Political ostracism in Thailand

The Manila Times headline says it all: New war erupts over assemblies. Davaotoday.com has a similar report, based on local allegations: Arroyo Scored for “Buying” Signatures in Cha-Cha Drive; DILG, Comelec Wash Hands. The Daily Tribune screams Poll officers bribed to “verify” Cha-cha signatures. There are pluses and minuses aplenty. The Inquirer reports, Ramos supports signature campaign, the Manila Standard-Today says FVR supports initiative: both say Ramos is behind the people’s initiative effort in principle but is unhappy with the way the Palace refuses to take center stage (the former president is still prickly: Walk the talk, Ramos tells Arroyo, according to Malaya). Senator Santiago goes on “indefinite sick leave” amidst speculation the Palace wants her to disown her having previously derailed the Pirma scheme during Ramos’s presidency. And in Nueva Vizcaya, Crop planting postpones ChaCha drive.

Sad, even scandalous, news: Because of collapsed ceiling: Airport’s Cusi postpones March 31 opening of NAIA 3. See also, Terminal 3 ceiling falls; test run scrapped. At least no one was hurt and the airport wasn’t in operation when the accident happened.

An interesting article: 1935 law blocks drive against colorum buses. Authorities want to limit the number of buses on Edsa to about 1,000. The present law covering bus franchises allows franchise owners to sub-let their franchises, so to speak, to other bus owners. Personally, while i’m all for capitalism, I’ve always thought our public transport represents free enterprise at its worst: chaotic, unregulated, unresponsive, and dangerous. Buses, and jeepneys (which should really be replaced by more modern vehicles) should be either a state or local government monopoly.

The Nation of Thailand today has Society is the loser in Thaksin’s high-stakes gamble and Silom Soi 5 is only the tip of the iceberg: Perhaps Thaksin will finally have a clue about public sentiment, now that citizens are confronting him in public. The latter article seems to echo points raised by Randy David:

Is it all coming down to social coercion? After weeks of vociferous calls by tens of thousands for Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra to “Get Out!”, the first time he appeared publicly rattled was yesterday, when, lunching at a food court in Silom Soi 5, he came face to face with three – yes, three – hostile shopkeepers. The well-dressed but stern-looking ladies shouted the same words that have been the hallmark of the present campaign for his resignation, and the effect was surprising. Thaksin looked stunned, then turned a bit pale. He cancelled plans to shop in that area and, whether or not it had anything to do with the incident, abruptly decided to fly back to Chiang Mai, saying he needed a break.

Throughout his present crisis, the prime minister has spent much of his time in his personal comfort zones. While Thai Rak Thai political rallies, with enthusiastic supporters shouting “Go, Thaksin, Go!” can be very soothing, they can also delude him. His recent belligerent speeches have not shown Thaksin to be aware of how widespread public sentiment against him has become. He has described protesters surrounding Government House as having been organised or being stupid “mobs” who plan, plot and conspire.

When confronted with an impromptu reaction like those of the three lady shopkeepers’ when they saw him, Thaksin deemed genuinely taken aback. Shoppers who shouted back their support helped very little, and one reason could be his wife and children experiencing a similar ordeal at The Emporium recently; if the family considered that a one-off incident, then Thaksin’s first-hand experience yesterday must have changed that assumption. Those opposed to his rule seem to have found a new way to deal with what they consider his stubbornness: “Okay, if you think you can handle the political pressure, let’s see how well you cope with social measures.”

In the punditocracy, Scott Mcmillan writing in Slate reports on the first free parliamentary election in the Ukraine since their “Orange Revolution.” A familiar story: the depression and dissatisfaction that comes in the wake of People Power; and yet, the genuine restoration of freedom that shouldn’t be overlooked.

Filomeno Sta. Ana III writes in BusinessWorld that the fight against the President will be a long, drawn-out struggle.

Tony Abaya is firmly for extraconstitutional solutions -apparently his objection to past ones were that they included socialists and communists.

Juan Mercado bats for more writers to focus on science and technology (“S&T”). It’s not easy; a decade ago I did one on historical S&T and it was tough to do.

In the blogosphere, Mediashift discusses how, going into the 2006 campaign in the USA, email remains the most effective means for political action online, while blogs appeal mainly to the converted. As one expert he interviewed put it,

“The political blogs we read will echo the moves of campaigners and big [email] lists: sometimes to amplify a campaign message, sometimes to jam it with nasty feedback,” Cornfield told me via email. “Bear in mind that while bloggers get most of the media attention, to campaigners the blogosphere contains a much smaller, if more active, population than the population which receives campaign emails. Email remains the main channel for online politics.”

Online Journalism Review describes how Blogburst is trying to syndicate blog content for newspapers.

BuzzMachine points to a speech by the editor of The Guardian newspaper (“Newspapers in the age of blogs”), explaining how newspapers should adapt to blogs and online readers. He (BuzzMachine, that is), also presents this great description of what a blog fundamentally is and requires:

What is a blog? Well, there’s the most frequently asked question of the age. But the answer has nothing to do with the tools and technology that make this phenomenon possible. No, it’s quite simple, actually: a blog is a person in conversation. In this age when every message is manufactured, metered, spun, filtered, and flacked, that is precisely what makes blogs so refreshing: their humanity.

Cyberbaguioboy weighs in with his views from a Philippine journalist’s perspective.

Bloggers weigh in on the people’s initiative: Brains and Hands, as well as Alleba Politics don’t necessarily reject the idea of a people’s initiative, but wonder if a government-initiated one can be properly considered as coming from the people.

Reader vic has posted his questions concerning the version of parliamentary government proposed by the Palace. He lives in Canada, which has a functioning parliamentary system, and wonders why the Palace version doesn’t seem up to par.

Connie Veneracion debuts on Global Voices Online. The other regular Philippine observer there is Jose Manuel Tesoro who points to a discussion on rent control in Another Hundred Years Hence.

The Idiot Board describes crowd behavior in Iloilo Bacolod.

My Life as a Nursing Student discovers a Filipino blog on theology: Philippine Theo Law Gee.

Blag! has a marvelous little observation.

Fun, fun, fun! Check out Overheard in New York (real conversations people overhear in New York City: an example here, and here) and Overheard in the Office (which has contributions from around the world; here’s an example).

More wit and wisdom from captainaqua:

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    • polsjs on March 28, 2006 at 1:03 pm

    Has the Philippine social malaise passed the stage where ostracism could be an effective protest weapon?

    Ostracism as a means of political protest is preimsed on the object person’s sensitivity and sensibility – humanity –that is being challenged, to be or not to be – human. There is where the danger lies. In our case, as in most, I guess, ostracism could be a two-edged sword.

  1. I think they allready have headed down that path of ostracism, by no longer talking to each other for the greater good.

    No matter what the Administration tries to do, the opposition opposes it, what was the latest on ANC is the 6 Month or longer ban on certain employees constitutional..

    All i can say on that one is good on ANC to bring up the good of single people over the greater good of the entire population lets send all the doctors overseas..

    Thats right it will not worry the likes of the lopez’s or Estrada’s because they can go overseas to get medical attention..

    What we need is informed discussions about all the issues which the country is facing and not just yelling about them..

    Look at the CHA-CHA yesterday people were once again calling for a Snap Election, well the only way that could occur is if the country changes the constitution. And then if she proposed changing that law they would say it was a way for her to keep the presidency. Since she could call one today win it then call another in 2009 and get an extension to her term?..

    When people such as MLQ has good ideas the opposition have not taken them up and done anything usefull with it because they are still all fighing for TV coverage not progress on any single item..

    We all have to focus on moving towards a better future, and the ostracism of certain people or groups will not help, as all that will do is the government will in the end only help those who are willing to discuss solutions not bicker about problems.

    • sleeping corny on March 28, 2006 at 1:55 pm

    Thaksin is much much better than gma because he still called for a snap election. Can gma do that?

    Do you think this signature campaign is ‘people’s initiative’? Losing people’s right to vote is ‘people’s initiative’? Oh, tell that to the marines!

    What a strange narrowness of mind now is that, to think the things we have not known are better than the things we have known. ~Samuel Johnson

    • pinoy_gising on March 28, 2006 at 5:27 pm

    Wanna share an interesting link:
    http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheSwiftAdvanceOfaPlannedCoup.htm

    Some of the relevant quotes that apply to our local situation:

    The four immoral principles of the Dominionist movement as the following:

    1) Falsehoods are not only acceptable, they are a necessity. The corollary is: The masses will accept any lie if it is spoken with vigor, energy and dedication.

