quell and disperse the people, but was unwilling to spill blood. We were more determined and militant then and we were prepared to hang tough and even die. The rest were history. </p>
<p>GLORIA and her ilk have the benefit of hindsight and have learned well from them. She wouldnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t allow our disgust, frustrations, and anger to implode. Hence, she issued CPR Ã¢â‚¬â€œ block all entry and exit points, do not issue rally permits, disperse rallies as early as possible, arrest people who would persist. She may allow some rallies, but they have to be dispersed before night fall. She wants to project that sheÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s in control. She wants to us to believe that we are no match to her and that there are no alternative to her. She wants us to surrender to her whims and to move on. Hey guys, SHEÃ¢â‚¬â„¢S ROBBING US OF OUR HOPE and OUR FUTURE. But I firmly believe that we will overcome; GLORIA will be deposed.</p>
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		<title>By: rego</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/20/the-patriotism-of-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-16223</link>
		<dc:creator>rego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 23:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But what seems to be the main problem? The answer is CPR (rallies are being dispersed and protesters are being blocked even before they can enter Metro Manila. GLORIA and her apologist have learned better than us from previous People Power (EDSA 1, 2 &amp; 3). I still believe, that the legitimacy of GLORIA will not be resolved by purely legal or judicial processes. The opposition is still divided, but I believe this can be resolved by a snap election as it should be. An impeachment process may help, but it can only succeed by a STRONG public pressure. Aside from impeachment, other pending issues in the SC (PeopleÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Initiative/Charter Change) if handled properly, can serve as triggers for as successful people power.&quot;

Oh  common, pingkian! we all know that that during peopel power I, Marcos has all the power to disperes the crowd. And its stronger and has more teeth than CPR. But People power happen. WWhen will you ever accept the reality that people doesn&#039;t want to udo Peopel Power anymore to remove the president? And that is the only reason why Mrs Arroyo is still in power until now. Kung milyon milyon talga ng tao na dumagsa sa EDSA. May magagw ba ang CPR ni Mrs Arroyo. Effective lang ang CPR sa mga kokonting crowd, pero kung yung mag binabanggit mong mga grupo ay talagnag may kakayanan na humakaot ng milyong milyong tao sa kalsada may maggawa ba ang CPR, kaya ba ng PNP ang na idisperse ang milyong milyong tao? Wala ng ang people power! kaya gawan na lang nag paraan na matuloy ang impeachment. After all yan naman talaga ang nakasasaad sa saligang batas eh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But what seems to be the main problem? The answer is CPR (rallies are being dispersed and protesters are being blocked even before they can enter Metro Manila. GLORIA and her apologist have learned better than us from previous People Power (EDSA 1, 2 &amp; 3). I still believe, that the legitimacy of GLORIA will not be resolved by purely legal or judicial processes. The opposition is still divided, but I believe this can be resolved by a snap election as it should be. An impeachment process may help, but it can only succeed by a STRONG public pressure. Aside from impeachment, other pending issues in the SC (PeopleÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Initiative/Charter Change) if handled properly, can serve as triggers for as successful people power.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh  common, pingkian! we all know that that during peopel power I, Marcos has all the power to disperes the crowd. And its stronger and has more teeth than CPR. But People power happen. WWhen will you ever accept the reality that people doesn&#8217;t want to udo Peopel Power anymore to remove the president? And that is the only reason why Mrs Arroyo is still in power until now. Kung milyon milyon talga ng tao na dumagsa sa EDSA. May magagw ba ang CPR ni Mrs Arroyo. Effective lang ang CPR sa mga kokonting crowd, pero kung yung mag binabanggit mong mga grupo ay talagnag may kakayanan na humakaot ng milyong milyong tao sa kalsada may maggawa ba ang CPR, kaya ba ng PNP ang na idisperse ang milyong milyong tao? Wala ng ang people power! kaya gawan na lang nag paraan na matuloy ang impeachment. After all yan naman talaga ang nakasasaad sa saligang batas eh.</p>
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		<title>By: a de brux</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/20/the-patriotism-of-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-16197</link>
		<dc:creator>a de brux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 16:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil,

Ugh! 