    2) It is necessary to be cast under the cloak of “goodness” whereas all opponents and their ideas must be cast as “evil.”

    3) Complete destruction of every opponent must be accomplished through unrelenting personal attacks.

    4) The creation of the appearance of overwhelming power and brutality is necessary in order to destroy the will of opponents to launch opposition of any kind.

    Also:

    “Our movement will be entirely destructive, and entirely constructive. We will not try to reform the existing institutions. We only intend to weaken them, and eventually destroy them. We will endeavor to knock our opponents off-balance and unsettle them at every opportunity. All of our constructive energies will be dedicated to the creation of our own institutions….

    “We will maintain a constant barrage of criticism against the Left. We will attack the very legitimacy of the Left. We will not give them a moment’s rest. We will endeavor to prove that the Left does not deserve to hold sway over the heart and mind of a single American. We will offer constant reminders that there is an alternative, there is a better way. When people have had enough of the sickness and decay of today’s American culture, they will be embraced by and welcomed into the New Traditionalist movement. The rejection of the existing society by the people will thus be accomplished by pushing them and pulling them simultaneously.

    “We must create a countervailing force that is just as adept as the Left at intimidating people and institutions that are used as tools of left-wing activism but are not ideologically committed, such as Hollywood celebrities, multinational corporations, and university administrators. We must be feared, so that they will think twice before opening their mouths…”

    It’s uncanny how the GMA camp seem to have adopted this Machiavellian “political manual” almost to the letter…

    • Jeg on March 28, 2006 at 5:33 pm

    I just read Filomeno Sta. Ana’s article cited above (via Uniffors.)

    Remember the last days of the Philippine Revolution against Spain? The Filipinos had the Spanish on the run on all fronts. The Katipuneros had the city of Manila under siege. The along came the Spanish-American war and the battle of Manila Bay. The Spaniards then made a deal with the Yanks: the Spaniards will surrender to them instead and hand over the Philippines to them. So having won the fight against Spain, the revolutionaries were robbed of the victory by a last minute deal.

    Does anybody see the same scenario? Once GMA finds her presidency untenable, she might opt for a deal with the politicians (Noli as successor, backed by the trapos of Lakas): resignation in exchange for immunity from suit. This will be spun as a peaceful transition, a peaceful transfer of power to the constitutional successor. GMA will read her resignation over the media saying she’s making the supreme sacrifice for the good of the country and calling for peace and unity. This will be spun in the press as an act of a great leader. The general population will be so relieved to let her go, that most will consider the government’s lack of zeal in pursuing cases against her a small price to pay for stability. Those who’ll cry foul will be smeared as destabilizers, enemies of peace, and sour-grapers who just want power for themselves.

    • cvj on March 28, 2006 at 5:51 pm

    Jeg, what’s wrong with GMA resigning and the VP taking over? I wouldn’t compare de Castro with the USA who had no business hijacking our revolution.

  2. 1) Falsehoods are not only acceptable, they are a necessity. The corollary is: The masses will accept any lie if it is spoken with vigor, energy and dedication.

    Opposition crying out about everything with no actual proof thus unable to go to court.

    2) It is necessary to be cast under the cloak of “goodness” whereas all opponents and their ideas must be cast as “evil.”

    Anti-Corruption drive of the opposition

    3) Complete destruction of every opponent must be accomplished through unrelenting personal attacks.

    Personal attacks is what the opposition and the Media is up to constantly.

    4) The creation of the appearance of overwhelming power and brutality is necessary in order to destroy the will of opponents to launch opposition of any kind.

    So you have outlined the Oppositions plan..

    That is why we can see through it all, you note also the systematic destruction of departments of government, HYATT 10 and the constant unwarranted attacks against each person inchage of each department.

    Also remember back when the new UP head was voted in PCIJ then Personally attacked him, without basis..

    This is exactly the oppositions plan..

    • Jeg on March 28, 2006 at 5:58 pm

    cvj: Jeg, what’s wrong with GMA resigning and the VP taking over?

    Nothing. He’s supposed to take over. The point of the post was the deal with the successor: “I’ll resign if you make sure I won’t get charged with anything.” 😉

  3. How can you pinpoint which is false and which is true?

    What if it is the administration who is spewing all the falsehoods? (e.g. Nazi Germany)

    • cvj on March 28, 2006 at 6:10 pm

    Sleeping With Who, maniniwala na sana ako. Good thing mlq3 posted captainaqua’s comics above to bring me back to reality.

    • pinoy_gising on March 28, 2006 at 6:27 pm

    “Opposition crying out about everything with no actual proof thus unable to go to court.”

    No proofs? Do you even follow the news? I can post the links to the relevant news items if you want. Mahirap makakita ang nagbubulag-bulagan.

    By the way, several court cases have already been filed. I just hope the courts (esp. the Supreme Court) resolve these cases as soon as possible, especially since they themselves have labeled some of these as extremely urgent.

    • Doubting_Thomas on March 28, 2006 at 9:00 pm

    Re #11: “No proofs? Do you even follow the news? I can post the links to the relevant news items if you want.”

    News items are not proof or evidence. The Rules of Court outlines three kinds of evidence: object evidence, documentary evidence and testimonial evidence.

    Memorable quote from my favorite CSI:

    “Concentrate on what doesn’t lie: the evidence.”
    -Gil Grissom

    • Rego on March 28, 2006 at 10:09 pm

    Jon Mariano @ #9, With your question, I was wondering, did it ever occur to you guys that the opposition is also sowing falsehood. That the opposition also cheated in teh election like the Enrile accusation of Madrigal’s cheating and was corroborated by the older Escudero? Thatteh oppsition is also doing manipulations the same way as GMA dirty tricks department?

  4. Re #12: Of course. That’s what EO464 is for. So that the evidence never sees the light of day.

    • Doubting_Thomas on March 28, 2006 at 10:45 pm

    Re #14: Are you saying that a congressional investigation is the only way to gather evidence? If that is the only kind of investigation the opposition knows how to do, they are so inutile.

    • sleeping corny on March 28, 2006 at 11:03 pm

    Rego,

    Of course, the opposition has shortcomings too. But if we talk about the ‘scale’ of sowing falsehood, nothing can beat Glue-ria and her men! Not only falsehood but deception. Talagang hindi na kapanipaniwala ang ginawa nila ngayon. Parang pakapalan na ng mukha! To best describe gma’s system of government –> “Janus-faced”. Why Janus-faced? Because her government has no ‘standard’.
    1. Bunye has “two disks”
    2. Garci has “two passports”
    3. Defensor has “two sound experts”
    4. R. Gonzales has “two standards of Justice” (one is to prosecute the anti-Arroyos w/o due process)
    etc….

    You mentioned about the fight between Enrile & Madrigal. Well, we should judge this case only after evidences are presented. Eh, Enrile has not presented any credible evidence yet (after Madrigal earned his ire maybe his being ‘pikon’ just dominated him that time…if this is true maybe too unprofessional for a senator to just accuse someone w/o any basis). But my point is, where’s the evidence? who massively sow falsehood and deception?

    • cvj on March 28, 2006 at 11:11 pm

    Dominique, i’m beginning to appreciate why in biblical times, Jesus heaped scorn upon the Pharisees.

    • Dwarf_In_the_Palace on March 28, 2006 at 11:48 pm

    DOUBTING_THOMAS, Sleeping

    Concentrate on the Evidence ? Administration’s ACTIONS
    is the REAL “Evidence”. GARCI is the LIVING EVIDENCE,
    Bunye’s I HAVE TWO DISK is an EVIDENCE of GUILT. HOw can
    we present an EVIDENCE when the one in POWER uses ALL
    RESOURCES for COVER-UP. NAGKAKANDAPINGOT PINGOT NA ANG
    LABI SA PAGSISINUNGALING SI DEFENSOR, ANG BABAHO NG
    BUNGANGA NYO SA PAGSISINUNGALING !!! MABALUTAN SANA
    NG SINGAW ANG MGA SINUNGALING NA TAO

    1. GLUE-RIA
    2. DEFENSOR
    3. BUNYETA
    4. ERMITANYO
    5. GONZALES
    6. PUNO

    V – for VENDETTA !!! THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL !!!

    • d0d0ng on March 29, 2006 at 1:23 am

    captainaqua is hilarious!!!!!!

    right on the proverbial glue…haha

    • d0d0ng on March 29, 2006 at 1:34 am

    it is interesting on what gonna happen to senator miriam santiago… she had been the thorn on the side of administration

    • Doubting_Thomas on March 29, 2006 at 1:48 am

    Re #18: If that is the kind of attitude the opposition has, why bother being the opposition?

    • rego on March 29, 2006 at 5:54 am

    Exactly corny, the evidence of cheating. how does that apply to GMA? where is the evidence Mrs Arroyo cheated? In the case of Madrigal, enriles allegatiosn was corroborated by Escudero ,who is on the same line up as Madrigal…

    I really believe that most of our people believe that almost all our elected offcials cheated or broke teh lection law in one way or another. And I have a feeling that that is the reason why the allegation of cheating for Mrs Arroyo is not resulting to her ouster. No matter how teh opposition tried for 4 months now!

    • ellen on March 29, 2006 at 7:28 am

    I like captainaqua’s cartoons.

    • Para sa Kanto Mama on March 29, 2006 at 8:51 am

    Yan ang maganda dito sa mlq3 blog. Merong opposition, may pro-administration, may fencesitters, may devil’s advocate, may bayaran.

    • Phil Cruz on March 29, 2006 at 11:03 am

    Ellen Tordesillas in her Malaya Column “Ostracism as Protest” mentions Randy David’s proposal to use “Ostracism” as a form of protest. For some who don’t want to go to the streets, this could certainly be a preferred protest form. But not everyone opposed to Gloria has the opportunity to display such ostracizing behavior right in her face. Ahh, but they certainly can do it to their own local officials who continue to support Gloria.

    • Phil Cruz on March 29, 2006 at 11:21 am

    In that interview with Ricky Carandang, I found Bong Austero’s principles and values a bit mushy. He is an angry and confused individual. Maybe he really is representative of a large segment of the middle class. Angry but confused.

    But there was one thing Austero said that struck me as worth taking a second look at. He said we should not be focusing the blame solely on Gloria. I think he is half right there. Gloria is “manhid” na. We should refocus our protest efforts at the elected individuals supporting the wrongdoings of Gloria…such as, our own local Congressmen, Governors, Mayors and Councilors who show dogged support for her. Let them feel how we will deal with them in the next local elections.

    • Dwarf_In_the_Palace on March 29, 2006 at 11:30 am

    I agree Phil Cruz, REMEMBER THE “TRAITORS”
    Remember the names of ALL POLITICIANS supporting
    the EVIL-GLUE-RIA MAKAPIDAL ARROVO.

    • PROUD_DESTABILIZER on March 29, 2006 at 11:37 am

    Who is MORE CAPABLE of MANIPULATING the “TRUTH”
    Who is MORE CAPABLE of USING PUBLIC RESOURCES to HIDE the
    TRUTH ?
    Who is MORE CAPABLE of VOTING AGAINST the TRUTH –
    Isn’t it the MAJORITY in the HOUSE OF DOGS ?
    Who is MORE CAPABLE of BUYING and GIVING INCENTIVES
    to MILITARY ?
    Who is MORE CAPABLE of FEEDING FALSE INFORMATION ?
    Di pa ba sapat ang CHANNEL 4, 9 at 13 at pati
    private Media gusto niyong BUSALAN ?

    Why do we BLAME the OPPOSITION ? when it’s ONLY their
    ROLE in OPPOSING the EVIL-DEEDS of these FAKE
    CORRUPT government !!!

  5. Once again i must stress that the futile attempts of the opposition are in fact due to a lack of policy, and grasping at each idea wildly.

    Without a policy on political reforms, economic reforms, the court systems.

    People who oppose the government keep trying to re-invent or grasp at any idea available. We can see that the people power did not work the Black Friday protests did not work, the coup plots did not work. so now they grab at this idea, if we go back some months here in this blog we can see people proposing solutions to problems which actually require action, such as the children in prisons, prison reforms.

    Working with the public at a grass roots level and finding solutions to each problem identified at this stage is what is required. If they do get into power they will need some policies and ideas thought through, If it takes until 2010 to get to a election. Then they will have a solid plan and policy to present to the public.

    It is like the CHA-CHA if you don’t like it what is a better change, what should be changed. Other than Ramos I have not heard of any other group with a proposal that has been shown to the public.

    Politics is about policies and plans for the country, even in the last election we did not have any group come out with a plan like they have in the UK, US.

    We as a people cannot make an informed choice without a clear debate about the policies, and without a policy we cannot have debates.

    Last election only ROCO had a real plan but it only really covered education and he was unwell, therefore could not get more people involved.

    FPJ just lined up professors and others and said they were on his team. As we all know being a professor does not actually give you lifes experience. So would any of that have worked?

    If the opposition and other groups such as the Black and White, really want support what they should be doing feverishly is putting together a comprehensive plan which they can present to the people and even get the government to try to attack it. By doing this they will show who has the pulse of the country and the ideas to move it forward.

    Using the information from the budgets, Statistics office, and COA they can get the same information that the government has and provide a plan.

    A plan which outlines month by month Rules, Regulations, Targets, Costings and having slippage areas where they can define national disasters, and other items.

    If this is provided we all will vote for the opposition, but without it we can only look at past records and the only two we can look at are Estrada and Cory who did not have a great track record.

    If we all continue to argue and attack each other for the next Year or Years we are not going to be any better off.

    Look at what they say United Opposition, Nice name but other that being opposed to GMA they have no other thing they are united about or can offer the people.

    This is the underlying reason of apathy and disgust by most, that you ask for support for what….

    TELL US WHAT YOU WANT SUPPORT FOR, AND WHY YOU WILL BE BETTER FOR ALL OF US.. Not just yourselves..

    • mlq3 on March 29, 2006 at 12:18 pm
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    sleeping, just a few points:

    1. some things didn’t work because of the various opposition group’s shortcomings (no.1 of which is there is no THE opposition, only various groups, while the president’s group is united) but also because the admin is unafraid to use maximum force and preemptive action.

    2. ping lacson had a very detailed plan of government and he actually understood it.

    3. bnw has had a plan for some time:

    Reform Agenda:
    http://blacknwhitemovement.blogspot.com/2005/11/black-white-movements-8-point-reform.html

    First 100 Days:
    http://blacknwhitemovement.blogspot.com/2005/11/our-ideas-for-first-100-days-after.html

    Primer on the movement:
    http://blacknwhitemovement.blogspot.com/2005/11/its-black-and-white.html

  6. No that is not a plan it is just notes placed in a line..

    How would you do certain actions, how will you decide who is best for what..

    And this is assuming you take Illegal power before 2007..

    I would have expected from the HYATT 10 like a 100 Page document describing each ones plan for each department, with costings and revenue goals. 10 pages each and they came up with 3 pages total?

    Notes don’t cut it..

  7. Sleeping, Mr. Lacson is still part of the opposition. Have you studied his program of government?

    How about Mr. Honasan’s program which is being used by the Magdalo?

    Also, when Mr. Ramos, Mr. Estrada, or Ms. Arroyo run for office, we didn’t look for what you’re looking for now. Are we going to look for the program of government form each presidential candidate from now on?

    In addition, the government is already set up. What needs to be done or changes that needs to be done is in “how” things are going to be done; the implementation process.

  8. Lacson is part of but is not and did not have the support by the others which should have supported him instead of chossing a FPJ with no experience.

    They have not chosen that as their platform, This is where they more than one person.. Get together and thrash out a platform in which they will support who will lead and what will be the measure that will need to be pushed forward. If the entire House and Senate do not agree with your plans they will fail.

    This is what all have to at one stage realize, to be united you have to be able to stick with the entire plan for the six years after the election and plan it well before..

    A single person with a platform will not prosper, and a B&W platform is as stated on the b&W website has no substance..

    You have to create it with substance and backing..

  9. You’re forgetting that we have a multi-party system. Why force them to be united?

    Earlier you were just looking for a platform or program of government, now that it was pointed out that some members of the opposition has got it, you ask them to be united?

    Once more, we are not debating on what is or who’s got the better platform. You’re digressing.

  10. They say they are united….(United Opposition)

    I say they are not united what so ever more a broken collection of corrupt politicians.