If ever blogging in the Philippines becomes verbotten, Gloria will have serious trouble on her hands which would come not only from bloggers in Pinas but from millions of bloggers the world over - American bloggers alone will have the capacity to blog her to the ground or &quot;bloguillotinize&quot; her - Heheh!

Ask MLQ3 how he would feel if all of a sudden, he was told that he couldn&#039;t blog anymore! SacrÃƒÂ© de plus sacrÃƒÂ© des sacrÃƒÂ© bleus!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,</p>
<p>Ugh! </p>
<p>If ever blogging in the Philippines becomes verbotten, Gloria will have serious trouble on her hands which would come not only from bloggers in Pinas but from millions of bloggers the world over &#8211; American bloggers alone will have the capacity to blog her to the ground or &#8220;bloguillotinize&#8221; her &#8211; Heheh!</p>
<p>Ask MLQ3 how he would feel if all of a sudden, he was told that he couldn&#8217;t blog anymore! SacrÃƒÂ© de plus sacrÃƒÂ© des sacrÃƒÂ© bleus!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: pingkian</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/20/the-patriotism-of-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-16193</link>
		<dc:creator>pingkian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 14:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ã¢â‚¬Å“Could blogging be one of the reasons why there isnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t much middle class attendance in street protests anymore?Ã¢â‚¬Â

Perhaps for some. However, many active bloggers are likewise active in street protest and political organizing and mobilization. I believe that organized groups/coalitions like B&amp;W (Bisig, Akbayan, Partidong Manggagawa, Sanlakas, Pandayan, SD and Rejectionist), the BAYAN-GSM/KMLG/PMAP-UMDJ-FPJMP have the capacity to mobilize at least 70,000 people in less than a week notice. This could swell to 200,000 to 500,000 on the second day and up to more than a million on the third day with enough funding and active support of religious groups like the Catholic Church and JIL political parties like UNO, PMP, PDP-Laban, Be not Afraid Movement, and big blocks in LP, NP, and LDP, and the unorganized or unaffiliated middle class. A critical segment in the military is waiting for clear signals from the people for them to move. I also think that INC and El Shaddai can be swayed to our side to support the Gloria Resign or Step Down movement. There is existing/ongoing communication among all of these groups, though coordination and harmonizing campaign activities are still much to be desired. The middle class are restive and some are apolitical, but they are watching. They just canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t risk joining rallies without certain level of confidence that people power can succeed. 