    • sleeping corny on March 29, 2006 at 5:28 pm

    #22 “…I have a feeling that that is the reason why the allegation of cheating for Mrs Arroyo is not resulting to her ouster. No matter how teh opposition tried for 4 months now!”
    —> because gma & her men like to play in numbers (notorious gma gang). They outright kill the accusations w/o being heard. Do u think these pro-Arroyo congressmen didn’t receive kickbacks from the Marcos wealth before the 2004 election? Kaya they backed gma dahil takot din silang maimbistigahan. Kaya they are united, notorious gma gang nga!

    • Doubting_Thomas on March 29, 2006 at 6:32 pm

    Re #28-35: I tend to agree with sleeping with who. Unless the opposition gets their act together by having a clear direction and plans for the country and working very hard for it, nothing is going to happen.

    If they want Arroyo out of office, they must work on getting the evidence the hard way. If groups opposed to Arroyo considered spending P2.5M on their own people’s initiative, why not use that money to go to Mindanao to investigate, interview local election officers and gather evidence?

    If they want to wrestle the presidency, define what they believe the role of government vis-a-vis the economy should be and try to capture the imagination of the people and not try to foist Susan Roces on the people. The people are not as ignorant as they think.

    • rego on March 29, 2006 at 9:52 pm

    corny @ #36, like it or not , the main reason why the opposition is not suceeding is that they don’t have that much support from the people. Im sure you know the reason why. if not you may go over sleeping’s comments and you can get some ideas.

    That support is very important and THE ONLY WAY way to advance their cause. That support is the only way to counter Mrs Arroyo defiance. No matter what EO or procalmation she issues that can be totally demolish if teh opposition has the number. Problem is they don’t have that number. And that makes them the sort of a minority. and in democracy, majority rules, right.

    On the bribery of congress, may be true may be not. That can only be settled for good if we go back ” where is teh eveidence” argument. If you know or any body that these congressmen received bribes, then you will do the nation a very big favor if you expose them and and fiel a cas eon the court.

    That is another problem for the oppsition. They keep on throwing issues to Mrs Arroyo and her cohorts but they are not filing a case!!! so what do we have now, nothing but a nation of innuendoes.

    • cvj on March 29, 2006 at 10:46 pm

    Rego, i’m afraid you have an incomplete understanding of democracy. Majority rule must be complemented by minority rights and guaranteed by justice which finds its basis in the truth. That holds whether the leader is GMA or Erap otherwise all we have is a tyranny some sort. Let’s suppose that GMA won by a landslide. It doesn’t change anything since it has been shown that she has conspired with a Comelec official to cheat. Even if 99.99% of Filipinos support GMA, justice would still require her to step down. (Of course, as shown by the Pulse Asia survey, a majority of the Filipino people know better.)

    If we find it so hard to counter Arroyo’s defiance, it’s in no small part due to people like you who in the face of the administration’s abuse of power, choose to remain neutral. Instead of taunting the opposition to work harder, why not challenge the administration for its obstruction of justice? Instead of second guessing why other people remain silent, why not do what you believe is right?

    • pingkian on March 29, 2006 at 11:15 pm

    What is detestable in the ongoing debate is not so much on the contents of chacha, but the motives of the proponents. Its transitory provision speaks for its motives. We should remain focus on the main issue of GLORIA’s legitimacy, otherwise we’ll fall into their trap and that is to legitimize the illegitimate.

    With due indulgence from mlq3, we can now post comments on hillblogger’s blogsite (http://hillblogger.blogspot.com/.

    • sleeping corny on March 30, 2006 at 12:43 am

    rego, may I ask u a simple and brief question, what do you think about Bunye?

    • rego on March 30, 2006 at 1:21 am

    CVJ, the way I see it, both sides are guilty of “abuse” one way or another. So as much as I have issues with the administration, i have so many issues with the opposition as well. I really believe that they can not do better than GMA. Both sides are just birds of the same feathers. I dont even believe that one side is lesser “evil” than the other. They are both “evil”. So as of now I can really allow my self to be identified with either side. I will stand frimly on the middle ground. And with the way it has been going on for the past year, I dont se myself on either side in teh near future. Come to think of it, isn’t life not always black and white? ( could be the reason why B&W Movement is not suceeding too)

    corny, i only assess public officials on the way they do their job. And in a scale of 1 to 10 , 10 being the highest. I would give him a 7. My main issue with Bunye is teh computerized election.

    • sleeping corny on March 30, 2006 at 7:55 am

    thanks rego, now i know that Bunye’s lies are trivial to u. Now i know that Bunye’s “two discs” (and public deception)are not an issue for u. Apathetic or just pretend to be blind?

    • cvj on March 30, 2006 at 8:53 am

    rego, your ‘middle ground’ favors the status quo which leaves GMA with the upper hand. while you express no preference for either side, the end result is still the same as if you are endorsing her regime, which means for all practical purposes, passively endorsing her brand of evil.

    In previous posts, you stated that you “…find it very healthy for a nation if its people are vigilant…” so that means you do see some value in the opposition, but despite this, you still do not choose to join in. Don’t you see this as some form of free riding? You let the opposition do all the nitty gritty work while observing from the sidelines, while acknowledging that you also reap the benefits of their vigilance? Since it seems that kind of attitude is a popular among the middle class, then don’t you see such free riding among supposedly responsible members of society as a large part of the problem today?

    • ann on March 31, 2006 at 11:14 am

    just wanted to comment on your link to “iloilo” article. bacolod is in negros, another province in the western visayas. iloilo is a province next to it. great forum, though. i’m a frequent reader.

    • mlq3 on March 31, 2006 at 12:20 pm
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    ann, my apologies, careless mistake! thanks for pointing it out.

  11. thanks MLQ3 for citing my recent musings on blogging and journalism. Yes it a form of conversation, or as a Newsweek article said, a “voice of the people.”

  12. Luogo così cute e extraodinary, lo amo! 😉

  13. Luogo interessante, buon disegno, lo gradisco, signore! =)

    • Filipino Historian on October 13, 2006 at 3:01 am

    TO MY BELOVED FILIPINO COUNTRYMEN :

    Everytime the Filipino people watch TV & RADIO NEWS, no doubt the country is in serious political crisis, civil agitations, street protests-rallies-demonstrations, revolutions, rebellions, coup de etat, graft & corruptions, crimes, terrorism, election frauds and other turmoils that our country is already in a brink of open civil war – the results are impoverished nations and millions of people are languishing in poverty. There are so many anti-PGMA comments from various politicians, especially from oppositions whose desire is to impeach PGMA due to recent election frauds “Hello-Garci Tape”. Yet, the opposition and other politicians are powerless to impeach the president. A very confusing environments everywhere in the Philippines. Yet, our so called high-intellect politicans, businessmen, elite & reach families and down to the Filipino middle class to poor citizens still can’t find the REAL ENEMIES OF THE REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES.

    Millions of Filipino people are practically unaware that PGMA is a Jesuit educated and trained president and PGMA is indeed a Jesuit Temporal Co-Adjutoress while National Security Adviser Norberto Gonzales is indeed a Jesuit Temporal Co-Adjutor. Millions of Filipino people are also practically unaware concerning the absolute influence and power of the Jesuits. Don’t focus too much towards the CBCP, focus everybody’s attention towards the Jesuits in Ateneo de Manila and other Jesuit’s owned institution.

    Now my beloved Filipino countrymen, hold tight as you will now know who really are the Jesuits and how powerful they are, not only in the Philippines but throughout the world. Again, we will be guided by WORLD HISTORY – that blows the cover and true color of the Jesuits.

    QUOTATIONS CONCERNING THE JESUIT ORDER

    “My history of the Jesuits is not eloquently written, but it is supported by unquestionable authorities, [and] is very particular and very horrible. Their [the Jesuit Order’s] restoration [in 1814 by Pope Pius VII] is indeed a step toward darkness, cruelty, despotism, [and] death. … I do not like the appearance of the Jesuits. If ever there was a body of men who merited eternal damnation on earth and in hell, it is this Society of [Ignatius de] Loyola.”
    John Adams (1735-1826; 2nd President of the United States)

    “It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country – the United States of America – are destroyed, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman Catholic Jesuit priests, for they are the most crafty, dangerous enemies to civil and religious liberty. They have instigated MOST of the wars of Europe.”
    Marquis de LaFayette (1757-1834; French statesman and general. He served in the American Continental Army under the command of General George Washington during the American Revolutionary War.)

    “The war [i.e., the American Civil War of 1861-1865] would never have been possible without the sinister influence of the Jesuits.”
    Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865; 16th President of the United States)

    “The public is practically unaware of the overwhelming responsibility carried by the Vatican and its Jesuits in the starting of the two world wars – a situation which may be explained in part by the gigantic finances at the disposition of the Vatican and its Jesuits, giving them power in so many spheres, especially since the last conflict.”
    Edmond Paris (Author of the book The Secret History of the Jesuits)

    “The Jesuits…are a secret society – a sort of Masonic order – with superadded features of revolting odiousness, and a thousand times more dangerous.” – Samuel Morse (1791-1872; American inventor of the telegraph; author of the book Foreign Conspiracy Against the Liberties of the United States)

    “[The Jesuits] are the deadly enemies of civil and religious liberty.”
    R. W. Thompson (Ex-Secretary, American Navy)

    “The Jesuits are a MILITARY organization, not a religious order. Their chief is a general of an army, not the mere father abbot of a monastery. And the aim of this organization is power – power in its most despotic exercise – absolute power, universal power, power to control the world by the volition of a single man [i.e., the Black Pope, the Superior General of the Jesuits]. Jesuitism is the most absolute of despotisms [sic] – and at the same time the greatest and most enormous of abuses…”
    Napoleon I (i.e., Napoleon Bonaparte; 1769-1821; emperor of the French)

    “…The Roman Inquisition…had been administered since 1542 by the Jesuits.” – F. Tupper Saussy (Author of the book Rulers of Evil)

    “Between 1555 and 1931 the Society of Jesus [i.e., the Jesuit Order] was expelled from at least 83 countries, city states and cities, for engaging in political intrigue and subversion plots against the welfare of the State, according to the records of a Jesuit priest of repute [Thomas J. Campbell]. …Practically every instance of expulsion was for political intrigue, political infiltration, political subversion, and inciting to political insurrection.” (1987)
    J.E.C. Shepherd (Canadian historian)

    “It is impossible to read Elizabethan history [i.e., the history surrounding Queen Elizabeth I of England; queen: 1558-1603] except in the context of an army of Jesuits, masters of deceit, treachery, treason, infiltration, subversion, assassination, insurrection, civil war and coercion, plotting for the good of the papacy, and the defeat of all the Pope’s foes anywhere in the world.” (1987)
    J.E.C. Shepherd (Canadian historian)

    “The whole frightful responsibility for this terrible Thirty Years’ War [1618-1648] must rest upon the [Holy Roman] Emperor Ferdinand II, and his teachers, rulers, and bosom friends – the Sons of Loyola [i.e., the Jesuit Order].”
    Theodor Griesinger (German historian; 1873)

    “If you trace up Masonry, through all its Orders, till you come to the grand tip-top head Mason of the World, you will discover that the dread individual and the Chief of the Society of Jesus [i.e., the Superior General of the Jesuit Order] are one and the same person.” – James Parton (American historian)

    “All these things cause the Father-General [of the Jesuits] to be feared by the Pope and sovereigns… A sovereign who is not their [the Jesuits’] friend will sooner or later experience their vengeance.” (1852)
    Luigi Desanctis (Official Censor of the Inquisition)

    “The Society of Jesus [i.e., the Jesuit Order] is the enemy of man. The whole human race should unite for its overthrow. …For there is no alternative between its total extirpation, and the absolute corruption and degradation of mankind.” – Robert J. Breckinridge

    “The Jesuits…are simply the Romish army for the earthly sovereignty of the world in the future, with the Pontiff of Rome for emperor…that’s their ideal. …It is simple lust of power, of filthy earthly gain, of domination – something like a universal serfdom with them [i.e., the Jesuits] as masters – that’s all they stand for. They don’t even believe in God perhaps.”
    Fyodor Dostoyevsky (1821-1881; famous Russian novelist)

    “The Jesuit Order at last reached the pinnacle of its power and prestige in the early eighteenth century [i.e., the early 1700s]. It had become more influential and more wealthy than any other organization in the world. It held a position in world affairs that no oath-bound group of men has ever held before or since… ‘Nearly all the Kings and Sovereigns of Europe had only Jesuits as directors of their consciences [i.e., as confessor-priests], so that the whole of Europe appeared to be governed by Jesuits only.’” (1927; using a short quote by Jesuit Cordara)
    Boyd Barrett (Ex-Jesuit)

    “In Roman Catholic circles it is well known that the Black Pope is the term used for the [Superior] General of the Jesuits. As the Pope is always robed in white, and the [Jesuit Superior] General in black, the contrast is obvious. But those Romanists who do not greatly love the Jesuits, and their number is not limited, use the term as indicating that the Black Pope rules the White Pope…even while the former [i.e., the Black Pope] is obligated to make, at least, a show of submission to the latter.” (1896)
    M.F. Cusack (Ex-nun of Kenmore; author of the book The Black Pope)

    “…The Jesuits are the only religious order in the Church of Rome…which has lain under the ban of the [‘White’] Pope, or which has been expelled from any country because of its interference in politics. Hence we may expect to find that to obtain political power forms a main feature in the plans of the Society [of Jesus – i.e., the Jesuit Order].” (1896)
    M.F. Cusack

    “Alas, I knew they [i.e., the Jesuits] would poison me; but I did not expect to die in so slow and cruel a manner.” (1774)
    Pope Clement XIV (Who had “forever” abolished the Jesuit Order in 1773)

    “The [Jesuit Superior] General is at the head of this black and mute militia, which thinks, wills, acts, obeys – [as] the passive instrument of his designs. Their whole life must have but one aim – the advancement of the [Jesuit] Order to which they are attached.” (1912)
    Jeremiah J. Crowley (Irishman; ex-priest in the Roman Catholic Church; author of the book Romanism: Menace to the Nation)

    “Never before in the course of the world’s history had such a Society [i.e., the Jesuit Order] appeared. The old Roman Senate itself did not lay schemes for world domination with greater certainty of success.” (1800)
    Friedrich von Hardenberg (German philosopher)

    “[Jesuit Adam] Weishaupt established the [modern version of the] Illuminati specifically to be a front organization behind which the Jesuits could hide. After being [formally] abolished by [Pope] Clement XIV in 1773, the Jesuits used the Illuminati and other organizations to carry out their operations. Thus, the front organizations would be blamed for the trouble caused by the Jesuits.”
    Bill Hughes (Author of The Secret Terrorists and The Enemy Unmasked)

    “[Jesuit-trained Illuminist Adam] Weishaupt and his fellow Jesuits cut off the income to the Vatican by launching and leading the French Revolution; by directing Napoleon’s conquest of Catholic Europe; [and] …by eventually having Napoleon throw Pope Pius VII in jail at Avignon until he agreed, as the price for his release, to reestablish the Jesuit Order. This Jesuit war on the Vatican was terminated by the Congress of Vienna and by the secret, 1822 Treaty of Verona.”
    Emanuel M. Josephson (American physician and historian)

    “Why would the Jesuits use their implacable enemy, the Jews, to further their designs for world dominion? The Jesuits never do anything out in the open where they can be exposed. If they are recognized as the culprits, they will be blamed and suffer the consequences, but if they can use someone else as the ‘cause of the world’s problems’, especially an enemy they can destroy in the process, then they have simultaneously accomplished two of their objectives. The Jewish people are the perfect scapegoat. Since the Rothschilds are Jesuit agents operating under a Jewish cover, using them [i.e., the Rothschilds] in forming the Illuminati back in 1776 effectively throws the onus of this conspiracy on the Jews. The Rothschilds are certainly not the only Jesuit agents that operate under a Jewish front.
    The following sources [Ed. Note: Bill Hughes lists a number of books in later paragraphs] indicate that [Jesuit] Adam Weishaupt and the Rothschilds were the brains and the wealth behind the French Revolution.”
    Bill Hughes (From his book The Enemy Unmasked)
    “History books will tell us that the French Revolution first began in 1787 or 1789, depending on which book you read. However, it was actually planned by [Jesuit] Dr. Adam Weishaupt and the House of Rothschild almost 20 years before the Revolution took place.”
    William Sutton (Author of The New Age Movement and The Illuminati 666)

    “They [i.e., the Jesuits] have so constantly mixed themselves up in court and state intrigues that they must, in justice, be reproached with striving after world dominion. They cost kings their lives, not on the scaffold, but by assassination, and equally hurtful as the society of Illuminati; they were the foremost among the crowd, at all events, who applauded the murder scenes in Paris [during the French Revolution].” – Hector Macpherson (Author of the book The Jesuits in History)