But what seems to be the main problem? The answer is CPR (rallies are being dispersed and protesters are being blocked even before they can enter Metro Manila. GLORIA and her apologist have learned better than us from previous People Power (EDSA 1, 2 &amp; 3). I still believe, that the legitimacy of GLORIA will not be resolved by purely legal or judicial processes. The opposition is still divided, but I believe this can be resolved by a snap election as it should be. An impeachment process may help, but it can only succeed by a STRONG public pressure. Aside from impeachment, other pending issues in the SC (PeopleÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Initiative/Charter Change) if handled properly, can serve as triggers for as successful people power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ã¢â‚¬Å“Could blogging be one of the reasons why there isnÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t much middle class attendance in street protests anymore?Ã¢â‚¬Â</p>
<p>Perhaps for some. However, many active bloggers are likewise active in street protest and political organizing and mobilization. I believe that organized groups/coalitions like B&amp;W (Bisig, Akbayan, Partidong Manggagawa, Sanlakas, Pandayan, SD and Rejectionist), the BAYAN-GSM/KMLG/PMAP-UMDJ-FPJMP have the capacity to mobilize at least 70,000 people in less than a week notice. This could swell to 200,000 to 500,000 on the second day and up to more than a million on the third day with enough funding and active support of religious groups like the Catholic Church and JIL political parties like UNO, PMP, PDP-Laban, Be not Afraid Movement, and big blocks in LP, NP, and LDP, and the unorganized or unaffiliated middle class. A critical segment in the military is waiting for clear signals from the people for them to move. I also think that INC and El Shaddai can be swayed to our side to support the Gloria Resign or Step Down movement. There is existing/ongoing communication among all of these groups, though coordination and harmonizing campaign activities are still much to be desired. The middle class are restive and some are apolitical, but they are watching. They just canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t risk joining rallies without certain level of confidence that people power can succeed. </p>
<p>But what seems to be the main problem? The answer is CPR (rallies are being dispersed and protesters are being blocked even before they can enter Metro Manila. GLORIA and her apologist have learned better than us from previous People Power (EDSA 1, 2 &amp; 3). I still believe, that the legitimacy of GLORIA will not be resolved by purely legal or judicial processes. The opposition is still divided, but I believe this can be resolved by a snap election as it should be. An impeachment process may help, but it can only succeed by a STRONG public pressure. Aside from impeachment, other pending issues in the SC (PeopleÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Initiative/Charter Change) if handled properly, can serve as triggers for as successful people power.</p>
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		<title>By: rego</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/20/the-patriotism-of-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-16185</link>
		<dc:creator>rego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 12:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I suppose the so-called opposing side wishes to tickle pink the likes of the Ã¢â‚¬Å“inactiveÃ¢â‚¬Â middle class, to get them rolling into action before they die of extreme boredom or lack of whatever&quot;


Well let them pay they consequneces of their actions or lack of it. Let them suffer or die of extreme boredom! If that whats they deserve....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I suppose the so-called opposing side wishes to tickle pink the likes of the Ã¢â‚¬Å“inactiveÃ¢â‚¬Â middle class, to get them rolling into action before they die of extreme boredom or lack of whatever&#8221;</p>
<p>Well let them pay they consequneces of their actions or lack of it. Let them suffer or die of extreme boredom! If that whats they deserve&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Cruz</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/20/the-patriotism-of-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-16177</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Cruz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna,

Re your Comment #14,it&#039;s nice to know we&#039;re on the same wavelength on &quot;blogging&#039;s possible lulling effect&quot;. 

But, of course, the exchange of ideas and opinions through blogging still serves a great purpose. Can you imagine if all of a sudden for whatever reason blogging is no longer allowed?! We&#039;d be back in the streets!  Hmm...that would not be good for this administration, would it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna,</p>
<p>Re your Comment #14,it&#8217;s nice to know we&#8217;re on the same wavelength on &#8220;blogging&#8217;s possible lulling effect&#8221;. </p>
<p>But, of course, the exchange of ideas and opinions through blogging still serves a great purpose. Can you imagine if all of a sudden for whatever reason blogging is no longer allowed?! We&#8217;d be back in the streets!  Hmm&#8230;that would not be good for this administration, would it?</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Garcia</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/20/the-patriotism-of-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-16176</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen to that Anna!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen to that Anna!</p>
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		<title>By: a de brux</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/20/the-patriotism-of-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-16171</link>
		<dc:creator>a de brux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karl,

The Tanadas are some of the politicians who do not exist merely for political survival but for a noble purpose or a moral motive: serve the nation and serve it well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl,</p>
<p>The Tanadas are some of the politicians who do not exist merely for political survival but for a noble purpose or a moral motive: serve the nation and serve it well.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Garcia</title>
		<link>http://www.quezon.ph/2006/04/20/the-patriotism-of-the-family/comment-page-1/#comment-16168</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Garcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 09:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re my comment 16...
I forgot to erase the last part kaya ang weird ng dulo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re my comment 16&#8230;<br />
I forgot to erase the last part kaya ang weird ng dulo</p>
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