    “The Jesuits, [Jesuit Adam] Weishaupt, and the Rothschilds managed to cast the blame for the French Revolution on their front organization, the Illuminati!”
    Bill Hughes (From his book The Enemy Unmasked)

    “For over 200 years, the goal [of the Jesuits] has been the complete destruction of the United States Constitution.
    …In the religious arena, the goal of the Jesuits is to wipe out any trace of Protestantism and other religions, and to restore worldwide domination by the pope.”
    Bill Hughes (From his book The Secret Terrorists)

    “[American Secretary of the Navy R.W.] Thompson pinpointed exactly who would be the agents used by the monarchs of Europe to destroy the republic of America, namely, the Jesuits of Rome! Since 1815 there has been a continual assault on America by the Jesuits to try to destroy the constitutional rights of this great nation.
    The famous inventor of the Morse Code, Samuel B. Morse, also wrote of this sinister plot [of the Jesuits] against the United States.”
    Bill Hughes (From his book The Secret Terrorists)

    “By 1815, the Jesuits [Ed. Note: through their agents, the Rothschilds] had complete control over England. If a leader did not do as he was told, money would be used to kill, smear [Ed. Note: character assassination is a favorite tactic of the Jesuits], destroy, blackmail, or just drive [him] from office. …What was done in England is being done in many countries today.”
    Bill Hughes (From his book The Enemy Unmasked)

    “One of the major purposes of the Jesuits was to destroy every trace of Protestantism and its principles, including religious freedom, republicanism, representative government, and an economy built around a strong middle class. Another purpose of the Jesuits was to greatly expand the power and control of the papacy throughout the entire world.”
    Bill Hughes (From his book The Enemy Unmasked)

    “During this Congress [of Verona, Italy in 1822], it was decided that America would be the target of Jesuit emissaries and that America was to be destroyed at all costs. Every principle of the [U.S.] Constitution was to be dissolved and new Jesuitical principles were to be put into place in order to exalt the Papacy to dominion in America.”
    Bill Hughes (From his book The Secret Terrorists)

    “These three meetings, at Vienna, [Austria in 1814-15,] Verona, [Italy in 1822,] and Chieri, [Italy in 1825] were held with as much secrecy as possible. However, one man attended the first two meetings that would not be silenced. British foreign minister George Canning contacted the U.S. government to warn them that the monarchs of Europe [Ed. Note: with the encouragement and support of the Papacy and its Jesuits] were planning to destroy the free institutions of America.”
    Bill Hughes (From his book The Secret Terrorists)

    “The Monroe Doctrine was America’s response to the Jesuits’ Congresses of Vienna [in 1814-15] and Verona [in 1825]. America would consider it an act of war if any European nation sought colonial expansion in the Western Hemisphere. The Jesuits have been able secretly to attack and infiltrate America to accomplish exactly what the Monroe Doctrine was stated to protect against. They [i.e., the Jesuits] have been able to get away with it because it was done with utmost secrecy and under the façade of being a church.
    …The Monroe Doctrine challenged any advance on America by Europe. However, [President] Monroe did not really understand that the crafty Jesuits would not initially use the force of arms to gain their objectives. They [i.e., the Jesuits] would use cunning, craftiness, and utmost secrecy. They would appeal to men’s basest points. They would plant their agents in positions of wealth and power [Ed. Note: such as in the U.S. Congress and in U.S. intelligence agencies] and then use their influence to gain their great prize – the subversion and destruction of every Protestant principle as outlined in the Constitution of the United States.”
    Bill Hughes (From his book The Secret Terrorists)
    “The Jesuits function like the Papacy’s secret worldwide police. They are very secretive and go to great lengths to keep their operations secret. They tell no one that they are Jesuits. To all outside appearances, they appear as normal people.”
    Bill Hughes (From his book The Secret Terrorists)

    “[U.S. President] James Buchanan was poisoned [in 1857] and almost died. He lived because he knew that he had been given arsenic poisoning and so informed his doctors. He knew that the Jesuits [had] poisoned [Presidents] Harrison and Taylor [with arsenic].
    The Jesuit Order fulfilled their oath again that they would poison, kill, or do whatever was necessary to remove those who opposed their plans. From 1841 to 1857, we saw that three [U.S.] Presidents were attacked by the Jesuits as outlined in the Congresses of Vienna, Verona, and Chieri. Two died and one barely escaped [death]. They [i.e., the Jesuits] allow nothing to stand in their way of total domination of America, and the destruction of the [U.S.] Constitution.”
    Bill Hughes (From his book The Secret Terrorists)

    “It would seem that the Jesuits had had it in mind, from the beginning of the war [the American Civil War of 1861-1865], to find an occasion for the taking off [i.e., the assassination] of Mr. [Abraham] Lincoln.”
    Thomas M. Harris (U.S. Army Brigadier General; Author of the book Rome’s Responsibility for the Assassination of Abraham Lincoln)

    “The favorite policy of the Jesuits [is] that of assassination.”
    Brigadier General Thomas M. Harris

    “The organization of the [Roman Catholic] Hierarchy is a complete military despotism, of which the Pope is the ostensible [i.e., apparent; seeming] head; but of which, the Black Pope [Ed. Note: The Superior General of the Jesuits], is the real head. The Black Pope is the head of the order of the Jesuits, and is called a General [i.e., the Superior General]. He not only has command of his own order, but [also] directs and controls the general policy of the [Roman Catholic] Church. He [the Black Pope] is the power behind the throne, and is the real potential head of the Hierarchy. The whole machine is under the strictest rules of military discipline. The whole thought and will of this machine, to plan, propose and execute, is found in its head. There is no independence of thought, or of action, in its subordinate parts. Implicit and unquestioning obedience to the orders of superiors in authority, is the sworn duty of the priesthood of every grade…”
    Brigadier General Thomas M. Harris

    “The Rothschilds were Jesuits who used their Jewish background as a façade to cover their sinister activities. The Jesuits, working through Rothschild and [financier Nicholas] Biddle, sought to gain control of the banking system of the United States.”
    Bill Hughes (From his book The Secret Terrorists)

    “[Jesuit-trained Illuminist Adam] Weishaupt’s success in forcing the Vatican to reestablish the abolished Jesuit Order [Ed. Note: it had been abolished in 1773 by Pope Clement XIV], through revival of the Church’s original Nazarene Communism in the form of present-day Communism, led to the conspiracy’s control by the Society of Jesus [i.e., the Jesuits]…
    …Wherever a totalitarian movement erupts, whether Communist or Nazi, a Jesuit can be found in the role of ‘advisor’ or leader; in [Communist] Cuba Fr. Armando Llorente and in Argentina the neo-Nazis are led by Fr. Menvieille.”
    Emanuel M. Josephson (1968)

    “Today they [i.e., the Jesuits] are stronger in the United States than they ever were in any of the countries of Europe which expelled them as a menace to the government.” (1912)
    Jeremiah J. Crowley

    “Above all things, Jesuits are ‘confessors’. Their services unto the royalty were urged as a ‘need’, as they became assigned to hear the confessions of the aristocrats, emperors, kings, queens, princes, princesses, [‘royal’] mistresses, those in every level of government – they all revealed their secret plans, their intimate sins, their inner-most thoughts, as their lives became virtually an open book to the Jesuits.
    …Through various means of diplomacy, Jesuits worked their way into offices of State, climbing up to be the counselors of kings, and shaping the policy of nations. But it was ‘religion’ and its sacred duties of hearing the confessions of their penitents, and being their religious ‘wise’ guides, that was the key to their success. Without the ‘need’ of a religious confessor, the history of the Jesuits may have been quite different. And the Jesuits made very sure that it was they who filled that need as confessors [Ed. Note: especially to the rich and power elite] instead of the other orders of priests, by providing a most attractive policy of leniency as an enticement for their penitents.”
    John Daniel (Author of the book The Grand Design Exposed)

    “In the agreement to rescue Rome [i.e., the Roman Catholic Church’s hierarchy] from the predicament of losing its world control to Protestantism, and to preserve the spiritual and temporal supremacy which the popes [had] ‘usurped’ during the Middle Ages, Rome now ‘sold’ the [Roman Catholic] Church to the Society of Jesus [i.e., the Jesuits]; in essence the popes surrendered themselves into their hands.”
    John Daniel

    “Eight years before the attempted [Spanish] Armada invasion [of 1588], Jesuits were seditiously active plotting the overthrow of the English government. By using different disguises, aliases, and secret codes, to illegally slip in and out of England, Jesuit Robert Parson, in 1580, had led and then later organized a mission to bring other Jesuits into England to engage in a work of subversion. When the [attempted] invasion [by the Spanish Armada] failed, these masters of intrigue [i.e., the Jesuits] turned to another bizarre scheme. Known in your encyclopedia under the subject, ‘The Gunpowder Plot’ – thirteen Catholic noblemen and five Jesuits formed a conspiracy devising a plan to explode 36 barrels of gunpowder in the cellar of the House of Lords and kill King James I, and members of the [House of] Commons as they assembled for the opening of Parliament on 5 November 1605. Their plan was to blow up the Parliament building and out of the chaos incite the people into a full insurrection.
    …But before the date it [i.e., the basement full of explosives] was to be detonated, the explosives were discovered, leading to the arrest of all those involved. …Of the five Jesuits involved, two escaped, one died in prison, and two were convicted and executed.”
    John Daniel

    “The Thirty Years’ War, 1618-1648, was a series of conflicts that became the last great struggle of religious wars in Europe. It was fought almost exclusively on German soil…but before the war ended, it involved most of the nations of Europe. The underlying cause of the war was the deep-seated hostility between the German Protestants and German Catholics – with the Jesuits and Cardinal Richelieu, who was the real ruler of France, fanning the fires to accomplish their ends.”
    John Daniel

    “…The [Roman Catholic] Church to rule the world; the [‘White’] Pope to rule the Church; [and] the Jesuits [Ed. Note: headed by the ‘Black Pope’, the Jesuit Superior General] to rule the [‘White’] Pope – such was and is the program of the Order [i.e., Society] of Jesus [i.e., the Jesuit Order].”
    John Daniel

    “…The [Roman Catholic] Church to rule the world; the [‘White’] Pope to rule the Church; [and] the Jesuits [Ed. Note: headed by the ‘Black Pope’, the Jesuit Superior General] to rule the [‘White’] Pope – such was and is the program of the Order [i.e., Society] of Jesus [i.e., the Jesuit Order].”
    John Daniel

    “The sixth and last event to be considered is the barbarous Irish Massacre, with its 23 October 1641 launching date – the date that also celebrates the Catholic feast of Ignatius Loyola, founder of the Jesuits.
    …Again the plot is instigated by the Jesuits, priests, and friars, who excite the ignorant Irish Catholic people to a frenzy to commit the most unheard of cruelties. In far away France, Cardinal Richelieu, the French minister, had promised the [Irish Catholic] conspirators a considerable supply of men and money. In one stroke, Catholics rose up against their peaceful and unsuspecting Protestant neighbors, and spared no age, no sex, nor condition. Led on and declared by their fanatical priestly leaders, that no Protestant should be suffered to live any longer among them, adding that it was no more sin to kill a Protestant than to kill a dog, and that the relieving or protecting them was a crime of the most unpardonable nature.
    The onslaught raged on, and when it had run its course, one hundred and fifty thousand Protestants lay mutilated, butchered, and dead.
    …For the unbiased researcher, history reeks of the butchery of Romanism, where whole cities and populations were unmercifully wiped out, just because they worshipped God in a manner that was different from Roman Catholicism.”
    John Daniel

    “…By a ‘providential’ synchronism, when [Italian dictator] Mussolini seized power in Italy thanks to don Sturzo, Jesuit and chief of the Catholic party, Monseigneur Seipel, a Jesuit, became chancellor of Austria. He held that position until 1929, with an interregnum of two years, and, during those decisive years, he led the Austrian interior politics on to the reactionary and clerical road; his successors followed him on that road which led to the absorption of that country into the German block. The bloody repression of working-class uprisings earned him [i.e., Jesuit Monseigneur Seipel] the nickname ‘Keine Milde Kardinal’ – the ‘Cardinal without mercy’.”
    Edmond Paris (Author of the book The Secret History of the Jesuits)

    “It is believed that the Pope [i.e., Pius XI] will offer these services to Signor [Benito] Mussolini through the Jesuit Father Pietro Tachi-Venturi, who is often consulted by Mussolini on important matters.” (Daily Express, 2/9/1935)
    BRITISH UNITED PRESS

    “Above all I have learned from the Jesuits. And so did Lenin too, as far as I recall. The world has never known anything quite so splendid as the hierarchical structure of the [Roman] Catholic Church. There were quite a few things I simply appropriated from the Jesuits for the use of the [Nazi] Party.”
    Adolph Hitler (1889-1945; Nazi leader and chancellor of Germany from 1933-1945)
    ((Ed. Comment: What follows is a similar quotation of Hitler taken from Edmond Paris’ book The Vatican Against Europe.)):

    “I have learnt most of all from the Jesuit Order. …So far, there has been nothing more imposing on earth than the hierarchical organization of the [Roman] Catholic Church. A good part of that organization I have transported direct to my own [Nazi] party. …The Catholic Church must be held up as an example. …I will tell you a secret. I am founding an order [Ed. Note: the Nazi SS]. …In [Heinrich] Himmler [who would become head of the Nazi SS] I see our Ignatius de Loyola [Ed. Note: the founder of the Jesuit Order].” – Adolph Hitler

    “In the early days of May (1936), [German Knight of Malta Franz] von Papen entered into secret negotiations with Dr. Schussnigg (Austrian Chancellor) working on his weak point [i.e., he was a devout Roman Catholic] and showed him how advantageous a reconciliation with [Nazi leader Adolph] Hitler would be as far as the Vatican’s interests were concerned; the argument may seem odd, but Schussnigg was very devout, and von Papen was the pope’s [German] chamberlain [i.e., a high official in certain royal courts].
    Not surprisingly, it was the [pope’s] secret chamberlain [in Germany – i.e., Knight of Malta Franz von Papen] who led the whole affair, which ended, on the 11th of March 1938, with the resignation of the pious Schussnigg (pupil of the Jesuits), in favor of Seyss-Inquart, chief of the Austrian Nazis. The following day [March 12, 1938], the German troops entered Austria and the puppet government of Seyss-Inquart proclaimed the union of the country to the [Nazi German Third] Reich. The event was welcomed by an enthusiastic declaration of Vienna’s archbishop, Cardinal Innitzer (a Jesuit).”
    Edmond Paris (Author of the book The Secret History of the Jesuits)

    “The SS had been organized by [Heinrich] Himmler according to the principles of the Jesuit Order. The rules of service and spiritual exercises prescribed by Ignatius de Loyola [Ed. Note: the founder of the Jesuit Order] constituted a model which [Heinrich] Himmler strove carefully to copy. Absolute obedience was the supreme rule; every order had to be executed without comment.”
    Walter Shellenberg ((Chief of the Nazi Sicherheitdienst (SD))

    “The German author Walter Hagen gives also this discreet information: ‘The Jesuits’ [Superior] General, Count Halke von Ledochowski, was ready to organize, on the common basis of anti-communism, some collaboration between the German Secret Service and the Jesuit Order.’
    As a result, within the SS Central Security Service, an organization was created, and most of its main posts were held by Catholic priests wearing the black uniform of the [Nazi] SS. The Jesuit [priest] ‘father’ Himmler [uncle of Heinrich Himmler] was one of its superior officers.”
    Edmond Paris (Author of the book The Secret History of the Jesuits)

    “…Kurt Heinrich Himmler [was] chief of the Gestapo [i.e., the secret police force of the German Nazi state], which meant he held in his hand the essential reins of power of the [Nazi] regime. Was it his personal merits which earned him such a high position? Did Hitler see in him a superior genius when he compared him [i.e., Heinrich Himmler] to the creator of the Jesuit Order [i.e., Ignatius of Loyola]? It is certainly not what the testimonies of those who knew him imply, as they saw in him nothing more than mediocrity.
    Was that ‘star’ [of Heinrich Himmler] shining with a borrowed ‘brightness’? Was it really Kurt Heinrich Himmler, the ostensible [i.e., apparent] chief, who actually reigned over the Gestapo and the secret services? Who was sending millions of people, deported for political reasons, and Jews to their death? Was it the flat-faced nephew or [was it] the [Jesuit priest] uncle, the former Canon at the Court of Bavaria, one of [Jesuit Superior General] Ledochowski’s favorites, a Jesuit ‘father’ and superior officer of the [Nazi] SS?”
    Edmond Paris

    “The Jesuits, in control of [Adolph] Hitler’s occultic and homosexual Third Reich…, installed puppet dictators throughout Europe. They were:

    • Bavarian Germany and the Third Reich – [Adolph] Hitler [born-died: 1889-1945]
    • Italy – [Benito] Mussolini [born-died: 1883-1945]
    • ‘Vichy’ France – [Henri Philippe] Petain [born-died: 1856-1951]
    • Spain – [Francisco] Franco
    • Austria – Seyss-Inquart
    • Poland – Frank
    • Slovakia – [Jesuit] Priest Tiso
    • Croatia – [Ante] Pavelitch ((Ed. Note: alternate spelling: Pavelic))
    • Belgium – Degrelle.

    All these Roman Catholic, Jesuit-controlled, Jew-hating dictators were loyal to the greatest war criminal of all, Papal Caesar Pius XII and his master, Jesuit [Superior] General Wlodimir Ledochowski.”
    Eric Jon Phelps

    “The term ‘Jesuit’ has become synonymous with terms like deceit, chicanery, infiltration, intrigue, subversion…many organized Jesuits have been justly described as treacherous, traitorous workers, seducing many in the service of the Roman Pontiff away from national allegiance…” (1987)
    J. E. C. Shepherd (Canadian historian)

    “The presence of the Jesuits in any country, Romanist [i.e., Catholic] or Protestant, is likely to breed social disturbance.”
    Lord Palmerston

    “There was no disguise they (the Jesuits) could not assume, and therefore, there was no place into which they could not penetrate. They could enter unheard the closet of the Monarch, or the Cabinet of the Statesman. They could sit unseen in convocation or General Assembly, and mingle unsuspected in the deliberations and debates.
    There was no tongue they could not speak, and no creed they could not profess, and thus there was no people among whom they might not sojourn, and no church whose membership they might not enter and whose functions they might not discharge. The could execrate [i.e., sharply denounce] the Pope with the Lutheran, and swear the Solemn League with the Covenanter.”
    J.A. Wylie (Rev.; Author of the book The History of Protestantism)

    “The assassins of St. Bartholomew [i.e., the Catholics who slaughtered the French Protestant Huguenots in 1572, starting with the St. Bartholomew massacre on August 24th], the inquisitors and the Jesuits are monsters produced by malignant imaginations; they are the natural allies of the spirit of darkness and of death…” (1883)
    Edwin A. Sherman (Author of the book The Engineer Corps of Hell)

    “The sad facts of the matter are that the Vatican has been THE major player in the geopolitical arena for many centuries. And, for the past four centuries, the Jesuit Order (operating from within the Vatican) has been THE major player in both the geopolitical arena and the theological arena – and a very big player (through its Knights of Malta) in the financial arena and in the international intelligence community! The more I study history and the more ‘I turn over stones’, the more I find the ‘footsteps and fingerprints’ of the Vatican – and, again, more specifically, its Jesuit Order – involved in the most sinister and evil activities!

    Indeed, the Jesuit Order (i.e., The Society of Jesus, ‘The Company’), headed by the Jesuit Superior General (i.e., the ‘Black Pope’), is the most formidable enemy to religious and civil liberty that the world has probably ever seen. The Jesuits became so infamous in Europe for fomenting wars and revolutions, and for assassinating heads of State, that they were expelled from 83 countries, city-states, and cities by 1931 – quite often by Roman Catholic monarchs!

    The Jesuit Superior General, the Black Pope, not only controls his powerful Jesuit Order, but also controls the powerful Knights of Malta, top-level Knights of Columbus, and the top-levels of Freemasonry. Through his control of the top levels of Secret Societies (especially Knights of Malta and high-level Freemasons), he controls the top intelligence agencies of the world. A good example of this occurred in World War II: the top intelligence man in the OSS (later CIA) was Knight of Malta William “Wild Bill” Donovan; the top intelligence man in Nazi Germany on the eastern front was German Knight of Malta General Reinhard Gehlen; and the top intelligence man in the Soviet Union was Knight of Malta Prince Anton Turkul (who used Jesuit priests for his couriers). Thus, the Jesuit Order was in control of the major combatants, and able to ‘steer’ the war in the directions they wanted – and in the process to slaughter millions of their favorite targets (Jews, Protestants, and Orthodox Christians).
    Additionally, because of his control of the Vatican hierarchy (through his Jesuit Order and P-2 Masonry), the Jesuit Superior General also has control and use of the ‘Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith’ (i.e., the Office of Inquisition), the Roman Curia, and Vatican finances (which are substantial)! If all this does not make the ‘Black Pope’ the most powerful man on the face of the earth, I do not know what would.

    Secret societies – most particularly the Jesuit Order with its Knights of Malta and top-level Freemasons – must be exposed and removed from our shores, or America will not survive!” – Darryl Eberhart

    “This [American Civil] war [of 1861-1865] would never have been possible without the sinister influence of the Jesuits. We owe it to popery that we now see our land reddened with the blood of her noblest sons. Though there were great differences of opinion between the South and the North on the question of slavery, neither Jeff Davis [President of the Confederacy] nor anyone of the leading men of the Confederacy would have dared to attack the North, had they not relied on the promises of the Jesuits, that under the mask of Democracy, the money and arms of the Roman Catholic, even the arms of France, were at their disposal if they would attack us. I pity the priests, the bishops and monks of Rome in the United States, when the people realize that they are, in great part, responsible for the tears and the blood shed in this war. I conceal what I know on that subject from the knowledge of the nation, for if the people knew the whole truth, this war would turn into a religious war, and it would at once take a tenfold more savage and bloody character. It would become merciless as all religious wars are. It would become a war of extermination on both sides. The Protestants of both the North and the South would surely unite to exterminate the priests and the Jesuits, if they could hear what Professor [Samuel B.] Morse [Ed. Note: U.S. inventor of the telegraph] has said to me of the plots made in the very city of Rome [i.e., at the Vatican] to destroy this Republic, and if they could learn how the [Roman Catholic] priests, the nuns, and the monks, which daily land on our shores, under the pretext of preaching their religion, instructing the people in their schools, taking care of the sick in the hospitals, are nothing else but the emissaries of the Pope, of Napoleon, and the other despots of Europe, to undermine our institutions, alienate the hearts of our people from our Constitution, and our laws, destroy our schools, and prepare a reign of anarchy here as they have done in Ireland, in Mexico, in Spain, and wherever there are any people who want to be free.”
    Abraham Lincoln

    “Let us examine the operations of this Austrian Society [the St. Leopold Foundation], for it is hard at work all around us, yes, here in this country [i.e., the USA]… With its headquarters in Vienna [Austria], under the immediate direction and inspection of [Austrian Prince] Metternich, …it makes itself already felt through the [American] Republic. Its emissaries are here. And who are these emissaries? They are Jesuits. This [Roman Catholic] society of men, after exerting their tyranny for upwards of two hundred years, at length became so formidable to the world, threatening the entire subversion to all social order, that even the Pope [i.e., Clement XIV], whose devoted subjects they [i.e., the Jesuits] are, and must be, by the vow of their society, was compelled to dissolve them [in 1773].
    They had not been suppressed, however, for fifty years, before the waning influence of Popery and Despotism required their useful labors to resist the light of Democratic liberty, and the Pope (Pius VII) simultaneously with the formation of the Holy Alliance [in Europe], revived the order of the Jesuits in all their power. ((Ed. Comment: Pope Pius VII restored the Jesuit Order in 1814 in exchange for his release from prison, where he had spent five years under Jesuit “persuasion”.))
    And do Americans need to be told what Jesuits are? If any are ignorant, let them inform themselves of their history without delay; no time is to be lost; their workings are before you in every day’s events; they are a secret society, a sort of Masonic order with super added features of revolting odiousness, and a thousand times more dangerous. They are not merely priests, or priests of one religious creed; they are merchants, and lawyers, and editors, and men of any profession, having no outward badge (in this country [i.e., the USA]) by which to be recognized; they are about in all your society. They can assume any character, that of angels of light, or ministers of darkness, to accomplish their one great end, the service upon which they are sent, whatever that service may be.
    They [i.e., the Jesuits] are educated men, prepared, and sworn to start at any moment, and in any direction, and for any service, commanded by the general of their order [i.e., the Jesuit Superior General, the “Black Pope”], bound to no family, community, or country, by the ordinary ties which bind men; and sold for life to the cause of the Roman Pontiff.”
    Samuel Morse (Inventor Of Morse Code)

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